After the Telegraph’s headline of “lycra lout cyclists” going “52mph in a 20mph zone”, a columnist writing for the Independent has claimed that there’s a large crossover between “those nearly killing walking commuters and the head-to-toe [Lycra]-clad red-light jumpers going 40mph in a 20mph zone”.
The column belongs to Ellie Harrison, the Independent’s TV Editor and is titled “I ride a bike to work – but I’m sick of reckless cyclists ruining it for everyone”. She starts by painting a picture of crossing a road while walking to work on a bleary Monday morning with a cup of flat white in hand, but as a cyclist whizzes past her, she drops the scalding hot beverage on her leg — an experience she claims “anyone living in a UK city will know all too well”.
“Walk anywhere in central London these days, and you’ll see swarms of cyclists buzzing by. Pedestrians are suffering. Things need to change,” she writes.
However, Harrison gives a disclaimer that she “mostly cycles to work”, sometimes even wearing Lycra shorts. However, as a fairly responsible and normal person, she feels genuine shame most mornings, when she comes across cyclists nearly mowing down pedestrians as they jump red lights at high speed.
I ride a bike to work – but I’m sick of reckless cyclists ruining it for everyone https://t.co/GO3Rs4FOx5
— The Independent (@Independent) July 23, 2024
The column reads: “In the Venn diagram of types of bike people, there tends to be a large crossover between those nearly killing walking commuters and the head-to-toe Lyrca-clad [sic] red-light jumpers going 40mph in a 20mph zone. These speed freaks make the rest of us good guys look bad – they tarnish the cyclist brand and take away from all the wonderful things about biking.
However, Harrison confesses that she’s no saint — in fact, she says that she runs red lights occasionally – at about 5mph, when there are no pedestrians trying to cross and no cars in sight. She even argues in favour of “head starts” for cyclists in traffic junctions, which allow cyclists to go before traffic, and hold the left-turning traffic for longer.
The most dubious claim made in the piece, however, is the throwaway line of cyclists doing 40mph in a 20mph zone, much similar to the headline Telegraph ran in its newspaper on Friday 17 May this year: “52mph in a 20 zone… Lycra lout cyclists are creating death traps all over Britain.”

The headline led to a lot of backlash with the publisher even changing the headline on its website eventually, albeit the newspaper one had been set in stone, as it easily became known that doing 52mph in London traffic was a little bit too unbelievable, given six-time Olympic champion Sir Chris Hoy’s fastest ever speed was 80km/h, achieved on an optimal indoor velodrome in the keirin, a track cycling event where riders slipstream behind a derny to achieve faster speeds.
However, it looks like the Independent has downgraded that ludicrous speed to something slightly more believable of 40mph, or 64km/h, although we would still like to repeat a comment made by a cyclist on social media under the Telegraph post: “If you can ride through London at 52mph 40mph, please contact your local professional bicycling team. They may be interested in your skills.”
> 20 of the most hysterical Daily Mail anti-cycling headlines
Running a red light, meanwhile, can be of course be dangerous while also being illegal at any speed, as noted by another commenter under the column. They additionally wrote: “I query the remark about ‘Lyrca(sic)-clad red-light jumpers going 40mph in a 20mph zone’. How can she be sure they were doing 40mph? That speed is not at all easy for a moderately able cyclist to attain on a level road. Perhaps she had some sort of radar device? How can she be sure it wasn’t logging a motor vehicle?
“This has all the hallmarks of a classic anti-cycling rant. The fact that the writer claims to (occasionally, one presumes) get in the saddle, is no excuse.
“Today I came close to being run down by a bus. Its driver saw fit to overtake a parked vehicle and approach straight into my path. I had to hit the brakes hard – more so because it was a slight downhill. I suppose it was my fault for going downhill in the first place, wasn’t it?!”
According to the Highway Code, it is illegal to jump light red lights for cycles, and the number of pedestrians hit by cyclists has also increased by a third since 2020, as per data released by police in May. However, road casualty statistics show that bikes are involved in just 2 per cent of pedestrian casualties reported to and by the police.
There has also been the recent controversy around the “dangerous cycling bill” that received cross-party backing from both Labour and the Conservatives during the previous government’s tenure and could be passed under Prime Minister Keir Starmer.
On becoming law, it would introduce the specific offence of “causing death by dangerous, careless, or inconsiderate cycling, and causing serious injury by careless or inconsiderate cycling”, which would lead to tougher penalties for those who kill or injure while riding bikes, e-bikes, electric scooters, unicycles, and “personal transporters”.
