Council ridiculed for encouraging cycling…two weeks after ripping out LTNs; 10/10 kit; Insane urban downhill skills; Uninsured driver caught in cycle lane; Quick-Step tease contract news…it wasn’t Cav; Bike bus trend spreads + more on the live blog
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"Were cycles not on roads before vehicles took over?": Some final reaction to yesterday's social media spat
Right, let’s wrap up the final reaction to the drivers vs cyclists social media spat from yesterday…chances are most cyclists here drive as well, a context that’s often lost in a 280 character reply. The tweet that began it all has now been deleted, but spread the message “the amount of cyclists on the road today should be considered a crime.”
It got plenty of educational (and funny) replies, and for whatever reason these sorts of ‘debates’ are popular, so here’s the last of your thoughts and opinions before we move on…
Clive Wallis commented on Facebook: “Three hours waiting for fuel not a problem. Double parking – not a problem. 10 minutes driving round looking for a parking place – that’s okay. Held up for three seconds by a cyclist and I go ballistic !!!!”
Tim Chandler added: “It’s all relative…car drivers don’t give a toss about holding up motorcyclists, but get stroppy when they get held up by the kings of the road on pedal cycles.”
Graham Snook still has the most-liked comment: “They moan about people on bikes on the road, they moan about spending money on a dedicated cycling infrastructure to get people on bikes off the road. They moan if we go too close to their cars and moan if we keep a safe distance away from them. They moan that they want us to obey the traffic laws, but also moan when we ride two abreast. What they want us to be is Schrödinger’s cyclist.”
The blog got enough attention for it to be shared out to the wider non-cycling public, including some of those who enjoy a spot of bingo…
Bubba Junior added some intellect to the conversation…”Not got a problem with push bikes but for the love of god can you wear proper clothing, the bikes was here before cars but the men didn’t ride around in Lycra shorts and tap dancing shoes.”
To be honest, we’re still thinking about this…
Deceuninck-Quick-Step tease "important news"...spoiler alert: it wasn't Cav's contract announcement
Important news coming in just a couple of minutes 😃
— Deceuninck-QuickStep (@deceuninck_qst) October 20, 2021
As a British-based cycling website, when you see Quick-Step tweet something like this it gets you excited for some Cav news…are they about to finally announce his new contract? Nope. No offence, Zdeněk Štybar, it’s not quite the news we were looking for…
A winner of Omloop, Strade Bianche and E3.
A stage winner at Le Tour and La Vuelta.
A two-time National Champion.
One of the team’s longest-serving members.Happy to announce that @zdenekstybar stays with us in 2022 – his 12th season in the Wolfpack: https://t.co/Z1iD80UG2i pic.twitter.com/huNtwai6vY
— Deceuninck-QuickStep (@deceuninck_qst) October 20, 2021
Bike bus trend spreads: meet the Bicibús (or should I say El Bicibús)
Something special is happening in Barcelona. It started last month when some parents organized a bike ride to school for just five kids. Now entire neighborhoods are joining. They call it Bicibús – or Bike Bus. pic.twitter.com/qIxsQEervG
— Zach Klein (@zachklein) October 18, 2021
We’ve seen a few of these pop up here in the UK and Ireland, but it seems the trend is going international.
As good as it gets? How's your bike-handling? How are your nerves?
