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Raised crossing on cycle lane, Vancouver Island (Philip Marciniak)
Raised crossing on cycle lane, Vancouver Island (Philip Marciniak) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Raised pedestrian crossing installed on bike lane to “slow fast-moving cyclists” – but not on adjacent “deadly” road; How not to run a bike race: Italian pro stage race cancelled just hours before start – by Zoom; Car Free Day + more on the live blog

It’s Friday, finally, and Ryan Mallon is here to ease you into the weekend with more cycling news, views, and no internet problems (fingers crossed) on the live blog
  • by Ryan Mallon
Fri, Sep 22, 2023 08:57
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SUMMARY

  • Cycling’s Original Bad Gateway
  • Annnnnddddd…. We’re back!
  • Council warned about danger of drivers ‘dooring’ cyclists before installing “accident waiting to happen” contraflow cycle lane
  • Cycling UK encourages everyone to celebrate Car Free Day – by trying out a “game changing” e-bike
  • UCI asks Swiss cycling federation why concussed Küng was allowed to continue after horror fall during European time trial championships
  • “If you can’t wait five seconds and endanger me and my six-year-old, you are not fit to drive, let alone professionally”
  • How not to run a bike race: Italian pro stage race cancelled just hours before start – by Zoom
  • “We have to look at ourselves in the mirror, are we doing everything right?” Jumbo-Visma boss opens says last month’s doping positive was a “black day” for the team
  • Is the new Pinarello Dogma X the mullet of the bike world?
  • We made it!
  • “Everything that is wrong with car-centric road design in one photo”
  • “It’s the same old ‘bikes are a menace’, while ignoring the deadly cars right next door”: Raised pedestrian crossing installed on bike lane to “slow fast-moving cyclists” – but not on adjacent “deadly” road used by lorry drivers
Raised crossing on cycle lane, Vancouver Island (Philip Marciniak)
Raised crossing on cycle lane, Vancouver Island (Philip Marciniak) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
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22 September 2023, 08:57

Cycling’s Original Bad Gateway

As you may have noticed, things are going a bit haywire on road.cc at the moment (hell, even this blog post didn’t work for ages), so please bear with us…

Bad Gateway (HoarseMann)
Bad Gateway (HoarseMann) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Bad Gateway (HoarseMann)
Bad Gateway (HoarseMann) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Fair play to road.cc reader HoarseMann though for brightening up my morning, and preventing me from throwing my computer out the window, with this pictorially accurate representation of the site over the last day or so.

Hopefully we’ll get everything back running nicely soon, so stick with us, it’s almost the weekend. And, deep breath…

22 September 2023, 08:57

Annnnnddddd…. We’re back!

Until the next time the site crashes, of course. But until then, let’s get back to the Friday live blogging, shall we?

LBL 2020 photo finish
LBL 2020 photo finish (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
LBL 2020 photo finish
LBL 2020 photo finish (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Exclusive images from road.cc’s behind the scenes team this morning, over and over again… 

22 September 2023, 08:57

Council warned about danger of drivers ‘dooring’ cyclists before installing “accident waiting to happen” contraflow cycle lane

More from everyone’s favourite expertly designed and completely safe bike lane in Altrincham…

Market Street, Altrincham (Altrincham Today)
Market Street, Altrincham (Altrincham Today) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Market Street, Altrincham (Altrincham Today)
Market Street, Altrincham (Altrincham Today) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

> Council warned about danger of drivers ‘dooring’ cyclists before installing “accident waiting to happen” contraflow cycle lane 

22 September 2023, 08:57

Cycling UK encourages everyone to celebrate Car Free Day – by trying out a “game changing” e-bike

Happy Car Free Day! (Maybe that’s why the site’s been crashing all day, it’s those sneaky motorists trying to sabotage the festivities…)

Anyway, and in news that will no doubt please my colleagues over at ebiketips, Cycling UK is urging people across the UK to mark the occasion by trying out an e-bike, which they say will be a “game changer” when it comes to making the swap from driving to cycling for shorter journeys.

According to the National Travel Survey, 67 percent of trips between one and five miles in England were driven, with more than half of those trips made for a combination of shopping and leisure.