A recent survey done by active travel charity Cycling UK also found that almost two-thirds of the UK are supportive of encouraging others to cycle more, with 70 per cent respondents also wanting to see more cycle-friendly routes across the country.
The charity also called on the Labour government to show its commitment to improving active travel in the country by allocating 10 per cent of the total transport budget to cycling and walking, while also moving away from the “culture war” and the “divisive rhetoric” around the topic stirred by the previous government to bed once and for all.

























95 thoughts on “ Independent columnist downgrades speed of “Lyrca-clad red-light jumpers” from 52mph to 40mph”
Either they’re putting
Either they’re putting something in the water in London or it’s much hillier than I thought!
I haven’t seen 40mph on anything remotely flat, in fact it takes a reasonable decline! Clearly I need to train more.
You’ve heard of cocaine
You’ve heard of cocaine sharks & bears? We’re the saaaaarf London equivalent it seems
Shermo wrote:
I’ve had a reasonable decline – it’s made me even less likely to reach 40mph.
40 mph is easy on the slopes
40 mph is easy on the slopes in SE London. I’m 69 with a heavy aluminium town bike and carbon Ultegra Roubaix. I’ve done over 30 mph on fixed gear down hill to Woolwich overtaking a big artic lorry. Brake wear is something to monitor carefully. The Mezzo folder will be slower but I need to finish rebuilding it
Shermo wrote:
Oh, I’ve done nearly 50mph on the flat, easy…on a perfectly-surfaced costal road near Valencia with a 40mph-gusting-to-60-mph tailwind blowing and no other traffic, lights, junctions or side turnings to worry about and with no buildings either side of the road so perfect sightlines. It was great fun (I got the train back the other way) but these are not, in my experience, conditions that usually prevail in central London.
North of River, mostly flat
North of River, mostly flat for several miles. South of River, straight into steep hills, some less steep but quite long. We moved from East Ham to just off Shooters Hill. Plenty of 40+ mph riding both sane (me) and reckless or burn out brake pads. Less confident riders use pavements for fear of other cyclists. Unfortunately, a lot of reckless riders also use pavements
The journo seems concerned
The journo seems concerned about culture war issues between cyclists & drivers, but then provokes one between cyclists (but only the type she’s not) and pedestrians?
Weird isn’t it though, I have a 25km each way commute into that London, so I keep up a good pace & have the temerity to wear Spandex (the rock & roll version of lycra). Yet I stop at red lights & in my experience it’s just as often the slower “nodders” commuting by bike that habitually ignore red lights (one assumes because their journey wouldn’t be that quick if they didn’t?). I just treat it as urban interval work & take pleasure in counting how often I can overtake the same RLJer whilst sticking to the rules myself. My record is 8 on CS7.
Exactly. I was doing that in
Exactly. I was doing that in 1980s and 90s. Fewer cyclists, big SUVs & pick-up trucks, traffic lights: ease up before red light and accelerate on green for interval training. Occasionally ripping off freewheel teeth until no more Suntour Ultra6 available even in old box under bike shop workbenches. Did same with RLJers. Happy days.
Unfortunately, there were mad riders even then who blasted across red lights and zebra crossings swerving round pushchairs and old folk who made me ashamed to be on a bike as pedestrians looked scared at me and could hardly believe I’d stopped
Occasionally I get a militant
Occasionally I get a militant road crosser shouting at me because “you lot” don’t stop (despite the evidence before their eyes). Has happened at least 3 times since the lockdowns at red lights I’ve been waiting at and once when I was making my through a green & the ped in question stepped out ahead of a stream of us without looking (I put that one own to shock/embarrassment & therefore defensive posturing). I do get the whole “tarred by the same brush” argument but it doesn’t seem equally applied to speeding/RLJing drivers, pavement parkers or zombie pedestrians.
I guess the “some people are d!cks” article doesn’t read as well if there isn’t a mention of lycra to the fore.
Clem Fandango wrote:
That’s exactly my experience cycling in London too. It’s the “people on bikes” not the cyclists who are more likely to RLJ.
matthewn5 wrote:
I’m confused – surely “people on bikes” is pretty much the definition of cyclists? Is this some kind of “no true Scotsman”?
hawkinspeter wrote:
It’s really irritating returning to your bike (or quad) only to find people on it?
A lazy journalist wrote:
I know some people are into their skinsuits these days, but I didn’t realise cycling onesies were now a thing.
