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ANPR protected LTN in LB Ealing
ANPR protected LTN in LB Ealing (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Council ridiculed for encouraging cycling…two weeks after ripping out LTNs; 10/10 kit; Insane urban downhill skills; Uninsured driver caught in cycle lane; Quick-Step tease contract news…it wasn’t Cav; Bike bus trend spreads + more on the live blog

Dan Alexander is here for your Wednesday dose of live blog action
  • by Dan Alexander
Wed, Oct 20, 2021 08:03
94

SUMMARY

  • "Were cycles not on roads before vehicles took over?": Some final reaction to yesterday's social media spat
  • Deceuninck-Quick-Step tease "important news"...spoiler alert: it wasn't Cav's contract announcement
  • Bike bus trend spreads: meet the Bicibús (or should I say El Bicibús)
  • As good as it gets? How's your bike-handling? How are your nerves?
  • 10/10 kit: Nigeria will be the envy of everyone at the UCI Track Cycling World Championships
  • Grand Tour news: Remco will go to the Vuelta + Quintana all in for the Tour
  • Council ridiculed for encouraging cycling...two weeks after ripping out LTNs
  • "All he does is ride a bicycle around the neighbourhood": Meghan Markle's dad slams Prince Harry...about his time in the saddle
  • Uninsured driver caught taking cycle lane shortcut
  • Four-time Ironman world champion Chrissie Wellington goes gravel
  • Nigeria kit or fake cycling infra?
  • Some more reaction to Ealing Council's unwanted advice
ANPR protected LTN in LB Ealing
ANPR protected LTN in LB Ealing (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
20 October 2021, 08:03

"Were cycles not on roads before vehicles took over?": Some final reaction to yesterday's social media spat

Deleted tweet
Deleted tweet (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Deleted tweet
Deleted tweet (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Right, let’s wrap up the final reaction to the drivers vs cyclists social media spat from yesterday…chances are most cyclists here drive as well, a context that’s often lost in a 280 character reply. The tweet that began it all has now been deleted, but spread the message “the amount of cyclists on the road today should be considered a crime.”

It got plenty of educational (and funny) replies, and for whatever reason these sorts of ‘debates’ are popular, so here’s the last of your thoughts and opinions before we move on…

Clive Wallis commented on Facebook: “Three hours waiting for fuel not a problem. Double parking – not a problem. 10 minutes driving round looking for a parking place – that’s okay. Held up for three seconds by a cyclist and I go ballistic !!!!”

Tim Chandler added: “It’s all relative…car drivers don’t give a toss about holding up motorcyclists, but get stroppy when they get held up by the kings of the road on pedal cycles.”

Graham Snook still has the most-liked comment: “They moan about people on bikes on the road, they moan about spending money on a dedicated cycling infrastructure to get people on bikes off the road. They moan if we go too close to their cars and moan if we keep a safe distance away from them. They moan that they want us to obey the traffic laws, but also moan when we ride two abreast. What they want us to be is Schrödinger’s cyclist.”

The blog got enough attention for it to be shared out to the wider non-cycling public, including some of those who enjoy a spot of bingo…

Bubba Junior added some intellect to the conversation…”Not got a problem with push bikes but for the love of god can you wear proper clothing, the bikes was here before cars but the men didn’t ride around in Lycra shorts and tap dancing shoes.”

To be honest, we’re still thinking about this…

Blog reaction
Blog reaction (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Blog reaction
Blog reaction (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

 

20 October 2021, 08:03

Deceuninck-Quick-Step tease "important news"...spoiler alert: it wasn't Cav's contract announcement

Important news coming in just a couple of minutes 😃

— Deceuninck-QuickStep (@deceuninck_qst) October 20, 2021

As a British-based cycling website, when you see Quick-Step tweet something like this it gets you excited for some Cav news…are they about to finally announce his new contract? Nope. No offence, Zdeněk Štybar, it’s not quite the news we were looking for…

A winner of Omloop, Strade Bianche and E3.
A stage winner at Le Tour and La Vuelta.
A two-time National Champion.
One of the team’s longest-serving members.

Happy to announce that @zdenekstybar stays with us in 2022 – his 12th season in the Wolfpack: https://t.co/Z1iD80UG2i pic.twitter.com/huNtwai6vY

— Deceuninck-QuickStep (@deceuninck_qst) October 20, 2021

20 October 2021, 08:03

Bike bus trend spreads: meet the Bicibús (or should I say El Bicibús)

Something special is happening in Barcelona. It started last month when some parents organized a bike ride to school for just five kids. Now entire neighborhoods are joining. They call it Bicibús – or Bike Bus. pic.twitter.com/qIxsQEervG

— Zach Klein (@zachklein) October 18, 2021

We’ve seen a few of these pop up here in the UK and Ireland, but it seems the trend is going international.

20 October 2021, 08:03

As good as it gets? How's your bike-handling? How are your nerves?

¿Tranquila la vista desde Medellín 🇨🇴, no? pic.twitter.com/JECJQlGepK

— The Line Breaker (@thelinebreaker_) October 18, 2021

Every time this video resurfaces it gets those butterflies going. Just watching until the end feels like an accomplishment…

Want eight reasons why your next bike should be a mountain bike? This video may have just made that nine…

And for all the best specialist off-road news, reviews and features check out our sister site off-road.cc…

20 October 2021, 08:03

10/10 kit: Nigeria will be the envy of everyone at the UCI Track Cycling World Championships

🇳🇬🇳🇬 BEST KIT? 🇳🇬 🇳🇬#Roubaix2021 pic.twitter.com/yTaGJEQFGJ

— UCI Track Cycling (@UCI_Track) October 20, 2021

It’s day one of the world champs in Roubaix and the Nigerians may have won the entire thing already. Not because of anything on the track, just for this beauty of a kit…

Here’s your day one schedule. Lots of qualifying (plus some team sprint finals later on)…

Day One Schedule 📄

Follow today’s racing on the UCI Live Race Hub#Roubaix2021

— UCI Track Cycling (@UCI_Track) October 20, 2021

20 October 2021, 08:03

Grand Tour news: Remco will go to the Vuelta + Quintana all in for the Tour

2021 Tour de France Arkea Samsic Quintana Canyon Aeroad - 1
2021 Tour de France Arkea Samsic Quintana Canyon Aeroad - 1 (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
2021 Tour de France Arkea Samsic Quintana Canyon Aeroad - 1
2021 Tour de France Arkea Samsic Quintana Canyon Aeroad – 1 (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

He may not have finished on the podium since 2016 and in the top ten since 2019, but Nairo Quintana says he’s still going all in for the Tour de France next July. The Colombian took a break from dressing as a chameleon on the Masked Singer to speak to EFE…”For me, the Tour is always the race of the year – all of my preparation will be focused on the Tour. We’ll have to talk to the directors and riders, and we’ll study the route, and then we’ll make some decisions about how we will take on the Tour.

