Motorist crushes bike and speeds off with cyclist on bonnet during road rage confrontation; Cycle lane bollard; Rapha jersey listed on Ebay for £105k; Canadian rider outsprints grizzly bear; Highway Code quiz; Aero gains + more on the live blog
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Limited edition Rapha jersey listed for £105,000 on Ebay...again
Wow much??? pic.twitter.com/Gh2ftgIXds
— 🚴🏻♂️Ralpha (aka Phil)🚴🏻♂️ (@2wheelsnot4) August 23, 2021
The last time this limited edition Rapha jersey designed by Sir Paul Smith to commemorate the Tour de France’s London Grand Depart in 2007 was spotted on Ebay was in 2017. Then, it was up for £10,000. Now there’s one up for ten times that…
The mysterious seller 19joe80 seems a good sport and will chuck in delivery for free too. The listing attracted quite a surprised audience on social media when the aptly named ‘Ralpha (aka Phil)’ posted a pic of the eye-watering price tag and another snap of his enquiry to the seller, “How much? Did you get the decimal point in the wrong place?”
IronPhil joked the jersey’s a bargain and is “the cheap end of the Rapha range!” Another account named Karafalos suggested a teasing lowball offer of a fiver could get the message across…
It’s gravel specific…
— Super Dave. Riding a bike, living his life. (@5up3rDave) August 23, 2021
It’s got a spare button at least.
— Karen Trotter (@KarenTrotter20) August 23, 2021
Aero gains? Team Bike Exchange pro Nick Schultz shows off his favourite five shades
😎😎😎 #LaVuelta21 @nick_schultz5 just showing off his extensive @sciconsports sunglasses collection.
When you have too many to choose from, just stick them all on! 😂 pic.twitter.com/21PTRIpTbZ
— Team BikeExchange (@GreenEDGEteam) August 24, 2021
How many pairs of glasses does a pro rider need? Five, apparently.
Dangerous bike lane bollard
We’re aiming for at least 20-30 cyclists a day with this one. We could double that at night 🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻#WorldBollardAssociation @RobinTRiley pic.twitter.com/Wtvl9riY4u
— World Bollard Association™ (@WorldBollard) August 21, 2021
Hard to work out the thought process behind this black bollard ‘strategically’ placed bang in the middle of a bike lane. My best guess at understanding it would be that it marks the end of the bike lane as it looks like car parking beyond it? That attempt at working it out could age terribly however. Maybe it is just a bike lane with cars parked in it and a dangerous bollard?
The issue isn’t trivial though. Earlier this year bollards described as “hostile” by a cycling campaigner caused an Edinburgh cyclist to crash. Dean Loughton needed surgery on a broken elbow after the crash on the Pennywell Road pop-up cycle lane caused by the base of the black bollard being covered by snow and poor visibility.
Worse still, last August a coroner’s inquest heard how a cyclist in Devon died from injuries after he crashed into a bollard on a popular cycling trail which was installed to stop motorists driving across a bridge.
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Nearly 2,000 of you voted.
62% think they would get 8/10 or more.
Time to test that out…
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— Roads Policing Unit (RPU) – Surrey Police – UK (@SurreyRoadCops) August 23, 2021
Related to the big story on yesterday’s blog…Surrey Police has followed up its poll by challenging the 62 per cent who backed themselves to walk the walk on Gov.UK’s practice theory test for getting your driving licence.
Cycling UK's new 150-mile Cornwall cycle route
Cycling UK is launching a new 150-mile cycle route in Cornwall this Friday. A group of riders will set out from the Western Promenade in Penzance to officially ride the new route for the first time. The West Kernow Way is Cycling UK’s latest long distance cycling trail and at 150 miles (230km) is designed to be ridden over three to four days.
The charity spent more than a year working on developing the route, speaking to landowners while plotting and recceing bridleways, byways and quiet country roads. It aims to offer adventurous cyclists a route showing them the best of the county, while avoiding more popular tracks and trails. The GPX route files will be made available this Friday.