¿Tranquila la vista desde Medellín 🇨🇴, no? pic.twitter.com/JECJQlGepK
— The Line Breaker (@thelinebreaker_) October 18, 2021
Every time this video resurfaces it gets those butterflies going. Just watching until the end feels like an accomplishment…
Want eight reasons why your next bike should be a mountain bike? This video may have just made that nine…
And for all the best specialist off-road news, reviews and features check out our sister site off-road.cc…
10/10 kit: Nigeria will be the envy of everyone at the UCI Track Cycling World Championships
🇳🇬🇳🇬 BEST KIT? 🇳🇬 🇳🇬#Roubaix2021 pic.twitter.com/yTaGJEQFGJ
— UCI Track Cycling (@UCI_Track) October 20, 2021
It’s day one of the world champs in Roubaix and the Nigerians may have won the entire thing already. Not because of anything on the track, just for this beauty of a kit…
Here’s your day one schedule. Lots of qualifying (plus some team sprint finals later on)…
Day One Schedule 📄
Follow today’s racing on the UCI Live Race Hub#Roubaix2021
— UCI Track Cycling (@UCI_Track) October 20, 2021
Grand Tour news: Remco will go to the Vuelta + Quintana all in for the Tour
He may not have finished on the podium since 2016 and in the top ten since 2019, but Nairo Quintana says he’s still going all in for the Tour de France next July. The Colombian took a break from dressing as a chameleon on the Masked Singer to speak to EFE…”For me, the Tour is always the race of the year – all of my preparation will be focused on the Tour. We’ll have to talk to the directors and riders, and we’ll study the route, and then we’ll make some decisions about how we will take on the Tour.
“I am a GC rider. Every year I come to the Tour with these ambitions, except 2021, when physical problems wiped them out. The route is good for us. It’s important to arrive in top condition to be able to take it on.”
Elsewhere, Patrick Lefevere has been saying things. Don’t worry, nothing silly. He outlined his team’s plans for Remco Evenepoel next year and said the goal is to get the Belgian back in top shape for the Vuelta a España. Evenepoel struggled at his maiden Grand Tour, this year’s Giro, and Lefevere wants to build him up with week-long stage races before taking the step up to three weeks.
Council ridiculed for encouraging cycling...two weeks after ripping out LTNs
Images that precede heavy criticism:
12 days till #COP26!
Each day, we will be posting an impactful action you can take for the environment.
Over 50% of the journeys taken in the UK are under 2 miles. Why not start small & swap one car journey a week for walking, cycling or public transport 🚶♀️🚴🏼🚌🚋#ActForEaling pic.twitter.com/6rGJDnrizl
— EalingCouncil (@EalingCouncil) October 19, 2021
Ealing Council was winding up its residents this morning by suggesting active travel or public transport for journeys of under two miles. The problem? Well, just two weeks ago today they began work removing seven LTNs based on 22,000 responses to a ‘consultation’ many have dubbed a residents’ referendum.
Cllr Costigan asked locals to believe the council remains committed to active travel, but was listening to (22,000 out of 340,000) local people when deciding to scrap the schemes. It wasn’t the first time the council has ended up in hot water for its handling of an active travel scheme.
Back in May, an LTN trial was removed “during the school run” as parents and children tried to make their way home along the route…
Needless to say, suggesting more walking and cycling didn’t go down well, with many accusing the council of empty words and encouraging, not enabling.
Why not swim across the crocodile-infested river where we recently removed the bridge
— Hannah 🚲 (@theeyecollector) October 20, 2021
Hilarious – @EalingCouncil removes safe cycling routes and LTNs, and then asks us to cycle and walk. Top points for humour, zero points for effective action.
— Karen Liebreich (@kareninagarden) October 19, 2021
Our personal favourite…
You’re asking people to go for a swim after publicly shitting in the pool
— Kai (@4catsnomore) October 20, 2021
"All he does is ride a bicycle around the neighbourhood": Meghan Markle's dad slams Prince Harry...about his time in the saddle
Time for some tedious celeb news to light up your Wednesday afternoon…the estranged father of Meghan Markle has ripped into Prince Harry during an explosive Good Morning Britain interview. Why? For one, he abandoned the Queen and royal family. But far worse, “All he does now is ride a bicycle around the neighbourhood he lives in. It’s not much of a life for him either, it doesn’t make sense.”
Doesn’t sound too bad to me. Was anything else said worth reporting here? No, not really…
Uninsured driver caught taking cycle lane shortcut
Driver of this vehicle thought his car was a pedal cycle! Traveling at speed, along a dedicated cycle lane, past an unmarked traffic car isn’t the best idea when you don’t have insurance! 🤦♂️ Vehicle stopped on Bridgwater Way, driver reported and vehicle seized #165 pic.twitter.com/1XnJ9beY6N
— GMP Traffic (@gmptraffic) October 19, 2021
Another classic of the ‘drivers using cycle lanes’ genre. Jeremy Vine has something of a monopoly on the genre in our archives…
> Jeremy Vine films motorist driving down Hyde Park cycle path
One in Hyde Park and one Uber driver cutting in front of a cyclist to take a shortcut through a segregated cycle lane.