“I am a GC rider. Every year I come to the Tour with these ambitions, except 2021, when physical problems wiped them out. The route is good for us. It’s important to arrive in top condition to be able to take it on.”

Elsewhere, Patrick Lefevere has been saying things. Don’t worry, nothing silly. He outlined his team’s plans for Remco Evenepoel next year and said the goal is to get the Belgian back in top shape for the Vuelta a España. Evenepoel struggled at his maiden Grand Tour, this year’s Giro, and Lefevere wants to build him up with week-long stage races before taking the step up to three weeks.

20 October 2021, 08:03

Council ridiculed for encouraging cycling...two weeks after ripping out LTNs

Images that precede heavy criticism:

12 days till #COP26!

Each day, we will be posting an impactful action you can take for the environment.

Over 50% of the journeys taken in the UK are under 2 miles. Why not start small & swap one car journey a week for walking, cycling or public transport 🚶‍♀️🚴🏼🚌🚋#ActForEaling pic.twitter.com/6rGJDnrizl

— EalingCouncil (@EalingCouncil) October 19, 2021

Ealing Council was winding up its residents this morning by suggesting active travel or public transport for journeys of under two miles. The problem? Well, just two weeks ago today they began work removing seven LTNs based on 22,000 responses to a ‘consultation’ many have dubbed a residents’ referendum. 

Cllr Costigan asked locals to believe the council remains committed to active travel, but was listening to (22,000 out of 340,000) local people when deciding to scrap the schemes. It wasn’t the first time the council has ended up in hot water for its handling of an active travel scheme.

Back in May, an LTN trial was removed “during the school run” as parents and children tried to make their way home along the route…

Needless to say, suggesting more walking and cycling didn’t go down well, with many accusing the council of empty words and encouraging, not enabling.

Why not swim across the crocodile-infested river where we recently removed the bridge

— Hannah 🚲 (@theeyecollector) October 20, 2021

Hilarious – @EalingCouncil removes safe cycling routes and LTNs, and then asks us to cycle and walk. Top points for humour, zero points for effective action.

— Karen Liebreich (@kareninagarden) October 19, 2021

Our personal favourite… 

You’re asking people to go for a swim after publicly shitting in the pool

— Kai (@4catsnomore) October 20, 2021

20 October 2021, 08:03

"All he does is ride a bicycle around the neighbourhood": Meghan Markle's dad slams Prince Harry...about his time in the saddle

Thomas Markle (Screenshot GMB/ITV)
ITV) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Thomas Markle (Screenshot GMB/ITV)
ITV) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Time for some tedious celeb news to light up your Wednesday afternoon…the estranged father of Meghan Markle has ripped into Prince Harry during an explosive Good Morning Britain interview. Why? For one, he abandoned the Queen and royal family. But far worse, “All he does now is ride a bicycle around the neighbourhood he lives in. It’s not much of a life for him either, it doesn’t make sense.”

Doesn’t sound too bad to me. Was anything else said worth reporting here? No, not really…

20 October 2021, 08:03

Uninsured driver caught taking cycle lane shortcut

Driver of this vehicle thought his car was a pedal cycle! Traveling at speed, along a dedicated cycle lane, past an unmarked traffic car isn’t the best idea when you don’t have insurance! 🤦‍♂️ Vehicle stopped on Bridgwater Way, driver reported and vehicle seized #165 pic.twitter.com/1XnJ9beY6N

— GMP Traffic (@gmptraffic) October 19, 2021

Another classic of the ‘drivers using cycle lanes’ genre. Jeremy Vine has something of a monopoly on the genre in our archives…

> Jeremy Vine films motorist driving down Hyde Park cycle path

One in Hyde Park and one Uber driver cutting in front of a cyclist to take a shortcut through a segregated cycle lane.

Worse still was the German motorist who filmed himself speeding past a cyclist riding in the road…by driving along the segregated shared-use path. The driver shared the video on Facebook with the caption, “If you use my lane, I’ll use yours.”

Youre Hard David Brent GIFfrom Youre Hard GIFs

20 October 2021, 08:03

Four-time Ironman world champion Chrissie Wellington goes gravel

I’m not sure I could look any happier! I am beyond grateful to the awesome team at @NorthRoadCycles for creating this custom built & painted two wheeling thing of absolute beauty. Let the gravelly off road adventures begin! #gravelbike #cycling #adventures pic.twitter.com/BRwAWdgRj8

— Chrissie Wellington (@chrissiesmiles) October 20, 2021

20 October 2021, 08:03

Nigeria kit or fake cycling infra?

Nigeria kit meme (chrisonatrike)
Nigeria kit meme (chrisonatrike) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Nigeria kit meme (chrisonatrike)
Nigeria kit meme (chrisonatrike) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Chrisonatrike in the comments feels like he’s seen that Nigeria kit before…brooksby reckons it’s more like the chewy mint wrappers from the 70s…

20 October 2021, 08:03

Some more reaction to Ealing Council's unwanted advice

It appears that this tweet has become a lightning rod for residents’ frustrations with @EalingLabour‘s recent #BonfireOfActiveTravel in the borough.@_petermason‘s High-Traffic Neighbourhoods make following this advice needlessly dangerous and difficult. https://t.co/hCgK10k4eB

— Ealing Cycling Campaign (@EalingCyclists) October 20, 2021

Ealing Council has been taking a kicking today. Here’s some more of the rage and disbelief heading their way…

One quite famous local had his say too…

Left hand, right hand.

— Jeremy Vine (@theJeremyVine) October 19, 2021

Ealing Council ➡️ Residents, please walk and cycle more.

Also Ealing Council ➡️ Let’s take out as much safer active travel infrastructure as possible because we prioritise drivers needs.

🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

— Kevin Shaw Join a union🌹💉💉😷 (@kevshaw99) October 20, 2021

Over on our Facebook, David Kelly was keen to have a pop at every council everywhere.

“What do you expect? It’s a Council FGS.. I’ve yet to hear any good reports about any. Ours are just as useless..” Someone’s bin didn’t get collected…

20 October 2021, 08:03

Some proper (good) news...

Youth arrested in connection with Richmond Park bikejackings as local MP raises concerns over policing levels

Youth arrested in connection with Richmond Park bikejackings as local MP raises concerns over policing levels

16-year-old has been charged with unrelated offence while police continue investigation into spate of violent robberies

20 October 2021, 08:03

Zwift unveils new clubs functionality, new home screen and Makuri Islands expansion

Zwift unveils new clubs functionality, new home screen and Makuri Islands expansion

The Esports World Championship will also be back, and anyone can qualify

20 October 2021, 08:03

Seven bike thieves jailed after £70k raid on branch of Rutland Cycling

Seven bike thieves jailed after £70k raid on branch of Rutland Cycling

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  1. I like bikes
    October 20, 2021 at 8:45 am
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    People have got a point about
    People have got a point about lycra and ballet shoes, i regularly do50-100 mile rides, and manage comfortably in normal looking clothing ?‍♂️

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    • rct
      October 20, 2021 at 8:48 am
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      Good for you.  I prefer to do

      Good for you.  I prefer to do it a bit quicker even more comfortably so wear clothing to facilitate that.

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      • I like bikes
        October 20, 2021 at 9:34 am
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        ? Quicker than me you mean?
        ? Quicker than me you mean? Might be time for some silly commuter racing!
        Not that either of us are silly, and I’m not a commuter

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    • hawkinspeter
      October 20, 2021 at 8:56 am
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      I like bikes wrote:

      People have got a point about lycra and ballet shoes, i regularly do50-100 mile rides, and manage comfortably in normal looking clothing ?‍♂️

      — I like bikes

      I don’t understand that point at all.

      There’s plenty of different activities that sometimes require specialist clothing (e.g. kayaking and buoyancy jacket; swimming and speedos; cricket etc) and yes, you don’t necessarily need to wear cycle specific clothing – it’s just more comfortable for most people.

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      • Steve K
        October 20, 2021 at 9:45 am
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        hawkinspeter wrote:

        People have got a point about lycra and ballet shoes, i regularly do50-100 mile rides, and manage comfortably in normal looking clothing ?‍♂️

        — hawkinspeter

        I don’t understand that point at all.

        There’s plenty of different activities that sometimes require specialist clothing (e.g. kayaking and buoyancy jacket; swimming and speedos; cricket etc) and yes, you don’t necessarily need to wear cycle specific clothing – it’s just more comfortable for most people.— I like bikes

        There’s a whole fashion sector now called athleisure – half the mothers dropping off at my kids’ school are wearing lycra leggings; some of them will be on their way to a keep fit class of some sort, but many won’t.  Yet no-one complains about lycra then.  But suddently when someone wears it on a bike it’s a point to ridicule.  As I pointed out on the Ned Boulting thread, the Times sports journalist Elizabeth Ammon was at it on twitter the other day too.  It’s ridiculous.   (a) what’s wrong with wearing clothing designed for the activity you are undertaking and anyway (b) who gives a toss what other people wear.

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        • Jetmans Dad
          October 20, 2021 at 10:22 am
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          Steve K wrote:

          There’s a whole fashion sector now called athleisure – half the mothers dropping off at my kids’ school are wearing lycra leggings; some of them will be on their way to a keep fit class of some sort, but many won’t.  Yet no-one complains about lycra then.  But suddently when someone wears it on a bike it’s a point to ridicule.  

          — Steve K

          Without wanting to appear in any way sexist … could it be that the kind of people who complain about cyclists in lycra have no problem with how mums on the school run look in yoga pants, but don’t feel the same way about middle aged blokes in cycling shorts. 

          Just a thought. 

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          • GMBasix
            October 20, 2021 at 10:32 am
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            Jetmans Dad wrote:

              …school run…

            — Jetmans Dad

            it’s not even running

          • Geoff Ingram
            October 23, 2021 at 7:12 pm
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            As an oldie in lycra, all I
            As an oldie in lycra, all I can say is that if it is about aesthetic considerations, why don’t they complain about older woman in bathing costumes swimming in the sea? Exactly the same: wear correct comfortable clothing for your chosen sport and bollox to anyone else. OK, if your shorts are so worn that they are basically transparente and your arse is hanging out they may have a point, otherwise they should shutting up.

        • wycombewheeler
          October 20, 2021 at 12:38 pm
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          Steve K wrote:

          There’s a whole fashion sector now called athleisure – half the mothers dropping off at my kids’ school are wearing lycra leggings; some of them will be on their way to a keep fit class of some sort, 

          — Steve K

          If you are running a sweepstake on how many can I take 5% to 10%

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    • Sriracha
      October 20, 2021 at 9:06 am
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      What actually is “the point”

      People have got a point…

      — I like bikes

      What actually is “the point” about lycra (and ballet?) shoes? Some cyclists wear lycra, and, … and what?

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      • I like bikes
        October 20, 2021 at 9:35 am
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        They do look ridiculous
        They do look ridiculous though

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        • Hirsute
          October 20, 2021 at 9:41 am
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          The people ? The shoes? The

          The people ? The shoes? The clothing?

          Any other sports you judge people on for their attire ?

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        • Mungecrundle
          October 20, 2021 at 9:52 am
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          Lots of people look
          Lots of people look ridiculous, until you realise it’s your own prejudices that are ridiculous.

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          • hawkinspeter
            October 20, 2021 at 10:14 am
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            Mungecrundle wrote:

            Lots of people look ridiculous, until you realise it’s your own prejudices that are ridiculous.

            — Mungecrundle

            I’m not convinced on that pair of shoes for cycling with though. Probably fine for pootling around, but the stack height would throw off your bike’s geometry a bit.

          • chrisonabike
            October 20, 2021 at 12:03 pm
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            I hear he’s a bit of a demon

            I hear he’s a bit of a demon (mountain) biker although at least for MTB I think he wears flatter shoes.

            What has The Rules got to say about stockings though?

          • hawkinspeter
            October 20, 2021 at 12:18 pm
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            chrisonatrike wrote:

            I hear he’s a bit of a demon (mountain) biker although at least for MTB I think he wears flatter shoes.