Cycling UK reckons cycling would instead provide an “ideal” healthy and environmentally friendly, and cost-saving alternative to driving these short distances – and that e-bikes could prove the key to encouraging people reticent to take up cycling to make the switch to two wheels.

> Best electric bikes 2023 — from e-road bikes to commuters, e-cargo bikes and beyond

“E-cycles have the potential to transform how we travel short distances. They’re a game changer – they literally make cycling easier with every pedal stroke breaking down some of the barriers to cycling to work, like hills, fitness or time!” says Jenny Box, Cycling UK’s deputy director for the terribly punny Making Cycling E-asier scheme, a free initiative run by the charity in Manchester, Sheffield, Leicester, and Luton and Dunstable, where budding e-cyclists can access skills and confidence sessions, as well as free one-month e-bike loans.

Box continues: “This Car Free day, which is about giving people choices for other ways to travel, I’d urge everyone to give an e-bike a go, and see where it takes them. You’ll soon see how much you can save, how it can help get you fitter and cut your emissions – all while having fun.”

22 September 2023, 08:57

UCI asks Swiss cycling federation why concussed Küng was allowed to continue after horror fall during European time trial championships

The fall out from Stefan Küng’s horrific crash into the barriers during Wednesday’s European time trial championships continues, as reports from Denmark today suggest that the UCI are looking into the circumstances which led to the Swiss rider being permitted to get back on his bike and ride to the finish, despite sustaining clearly serious injuries.

Küng suffered a broken hand, cracked cheekbone, and minor concussion towards the end of his time trial in Emmen, but continued on to the finish, where he was finally examined by a medical team and taken to hospital.

Stefan Kung crash at 2023 European time trial championships (GCN)
Stefan Kung crash at 2023 European time trial championships (GCN) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Stefan Kung crash at 2023 European time trial championships (GCN)
Stefan Kung crash at 2023 European time trial championships (GCN) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

> Former UCI chief calls for crackdown on “crazy” head-down time trialling after Stefan Küng’s bizarre crash straight into barriers at European Championships

The sight of the Swiss time triallist, bloodied, battered, and clearly dazed, sporting a badly cracked helmet, as he rode on after his crash has spawned days of online discourse on why Küng was allowed to continue in the first place, cycling’s attitudes towards concussion, and the sport’s tendency to mythologise acts of potential self-harm often dressed up as ‘bravery’ and ‘toughness’.

And now the UCI, according to Ekstra Bladet, has contacted Swiss Cycling to confirm that the governing body’s concussion protocol, introduced in late 2020 after a spate of worrying head injuries, was carried out in the immediate aftermath of their rider’s horrendous-looking, helmet-destroying fall.

The Danish newspaper also says that if the correct concussion protocol was not carried out for whatever reason, and that Küng was allowed to continue without a proper check, there may be consequences for the national federation.

22 September 2023, 08:57

“If you can’t wait five seconds and endanger me and my six-year-old, you are not fit to drive, let alone professionally”

Ah, a live blog favourite (if you can call it that)… Impatient motorists driving where they shouldn’t – in this case, a School Street – and shouting at children on bikes holding them up:

Van trying to close pass cyclist (Twitter)
Van trying to close pass cyclist (Twitter) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Van trying to close pass cyclist (Twitter)
Van trying to close pass cyclist (Twitter) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

> “He’s going to school”: Impatient van driver honks and swears at cyclist and his son on a School Street closed off to motor vehicles

Other classics of this rather unedifying genre include:

> “You couldn’t make it up”: Driver – in untaxed, SORN-registered car with expired MOT – mounts pavement on wrong side of the road… then chastises six-year-old for cycling on same footpath

> Viral video déjà vu as taxi driver doesn’t wait for child cycling near school

And of course, the viral bad driving video debate to end them all…

Viral video debated on Jeremy Vine show (screenshot Twitter video/ @azb2019)
@azb2019) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Viral video debated on Jeremy Vine show (screenshot Twitter video/ @azb2019)
@azb2019) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

> Viral video of driver refusing to stop for five-year-old cyclist debated on Jeremy Vine’s Channel 5 show

> Sajid Javid blames father of five-year-old cyclist for letting child ride on road in viral video

> “Should not be on the public highway riding a bike”: Conservative politician weighs in on viral clip of driver refusing to stop for child

Ah, that was a ‘fun’ November…

22 September 2023, 08:57

How not to run a bike race: Italian pro stage race cancelled just hours before start – by Zoom

The stresses and strains of organising a professional bike race have been well documented on this site over the past year or so, particularly in the wake of the economic uncertainty and crises currently whittling away at the British racing scene.