Tbf: I might have a buff
Tbf: I might have a buff under helmet in winter, another around neck, cycling jersey, arm warmers, bib shorts, leggings, socks might have lycra. That’s head to toe clothes containing lycra
I remember when journalism
I remember when journalism was a respected trade but now it’s full of liars and more liars.
In my fittest days, I could only just reach 40mph on a slight decline and only for a short distance and I was a 200 miles a week rider so I think this lady is another teller of untruths but the telegraph and mail readers will believe every word and continue to hate cyclists.
Blimey – you’ve got a long
Blimey – you’ve got a long memory!
(It has changed in say the last decade – there’s more “churnalism” but it’s not completely so – and there was plenty inaccurate, fantastic or plain mendacious stuff in the past also. Recommend Andrew Marr’s book “My Trade” for an interesting potted long view).
Hahaha. Touchè.
Hahaha. Touchè.
mrb wrote:
Not in my lifetime, but then, I’m only 72, so perhaps your memories are longer than mine.
I think the least respected professions are in ascending order:
Politicians
Estate Agents
Journalists
But I could be wrong.
More tiresome nonsense. As
More tiresome nonsense. As someone who commutes by bike in London daily, I can confirm that there are some people who run red lights. No, they’re not mostly “lycra clad”. The majority are people on Lime bikes and delivery riders on homebrew e-bikes. And no cyclist goes at 40mph, obviously.
Am I the only one wondering
Am I the only one wondering why the picture The Independant used was of a full cycle lane? It’s almost as if it is easier to find responsible cyclists than irresponsible ones.
Not round here in SE London
Not round here in SE London it isn’t. Possibly because the cycle lanes are so bad, most are empty at most times of day from 6.00 am to late evening when I’m out walking or cycling. Of the bike lane users, a high proportion are huge, ebikes that fill the lane and blast across pedestrians or slower pedal cycles
You can’t tell how fast they
You can’t tell how fast they are going in a photo. All of those cyclists are doing at least 40. At least!
Ellie Harrison “I’m a cyclist
Ellie Harrison “I’m a cyclist myself, but……diatribe, alternative facts, delusions”.
The media bias against cycling is profound and almost universal, but why? Cycling is the answer to more of society’s problems than anything else, but journalists insist on attacking it, because it’s an easy target and cyclists are an out group, and they can’t attack people on racial or sexual grounds any more, so cyclists fit the bill nicely.
I think we should invite all the journos who have written such articles to a meeting to discuss their views, lock the doors and pump in car exhaust gas until they change their minds. Or write lots of anti-journalist articles on social media: after all, journos aren’t protected either.
eburtthebike wrote:
I genuinely believe that a lot of the hatred that the media have is a reflection of drivers’ jealousy of cyclists ability to skip past urban traffic queues whilst not spending a fortune on a monthly car lease or fuel bill.
Jem PT wrote:
Yes. We’re in the way (taking up too much space, despite being smaller than cars) and we’re undertaking (filtering, that is).
Not seen studies on this but I think it’s the usual “out-grouping” plus our underlying psychological “cheater detection”. Like all chimpanzees we’re sensitive to those who are in the game (sharing the same road) but “different” – and not playing by the rules (not going at the minimum speed limits and then not waiting in the queue of other vehicles – plus of course “road tax” although I think that is an afterthought).
In particular when those with lower status (minorities – cyclists definitely fit here) transgress the “rules” this triggers us (chimp paper here).
I got called a ”wan” the
I got called a ”wan” the other day by a driver going in the opposite direction. Not sure what a wan is but he looked very cross so I assume it wasn’t complimentary.
perce wrote:
I always thought ‘wan’ meant ‘pale and interesting’. Have you been overusing your suntan lotion? 😉
Maybe just a little pale from
Maybe just a little pale from being close passed and otherwise intimidated.
perce wrote:
A man in a van
Once called me a “wan”:
His meaning I could not infer.
Maybe one day
He’ll come back this way
And then he’ll deliver the “ker”.
Ban pedestrianing whilst
Ban pedestrianing whilst holding a hot beverage!
It’s possible for some
It’s possible for some cyclists to reach over 30mph on some downhill sections.
In another scenario, some e bikes are unrestricted to allow even higher speeds. Just this weekend I saw a guy riding a mono wheeled hover bike passing cars travelling at 30mph on both sides of the road. Admittedly, that’s not a bike but the problem is still the same.
Last week I did 112 mph on
Last week I did 112 mph on the flat into a headwind. But I was wearing head-to-toe Lycra.