Worse still was the German motorist who filmed himself speeding past a cyclist riding in the road…by driving along the segregated shared-use path. The driver shared the video on Facebook with the caption, “If you use my lane, I’ll use yours.”
Four-time Ironman world champion Chrissie Wellington goes gravel
I’m not sure I could look any happier! I am beyond grateful to the awesome team at @NorthRoadCycles for creating this custom built & painted two wheeling thing of absolute beauty. Let the gravelly off road adventures begin! #gravelbike #cycling #adventures pic.twitter.com/BRwAWdgRj8
— Chrissie Wellington (@chrissiesmiles) October 20, 2021
Nigeria kit or fake cycling infra?
Chrisonatrike in the comments feels like he’s seen that Nigeria kit before…brooksby reckons it’s more like the chewy mint wrappers from the 70s…
Some more reaction to Ealing Council's unwanted advice
It appears that this tweet has become a lightning rod for residents’ frustrations with @EalingLabour‘s recent #BonfireOfActiveTravel in the borough.@_petermason‘s High-Traffic Neighbourhoods make following this advice needlessly dangerous and difficult. https://t.co/hCgK10k4eB
— Ealing Cycling Campaign (@EalingCyclists) October 20, 2021
Ealing Council has been taking a kicking today. Here’s some more of the rage and disbelief heading their way…
One quite famous local had his say too…
Left hand, right hand.
— Jeremy Vine (@theJeremyVine) October 19, 2021
Ealing Council ➡️ Residents, please walk and cycle more.
Also Ealing Council ➡️ Let’s take out as much safer active travel infrastructure as possible because we prioritise drivers needs.
🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️
— Kevin Shaw Join a union🌹💉💉😷 (@kevshaw99) October 20, 2021
Over on our Facebook, David Kelly was keen to have a pop at every council everywhere.
“What do you expect? It’s a Council FGS.. I’ve yet to hear any good reports about any. Ours are just as useless..” Someone’s bin didn’t get collected…
20 October 2021, 08:03
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If the police are overwhelmed with evidence showing dangerous driving, then that shows that the dangerous driving is endemic: the graveyards and hospitals are full of the victims. If it is endemic, then one of two things must be true, or both: the detection rate is not high enough, and/or the punishment is not sufficient to deter. So in this case, we have the victims providing the evidence, in most cases all the officers need to do is view that evidence. If the officers don't have time, then the process should be automated, possibly by AI. If the driver disputes it, then a real person could view it, but if they consider the driving to be dangerous, the driver should pay for the officer's time. Then we have the lack of punishment, or punishment which doesn't fit the crime, because it does not deter people from offending. The current system of points and fines is clearly not working, and something rather more effective has to be done, like confiscating the car for instance. ".......the Chief Inspector recommended that road users use a rear-facing camera and evidence their own speed at the time of the overtake." I fail to see what the speed of the vehicle being overtaken has to do with the overtaking vehicle passing too closely. Would it be ok if you were doing 5mph, or 25mph? Baffling.