However, I’m sure the organisers of the Women’s Tour will be at least happy to have avoided the organisational chaos and carnage witnessed at the Adriatica Ionica stage race in Italy this week, which was cancelled last night – just 16 hours before the riders were due to set off from Corropoli for the first stage.

And, to add insult to injury, as the teams and journalists (including one poor soul from Australia), gathered in the Teramo province of eastern Italy, the race’s organiser, former world champion Moreno Argentin, broke the news that the three-day event had been cancelled – via a Zoom call.

According to Italian cycling site BiciPro, the 2.1 (third-tier) stage race – which was first held in 2018 and boasts winners such as Iván Sosa, Filippo Zana, and Lorenzo Fortunato, as well as providing a platform for future stars such as Giulio Ciccone – has been beset by issues such as the failure to agree TV rights and policing permits for road closures, while disputes with the Italian cycling federation and the UCI led to the organisers approaching the eve of the race with no jury.

However, with no official word from the organisers, 12 of the 16 teams set to take part in the race, including the Mark Donovan-led Q36.5 squad and Alexey Lutsenko’s Astana, rocked up to Corropoli yesterday, along with a smattering of journalists, a timing system, and a few no-parking signs for the team vehicles.

🚴‍♂️ We’re all set for the Adriatica Ionica Race tomorrow. 🇮🇹

Meet our #SquadOnAMission:
🇮🇹 Alessandro Fedeli 🇪🇸 @marcelcampru
🇬🇧 @markdon99 🇳🇴 @CFHagen 🇮🇹 Rafaelle Mosca and 🇺🇸 @joeyrosskopf

Presented by @breitling #RacingTheFuture
📌 Follow us at @race_ai pic.twitter.com/oU5tT7fPIv

— Q36.5 Pro Cycling Team (@Q36_5ProCycling) September 21, 2023

However, everything else – the commissaires, sponsors, speakers, race radio, even most of the organisers – were missing, prompting the small town’s red-faced mayor to cancel a party he had planned for that evening after the team presentation.

“We couldn’t not come, based on an unofficial phone call from a member of the [Italian Cycling League] yesterday afternoon. It does not work like that,” Eolo-Kometa DS Stefano Zanatta said yesterday.

“We were waiting for an official communication and the only one we read was this morning, in which the organisation reserved the right to resolve the doubts by 4pm. We therefore showed up as normal.”

At 4.15pm, classics legend Argentin appeared, via video call, to inform the teams that he was working to plug the financial gaps and find the officials to keep the whole show on the road.

But then, just half an hour after Argentin’s Zoom call, the team directors were given the message: “Go home”, leading to a night of chaos, cancellations, and last-minute travel arrangements. The Italian then officially confirmed that the race would not go ahead last night.

Well, finally the decision has been made that the race is cancelled. No Adriatica Ionica Race in 2023. 🤷🏻‍♂️ https://t.co/2tAJU4iR8o

— Astana Qazaqstan Team (@AstanaQazTeam) September 21, 2023

And let’s just say the teams aren’t too happy.

At 9.30pm last night, Astana tweeted, with an exasperated emoji to boot, “Well, finally the decision has been made that the race is cancelled. No Adriatica Ionica Race in 2023.”

Meanwhile, Q36.5, who had tweeted that they were “all set” for the race while Argentin’s Zoom call was taking place, posted this morning: “Sadly, in an unforeseen turn of events, the 2023 Adriatica Ionica Race will not take place. Our next competitive outing will, therefore, be Cro Race.”

I can sense this rumbling on for a while to come…

22 September 2023, 08:57

“We have to look at ourselves in the mirror, are we doing everything right?” Jumbo-Visma boss opens says last month’s doping positive was a “black day” for the team

Jumbo-Visma boss Richard Plugge has said that German rider Michel Hessmann’s positive doping test during the summer was a “black day” for the Dutch team, which forced them to “look in the mirror ourselves” and ask “are we doing everything right?”