It is the fourth long distance off-road cycling route Cycling UK has launched since its North Downs Way route was unveiled in 2018. Since then they’ve released the 800-mile Great North Trail from the Peak District to either Cape Wrath or John O’Groats as well as King Alfred’s Way. Two further routes are planned for 2022 in Kent and Norfolk.
Unpre-bear-ed cyclist's frightening grizzly encounter prompts officials to issue warning
Officials from Alberta Parks in Canada have issued a warning for the area after a cyclist was charged at by a grizzly bear. The rider was cycling along the Smith Dorrien Highway near Buller Pond when he heard a thumping and huffing sound behind him.
“He looked over his shoulder and saw a grizzly bear running behind him at close range – within two metres,” Greg Part, spokesperson for AEP told RMOToday. “The cyclist sprinted on his bike and used a downhill section to gain distance. The bear gave up the chase and retreated into the woods.” Unbearlievable.
The park officials reminded cyclists to carry bear spray and try to be aware of your surroundings when in bear country. Experts from Bow Valley WildSmart say higher speeds can actually increase the probability of a surprise encounter.
“The fact is that most cyclists are fast and quiet, and when you’re quick and quiet, that’s a potential for a disaster, for running into bears,” said Nick de Ruyter, WildSmart’s program director. “You don’t want to surprise wildlife, particularly bears, and by doing these things like making noise, you’re not necessarily preventing those encounters, but you’re reducing the chance of surprising a bear.” Now there’s a proper excuse not to sort your creaky bottom bracket out…
Well that's one way to stop close passes...
People always say cyclists need to be more afraid of cars, because in a collision, the car wins.
It doesn’t have to be like that. We can _both_ lose. pic.twitter.com/lowq0BEKkZ
— Colin Dellow (@cldellow) August 21, 2021
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Inside the Vuelta a España with Ineos Grenadiers
Catch up on the start of the Vuelta a España with this behind the scenes video from Ineos Grenadiers. Today’s post-rest day stage is widely expected to be a breakaway day, which might explain why after 85km the peloton still hasn’t let a group of escapees take a significant advantage.
19 riders, including Ineos’ Dylan van Baarle and Jhonatan Narváez hold a slender ten second gap, but expect the attacks to continue for a while yet…
Motorist runs over bike and speeds off with cyclist on bonnet after road rage confrontation
A motorist in the affluent Melbourne suburb of St Kilda drove off with a cyclist on their bonnet, crushing the rider’s bike, after a road rage confrontation. Witnesses said the cyclists were unhappy with the driver trying to cut up them up and challenged his dangerous driving.
In the video the driver can be heard saying: “I will f***ing destroy you, I’ve got money mate.” Before one of the cyclists mocked the man’s car, asking if it is “his wife’s car?”
The Mercedes driver then sped off with the most vocal cyclist jumping on the bonnet to try and stop him. The driver continued, throwing the man off his vehicle as he crushed the bike lying on the road on his way past.
Victoria Police have reportedly spoken to both the cyclists and the driver but have not yet charged anyone involved.
Comment of the day...
Scam website
A quick shout to avoid this website claiming to sell Merida, Scott, Giant, Orbea and Liv bikes. The ‘about us’ page should tell you it’s not be trusted: “Founded in 2012, we are one of Britain’s most popular knives online retailer. and offer top notch customer service all over British.” Right.
The site lists all sorts of attractive deals on bikes and the URL is weird too…https://www.michelleconnorauthor.co.uk/ despite otherwise looking quite professional. News editor Simon was quick to note the scammers clearly have a sense of humour. That’s Michelle Connor, the author of a novel called ‘The Deceived’.
Something a bit different...top ten human-powered aircraft
Reader Anke got in touch to share this list of the top ten human-powered aircraft and, to be honest, up until this exact moment it’s not something I’ve ever considered. The 31kg Gossamer Condor which was ridden across the English Channel took HushKit‘s top spot.
A niche vaguely cycling-related post, but something I’m sure some of you will find it interesting. If cycling into the sky is your thing, check it out here…
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The cyclist here needs to look into Section 142 of the Magistrates' Court Act 1980, firstly because there was no offence, and secondly because it appears that the police mislead the Court. "A magistrates’ court may vary or rescind a sentence or other order imposed or made by it when dealing with an offender if it appears to the court to be in the interests of justice to do so;] and it is hereby declared that this power extends to replacing a sentence or order which for any reason appears to be invalid by another which the court has power to impose or make." https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1980/43/section/142
I wonder how well advised the cyclist was in Court? And in this case would cycling legal insurance cover the cost of a specialist solicitor?