            What has The Rules got to say about stockings though?

            — chrisonatrike

            I think stockings would be banned by UCI just on height alone.

            I like his comment on gravel bikes being the Lib Dems of cycling.

          • Captain Badger
            October 20, 2021 at 12:11 pm
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            hawkinspeter wrote:

            ….

            I’m not convinced on that pair of shoes for cycling with though. Probably fine for pootling around, but the stack height would throw off your bike’s geometry a bit.

            — hawkinspeter

            But you could raise the saddle to compensate

            Are the cleats embedded into the sole to make them more practical? or is that why the sole is so thick?

             

          • FrankH
            October 20, 2021 at 12:46 pm
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            Mungecrundle wrote:

            Lots of people look ridiculous, until you realise it’s your own prejudices that are ridiculous.

            — Mungecrundle

            I’m not convinced it’s my prejudice that’s making Mr Perry look ridiculous. 😀

          • brooksby
            October 20, 2021 at 12:53 pm
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            FrankH wrote:

            Lots of people look ridiculous, until you realise it’s your own prejudices that are ridiculous.

            — FrankH

            I’m not convinced it’s my prejudice that’s making Mr Perry look ridiculous. 😀

            — Mungecrundle

            Grayson doesn’t look ridiculous.  He looks fabulous!

        • hawkinspeter
          October 20, 2021 at 10:08 am
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          I like bikes wrote:

          They do look ridiculous though

          — I like bikes

          You look ridiculous

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          • Captain Badger
            October 20, 2021 at 12:14 pm
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            hawkinspeter wrote:

            They do look ridiculous though

            — hawkinspeter

            You look ridiculous— I like bikes

            y’mum

          • hawkinspeter
            October 20, 2021 at 12:30 pm
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            Captain Badger wrote:

            They do look ridiculous though

            — Captain Badger

            You look ridiculous

            — hawkinspeter

            y’mum

            — I like bikes

            Your mum’s so dumb that she bought paper and scissors to make a stationary bike

          • Captain Badger
            October 20, 2021 at 1:29 pm
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            hawkinspeter wrote:

            ……

            Your mum’s so dumb that she bought paper and scissors to make a stationary bike

            — hawkinspeter

            STATIONERY

          • hawkinspeter
            October 20, 2021 at 2:12 pm
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            Captain Badger wrote:

            ……

            Your mum’s so dumb that she bought paper and scissors to make a stationary bike

            — Captain Badger

            STATIONERY

            — hawkinspeter

            Your mum’s so dumb that she used Zermelo-Fraenkel and Choice axioms to make a sett.

          • brooksby
            October 20, 2021 at 2:21 pm
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            hawkinspeter wrote:

            Your mum’s so dumb that she used Zermelo-Fraenkel and Choice axioms to make a sett.

            — hawkinspeter

            I had to google that… 

          • peted76
            October 20, 2021 at 3:53 pm
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            brooksby wrote:

            Your mum’s so dumb that she used Zermelo-Fraenkel and Choice axioms to make a sett.

            — brooksby

            I had to google that… 

            — hawkinspeter

            This website is getting so highbrow nowadays!

          • Captain Badger
            October 20, 2021 at 5:29 pm
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            brooksby wrote:

            Your mum’s so dumb that she used Zermelo-Fraenkel and Choice axioms to make a sett.

            — brooksby

            I had to google that… 

            — hawkinspeter

            I haven’t yet – is it safe for a work laptop?

          • mdavidford
            October 20, 2021 at 6:12 pm
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            Captain Badger wrote:

            Your mum’s so dumb that she used Zermelo-Fraenkel and Choice axioms to make a sett.

            — Captain Badger

            I had to google that… 

            — brooksby

            I haven’t yet – is it safe for a work laptop?

            — hawkinspeter

            Depends how much you compartmentalise your life.

          • wycombewheeler
            October 20, 2021 at 3:05 pm
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            hawkinspeter wrote:

            They do look ridiculous though

            — hawkinspeter

            You look ridiculous

            — Captain Badger

            y’mum

            — hawkinspeter

            Your mum’s so dumb that she bought paper and scissors to make a stationary bike

            — I like bikes

            I’m sure Boo will be along shortly to help you both with etiquette.

            Where would society be – for example – if we couldn’t ask fat guys when their baby is due? It’s all part and parcel of life.

            — Nigel Garage

            never mind

            For the record, I’d never ask a woman when her baby is due or anything to do with weight because that falls outside the realms of humour and becomes personal.

            — Nigel Garage

            Interesting that comments about a man’s weight are considered banter but comments about a woman’s weight would be too personal and therefore not humour. I’m sure this has nothing to do with the problem of mens mental health. The fact that men have no grounds for complaint about behavour that could well be considered bullying, because it’s all just banter.

          • chrisonabike
            October 20, 2021 at 12:49 pm
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            Captain Badger wrote:

            They do look ridiculous though

            — Captain Badger

            You look ridiculous

            — hawkinspeter

            y’mum

            — I like bikes

            Ya Mama! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnCeZY6nxjQ

          • hawkinspeter
            October 20, 2021 at 1:19 pm
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            chrisonatrike wrote:

            Ya Mama! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnCeZY6nxjQ

            — chrisonatrike

            I’ve recently been rediscovering my love of A Tribe Called Quest – maybe I should branch out into a bit of Pharcyde too.

          • chrisonabike
            October 20, 2021 at 2:23 pm
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            Enjoy! Also picked up the

            Enjoy! Also picked up the Quest again last year. I started out on Kool Keith and Saul Williams so I’m kinda branching back in…

          • I like bikes
            October 21, 2021 at 12:26 am
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            Your mum looks ridiculous x
            Your mum looks ridiculous x

        • GMBasix
          October 20, 2021 at 10:19 am
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          I like bikes wrote:

          They do look ridiculous though

          — I like bikes

          If people are arguing against cycling on the basis of what some people who cycle look like, they’ve lost the argument as well as any moral high ground they imagine they may hold.

          In other instances, that constitutes hate crime.

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        • peted76
          October 20, 2021 at 10:36 am
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          I like bikes wrote:

          They do look ridiculous though

          — I like bikes

          I don’t know about you or who ‘they’ are but I look fabulous in lycra. If you’ve got it flaunt it I say, all 5’6″ and 71kgs of my 45 year old self.