In principal, driverless cars have the potential to be much safer than human drivers, by virtue of the fact that they should be intent on following the rules of the road, nor driving whilst drunk/drugged, never be tired, frustrated, irrational etc, etc. Another advantage is that mistakes can be corrected and rolled out across the entire fleet (try that with humans. Add to that the resulting reduction in car ownership, increased car sharing, and the sheer amount of street space given over to parked cars will plummet. The key factor, however, is how much of those principles the owning companies are prepared to commit to. (Altruism isn't their strong point)
I'm going to take a close look at some of the lights mentioned. For reference: I extensively used the following: - Nightrider lumina (don't recall the exact model): horrible temperature control and after 18 months it bricked up on me and they refused to honour the warranty, will never buy anything from them ever again; - Lezyne 1600 XXL, two issues, firstly the strap that attached it to the handlebar never kept in place really well over rough terrain. Secondly: a cop stopped me and although -to me riding the bike- it appeared well adjusted, he claimed I was blinding oncoming traffic. He actually held the bike so I could check for myself from inside his car and he was simply right: the light level on the ground was ok but indeed, I was blinding oncoming traffic. That's a hard no, it had to go even though he didn't fine me. I don't want to annoy/be a risk to other road users; - Then the Lupine: solid as a rock, mounted on a GoPro mount, USB-C charging, StVZO compliant...but alas not enough oomph considering terrain and desired speed; Thinking back, it somehow seems like a light I had on my bike back when I was riding long distance events (Audax, crazy distances but lower average speeds) might have been ideal, that was a Son Edelux and it ran on a Son hub dynamo. But I don't want to install a dynamo and again, lower speeds.
Well that all blew up quickly! A pause to savour: "cyclists have a dislike for linguistic accuracy and authentic meaning." Apparently it's something to do with the cyclic muscle movements - ah, no, that would affect runners and rowers also. Circular motion of the limbs?
@mattw Yeah, and Oxford Street will be full of unicorns and rainbows by then as well. 🤣
@stulemanski Actually I think they do, as long as there is good behaviour. Complete cycle bans are vanishingly rare in the Netherlands, which is the best comparison. In 10-20 years time there will be a mobility track, and there will be no real problems.
@Rendel Harris That assumes training, expertise, and the time to do a proper job including full consultation. This does not happen, and then rapid assumptions are made based on "me". That also happens with cycling groups who campaign for something and completely ignore eg tricycles or other varieties of vehicle, in favour of standard cycles. Both lived experience and professional experience are essential. This week I have been looking at a brand new £50k 3m-wide path upgrade in my local Green Flag Park, where the Council have spent perhaps £3k installing a 3 ply chicane with 1.5m gaps and 1.5m spacing between barriers at one end of it. The path also includes a 1-in-9 30m long hill. I have since been talking to a lady who is a wheelchair user and has a fully-trained assistance dog which walks alongside, who is thereby prevented from entering the park she pays for with her Council Tax. Those dimensions are unusable for most small mobility scooters, never mind other mobility aid users, and are flat out unlawful, and not in accordance with several sets of Government Guidelines. Yet when I complain I expect to be stonewalled to the door of the Court in the hope that I will get exhausted and go away. At the door of the Court they usually capitulate, and will have spent 7-10k on legal letters and compensation and doing what they should have done at the start. That £3k could have been spent sorting out perhaps 10 other anti-disabled barriers around our Green Flag Parks. Every complaint so far I have made has been met with "Does Not Meet Threshold for Action".
@flowboy I'm not sure what your point is, FB. Unforfunately, in a world of insufficient resources and gutted Councils with no expertise (for example the near-vanishing of Accessibility Officers) due mainly to available resources being halved since 2010, the only things that will get a response are likely to be details supported by a credible threat of legal action. That's how it is. Even then they often rely on obfuscation via complaints procedures that can take 12 months and have no teeth.
@flowboy I'm not sure what your point is, FB. Unforfunately, in a world of insufficient resources and gutted Councils with no expertise (for example the near-vanishing of Accessibility Officers) due mainly to available resources being halved since 2010, the only things that will get a response are likely to be details supported by a credible threat of legal action. That's how it is. Even then they often rely on obfuscation via complaints procedures that can take 12 months and have no teeth.
@Rendel Harris I have recently come out. I have been called a lot worse. Sticks and stones. So are you saying I cannot call people like myself names? If a call myself and people like me, a ‘homophobic slur’ are you going to get the nasty words police on to me? If you are straight, then your opinions and fake anger mean nothing. Unless you are gay, you are clueless. So stop getting all worked up about a name. I can cope with it. If you can’t, it’s on you.
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People have got a point about
People have got a point about lycra and ballet shoes, i regularly do50-100 mile rides, and manage comfortably in normal looking clothing ?♂️
Good for you. I prefer to do
Good for you. I prefer to do it a bit quicker even more comfortably so wear clothing to facilitate that.