@quiff I would expect the police had not been trained with the change, perhaps.
@courteousdriver The Highway Code does not differentiate between cars and bikes in this instance, it says that when overtaking parked cars you must give way to oncoming traffic. It's not for you to decide whether or not they have sufficient space in your opinion, you should not drive in the oncoming traffic lane if there is any oncoming traffic, full stop. Not a difficult rule to understand and one that one would have thought a self-named courteousdriver would have no trouble obeying.
@mctrials23 It seems to me that the car moved closer to the kerb on his side of the road, and the cyclist was able to proceed entirely within his own lane - both at very slow speed. So there is no ground for an offence. The concerning point is that the copper thinks that the same "gap" should apply to the different types of vehicle. That's peak carbrain.
Peripheral to your point, but parking facing oncoming traffic is advised against at all times, but only an offence at night, I think?
@mac f 1896 If you look closely at the video you will see that the cyclist remains entirely in his own lane on his side of the white lines as he passes the oncoming vehicle, which also stays entirely within its lane. There is therefore no need for either road user to give way to the other and as they are both travelling at low speeds there is no danger to themselves or to any other road users. I would love to see a transcript of the magistrates' court proceedings as prima facie there is no justification in law for the guilty finding or for the penalty imposed.
@perce pedantry but I think Séamus Ennis would be scunnered with that ... had he not been Irish... (Uilleann pipes are bagpipes of course, though personally I'd much rather those - or small pipes - than the GHB)
@quiff I think you are probably right here - but - is that _really_ being inconsiderate to the oncoming driver? Looking again at the video, the oncoming driver appears to be over the centre line when approaching the parked vehicle and just seems to be straightening the bend a little, so you would expect them to be moving towards the kerb anyway. As driving interactions go, it's about as benign as it gets. I expect the magistrate has never ridden a bicycle, but I also wonder if they've ever driven a car?!
Thanks - I only had a quick peek on Streetview and I'm glad it works for locals, but it looked like "you say 'shared used facility', I say 'same old not-over-generous footway now with the odd blue sign". We don't need cycle paths absolutely everywhere, but looking at the size of the road, where it goes and runs though I would be thinking more like this (minus parked cars): https://maps.app.goo.gl/gswbQefKzc47nEJm8 Or... declare it an urban freeway and get rid of the junctions and houses next to it! Maximum flow...
64 thoughts on “Motorist crushes bike and speeds off with cyclist on bonnet during road rage confrontation; Cycle lane bollard; Rapha jersey listed on Ebay for £105k; Canadian rider outsprints grizzly bear; Highway Code quiz; Aero gains + more on the live blog”
That listing has been up for
That listing has been up for well over a year. It’s not new. No takers, amazingly. Am intrigued by it tho – why go to the trouble of listing and relisting something that nobody is going to buy at that price?
I thought listings like this
I thought listings like this were when a seller has no stock of an item but does not want to lose the listing so rather than remove it they price it so that nobody will try and buy it, then when they re-stock they price it correctly. Not sure in this case though.
Andski808 wrote:
Aaah, but you only have to sell it once. You stick with me Rodders, this time next year we’ll be millionaires…
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Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.
Ceci n’est pas une pipe
Ceci n’est pas une pipe
The bollard photo needs to
The bollard photo needs to show more of the street scene to give it’s full context,but its almost certainly there imo to prevent motorised vehicle access via the cycle lane to avoid other bollards, there looks like a gate post/chain and maybe even a bollard on the pavement, or access restrictions, and as per normal hasnt taken account of the cyclists needs.
I tried that practise theory
I tried that practise theory test, and as a non-driver managed 42/50, but in my defence I was rushing through it (took less than 10 minutes) whilst eating some breakfast.
One of the question that I got wrong was about parking lights – I had no idea such a thing existed and have never seen them in use.