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          • chrisonabike
            October 20, 2021 at 12:52 pm
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            Seeing as I’m on a theme here

            Seeing as I’m on a theme here:

            https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/754/244/034.jpg

    • Rendel Harris
      October 20, 2021 at 9:06 am
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      I’ve climbed some of the

      I’ve climbed (walking) some of the highest hills in England in jeans and trainers and managed quite comfortably. It would take quite some ego to state that meant other people were wrong to wear hiking boots.

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    • TriTaxMan
      October 20, 2021 at 9:09 am
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      Good for you.  I on the other

      Good for you.  I on the other hand find it much more comfortable riding, especially long distances, in lycra cycling shorts.

      Should drivers only be allowed to drive normal looking cars on roads?  I mean 4×4’s are not designed to go on roads, they are designed by their nature to go offroad, and look different to the “normal looking cars” on the road

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      • andystow
        October 20, 2021 at 1:34 pm
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        TriTaxMan wrote:

        Should drivers only be allowed to drive normal looking cars on roads?  I mean 4×4’s are not designed to go on roads, they are designed by their nature to go offroad, and look different to the “normal looking cars” on the road

        — TriTaxMan

        Yes.

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    • Hirsute
      October 20, 2021 at 9:28 am
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      I wear lycra because I was

      I wear lycra because I was fed up with my trousers wearing through. Then there is the problem of getting your clothes in the chain or oil on them.

      I used toeclips from the age of about 11 then I swapped to spd when they came in, as I always hated the idea of my foot slipping off the pedal under load.

      Do you also question runners for wearing trail shoes and pronation specific ones and technical tops and shorts ?

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    • Steve K
      October 20, 2021 at 9:40 am
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      Ballet shoes would be really

      Ballet shoes would be really really rubbish to cycle in.

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      • chrisonabike
        October 20, 2021 at 9:51 am
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        Steve K wrote:

        Ballet shoes would be really really rubbish to cycle in.

        — Steve K

        Ooh – challenge! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGu-d2MjAzs

        I’d be more concerned about crotch reinforcement there though.

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        • Steve K
          October 20, 2021 at 10:12 am
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          I must show that to my

          I must show that to my (ballet dancing) daughter.

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          • Steve K
            October 20, 2021 at 7:28 pm
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            Steve K wrote:

            I must show that to my (ballet dancing) daughter.

            — Steve K

            She was very impressed.

        • SimoninSpalding
          October 20, 2021 at 12:15 pm
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          You see, that is just wrong.
          You see, that is just wrong. Riding a Fixie without a beard is illegal.

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          • chrisonabike
            October 20, 2021 at 12:30 pm
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            That option is available:

            That option is available:

            #biking with #ConchitaWurst for a better world – Denmark and Austria greening our planet pic.twitter.com/yorYjRxPGp

            — Liselotte Plesner (@LPlesner) May 10, 2014

             

      • ErnieC
        October 20, 2021 at 7:26 pm
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        Steve K wrote:

        Ballet shoes would be really really rubbish to cycle in.

        — Steve K

        unless you cycled standing up on the tips of your toes, would work a treat then. Mind you, one would have to be careful of the flappy ribbons they use instead of laces. A lick of gaffer tape should sort that out though. 

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    • Nigel Garage
      October 20, 2021 at 10:41 am
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      I like bikes wrote:

      People have got a point about lycra and ballet shoes, i regularly do50-100 mile rides, and manage comfortably in normal looking clothing ?‍♂️

      — I like bikes

      In all fairness to the poster in the blog they said “tap dancing shoes”, which I can kind of see. Let’s be honest – they are vaguely impractical, as anyone who wears them (me included) will attest to… off the bike you look like a duck that’s just landed on a frozen lake

      It’s up to each individual as to what they wear, but I do enjoy the banter with this kind of thing – I’d be a bit of a hypocrite otherwise, as would many others here. Where would society be – for example – if we couldn’t ask fat guys when their baby is due? It’s all part and parcel of life.

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      • Mungecrundle
        October 20, 2021 at 11:19 am
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        “if we couldn’t ask fat guys
        “if we couldn’t ask fat guys when their baby is due?”

        Hilarious, especially if the poor bloke you are taking the piss out of has a serious medical condition.

        https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-58890914

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      • stomec
        October 20, 2021 at 11:54 am
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        Nigel Garage wrote:

        It’s up to each individual as to what they wear, but I do enjoy the banter with this kind of thing – I’d be a bit of a hypocrite otherwise, as would many others here. Where would society be – for example – if we couldn’t ask fat guys when their baby is due? It’s all part and parcel of life.

        — Nigel Garage

        At the highest echelon you become a role model for others, a “senpai” who not only lives and breathes perfect manners, but inspires others to begin their own journey up the ladder, mentoring and nurturing others in the art of cycling with politeness and courtesy.

        — Nigel Garage

        Ah I love the smell of hypocrisy at lunchtime!

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        • Nigel Garage
          October 20, 2021 at 12:55 pm
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          Oh come on! There’s a
          Oh come on! There’s a difference between abuse and some light-hearted mutual banter to lift the mood on a gloomy day. I may even allow a retort about my worryingly receding hairline.

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          • Rendel Harris
            October 20, 2021 at 1:03 pm
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            Nigel Garage wrote:

            Oh come on! There’s a difference between abuse and some light-hearted mutual banter to lift the mood on a gloomy day. I may even allow a retort about my worryingly receding hairline.

            — Nigel Garage

            Ah, “only banter” – the cry of the humourless and ill-mannered from time immemorial.

          • stomec
            October 20, 2021 at 3:01 pm
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            Nigel Garage wrote:

            Oh come on! There’s a difference between abuse and some light-hearted mutual banter to lift the mood on a gloomy day. I may even allow a retort about my worryingly receding hairline.

            — Nigel Garage

            Where would society be – for example – if we couldn’t ask fat guys when their baby is due? It’s all part and parcel of life.

            — Nigel Garrage

            When is calling an overweight man pregnant abuse, and when is it light hearted banter?  I used to think that your stand on courtesy and politeness was the one principle you actually believed in, as opposed to the obvious trolling, but this comment confirms it is trolls all the way down…. 