? Quicker than me you mean?
? Quicker than me you mean? Might be time for some silly commuter racing!
Not that either of us are silly, and I’m not a commuter
I like bikes wrote:
I don’t understand that point at all.
There’s plenty of different activities that sometimes require specialist clothing (e.g. kayaking and buoyancy jacket; swimming and speedos; cricket etc) and yes, you don’t necessarily need to wear cycle specific clothing – it’s just more comfortable for most people.
hawkinspeter wrote:
I don’t understand that point at all.
There’s plenty of different activities that sometimes require specialist clothing (e.g. kayaking and buoyancy jacket; swimming and speedos; cricket etc) and yes, you don’t necessarily need to wear cycle specific clothing – it’s just more comfortable for most people.— I like bikes
There’s a whole fashion sector now called athleisure – half the mothers dropping off at my kids’ school are wearing lycra leggings; some of them will be on their way to a keep fit class of some sort, but many won’t. Yet no-one complains about lycra then. But suddently when someone wears it on a bike it’s a point to ridicule. As I pointed out on the Ned Boulting thread, the Times sports journalist Elizabeth Ammon was at it on twitter the other day too. It’s ridiculous. (a) what’s wrong with wearing clothing designed for the activity you are undertaking and anyway (b) who gives a toss what other people wear.
Steve K wrote:
Without wanting to appear in any way sexist … could it be that the kind of people who complain about cyclists in lycra have no problem with how mums on the school run look in yoga pants, but don’t feel the same way about middle aged blokes in cycling shorts.
Just a thought.
Jetmans Dad wrote:
it’s not even running
As an oldie in lycra, all I
As an oldie in lycra, all I can say is that if it is about aesthetic considerations, why don’t they complain about older woman in bathing costumes swimming in the sea? Exactly the same: wear correct comfortable clothing for your chosen sport and bollox to anyone else. OK, if your shorts are so worn that they are basically transparente and your arse is hanging out they may have a point, otherwise they should shutting up.
Steve K wrote:
If you are running a sweepstake on how many can I take 5% to 10%
What actually is “the point”
What actually is “the point” about lycra (and ballet?) shoes? Some cyclists wear lycra, and, … and what?
They do look ridiculous
They do look ridiculous though
The people ? The shoes? The
The people ? The shoes? The clothing?
Any other sports you judge people on for their attire ?
Lots of people look
Lots of people look ridiculous, until you realise it’s your own prejudices that are ridiculous.
Mungecrundle wrote:
I’m not convinced on that pair of shoes for cycling with though. Probably fine for pootling around, but the stack height would throw off your bike’s geometry a bit.
I hear he’s a bit of a demon
I hear he’s a bit of a demon (mountain) biker although at least for MTB I think he wears flatter shoes.
What has The Rules got to say about stockings though?
chrisonatrike wrote:
I think stockings would be banned by UCI just on height alone.
I like his comment on gravel bikes being the Lib Dems of cycling.
hawkinspeter wrote:
But you could raise the saddle to compensate
Are the cleats embedded into the sole to make them more practical? or is that why the sole is so thick?
Mungecrundle wrote:
I’m not convinced it’s my prejudice that’s making Mr Perry look ridiculous. 😀
FrankH wrote:
Grayson doesn’t look ridiculous. He looks fabulous!
I like bikes wrote:
You look ridiculous
hawkinspeter wrote:
You look ridiculous— I like bikes
y’mum
Captain Badger wrote:
Your mum’s so dumb that she bought paper and scissors to make a stationary bike
hawkinspeter wrote:
STATIONERY
Captain Badger wrote:
Your mum’s so dumb that she used Zermelo-Fraenkel and Choice axioms to make a sett.
hawkinspeter wrote:
I had to google that…
brooksby wrote:
This website is getting so highbrow nowadays!
brooksby wrote:
I haven’t yet – is it safe for a work laptop?