I have seen then rarely. VW (
I have seen then rarely. VW (?) you turned the indicator on after parking and it lit up one side of the vehicle.
I’ve seen them in use,
I’ve seen them in use, usually incorrectly. People indicate left to pull in (…No…really…they sometimes do!..) and leave the indicator stalk down, thus showing lights on the left hand side, rather than the right. I suspect they don’t even know that they have parking lights fitted.
Yeah I got that one wrong as
Yeah I got that one wrong as I assumed (incorrectly) that the rule about using parking lights couldn’t be right as not all cars have parking lights fitted. Maybe they would expect you to use sidelights if the vehicle doesn’t have parking lights, but I know my battery wouldn’t last all night if I did that with my van. My car has parking lights, but I have never needed them.
I got pretty much all of the
I got pretty much all of the questions about order of lights on traffic lights wrong 🙁
(I don’t really think about what comes next, and I’m never in a hurry).
brooksby wrote:
That cost me 2 points too. I’ve never really worried about the cycle since our Cycling Proficiency instructor taught us that “all colours except green mean ‘Stop'”.
Also got the colour of slip road studs wrong (don’t tend to be cycling on the motorway…) and the one about turning left (think I had Bikeability in mind, where it advises you to move out more central for a better view into the junction and a better turning line).
48 out of 50, how do
48 out of 50, how do potential motorists, who have been recently reading and absorbing the highway code fail this?
Never driven, cycling proficiency best part of 40 years back.
Car reversing out of a driveway, then I failed on IT ability and used the “back” button, so I will never know what else I was wrong with, grrr.
I will fail on hazard perception though, I will identify far too many, everything is a potential hazard for us…
I honestly didn’t think I’d
I honestly didn’t think I’d manage 8/10 on a test of the Highway Code, but to my astonishment I got 47/50 on that mock. Lots of lucky guesses!
47 here too, but didn’t feel
47 here too, but didn’t feel confident of some of them. Don’t feel too bad about failing the one that started with the bare faced lie “you wish to a tow a trailer”.
46. It’s true that cyclists
46. It’s true that cyclists make the best drivers.
My only disappointment was that there was no question about what to do if you aren’t sure your vision is up to driving; as we all know, the answer is to go for a 50 mile test drive.
eburtthebike wrote:
I had a question about what to do if you’re not sure what impact cough mixture has had on you. Going for a short drive was an option
Jogle wrote:
Nah, that is for concerns over your eyesight.
Sniffer wrote:
No, that requires a long drive to a very specific historic destination.
Jogle wrote:
Well if it’s good enough for testing your eyesight, why not your level of consciousness?
#BarnardCastle
50/50 But that’s because I’m
50/50 But that’s because I’m a motorcylist, and it’s a well known fact motorcyclists are the best drivers.
Clearly it’s not difficult
Clearly it’s not difficult enough if I can score 45 and am from Australia and haven’t read the Highway Code. If Surrey police believe that a significant number of UK drivers wouldn’t score 40, you should find that genuinely terrifying.
wasn’t happy with some of the
wasn’t happy with some of the answers, approaching a zebra crossing and a disabled person wants to cross.
Apparently we should not stop, but only be prepared to stop. Only actually stop once they move into the road, I guess. FFS
And i felt the answer to approaching a roundabout following a cylist indicating right, should have been, “stay behind the cyclist” (not an option), rather than “give them plenty of room.” which some may interpret as passing wide just before the roundabout, or even on the roundabout.
Irrelevant that they are in a
Irrelevant that they are in a wheelchair – you don’t know that they do want to use the zebra.
Was disappointed for the 2 roundabouts that there was no option for ‘as per nmotd 623’
I failed to watch the whole of the video at the end !
hirsute wrote:
Agree it’s irrelevant that they are in a wheelchair, but the question expressly stated that they were waiting to cross. One of the few rules in the Highway Code where a lot of drivers are actually more generous than the rule, and will often stop for someone waiting at or even approaching a crossing, even though they technically don’t have to (until the new HWC…)
hirsute wrote:
The questioned is phrased that they are “waiting to cross”. But cars should not stop until they enter the crossing?, however rule 18 instructs pedestrians to “always check that the traffic has stopped before you start to cross”
so what chance does that give them. Drivers don’t stop until pedestrians are already in the road, but pedestrians should not start to cross until traffic has stopped.
