Dan is the road.cc news editor and has spent the past four years writing stories and features, as well as (hopefully) keeping you entertained on the live blog. Having previously written about nearly every other sport under the sun for the Express, and the weird and wonderful world of non-league football for the Non-League Paper, Dan joined road.cc in 2020. Come the weekend you'll find him labouring up a hill, probably with a mouth full of jelly babies, or making a bonk-induced trip to a south of England petrol station... in search of more jelly babies.
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Having seen sooo many really bad cyclists I've come to the conclution that the aggresive bad car drivers are just cyclists during work hours in cars driving as badly as they cycle
I called in a shoe shop the other day - they had some heavily discounted shoes but they were all in black. I don't wear black shoes I wear brown. Do you have any disappointing shoe shop stories?
Trolling isn't what it was...
Sorry, I don't buy the argument about large cars. I drive an Audi Q5, a car I bought purely due to my partner having a disability. It's easy to blame the size of the car and ignore totally the attitude of the driver
I have been squeezed out and close passed by cars of all sizes. I wouldn't suggest at all SUVs or larger cars are more likely to cause issues. In fact I would suggest it it sometimes driver of smaller cars who think they can just pass without giving appropriate space because they think they are whizzing a mini through the narrow streets of Turin.
Larger cars are causing issues on the roads when it comes to infrastructure size - some roads are just not designed to accommodate such big vehicles. Some suburbs are almost impossible to get down due to larger cars lining the streets on both sides. But that's not a cycling issue.
Really sorry for your partner's disability, I hope it is a mild one. This is a very special case that excempts should be provided for any proposed measures. I have a friend that is forced to use a wheelchair at all times, yet manages to drive a modern B-segment SUV now, while previous car was an even smaller sub-4m car and on the other hand I know an even more unfortunate case that had to use a special van with wheelchair lift, so these are very special needs.
But big cars are not good for all for various reasons, here are few for a start:
1) Occupying more space for parking =>less parking spaces=>more cars in the road searching for parking.
2) More width either parked either on the road, less side safety space, creating more chances for close passes.
3) Taller vehicles can obscure visibility for other users.
4) Taller vehicles for the same weight have been proved to be more damaging to other users in crashes. It goes without saying that this happens too for heavier vehicles.
5) Heavier vehicles that are not EVs, have greater harmful emmissions that us cyclists feel them directly to our lungs as we are super close to motor traffic. I am sure the years lost of all cyclists breathing harmful emmissions are more than accidents.
(6) Taller driving position subconsiously makes you speeding more and hesitant to stop. Not any proof, but I have noticed it.
It's also perfectly possible to drive a bus or a truck carefully, but for some reason most people are not keen to cycle around them. And indeed having them passing through places with vulnerable road users around is increasingly seen as something to be avoided, even in the UK.
There are a wide range of drivers in the UK because we have mass motoring and treat this as a club you only have to qualify for once. Unfortunately in the UK it's likely easier to change the vehicles (or the roads and the rules) than the drivers. Indeed the increased safety of driving over the years is mostly down to safety features in vehicles, infra improvements - and better trauma care.
Public space is not infinite - we also have growing demand on it (more people) so have to prioritise. Cars are by far the least space-efficient transport mode - even when they're moving! Bigger cars are exactly the opposite of what we want - even if we only care about "space for driving" and don't care about the same for cycling at all!
I am a big guy and I fit perfectly in small A-segment cars. Other than boot space there is no real reason to get such huge cars, but I see much more huge cars than roof rack boxes.
The government should tax exponentially dimensions and weight (with a small extra allowance for electric cars) and everything will be fixed.
To be honest though the sizes in US are even more absurd.
I have a large 4x4 with a bed, kitchen and bathroom in the back, it's my daily driver. Can you see an exception to your reasoning?
I also fit in the category of respecting (most) speed limits and not close passing cyclists.
I have some sympathy. You have to pay out for excise duty and MOT irrespective of how often you use a vehicle so it probably makes economic sense to have one vehicle and use it for everything. A change to taxation by usage, and hence damage caused to roads and the environment, is what's needed, along with better public transport.
Thank you for respecting speed limits and not close passing cyclists but you will have to accept that your emissions (exhaust, tyre and brake) are not doing them any good.
You have to pay out for excise duty and MOT irrespective of how often you use a vehicle
Maybe in some places, but both are now optional in Lancashire, as WR56 ZVO demonstrates. First detected and reported 11.10.23
Why? I do, but do they have to accept that their emissions (concrete manufacture, plastics and carbon fuelled heating), assuming they don't live in Passiv Houses or houses of a similar standard, are not doing me any good?
Drivist entitlement.
Shouldn't you have at least some facts?
Its the boon in cobalt battery powered electric cars are the major new problem.
Very large and very heavy !
I was overtaken by an electric monster a few days ago. It was huge and I still think about it. It was so close and so impatient I could 'feel' its aggressive intent. It makes me so frustrated that drivers of these monsters don't understand how scary it is to be tailgated and then close passed.
Are you sure it was electric- that sounds more like an energon monster?
Almost makes you want to fall off and be run over just to teach them a lesson.
If a car parks and does not fit in the bay, issue them with a ticket. (I think I am correct in saying if you park outside the bay then you are fair game)
People will moan, but it's their choice to buy such a huge tin on wheels.
My wife got a ticket a good few years back for exactly that.
Just how big is your wife?
Does she get a centimetre wider every two years?
We all do.
I saw this in a local multi-storey car park recently - had to take a photo...
"The T&E study points to an increase in SUV sales. In 2013, the 'dual-purpose' sports utility vehicle represented 11 per cent of the market, now it makes up 28.6 per cent of registrations, analysis showed."
so 30% of cars sold are SUVs.
Yet about 0.3% of them at best will ever do more than a mile off-road.
Does it count as "off road" if they're on the footway?
Part of that statistics is that car manufacturers have shifted models into the SUV category, eg, the Ford Kuga a mini-suv, replaced the b-max a cutdown mpv. Both are about the same maximum dimensions, but the newer vehicle is more "rugged" in its styling and the category of vehicle has shifted accordingly.
Not saying it's right, but there are fewer non suv options if you're looking for a new vehicle.
The two drivers were less lucky than the bmw one.
#Cyclingmafia
Is that a photo you've taken or is it from the meeja?
twitter - but not everyone on here wants to login to X !
And abroad.
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