Captain Badger wrote:
Depends how much you compartmentalise your life.
hawkinspeter wrote:
I’m sure Boo will be along shortly to help you both with etiquette.
never mind
Interesting that comments about a man’s weight are considered banter but comments about a woman’s weight would be too personal and therefore not humour. I’m sure this has nothing to do with the problem of mens mental health. The fact that men have no grounds for complaint about behavour that could well be considered bullying, because it’s all just banter.
Captain Badger wrote:
Ya Mama! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnCeZY6nxjQ
chrisonatrike wrote:
I’ve recently been rediscovering my love of A Tribe Called Quest – maybe I should branch out into a bit of Pharcyde too.
Enjoy! Also picked up the
Enjoy! Also picked up the Quest again last year. I started out on Kool Keith and Saul Williams so I’m kinda branching back in…
Your mum looks ridiculous x
Your mum looks ridiculous x
I like bikes wrote:
If people are arguing against cycling on the basis of what some people who cycle look like, they’ve lost the argument as well as any moral high ground they imagine they may hold.
In other instances, that constitutes hate crime.
I like bikes wrote:
I don’t know about you or who ‘they’ are but I look fabulous in lycra. If you’ve got it flaunt it I say, all 5’6″ and 71kgs of my 45 year old self.
Seeing as I’m on a theme here
Seeing as I’m on a theme here:
https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/754/244/034.jpg
I’ve climbed some of the
I’ve climbed (walking) some of the highest hills in England in jeans and trainers and managed quite comfortably. It would take quite some ego to state that meant other people were wrong to wear hiking boots.
Good for you. I on the other
Good for you. I on the other hand find it much more comfortable riding, especially long distances, in lycra cycling shorts.
Should drivers only be allowed to drive normal looking cars on roads? I mean 4×4’s are not designed to go on roads, they are designed by their nature to go offroad, and look different to the “normal looking cars” on the road
TriTaxMan wrote:
Yes.
I wear lycra because I was
I wear lycra because I was fed up with my trousers wearing through. Then there is the problem of getting your clothes in the chain or oil on them.
I used toeclips from the age of about 11 then I swapped to spd when they came in, as I always hated the idea of my foot slipping off the pedal under load.
Do you also question runners for wearing trail shoes and pronation specific ones and technical tops and shorts ?
Ballet shoes would be really
Ballet shoes would be really really rubbish to cycle in.
Steve K wrote:
Ooh – challenge! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGu-d2MjAzs
I’d be more concerned about crotch reinforcement there though.
I must show that to my
I must show that to my (ballet dancing) daughter.
Steve K wrote:
She was very impressed.
You see, that is just wrong.
You see, that is just wrong. Riding a Fixie without a beard is illegal.
That option is available:
That option is available:
Steve K wrote:
unless you cycled standing up on the tips of your toes, would work a treat then. Mind you, one would have to be careful of the flappy ribbons they use instead of laces. A lick of gaffer tape should sort that out though.
I like bikes wrote:
In all fairness to the poster in the blog they said “tap dancing shoes”, which I can kind of see. Let’s be honest – they are vaguely impractical, as anyone who wears them (me included) will attest to… off the bike you look like a duck that’s just landed on a frozen lake
It’s up to each individual as to what they wear, but I do enjoy the banter with this kind of thing – I’d be a bit of a hypocrite otherwise, as would many others here. Where would society be – for example – if we couldn’t ask fat guys when their baby is due? It’s all part and parcel of life.
“if we couldn’t ask fat guys
“if we couldn’t ask fat guys when their baby is due?”
Hilarious, especially if the poor bloke you are taking the piss out of has a serious medical condition.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-58890914
Nigel Garage wrote:
Ah I love the smell of hypocrisy at lunchtime!
Oh come on! There’s a
Oh come on! There’s a difference between abuse and some light-hearted mutual banter to lift the mood on a gloomy day. I may even allow a retort about my worryingly receding hairline.
Nigel Garage wrote:
Ah, “only banter” – the cry of the humourless and ill-mannered from time immemorial.
Nigel Garage wrote:
When is calling an overweight man pregnant abuse, and when is it light hearted banter? I used to think that your stand on courtesy and politeness was the one principle you actually believed in, as opposed to the obvious trolling, but this comment confirms it is trolls all the way down….