If I see ANYONE waiting to cross at a zebra crossing I will stop (not be prepared to stop, actually stop). If I am near a crossing as a pedestrian and not wanting to cross I make this very clear by standing well back from the edge of the road, or looking away from the road.
The new highway code is
The new highway code is revising this wording to clear up the ambiguity.
Not every pedestrians is as considerate as you !
But I’d say with that one the
But I’d say with that one the answer was as per the highway code wording so that made sense to me, whereas some of them the wording of the answer was just odd like you follow two cyclists approaching a roundabout in the left lane…where do you expect the cyclists to go…any direction!?!
I mean fine it’s trying to funnel you towards dont assume the direction they are going answer, be prepared to let them take any direction, but am I supposed to assume they are or are not also following the highway code here as well, like you wouldnt go any direction on a roundabout from a left lane if the road markings said left turns only, and I would be indicating to turn right even if I rode around on the left, not that I’d ever do that as I think that’s a flippin dangerous way to use a roundabout, but I accept the HC states you can, but it doesnt say I can ride any direction I like from any lane I want and not offer some clue as to my intended direction of travel to following vehicles.
Plus I was always taught to control speed via the engine by using higher gears and lower revs, infact you had to be mindful on your test as the instructors car was happy doing 30-40mph in 3rd,it was a diesel, but the examiner would mark you down for not changing up to 4th. I know the ABD advise the low gear thing instead. But the answer they provide then talks about slowing down and going down hills, where was that bit in the question? as of course you change down gears to go down hills and slow down but you didnt ask that.
I assumed on the roundabout
I assumed on the roundabout one it was a reference to rule 187.
I think they are after more general answers so a recognition that it could be left, straight on or right.
I got confused with the one you are preparing to turn right what do you do for following vehicles. I dunno – how wide is the road, how many lanes, is there a central bit to facilitate right turns? MSM is the general idea !
Awavey wrote:
The highway code is quite explicit on this (rule 187) I’m not sure if it goes as far as directing cyclists to stay left and use the outer lane of the roundabout, but there are certainly roundabouts with a conveniently painted
left hookcycle lane around the entire perimeter. Rule 77 is quite unclear whether staying left around the entire roundabout is an alternative to walking on the verge (yes really) or an alternative to using the correct lanes as drivers would.Essentially some cyclists may not be confident/assertive enough to occupy the right hand lane, or right hand side of the lane on approach to a roundabout. Do not assume they will be turning left and that you will be OK to take the 1st exit beside them.
Absolutely, there are even
Absolutely, there are even some of these pop up temporary lanes with bollards covering the left lane on roundabouts, quite how you navigate those safely is another debate.
But it’s quite clear in rule 187 the HC expects you to still signal right,even from the left lane position, as it would expect you to do so if you wanted to go left, whilst still obeying road signs, a left turn only lane I think would overrule your ability to use it to turn right regardless of 187.
And so the cyclists in this question cant literally go any direction they want, theyd still be expected by the HC to provide some signal to following road users on what they want to do, and youd think a test on the HC would make that clearer.
I just think its an example of several badly worded question/answers, that you get the right answer because you kind of know the area it’s trying to cover off, but misses most of the real context,
Some motorists might pick the answer because well bloody cyclists go where they like dont they, not because they realise a cyclist could actually take any roundabout exit from a left lane position.
Awavey wrote:
But it might also be testing Rule 185, which makes clear you shouldn’t assume other road users are signalling correctly (or at all) on roundabouts. Yes, they should generally be indicating, but makes sense for the HC to build in a general caution that other people may not be doing what they should. I can think of roundabouts where I signal when I can, but it’s often safer to cover the brakes for fear of a SMIDSY.
AidanR wrote:
I have driven in the UK on visits, but live in the US and have never held a UK licence. I got an 80% (40/50.)
I got 100% on the majority of the sections, but missed questions about specifics like the colours of reflectors and the shapes of signs.