          • Nigel Garage
            October 20, 2021 at 3:34 pm
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            The point is that facts

            The point is that facts should come before people’s feelings, politeness notwithstanding. And let’s be honest, there’s those of us who eat healthily and look after ourselves, and then there’s others who spend too long in the cream cake aisle in Morrisons, or enjoy the odd double quarter pounder.

            Now I’m no psychologist, but I believe that a bit of rib-ticklingly funny banter with friends about weight is a far less harmful to someone’s health than either allowing them to go on eating and suffer the consequences, or tell them straight up and upset their feelings. I wouldn’t do the same to a woman (and here I’m defining the word “woman” as someone born as a female), because statistically they have a lower chance of having health-related heart problems.

          • Rendel Harris
            October 20, 2021 at 6:13 pm
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            Wow, you really are a nasty

            Wow, you really are a nasty piece of work, aren’t you? Overeating can stem from a panoply of causes, many of them mental health related: people who were abused as children are statistically significantly more likely to be obese, for example. Many people suffer weight gain as a result of medical problems: some years ago a combination of chemotherapy drugs and steroids (plus the fact I was too ill to ride) made me balloon to fifteen stone, even though I put myself on a strict 1200 calorie a day diet. It made me as depressed as I’ve ever been in my life (and I’m usually quite a cheery sort of cove), knowing that people like you would be looking at me and assuming that meant I was one of those “who spend too long in the cream cake aisle in Morrisons, or enjoy the odd double quarter pounder.” Your attitude is pure poison and you should be ashamed of yourself.

          • Nigel Garage
            October 20, 2021 at 7:15 pm
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            Talking of nasty pieces of

            Talking of nasty pieces of work, you appear to have put a load of words down that I didn’t actually write in a vain attempt to be magnanimous. I did laugh at the “cheery sort of cove” label that you awarded yourself. Anyway, as always, when people get personal I withdraw from the conversation. So have a great evening.

          • Rendel Harris
            October 20, 2021 at 7:32 pm
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            Nigel Garage wrote:

            Talking of nasty pieces of work, you appear to have put a load of words down that I didn’t actually write in a vain attempt to be magnanimous. I did laugh at the “cheery sort of cove” label that you awarded yourself. Anyway, as always, when people get personal I withdraw from the conversation. So have a great evening.

            — Nigel Garage

            “Magnanimous”? Oh dear, ignorant of the meaning of language on top of everything else.

            Yes, you withdraw because people get personal…and toddle off and insult overweight men by asking when the baby’s due, that’s not personal. 

            You did promise months ago that you were leaving this site – you remember, it was just before you changed your username three times and then got banned? – it really is time for you to make good on that, you stink up the joint.

          • Nigeǀ Garage
            October 21, 2021 at 5:37 am
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            https://www.merriam-webster
            https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/magnanimous – you’re welcome, no apology needed. Of course, as per usual the mask slipped pretty quickly.

          • Rendel Harris
            October 21, 2021 at 6:06 am
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            And no apology will you get,

            And no apology will you get, given that magnanimous does not have the meaning you are claiming for it in British English, which is why you’ve had to, rather desperately, resort to citing a US dictionary.

          • Sniffer
            October 20, 2021 at 8:07 pm
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            Bye
            Bye

          • Steve K
            October 20, 2021 at 7:32 pm
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            https://www.healthline.com
            https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/fat-shaming-makes-things-worse

          • ErnieC
            October 20, 2021 at 7:38 pm
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            Nigel Garage wrote:

            The point is that facts should come before people’s feelings, politeness notwithstanding. And let’s be honest, there’s those of us who eat healthily and look after ourselves, and then there’s others who spend too long in the cream cake aisle in Morrisons, or enjoy the odd double quarter pounder.

            Now I’m no psychologist, but I believe that a bit of rib-ticklingly funny banter with friends about weight is a far less harmful to someone’s health than either allowing them to go on eating and suffer the consequences, or tell them straight up and upset their feelings. I wouldn’t do the same to a woman (and here I’m defining the word “woman” as someone born as a female), because statistically they have a lower chance of having health-related heart problems.

            — Nigel Garage

            until the banter hurts their feelings..or is that covered by your facts before feelings comments and  unless of course you’re a woman in which no comments at all are appropriate. 

          • Gus T
            October 20, 2021 at 4:06 pm
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            Nigel Garage wrote:

            Oh come on! There’s a difference between abuse and some light-hearted mutual banter to lift the mood on a gloomy day. I may even allow a retort about my worryingly receding hairline.

            — Nigel Garage

            It might be light hearted banter to you but not to your victim and will more than likely have an affect on that persons mental health. Banter, a thinly disguised term for abuse aimed at people who don’t fit your ideal.

      • chrisonabike
        October 20, 2021 at 12:00 pm
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        Careful Nigel – bit of a

        Careful Nigel – bit of a minefield here even for someone with your tactfulness! It might not be such bantz with fat women and it’s possible to be mistaken.

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        • Nigel Garage
          October 20, 2021 at 12:59 pm
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          chrisonatrike wrote:

          Careful Nigel – bit of a minefield here even for someone with your tactfulness! It might not be such bantz with fat women and it’s possible to be mistaken.

          — chrisonatrike

          For the record, I’d never ask a woman when her baby is due or anything to do with weight because that falls outside the realms of humour and becomes personal.

          Or a man with long hair. Just in case.

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          • chrisonabike
            October 20, 2021 at 2:16 pm
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            Nigel Garage wrote:

            Careful Nigel – bit of a minefield here even for someone with your tactfulness! It might not be such bantz with fat women and it’s possible to be mistaken.

            — Nigel Garage For the record, I’d never ask a woman when her baby is due or anything to do with weight because that falls outside the realms of humour and becomes personal. Or a man with long hair. Just in case.— chrisonatrike

            I am decades behind the now but I understand it is not even that simple:

            https://www.pride.com/entertainment/2018/3/22/11-drag-kings-you-should-definitely-know-about

            I may have broader tastes than you though since I ride both ways – upright and ‘bent. I’ve nothing against tandems, penny farthings or tricycles either. Those unicyclists though…

          • hawkinspeter
            October 20, 2021 at 2:54 pm
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            chrisonatrike wrote:

            I may have broader tastes than you though since I ride both ways – upright and ‘bent. I’ve nothing against tandems, penny farthings or tricycles either. Those unicyclists though…

            — chrisonatrike

            The difference between a bicyclist and a unicyclist is just attire.

            http://wondermark.com/c/2006-08-04-218unicycle.gif

          • chrisonabike
            October 20, 2021 at 2:41 pm
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            hawkinspeter wrote:

            I may have broader tastes than you though since I ride both ways – upright and ‘bent. I’ve nothing against tandems, penny farthings or tricycles either. Those unicyclists though…

            — hawkinspeter

            The difference between a bicyclist and a unicyclist is just attire.

            http://wondermark.com/c/2006-08-04-218unicycle.gif

            — chrisonatrike

            I find them unbalanced myself. Can agree that “two wheels” is a bicycle however you frame it?