The point is that facts
The point is that facts should come before people’s feelings, politeness notwithstanding. And let’s be honest, there’s those of us who eat healthily and look after ourselves, and then there’s others who spend too long in the cream cake aisle in Morrisons, or enjoy the odd double quarter pounder.
Now I’m no psychologist, but I believe that a bit of rib-ticklingly funny banter with friends about weight is a far less harmful to someone’s health than either allowing them to go on eating and suffer the consequences, or tell them straight up and upset their feelings. I wouldn’t do the same to a woman (and here I’m defining the word “woman” as someone born as a female), because statistically they have a lower chance of having health-related heart problems.
Wow, you really are a nasty
Wow, you really are a nasty piece of work, aren’t you? Overeating can stem from a panoply of causes, many of them mental health related: people who were abused as children are statistically significantly more likely to be obese, for example. Many people suffer weight gain as a result of medical problems: some years ago a combination of chemotherapy drugs and steroids (plus the fact I was too ill to ride) made me balloon to fifteen stone, even though I put myself on a strict 1200 calorie a day diet. It made me as depressed as I’ve ever been in my life (and I’m usually quite a cheery sort of cove), knowing that people like you would be looking at me and assuming that meant I was one of those “who spend too long in the cream cake aisle in Morrisons, or enjoy the odd double quarter pounder.” Your attitude is pure poison and you should be ashamed of yourself.
Talking of nasty pieces of
Talking of nasty pieces of work, you appear to have put a load of words down that I didn’t actually write in a vain attempt to be magnanimous. I did laugh at the “cheery sort of cove” label that you awarded yourself. Anyway, as always, when people get personal I withdraw from the conversation. So have a great evening.
Nigel Garage wrote:
“Magnanimous”? Oh dear, ignorant of the meaning of language on top of everything else.
Yes, you withdraw because people get personal…and toddle off and insult overweight men by asking when the baby’s due, that’s not personal.
You did promise months ago that you were leaving this site – you remember, it was just before you changed your username three times and then got banned? – it really is time for you to make good on that, you stink up the joint.
https://www.merriam-webster
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/magnanimous – you’re welcome, no apology needed. Of course, as per usual the mask slipped pretty quickly.
And no apology will you get,
And no apology will you get, given that magnanimous does not have the meaning you are claiming for it in British English, which is why you’ve had to, rather desperately, resort to citing a US dictionary.
Bye
Bye
https://www.healthline.com
https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/fat-shaming-makes-things-worse
Nigel Garage wrote:
until the banter hurts their feelings..or is that covered by your facts before feelings comments and unless of course you’re a woman in which no comments at all are appropriate.
Nigel Garage wrote:
It might be light hearted banter to you but not to your victim and will more than likely have an affect on that persons mental health. Banter, a thinly disguised term for abuse aimed at people who don’t fit your ideal.
Careful Nigel – bit of a
Careful Nigel – bit of a minefield here even for someone with your tactfulness! It might not be such bantz with fat women and it’s possible to be mistaken.
chrisonatrike wrote:
For the record, I’d never ask a woman when her baby is due or anything to do with weight because that falls outside the realms of humour and becomes personal.
Or a man with long hair. Just in case.
Nigel Garage wrote:
Careful Nigel – bit of a minefield here even for someone with your tactfulness! It might not be such bantz with fat women and it’s possible to be mistaken.
— Nigel Garage For the record, I’d never ask a woman when her baby is due or anything to do with weight because that falls outside the realms of humour and becomes personal. Or a man with long hair. Just in case.— chrisonatrike
I am decades behind the now but I understand it is not even that simple:
https://www.pride.com/entertainment/2018/3/22/11-drag-kings-you-should-definitely-know-about
I may have broader tastes than you though since I ride both ways – upright and ‘bent. I’ve nothing against tandems, penny farthings or tricycles either. Those unicyclists though…
chrisonatrike wrote:
The difference between a bicyclist and a unicyclist is just attire.
hawkinspeter wrote:
I find them unbalanced myself. Can agree that “two wheels” is a bicycle however you frame it?
chrisonatrike wrote:
I blame inclusivity, these bikesexuals now think they can flaunt their desire to ride anything they see in front of everyone. It’s quite disturbing.