Last month, Jumbo-Visma announced that Hessmann had been suspended by the team after returning an out-of-competition positive test for a banned diuretic.

German authorities have since opened a criminal investigation into the 22-year-old – who supported Primož Roglič during the Slovenian’s successful attempt to win the Giro d’Italia in May – and conducted a raid on his home.

Hessmann faces a ban of up to four years under the WADA code if he can’t prove he unknowingly ingested the as-yet unidentified substance through a contaminated supplement.

Michel Hessmann 2023 Giro d'Italia (Zac Williams/SWpix.com)
SWpix (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Michel Hessmann 2023 Giro d'Italia (Zac Williams/SWpix.com)
SWpix (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Hessmann during the 2023 Giro (Zac Williams/SWpix.com)

The German’s positive test compounded a summer of suspicion and innuendo around Jumbo-Visma due to the dominance exerted by their riders at the three grand tours.

At the Vuelta a España, which saw the team complete a clean sweep of cycling’s three-week races this year following Roglič’s Giro win and Jonas Vingegaard’s second consecutive Tour triumph, Sepp Kuss – who took the spoils in Spain – told reporters that “cheating or doping is just out of the question”, while Vingegaard said he was “100 per cent sure that my two colleagues are not taking anything as well as myself”, a claim that was called into question in the wake of Hessmann’s positive test.

> Sepp Kuss says “cheating or doping is out of the question”, as Jonas Vingegaard insists Jumbo-Visma teammates are “not taking anything”

In his latest column for Wielerflits’ Ride magazine, Jumbo-Visma team manager Plugge outlined the team’s doping stance and went into more detail surrounding the news of Hessmann’s positive test.

“Wednesday, August 16, 2023 was a black day for our team. For the first time in ten years, we received the message that a rider from our team, Michel Hessmann, had a positive doping test,” Plugge wrote.

“It remains an open topic of discussion and the riders also keep each other on their toes. Unfortunately, it went wrong and then a lot came our way. We had to look in the mirror ourselves, are we doing everything right?

“Everyone involved in and with our organisation must be aware of everything. Germany has a doping law, so the public prosecutor’s office is automatically involved. Criminal law has the presumption of innocence, while disciplinary law reasons the other way around. It is up to the athlete to prove that he has done nothing wrong.”

Sepp Kuss, Jonas Vingegaard, and Primož Roglič cross the line together on stage 20 of the 2023 Vuelta a España (Rafa Gomez/SprintCyclingAgency)
SprintCyclingAgency) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Sepp Kuss, Jonas Vingegaard, and Primož Roglič cross the line together on stage 20 of the 2023 Vuelta a España (Rafa Gomez/SprintCyclingAgency)
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(Rafa Gomez/SprintCyclingAgency)

Plugge took over what was then the Rabobank team in 2012 after years of doping scandals, with the aim of wiping the slate clean and to start afresh, an approach epitomised by the team’s ‘Blanco’ moniker while in between sponsorship deals. “We started as Blanco to give cycling back to the fans,” the 52-year-old said after Vingegaard’s first Tour triumph last year.

> Racing against shadows: Jonas Vingegaard, Jumbo-Visma, and cycling’s eternal questions

In his column, Plugge outlined the lengths to which his team go to avoid contaminated supplements, before concluding by asserting his belief in “clean” sport.

“If the test is carried out properly, there are two possibilities, either it is conscious, or it is contamination from a supplement or other medicine,” he wrote. “It is mandatory within our team to only use supplements and medicines that have been batch checked for doping substances, to minimise the risk of contamination. Many products contain remnants of other products.

“In short, an athlete cannot simply take a supplement, drug, or energy drink without knowing whether it has been tested beforehand. There can be a (in or out-of-competition) doping control 365 days a year, the athlete must be sharp every day.

“That is part of cycling policy. Riders (the multiple winners or leader jersey wearers) are checked between thirty and 150 times per year.

“That is good and should remain that way. We stand for fair sport in which talents cross swords on equal grounds. So that in cycling we only have clean days.”