Ah so it was you crawling
Ah so it was you crawling along forcing me to ride on the pavement, through a red light at 150mph??
I saw a bloke on a electric
I saw a bloke on a electric scooter going easily 30mph in the dark without lights last Saturday night.
On the pavement and he hit a
On the pavement and he hit a wheelchair user.
Oh, it’s only cyclists that do that.
bluemoonday wrote:
This is the same problem as with the article. How did you determine the speed of the cars and the mono-thingy? Observers see a cyclist doing 18mph and they think they are going too fast. They see a car going at 25mph in a 20mph limit and think it is going too slow. Without a speed gun it is just heresay.
Sadly, since the once
Sadly, since the once respectable Independent became a wholly-owned subsidiary of the Kremlin, whatever an “Independent columist” has to say is as undeserving of attention as the words of anyone writing for the Telegraph, the Mail, the Express, the Sun, Reach group local newspapers… the list goes on. Please stop giving these people extra oxygen of publicity – or any oxygen, full stop.
Prompts lots of discussion
Prompts lots of discussion though don’t it
Coincidently, I was having
Coincidently, I was having this discussion with a colleague last week – how fast can you get your e-cargo bike to go downhill. (We are talking legal e-cargo bikes) We both have reached around 30 going down hill on a very long, wide road and with no wind, no parked cars, no side roads, relatively smooth surface – just a long straight run. When the bikes are loaded with our equipment etc they are heavier and can pick up more speed. Obviously what we were both forgetting to do was dress in Lycra – then we could have reached speeds of 50 plus.
30mph is easy for any cyclist
30mph is easy for any cyclist on any type of bike down even relatively short not even that steep hills.
I usually lose my nerve at that point to go faster, as catch a bump wrong, have wildlife leap out in front of you, a crash is going to hurt just wearing lycra.
But on the flat those speeds are just an exaggeration.
Even if the point hidden in the article is valid, some cyclists can be dicks when they ride.
stonojnr wrote:
A crash would hurt no matter what you were wearing.
30 is not easy on a cargo
30 is not easy on a cargo bike. You need a downhill section to get the speed up and to sustain the speed.
Speaking as a driver I have
Speaking as a driver I have to tell you that I’m ashamed of speeding / drink / disqualified * drivers…… Said nobody ever.
* delete as appropriate
Quote:
So did she cross the road without looking?
And what is a flat while?
And what is a flat while?
(almost sounds like a nasty insult to a rotund female in a South African accent…)
You know, I hadn’t even
You know, I hadn’t even noticed that! I’d read it as “a cup of flat white”. Which I imagine was her intention but if she can’t even spell “Lycra”…
tootsie323 wrote:
I don’t know – ordered ages ago but still waiting.
I do find it bizarre that her
I do find it bizarre that her prime example of inconsiderate cycling involves someone stepping into the road into incoming traffic.
“Cyclists”, innit…
“Cyclists”, innit…
And more to the point in
And more to the point in London she’s probably stepping into a cycle lane into bike riders travelling in said cycle lane.
A Tour de France sprint
A Tour de France sprint finish will typically hit a maximum speed of around 43mph whilst exerting around 1,500 watts.
Because of how aerodynamics work, resistance increases with the cube of the speed (i.e. to double your speed, you need to increase power by 8 times). To increase your speed from 43 to 53mph you’d need to output about 75% additional power – so somewhere over 2,600 watts.
I’d love to see these commuters who are putting out such numbers on their morning commute.
So would every World Tour
So would every World Tour team!
You may wish to change your
You may wish to change your headline to correct the word “LYRCA”
You might want to keep
You may wish to keep reading…
Jack Sexty wrote:
Sic burn
Unfortunately, we live in a
Unfortunately, we live in a society where it’s acceptable and expected to drive at 35 mph in a 30 mph zone, but if you drive at 25 mph you will be flashed and honked at to speed up or move over. Until society flips this on it’s head, children are going to be continuously killed on a daily basis, good luck society, people would rather kill their own children than adhere to the highway code and speed limits.
No Tony that’s rather harsh,
No Tony that’s rather harsh, drivers would rather kill someone else’s children than slow down.
jaymack wrote:
They don’t discriminate – quite often see them with their kids not strapped in or (worse) holding a small child on their lap, between themselves and the seatbelt.