          • wycombewheeler
            October 20, 2021 at 3:18 pm
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            chrisonatrike wrote:

            Careful Nigel – bit of a minefield here even for someone with your tactfulness! It might not be such bantz with fat women and it’s possible to be mistaken.

            — chrisonatrike

            For the record, I’d never ask a woman when her baby is due or anything to do with weight because that falls outside the realms of humour and becomes personal. Or a man with long hair. Just in case.

            — Nigel Garage

            I am decades behind the now but I understand it is not even that simple:

            https://www.pride.com/entertainment/2018/3/22/11-drag-kings-you-should-definitely-know-about

            I may have broader tastes than you though since I ride both ways – upright and ‘bent. I’ve nothing against tandems, penny farthings or tricycles either. Those unicyclists though…

            — chrisonatrike

            I blame inclusivity, these bikesexuals now think they can flaunt their desire to ride anything they see in front of everyone. It’s quite disturbing.

          • ErnieC
            October 20, 2021 at 7:41 pm
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            Nigel Garage wrote:

            Careful Nigel – bit of a minefield here even for someone with your tactfulness! It might not be such bantz with fat women and it’s possible to be mistaken.

            — Nigel Garage For the record, I’d never ask a woman when her baby is due or anything to do with weight because that falls outside the realms of humour and becomes personal. Or a man with long hair. Just in case.— chrisonatrike

            but ok to ask a man about his weight or joke about it?

      • Rendel Harris
        October 20, 2021 at 12:18 pm
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        Nigel Garage wrote:

        Where would society be – for example – if we couldn’t ask fat guys when their baby is due? It’s all part and parcel of life.

        — Nigel Garage

        Is this an example of your oft-boasted-self-promoted “courtesy” – being rude to other people because of their weight? Classy.

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        • Gus T
          October 20, 2021 at 4:01 pm
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          Rendel Harris wrote:

          Where would society be – for example – if we couldn’t ask fat guys when their baby is due? It’s all part and parcel of life.

          — Rendel Harris

          Is this an example of your oft-boasted-self-promoted “courtesy” – being rude to other people because of their weight? Classy.

          — Nigel Garage

          As a resident fat lad, I’m certain Boo wouldn’t comment on peoples weight, the likelyhood of a knuckle sandwich as a responce would terrify him.

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      • SimoninSpalding
        October 20, 2021 at 12:22 pm
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        Nigel Garage wrote:

        I’d be a bit of a hypocrite

        — Nigel Garage

        Surely nobody’s ever accused you of that!

        Edit: I see Stomec has?

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    • HoarseMann
      October 20, 2021 at 12:26 pm
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      Maybe it’s normal clothing

      Maybe it’s normal clothing that needs a rethink. I mean, what is it about a shirt and trousers that’s so optimal for office based work for example? Surely a onesie with a giant bum pad would be better for sitting on your backside all day??

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      • SimoninSpalding
        October 20, 2021 at 12:50 pm
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        After 18 months of home
        After 18 months of home working I can neither confirm nor deny this.

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      • Kendalred
        October 20, 2021 at 1:26 pm
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        HoarseMann wrote:

        Maybe it’s normal clothing that needs a rethink. I mean, what is it about a shirt and trousers that’s so optimal for office based work for example? Surely a onesie with a giant bum pad would be better for sitting on your backside all day??

        — HoarseMann

        D’you know, after sitting on a less than ideal chair working from home (including today) for the best (or worst) part of two years, I’ve never once thought of wearing padded shorts! Might give it a try!

         

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    • FrankH
      October 20, 2021 at 12:43 pm
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      I like bikes wrote:

      People have got a point about lycra and ballet shoes, i regularly do50-100 mile rides, and manage comfortably in normal looking clothing ?‍♂️

      — I like bikes

      It was tap dancing shoes aksherly.

      Anyway, as others have said: what’s wrong with wearing appropriate clothing for the activity?
      A hard hat and hi-viz to work on a building site
      Running shoes and shorts to go jogging

      I could go on.

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      • belugabob
        October 20, 2021 at 1:52 pm
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        The last person to comment on
        The last person to comment on my cycling attire (whilst I was actually – err – cycling) was wearing an American football top and a baseball cap.
        I did consider asking when they last (or ever) participated in either of those two sports, but thought it best to not make their head explode

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    • Kapelmuur
      October 20, 2021 at 6:29 pm
      0

      I once had a discussion with

      I once had a discussion with a bloke in a pub about wearing lycra, he ridiculed it.   He was there to watch football while wearing a replica football club shirt.

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      • Steve K
        October 20, 2021 at 8:08 pm
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        Kapelmuur wrote:

        I once had a discussion with a bloke in a pub about wearing lycra, he ridiculed it.   He was there to watch football while wearing a replica football club shirt.

        — Kapelmuur

        I’ve got severa cycling top versions of football shirts. They’ll just blow your mind!

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        • andystow
          October 20, 2021 at 8:30 pm
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          I make sure I only wear my

          I make sure I only wear my Bruichladdich jersey when I plan on cycling and drinking.

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  2. 0-0
    October 20, 2021 at 9:02 am
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    I’ve only found two things
    I’ve only found two things whilst cycling on the roads:
    Pot holes and arse holes ?

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  3. brooksby
    October 20, 2021 at 11:08 am
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    That Medellin run.
      

    That Medellin run.

      

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    • mdavidford
      October 20, 2021 at 11:18 am
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      Quote:

      Want eight reasons why your next bike should be a mountain bike? This video may have just made that nine…

      Er, really not. More likely to scare me off them for life.

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  4. SlowOldSteve
    October 20, 2021 at 11:37 am
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    That MTB run, wow, I’m

    That MTB run, wow, I’m tasting hospital food just watching!! Respect to the riders.