I’ve never had a crash or speeding ticket in the UK, but I did get one for entering a bus/local traffic only zone in Bath. It’s very counterintuitive to American drivers that a red circle around a car, without a stroke, means that cars are not allowed. Learning experience.
I’m actually a little
I’m actually a little dissapointed that I only got 46. Got the roundabout sign wrong (apparently not a MINI roundabout) and a few others that I was a little unsure of the answer anyway.
That was a failure on mine as
That was a failure on mine as well. The other one I spotted before foolishly clicking away was the dodgy wording one on turning left of a main road. Stay left of the centre of the road was badly worded to me. I know I got the essential Documents one wrong as well. So not sure what my last failure was but from other answers I’m guessing it is the parking light one.
Dicklexic wrote:
47 out of 50 for me, got this one wrong as well, along with the one about where to position your vehicle when turning left and one about how to control your vehicles speed with the engine (think this one was poorly worded).
I also flunked the left turn
I also flunked the left turn one. Not sure how moving left of centre makes my intention to turn any clearer than the fact I’m indicating left and braking! If anything this positioning just makes for a tighter turn and an increased risk of clipping the kerb. Maybe the question envisages a bigger main road than I was picturing.
quiff wrote:
I got that one wrong too – I was thinking that you get a better view around the corner if you’re left of centre. I got the roundabout sign one wrong (I guessed it was a mini roundabout) as I thought that a mini-roundabout needs more of a warning sign than a full roundabout (they’re usually very visible and come with traffic lights anyway).
I’d love to see the risk
I’d love to see the risk assessment for putting a black bollard on black tarmac in a cycle lane. If, sorry, when, someone hits that and is injured and sues the council, I’m pretty sure it’ll either be gone, or lit up like a christmas tree.
To be honest, whoever conceived, signed off and installed that bollard needs remedial training as they are woefully incompetent.
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I don’t see this as newsworthy. As long as the rates were reasonable, and the goods and services delivered as agreed, what’s the problem? I’d consider it a bigger issue if the cyclist refused to pay…..
It might be an issue with the
It might be an issue with the quality of the service? That bear should learn it costs nothing to greet the paying customer with a smile, however it’s feeling inside.
I can’t stand being upsold
I can’t stand being upsold and overcharged – just sell me the bear product already. I’m not made of money
the bear didn’t accept
the bear didn’t accept contactless
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“The fact is that most cyclists are fast and quiet, and when you’re quick and quiet, that’s a potential for a disaster, for running into bears,” said Nick de Ruyter, WildSmart’s program director. “You don’t want to surprise wildlife, particularly bears, and by doing these things like making noise, you’re not necessarily preventing those encounters, but you’re reducing the chance of surprising a bear.”
Uncanny. Could have been written by the same person. 🙂
no need for the outdoorswoman
no need for the outdoorswoman to wear bells. ?
In other news, 12 new KOMs
In other news, 12 new KOMs set at Buller Pond, Alberta ….
I can never get on with those
I can never get on with those hazard tests. I scored 0 for clip 3 as I had 9 hazards which no doubt exceeded the max and I could not find the ‘answers’ either.
Yep, I failed video 1 for
Yep, I failed video 1 for identifying too many potential hazards – when I re-read the rubric, there’s only one intentional hazard per video! I also only scored 4 in the others because I was trying to click where the hazard was actually located in the video, when in fact you can click anywhere.
quiff wrote:
I might have scored 48 out of 50 in the mock theory, but I wish I’d read the fecking instructions on the hazard perception ..
But since when has flowing water over a road, plus narrow hump-backed bridges NOT been a hazard?
I think you get pinged for
I think you get pinged for too many close together. Presumably you lift off the accelerator for some of the signs ?
I’d love to know the answers for that one.
quiff wrote:
Only one hazard per video? Bizarre. I saw about three per video! I only passed video 2, but I couldn’t work out why i’d passed or failed or what hazards I had failed to notice. Some explanation would have been good. OTOH I got 49 out of 50 on the theory test, but that’s just rules (as well as being something I’ve done in real life).