Nigel Garage wrote:
Careful Nigel – bit of a minefield here even for someone with your tactfulness! It might not be such bantz with fat women and it’s possible to be mistaken.
— Nigel Garage For the record, I’d never ask a woman when her baby is due or anything to do with weight because that falls outside the realms of humour and becomes personal. Or a man with long hair. Just in case.— chrisonatrike
but ok to ask a man about his weight or joke about it?
Nigel Garage wrote:
Is this an example of your oft-boasted-self-promoted “courtesy” – being rude to other people because of their weight? Classy.
Rendel Harris wrote:
As a resident fat lad, I’m certain Boo wouldn’t comment on peoples weight, the likelyhood of a knuckle sandwich as a responce would terrify him.
Nigel Garage wrote:
Surely nobody’s ever accused you of that!
Edit: I see Stomec has?
Maybe it’s normal clothing
Maybe it’s normal clothing that needs a rethink. I mean, what is it about a shirt and trousers that’s so optimal for office based work for example? Surely a onesie with a giant bum pad would be better for sitting on your backside all day??
After 18 months of home
After 18 months of home working I can neither confirm nor deny this.
HoarseMann wrote:
D’you know, after sitting on a less than ideal chair working from home (including today) for the best (or worst) part of two years, I’ve never once thought of wearing padded shorts! Might give it a try!
I like bikes wrote:
It was tap dancing shoes aksherly.
Anyway, as others have said: what’s wrong with wearing appropriate clothing for the activity?
A hard hat and hi-viz to work on a building site
Running shoes and shorts to go jogging
I could go on.
The last person to comment on
The last person to comment on my cycling attire (whilst I was actually – err – cycling) was wearing an American football top and a baseball cap.
I did consider asking when they last (or ever) participated in either of those two sports, but thought it best to not make their head explode
I once had a discussion with
I once had a discussion with a bloke in a pub about wearing lycra, he ridiculed it. He was there to watch football while wearing a replica football club shirt.
Kapelmuur wrote:
I’ve got severa cycling top versions of football shirts. They’ll just blow your mind!
I make sure I only wear my
I make sure I only wear my Bruichladdich jersey when I plan on cycling and drinking.
I’ve only found two things
I’ve only found two things whilst cycling on the roads:
Pot holes and arse holes ?
That Medellin run.
That Medellin run.
Quote:
Er, really not. More likely to scare me off them for life.
That MTB run, wow, I’m
That MTB run, wow, I’m tasting hospital food just watching!! Respect to the riders.
RE Nigeria will be the envy
RE Nigeria will be the envy of everyone at the UCI Track Cycling World Championships – I hope they’re fast otherwise they’re likely to be driven over by cars.
That kit looks like the
That kit looks like the wrappers of those chewy mints you could buy back in the seventies…
Found it!
Found it!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacers_(confectionery)
And it was the sweets that looked like that, apparently…
They’d be well camouflaged
They’d be well camouflaged cycling in that lane.
Picky, but
Picky, but
It would have been OK if they were insured?
mdavidford wrote:
No, but drawing attention to yourself when you are already commiting a crime is very foolish. It’s amazin how many other offences the police uncover due to traffic stops. You’d think if crimanals are driving cars containing damning evidence (look a boot full of drugs) they would take pains to ensure their driving was unlikely to draw attention.
But then I guess the jails are full of stupid criminals, and the smart ones don’t get caught.
wycombewheeler wrote:
Not necessarily. Part of the reason they’re happy to drive around without insurance or with a boot full of drugs is probably due to an assumption that there won’t be anyone around to catch them in the first place. The same assumption then applies to driving in the cycle lane, at 1.5x the speed limit, etc.
And the sad part is that in the large majority of cases, they’re probably right to assume that.
Sorry Nairo, that
Sorry Nairo, that generational ship has sailed. That applies to you Chris too.
Ealing Council
Ealing Council?