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  5. chrisonabike
    October 20, 2021 at 12:06 pm
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    RE Nigeria will be the envy

    RE Nigeria will be the envy of everyone at the UCI Track Cycling World Championships – I hope they’re fast otherwise they’re likely to be driven over by cars.

     

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    • brooksby
      October 20, 2021 at 12:52 pm
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      That kit looks like the

      That kit looks like the wrappers of those chewy mints you could buy back in the seventies…

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      • brooksby
        October 20, 2021 at 2:47 pm
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        Found it!

        Found it!

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacers_(confectionery)

        And it was the sweets that looked like that, apparently…

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    • IanGlasgow
      October 20, 2021 at 2:27 pm
      0

      They’d be well camouflaged

      They’d be well camouflaged cycling in that lane.

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  6. mdavidford
    October 20, 2021 at 2:24 pm
    0

    Picky, but

    Picky, but

    Traveling [sic] at speed, along a dedicated cycle lane, past an unmarked traffic car isn’t the best idea when you don’t have insurance!

    It would have been OK if they were insured?

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    • wycombewheeler
      October 20, 2021 at 3:17 pm
      0

      mdavidford wrote:

      Picky, but

      Traveling [sic] at speed, along a dedicated cycle lane, past an unmarked traffic car isn’t the best idea when you don’t have insurance!

      — mdavidford

      It would have been OK if they were insured?

      No, but drawing attention to yourself when you are already commiting a crime is very foolish. It’s amazin how many other offences the police uncover due to traffic stops. You’d think if crimanals are driving cars containing damning evidence (look a boot full of drugs) they would take pains to ensure their driving was unlikely to draw attention.

      But then I guess the jails are full of stupid criminals, and the smart ones don’t get caught.

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      • mdavidford
        October 20, 2021 at 3:45 pm
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        wycombewheeler wrote:

        You’d think if crimanals are driving cars containing damning evidence (look a boot full of drugs) they would take pains to ensure their driving was unlikely to draw attention.

        — wycombewheeler

        Not necessarily. Part of the reason they’re happy to drive around without insurance or with a boot full of drugs is probably due to an assumption that there won’t be anyone around to catch them in the first place. The same assumption then applies to driving in the cycle lane, at 1.5x the speed limit, etc.

        And the sad part is that in the large majority of cases, they’re probably right to assume that.

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  7. Organon
    October 20, 2021 at 9:14 pm
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    Sorry Nairo, that

    Sorry Nairo, that generational ship has sailed. That applies to you Chris too.

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  8. dabba
    October 21, 2021 at 7:26 am
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    Ealing Council
    Ealing Council?

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chrisonabike 8 minutes ago

Is there any detection? Lots (most?) UK lights seem to operate on fixed cycles - and certainly cycle detection seems rare (and nothing like NL where there may be sensors some distance in advance to detect approaching bikes and see if lights can be changed so they're green when they get to them). There also seems to be a vicious cycle of "have to leave extra time after lights change because drivers keep rolling through *until* they've gone red", which is possibly self-catalysing / makes people annoyed if they *are* waiting but nobody is moving or crossing.

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Rendel Harris 9 minutes ago

@quiff Yes think you're quite right but that's what causes the trouble for the unwary (like tourists, and me when I'm thinking of something else), approaching the lights from the other (Palace) side you can't see that the cyclists coming up from Parliament Square have a green light, so it's all too easy to assume that with the motor traffic stopped in all directions the cyclists will be stopped too, when they're not.

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chrisonabike 15 minutes ago

Getting up to the Downs? If it's in the summer can't people just catch a passing balloon? I'm slightly "EAPC cautious" but Bristol seems a reasonable use-case for them. Alternatively what about the council installing escalators - after all if it's hard to cycle up there won't you think of the pedestrians? "We are where we are" (why *wouldn't* you drive everywhere?) but I do occasionally stop to wonder how anyone got anywhere pre-car.

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quiff 20 minutes ago

Very wholesome, but I found it difficult to imagine this happening in the UK. "Do you want a lift in my cargo bike?" "No, get away from me you weirdo."

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quiff 24 minutes ago

On Birdcage Walk, I think the cycle lane has totally separate phasing so that when it's green you can either turn right past Bucks Palace, or go straight over towards Victoria. But I agree that does mean holding those who want to turn right for an inordinately long time, which is just too much for some people (even though they often then decide to wait at the lights at the Mall). I quite enjoy a game of catch up with the the RLJer on Constitution Hill.

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Rendel Harris 1 hour ago

@quiff I abhor RLJ and don't do it myself but in both those instances at least part of the blame lies with poor junction design in my opinion, around Westminster Bridge and Embankment the phasing is ridiculous, I don't know if the sensors are poorly calibrated or what but it often seems to be the case that traffic in all directions and pedestrians are all being held on red, it's unsurprising if not excusable that some people can't be bothered to wait when the way ahead is clear. As for the Birdcage Walk/Buckingham Palace lights, they are just weird: I nearly got knocked down there myself by a cyclist as a pedestrian last week, and it would've been my fault but the cycle lane lights seem to have no connection with the lights for the rest of the road, so on the two lane carriageway the traffic lights are on red in both directions and you think it's okay to cross, but then as you get to the other side you find that the cycle lane lights in both directions are green and a bunch of tourists on Lime bikes comes charging round from Spur Road. I've seen so many near misses between cyclists and pedestrians there with one or both groups confused by the light layout. Both well-intentioned schemes that are better than what was there before certainly but both need some attention, I believe.

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BroomBroomBroom 1 hour ago

Long past time that through traffic was reduced on the Downs. Something must also be done to prevent idiots parking on the grass, which has become a serious and widespread problem recently. The difficulty with the family cycle route though is how people get to it in the first place. Apart from the difficulty of cycling through traffic with one's family, there's also the prospect of a pretty serious climb for almost anyone who doesn't live in Sneyd Park.

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mdavidford 3 hours ago

The word 'obviously' is doing a lot of heavy lifting there.

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Rome73 3 hours ago

I really liked that short clip of the guy picking up the running ped / bus passenger on the cargo bike. It was proof again that e-bikes are excellent in the city. They are quick, they are load carriers, they can filter, they can stop quickly and have a small footprint (unlike the typical monster car) For the urban environment the e-bike is unbeatable.

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