Last week I was trundling
Last week I was trundling into the office on my Suzuki sportsbike, making a point of sticking to the 20mph speed limit. The car driver behind me decided that this was an affront to his manhood and started beeping his horn, before rushing past me on the inside with a dangerously close pass. All he did of course was to get to the rear of the same queue of cars at the next set of lights a little earlier than he would have otherwise. I came alongside him and menitioned in a very calm voice that he was lucky I didn’t have my helmet cam on as that would’ve resulted in six points on his licence otherwise.
It’s not just cyclists who get close passes from stupid drivers.
From her article “There’s
From her article “There’s already a culture war between cyclists and motorists.”
No, there’s a culture war between cyclists and the MSM, which sees attacking cyclists as a cheap, easy, legal way of getting lots of clicks so that advertisers will cough up.
A cheap easy way of getting
A cheap easy way of getting lots of clicks for ad revenues you say, surely not just the MSM is it
I didn’t realise the
I didn’t realise the Independent had a “mouth-breathing cycle-troll” layer, but we live and learn.
It’s moved a long way from it
It’s moved a long way from it’s fine broadsheet days.
I think this is the woman who
I think this is the woman who used to be on Countryfile but who has, I’m pleased to see, now left. What a dimwit! I suppose she’s angling for a job on the Mail.
wtjs wrote:
No it’s not, there’s more than one Ellie Harrison.
https://uk.linkedin.com/in/ellie-harrison-88362b99
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ellie_Harrison_(journalist)
Thanks, but she’s definitely
Thanks, but she’s definitely a dimwit.
Thinking about the 33%
Thinking about the 33% increase in pedestrian hit by cyclists since 2020, does anyone else think this will partly be down to the relentless MSM attacks on cycling?
Think about it, if as a cyclist, the consistent messages you receive are ‘all cyclists run red lights’ and ‘no one is doing anything to stop cyclists running red lights’ will this make you more, or less inclined to slip through the odd red light yourself?
At the same time, if you are a pedestrian, you could take from that messaging that you need to look out for cyclists around red lights as they don’t stop, but you could also take a more militant attitude which says ‘cyclists are always in the wrong, I’m not cowing down to their lawlessness… give way to me lycra-rat!’
It’s time the very real repercussions of the MSM click-bait coverage is called out.
Then you are a dolt in either
Then you are a dolt in either case.
Jimmy Ray Will wrote:
Much less in my case, when I approach a red and think “actually I could run this without doing any harm” I don’t do it because I don’t want to add fuel to the anti-cycling fire. Quite possibly a futile gesture but hey ho.
if I can safely stop in time
if I can safely stop in time I always will, partly because yeah I want to demonstrate fwiw not all cyclists run red lights, but also Im quite happy for the recovery pause quite often.
stonojnr wrote:
I must admit that if I’m riding hard quite often I will be approaching the lights thinking please go red, please go red, don’t make me ride through…
I enjoy it when the car
I enjoy it when the car behind me shoots through the red, the car behind them stops and the driver of this car and I exchange looks.
For shizzle… but I don’t
For shizzle… but I don’t see the problem being ‘proper’ cyclists, or more accurately, those invested enough to be posting on cycling websites.
The problem will be those commuters who’s ony riding will be the daily ride to and from work. They probably wouldn’t class themselves as cyclists, probably hate cyclists; they won’t be thinking about the wider implications of their actions, merely that they are not going to get caught, so balls to it!
Yeah it probably is. I
Yeah it probably is. I recently stopped at temporary traffic lights for roadworks at a crossroads outside Chessington, joining a queue of vehicles waiting for red to turn green. Another cyclist came up the outside, went ahead of the lights, hauled his bike across a high kerb and gravel (nearly falling over) and carried on his ride with a car being driven through legally from the left going quite close to hitting him. What a nob.
Jimmy Ray Will wrote:
I’d say that the root cause of the problems is lack of traffic policing. If drivers and cyclists thought that there was a good chance that they’d get caught, then most of them wouldn’t bother RLJing as it wouldn’t be worth the risk for making your journey a few seconds quicker (though cyclists gain more from RLJing as they can keep momentum which makes a big difference to them).
Unfortunately, we’re always going to have a section of the press that pushes toxicity, so we just need to ensure that drivers aren’t emboldened by lack of policing (or nonsensical sentencing).
its the lack of enforcement
its the lack of enforcement for sure, theres such low risk of getting caught most drivers ignore red lights, but traffic light cameras are an effective tool, I know costs are always an issue and it falls to councils/highways depts rather than the police that install them.
but the current situation does lead to crashes, injuries, damage & costs to the economy
I think probably the majority
I think probably the majority of people stick to the rules at lights – most have a sense of self-preservation if nothing else. It does seem to me that the “accepted grace period” after the lights go amber (“stop”!) has extended – judging by numbers. I’d say over the last decade. (Yes, I know “amber gambler” isn’t a new concept).