> Jumbo-Visma clean up at the Vuelta – Are they the most dominant cycling team of all time?

22 September 2023, 08:57

Is the new Pinarello Dogma X the mullet of the bike world?

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2023 Pinarello Dogma X new seat stay (Image Credit: Pinarello)
2023 Pinarello Dogma X new seat stay
2023 Pinarello Dogma X new seat stay (Image Credit: Pinarello)

> Dogma at the front, party at the back: Pinarello unveils Dogma X endurance bike with funky new seat stay technology

At 13 grand, it costs a lot more than a dodgy haircut, I’ll give you that…

22 September 2023, 08:57

We made it!

Alberto Bettiol, 2023 world road race championships (Ryan Mallon)
Alberto Bettiol, 2023 world road race championships (Ryan Mallon) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Alberto Bettiol, 2023 world road race championships (Ryan Mallon)
Alberto Bettiol, 2023 world road race championships (Ryan Mallon) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

It’s been a long week of dodgy cycle lanes, dodgier policy U-turns, endless crash discourse, and lots of website malfunctions, but we all made it to the finish…

Have a good weekend everyone! Now, where’s that darkened room?

22 September 2023, 08:57

“Everything that is wrong with car-centric road design in one photo”

Everything that is wrong with car centric road design in one photo

Absolutely astonishing https://t.co/qtL2e6f5Nk

— Harry Gray (@HarryHamishGray) September 22, 2023

It looks like Canada’s latest entry for the ‘Badly thought out infrastructure’ awards has sparked plenty of conversation on the interweb this afternoon, with one Twitter/X/whatever user describing the ramp-not a ramp layout of the pedestrian crossing – designed to stop those pesky speeding cyclists – as an example of “peak moto normativity”.

“Having a raised crossing is, I think, good for a walking point of view, but like so often in the UK, we don’t apply the same to the place where users are carrying the most kinetic energy,” wrote The Ranty Highwayman, while Safe Cycling Ireland drew on a classic meme for their appraisal: “Alexa, show me an image of car-blindness”.

“Incredible! Have the designers no idea about momentum of different vehicle classes?” asked Mike.

Meanwhile, cycling activist Harry Gray described the uneven crossing as “Everything that is wrong with car-centric road design in one photo. Absolutely astonishing.”

However, rather inevitably, not everyone was as scathing of the design…

“The problem is the bikes never stop at the pedestrian crossings,” noted Bobette.

Ah, well there was always going to be one…

22 September 2023, 08:57

“It’s the same old ‘bikes are a menace’, while ignoring the deadly cars right next door”: Raised pedestrian crossing installed on bike lane to “slow fast-moving cyclists” – but not on adjacent “deadly” road used by lorry drivers

A local authority in Canada has come in for some scathing criticism from cyclists after it unveiled a brand-new protected bike lane, complete with a number of raised pedestrian crossings – a feature missing on the notably flat crossings located on the busy road beside it.

Philip Marciniak, a cyclist from Saanich, a district and commuter town at the southern tip of Vancouver Island, posted a photo on Twitter of the somewhat unevenly implemented infrastructure, describing the decision to slow cyclists on a pedestrian crossing but not motorists as “strange”.

A lovely fresh protected bike lane in #Saanich along Gorge Rd.

I can’t help but notice how the raised crosswalk ends before car lanes along the entire stretch. Strange as road level crosswalks are notoriously deadly in Saanich.

Perhaps @saanich can enlighten as to why? pic.twitter.com/3or6M26aDg

— Philip (@PhilipMarciniak) September 20, 2023

“A lovely fresh protected bike lane in Saanich along Gorge Rd,” he wrote. “I can’t help but notice how the raised crosswalk ends before car lanes along the entire stretch. Strange as road level crosswalks are notoriously deadly in Saanich.

“In a summer where another Saanich resident was killed in a street level crosswalk, and a year where ‘vision zero’ was endorsed by council, I can’t wrap my head around why deadly street level crosswalks are still being built in Saanich, despite the repeated avoidable tragedies.

“In the case for new sections of Gorge Rd, it’s particularly jarring to see the cycle path crossing rightfully raised, meanwhile the road crossing (proven deadly) left at road level.