If you read the rubric
If you read the rubric properly (which I didn’t!) they’re looking for one “developing hazard” in each video. They were, respectively: (1) the tractor (2) the milk float and (3) the van joining from a layby. When you get your results, you can review the clips. The red flags along the bottom show every hazard I clicked. The 5,4,3,2,1 shows you where the developing hazard was visible in the video, with 5 points for spotting it early, 1 if you saw it at the last minute.
Although you could see the
Although you could see the tractor then the tractor sign well before the tractor pulled out round the bend !
Then there is the narrow road under the bridge at the end. I guess ‘test your brakes’ is also very optional !
No wonder there are close passes and accidents if this is the standard for new drivers.
Yeah, I think one of my red
Yeah, I think one of my red flags before the 5 point mark starts is when the tractor first became visible through the hedge.
I look forward to hearing the
I look forward to hearing the news that Victoria Police have charged that cyclist with damaging the paintwork of the poor Merc’s bonnet
TBH, they probably will. All
TBH, they probably will. All the witnesses interviewed seemed to be on his side.
Is it just me that feels 7
Is it just me that feels 7 News did everything they could to place as little blame as possible on the driver in that altercation? I wonder how many witnesses didn’t get any air time because they were too critical of the driver.
Those bloody cyclists getting him all stressed out like that eh! Nah it must be at least 50% the cyclist’s fault. After all, surely there’s no valid reason why they would feel the need to get so angry at the driver? Ruining his day like that, and probably scratched his car with their bike as he sped off. Bloody cyclists not paying rego!
Yes I am being sarcastic!
“After the initial aggression
“After the initial aggression from the cyclists…”
Yeah, we travel in packs initiating aggression with cars, by using the road, and not just the sliver at the edge they want us to. A group of riders all come up with the lie that the motorist was swerving into them. That point was punctuated by driving over one of them.
Absurd level of prejudice.
7 news did a follow up piece
7 news did a follow up piece interviewing one of the cyclists. His account was the driver close passed the riders, who were in the cycle lane, and when challenged at the next lights drove into one of the cyclists. If that is true then the incident in the clip here may have been a second hit-run given the car is in a parking space, not the road lane.
But I don’t have a lot of sympathy for these cyclists. Escalating aggression with an aggressive motorist isn’t going to end well, and as happened here it’s easy to paint them as the at-fault party. It feeds the online frenzy of hatred that spills over to all cyclists, Lycra wearers or not. Better to hold your tongue, ride with cameras and take the footage to police.
Cycling can be bad at times
Cycling can be bad at times in the U.K. but Australia looks like it’s on a whole new level with even less protections towards cyclists. However, whilst I appreciate it’s not easy in the midst of an altercation, never ever leave your bike directly in front of the car as it’s all kicking off. Hopefully that guy has more than one steed because if not he might be waiting a long time to ride again with the global supply chain shortages.
sensei wrote:
In Australia, drivers (and some cyclists) self report viewing cyclists as less than human!
https://phys.org/news/2019-03-offcyclists-human-drivers.html
Small sample size, but worrying for Oz cyclists non the less.
Bishop0151 wrote:
I saw this and various motorists have said this in the U.K. From the videos, threads, etc I’ve seen Australia is one of very few countries in the world that have a more toxic anti-cycling culture.
The majority of the anti-cyclist keyboard warriors here wouldn’t dare put their words into practice in real life as they’re little bitch-like cowards looking for any easy way to raise their pitiful levels of self esteem, cyclists are one of the few remaining groups that are still fair game to many. However, in Australia you see frequent video clips of motorists fully intending to use their vehicle as a weapon against a cyclist, rather than here often by incompetence, ignorance or negligence.
N=1 but having lived in the
N=1 but having lived in the Northern Beaches of Sydney and commuted in to the city most days I found riding felt much safer than the UK.
The roads are wider straighter having rideable shoulders and there are traffic police (I was random breath tests 5 times in 2 years Vs none in 15 years of driving in the UK).
lostshrimp wrote:
I will concede to your experience as I have not lived in Aus, though the video clips you frequently see regarding Aus road rage attacks on cyclists seems more severe, but the design of the roads will inevitably play a part. Space is a premium in the U.K. and I think this only serves to frustrate motorists here.