My experience is that it’s not uncommon that your light is green but there is still a vehicle clearing the junction from another direction.
This is also “situational” I think – there are clearly some places where this seems more common, probably for a bunch of reasons.
I wonder whether the mostly unchecked expansion of this behaviour actually sets up incentives for those who otherwise would stop not to do so? For fear of being rear-ended by those expecting to foot down and truck on through when they see an amber light? (Or just people who are less observant around traffic lights / only looking for red?)
As a London cyle commuter, at
As a London cyle commuter, at most junctions I tend to wait for the last couple of vehicles to finish jumping the red light before I push off.
The whole “I ride a bike
The whole “I ride a bike occasionally too, but” is the same as “I have [insert minority group] friends, but” that is usually followed by some sort of very discriminatory comment.
The Independent is correct,
The Independent is correct, at least in central London. In my experience, many cyclists in central London run red lights. This behaviour significantly damages our public image and provides ammunition for attacks on cycling.
It’s high time we stopped making excuses for red-light jumping. We should also stop the whataboutery; poor car driving doesn’t excuse cyclists from jumping red lights.
I don’t – but because I often
I don’t – but because I often travel by bike people still called me a bloody cyclist.
Now what?
https://cyclingfallacies.com/en/55/collective-responsibility-collective-guilt
The only way round it is to change the culture *. The only way that’s likely to happen is if there are LOTS of cyclists / everyone cycles some trips – or their family or friends do. To get *there* – see Seville, some places in Scandinavia … or NL for how far you can get.
* There is another way round it – we can continue the direction most of the UK is going so that cycling continues to disappear as a mode of transport, and the media loses interest because there are so few bogeyman.
BTW lots of people tell me
BTW lots of people tell me that “London has a *problem* with this”. I can believe it’s highly salient at some points.
I imagine a) it’s early days for more than a few % cycling – so everyone is still adapting b) … and also for enforcement – but the UK has pretty minimal road rule enforcement everywhere.
Genuinely wonder what the actual KSI numbers are (against baselines like rate that people get killed by drivers at traffic lights).
Hopefully I’ll live to see at least some places in the UK figure out we don’t need tons of traffic lights for cyclists…
https://www.aviewfromthecyclepath.com/2014/02/every-traffic-light-in-assen.html
What if you haven’t got a
What if you haven’t got a public image?
john_smith wrote:
Isn’t there a company that will do you one? This one sounds like they do:
https://www.pilofficial.com/#/
Crikey. They still going!?
Crikey. They still going!?
Well if the Stones are…
Well if the Stones are…
To be fair, Lydon looks
To be fair, Lydon looks healthier than he did 40 years ago if pics on their website are anything to go by.
The claim is they do it at
The claim is they do it at 40mph.
5mph faster than the Tour de France time trial speed record.
The columnist is a BS-artist.
Not really. She didn’t say
Not really. She didn’t say how long they keep it up for. Top sprinters often do 45 mph these days. And they aren’t clad from head to toe in Lyrca.
There’s a lovely smooth road
There’s a lovely smooth road coming down from Newlands Corner in Surrey with some fairly steep parts. I can do 40mph and more on parts of that. Same with the steep road out of Muro towards Sa Pobla in Mallorca (* many other steep downhills also available). But there weren’t any traffic lights so I suppose they don’t count.
When The Daily Mail Trust
When The Daily Mail Trust bought The Independant they promised editorial indepence would be maintained. This article (pure Daily Mail fodder) would suggest otherwise.
Jem PT wrote:
The Independent isn’t owned by the Daily Mail, it’s owned by Russian oligarch Alexander Lebedev (you may have understandably confused them because the Daily Mail Trust does own the i, which it purchased in 2019 and which was originally a sister paper to the Independent, but the two are now completely separate entities under different ownership). Lebedev also owns the Evening Standard in London which is not exactly renowned for its cycle-friendliness, so there may be editorial interference, but there’s always the possibility that editors can come up with this drivel independently, as it were.
Ah yes, my mistake.
Ah yes, my mistake.
Indepent drivel: I like it.
Indepent drivel: I like it.
Ive not broke 40mph at all
Ive not broke 40mph at all this year; I do do it occaisionaly though, with the right hill, surface, visibility, wind etc, but all need to be in place to do that I can’t imagine those conditions in a 20mph zone.