“Raised crosswalks should be standard in Saanich if vision zero is being taken seriously no?”

The District of Saanich did respond to Phil’s concerns – though it’s safe to say that their reasoning didn’t go down too well with local cyclists.

The decision was made to not install raised crosswalks along Gorge as it is both a major truck route and transit route. Raised crossings were installed at the bike lanes to slow fast-moving cyclists and maintain access to the bus stops for persons with limited mobility.

— District of Saanich (@saanich) September 20, 2023

“The decision was made to not install raised crosswalks along Gorge as it is both a major truck route and transit route,” the local authority said.

“Raised crossings were installed at the bike lanes to slow fast-moving cyclists and maintain access to the bus stops for persons with limited mobility.”

“In my mind those are both reasons for raised crosswalks,” replied Marciniak. “Raised at least to some degree, doesn’t need to be extremely steep but the driver being reminded every time that this is a crosswalk is valuable I think.”

The design decision was also criticised by other cyclists, with one branding the layout “beyond parody”.

“It’s the same old ‘bikes are a menace, we need raised crossings to force them to slow down’, while ignoring the deadly cars right next door,” wrote one Twitter user.

“Why does someone die crossing the road every year in Saanich?” asked Mauricio Curbelo. “Saanich: ‘Well, you see, we design crosswalks to slow down fast-moving bicycles, but not fast-moving trucks and buses!’

“Once again proving pedestrian deaths aren’t accidents, they are design choices.”

Can we get details on the persons behind this decision that fast moving cyclists were ‘a concern’, but fast moving trucks were not?

Would it be possible to get detailed statements on why pedestrians need additional protections from bikes, but not trucks?

— A.Tabor (@RealLuckless) September 20, 2023

Meanwhile, Peter Spindloe said: “How in the world are you more concerned about fast moving cyclists than trucks and cars. The last three pedestrian collisions, including two fatalities, in Saanich crosswalks have been caused by cars and trucks.”

“This is ridiculous,” added Jen Stewart, “And the reasoning doesn’t stand up to the barest moment of scrutiny.

“You’ve built what otherwise looks like a beautiful active transportation route, but left pedestrians exposed to multi-tonne vehicles traveling faster than any cyclist.”

A Saanich councillor, Teale Phelps Bondaroff, has responded to the complaints by saying that he will investigate the matter with district staff.

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After obtaining a PhD, lecturing, and hosting a history podcast at Queen’s University Belfast, Ryan joined road.cc in December 2021 and since then has kept the site’s readers and listeners informed and enthralled (well at least occasionally) on news, the live blog, and the road.cc Podcast. After boarding a wrong bus at the world championships and ruining a good pair of jeans at the cyclocross, he now serves as road.cc’s news editor. Before his foray into cycling journalism, he wallowed in the equally pitiless world of academia, where he wrote a book about Victorian politics and droned on about cycling and bikes to classes of bored students (while taking every chance he could get to talk about cycling in print or on the radio). He can be found riding his bike very slowly around the narrow, scenic country lanes of Co. Down.  

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  1. Hirsute
    September 22, 2023 at 1:06 pm
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    That was a first – a driver

    That was a first – a driver spat in my face after I confronted him about his driving.

    At the lights he drove off as fast as possible with no regard for the lady ped crossing a ped crossing just head and beeped aggressively at her. He then had to come to a complete stop for the next set of traffic lights and was fifth in the queue.

    When I asked him what he was playing at and pointed out peds were at the top of the hierarchy, he said something incomprehensible, spat in my face and drove off.

    At least one of the drivers behind slowed to tell me the other driver was a complete nob.

    gob on you cos I hate your guts

    gob on your kick you in the nuts

    got on you cos you’re a stupid old git

    gob on you cos you’re full of shit

    gob gob gob gob hate hate hate hate

     

    (and as I’d just come from a shop, my camera wasn’t switched on and when I did have it on, it didn’t get the footage !)

     

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    • HoarseMann
      September 22, 2023 at 1:48 pm
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      You wouldn’t need camera

      You wouldn’t need camera footage for that. If you have anything with the saliva on, then a DNA swab could be taken. That with the independent witness would probably be enough for an assault charge.

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  2. HoarseMann
    September 22, 2023 at 1:47 pm
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    Excellent display of tenacity

    Excellent display of tenacity from Ryan, still getting the articles out despite the website issues.

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  3. brooksby
    September 22, 2023 at 2:01 pm
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    I’m not sure that the site is

    I’m not sure that the site is as fixed as you think it is…

    My browser seems to be having a lot of trouble waiting for responses from various ad servers, if it helps.

    Even when it seems to be behaving it is taking foreeeeevvveeeer to load a ‘like’ or to respond to a request to quote a post.

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    • David9694
      September 22, 2023 at 3:58 pm
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      I’ve been getting a lot of

      I’ve been getting a lot of crashes and have had quite a few problems lately. I assume we’re overloading the site because drivers are so crap.

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      • NOtotheEU
        September 22, 2023 at 6:29 pm
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        David9694 wrote:

        I assume we’re overloading the site because drivers are so crap.

        — David9694

        I was wondering why it’s so slow in the last couple of days but I think you’ve cracked it!

        On a more positive note, I don’t usually get any feedback on my police reports but last week got an email the next day saying they were going to prosecute and today I submitted a close pass report at 2pm and had an email saying they were trying to identify the driver by 2:45pm. Maybe WMP claims to be taking dangerous driving seriously are true (I’m not holding my breath!).

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        • HoldingOn
          September 22, 2023 at 6:54 pm
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          Maybe if they got rid of all

          Maybe if they got rid of all the cycle lanes, the internets could get to my house faster….

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          • mark1a
            September 22, 2023 at 8:09 pm
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            Maybe road.cc are trying to

            Maybe road.cc are trying to turn the site into a LTN – Low Traffic Network. 

          • David9694
            September 22, 2023 at 9:25 pm
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            One more LAN will fix it. 

            One more LAN will fix it. 

  4. Hirsute
    September 22, 2023 at 5:03 pm
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    Having a really shit day but

    Having a really shit day but this made me laugh so much, it brought tears

    (colin is the epitome of the DM reader)

    7 bins. SCRAPPED ❌
    Meat tax. SCRAPPED❌
    A windfarm in every bedroom. SCRAPPED❌
    Folding up second homes when you're not using them. SCRAPPED ❌

    Every policy that Rishi Sunak scrapped, as told by Colin from Portsmouth. pic.twitter.com/B7TRIYnyjr

    — The Exploding Heads (@Exploding_Heads) September 22, 2023

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    • eburtthebike
      September 22, 2023 at 6:00 pm
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      Thank you: hysterical.

      Thank you: hysterical.

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    • Rome73
      September 23, 2023 at 6:55 am
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      ‘Greek Orthodox Dimmer

      ‘Greek Orthodox Dimmer switches’. Scrapped. Thank gawd for that. 

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  5. eburtthebike
    September 23, 2023 at 7:44 am
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    “It’s the same old ‘bikes are

    “It’s the same old ‘bikes are a menace’, while ignoring the deadly cars right next door”

    Merely putting into practice the common philosophy of “Cars are important, bicycles aren’t.”

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    • speculatrix
      September 24, 2023 at 12:01 pm
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      Why would the bicycles not be
      Why would the bicycles not be riding in the bike lane?

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      • hawkinspeter
        September 24, 2023 at 12:53 pm
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        speculatrix wrote:

        Why would the bicycles not be riding in the bike lane?

        — speculatrix

        There can be a number of reasons, but the most common one is that the bike lane is poorly designed and worse than just using the road.

        There’s a whole bunch of lanes that don’t end properly and dump you out into traffic at the worst point, so it’s better to just use the road and then at least you’re part of the traffic and not attempting to maneouvre into it at a pinch point.

        There’s also the lanes that take a detour and make you cross multiple lanes of traffic to get where you want, so it’s safer to just follow the lines of traffic.

        Here in Bristol, we’ve got a bunch of cycle lanes near Temple Meads station that are “joined up” by pedestrian crossings with beg buttons, so the same journey can take about 45 seconds if you use the road or about 5 minutes if you try to use the bike lanes.

        Another common issue is if they’re not kept clear of broken glass and/or slippery wet, decomposing leaves. That’s often made worse when road sweeping pushes all the crap into the bike lane at the edge of the road.

        Also, vehicles parking in bike lanes often makes them unusable.

        There’s an examination of the issues here: https://road.cc/content/feature/why-dont-cyclists-use-cycle-lanes-267164

        A good rule of thumb to use when seeing a cyclist not using a bike lane is to assume that the bike lane is not fit for purpose, whereas some motorists assume that the cyclist doesn’t know how to cycle and needs the driver to give them their much more informed opinion on why they should be using the bike lane.

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      • Sriracha
        September 24, 2023 at 12:59 pm
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        speculatrix wrote:

        Why would the bicycles not be riding in the bike lane?

        — speculatrix

        Possibly because there is a mountain in the middle of it?

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cw91 4 minutes ago

Or just buy direct from Waltly & save a few quid!!

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wtjs 5 minutes ago

We regularly hear of a traffic police officer giving confident opinions in court cases regarding such things as 'speed at the time of collision', and their opinions seem to be taken seriously. We also know of a police officer's opinion, when being told by a dying man that he has been stabbed, saying 'I don't think you have, mate'. Why are people still surprised that stupid, ill-educated but very self-confident police officers are as thick as two short planks, as well as being criminal (think Couzens, Carrick and many of the officers at Charing Cross Police Station) and/ or as bent as a £9 note- this method of assessing whether a bike is a legal EAPC is so stupid as to beyond belief, unless you have personal experience of the UK police, that is. Many of them really are malevolent, cyclist-hostile thick, out-of-control b******s

in: Police seize and destroy delivery cyclist’s legal e-bike hired through council-funded scheme after “bogus” test – but officers claim rider didn’t have insurance
jackcycles 6 minutes ago

@Rendel Harris my "lived experience" is of delivery drivers riding around on illegal modified motorbikes. In fact, I don't think I've ever seen anyone riding around with a silly blue delivery bag riding a road-legal bike, let alone having insurance. I don't see any evidence in the article to support the idea that the seized bike was unmodified and road legal. These e-motorbikes are a menace to the road. Just yesterday I went to my local bike shop and the poor owner nearly killed himself when some fat bloke riding what can only be described as a motorbike drove to the door asking for help with his brakes. Bike shop owner went to have a look and inadvertently turned a throttle, causing the machine to roar into life and drag him along the pavement in an undignified manner.

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RTB 20 minutes ago

There wouldn't have been a peloton in that era (aside from Christophe Bassons) if they had instigated night-time testing.

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ChrisA 1 hour ago

The article states that: "The term E-bike refers to an electrically assisted pedal cycle (EAPC)" YES & NO. It can refer to any electrically powered cycle or motorbike. That would include EAPCs. An "E-bike" is not a legally defined thing.

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Pub bike 1 hour ago

It occurred to me that this could be fitted to an older rim brake bike as well but it would involve for example building a new rear wheel with a disc hub and rim brake rim.

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tomlew 1 hour ago

@Paul J Please show me any reliable evidence. EPO tests already detect levels far below the minimum effective dose. With the recent state of the art, microdosing simply does not make any sense.

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Paul J 2 hours ago

@tomlew microdosing EPO most definitely does "work" in terms of stimulating RBC production.

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GoodWheelHunting 2 hours ago

This is what the media frenzy about the "dangers of e-bikes" led us to. Meanwhile, drivers kill one pedestrian a day in general indifference.

in: Police seize and destroy delivery cyclist’s legal e-bike hired through council-funded scheme after “bogus” test – but officers claim rider didn’t have insurance
mitsky 2 hours ago

@rideANDdie 100% agree. It is quite hard to imagine a driver would not understand that directly hitting someone hard with a car/large vehicle could lead to killing them. @Rendel Harris That doesn't apply. ie self-defense or the killer was mentally impaired (which can be shown/tested by the authorities later) The driver was not in danger from the cyclist. And even if the cyclist tried to attack them, the driver could have locked their doors and closed their windows. The worst the cyclist could have done is dent/scratch the car with their bike (maybe partially damage/smash a window), assuming they didn't have a weapon. And the driver, if fearing for their safety, could have driven away.

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