— Bikery (@Bikery1966) September 12, 2023
Bikery told us this happened near the the Royal Armoured Corp Bovington Tank Range in Dorset... and it's not the first time...
Given their proximity to the range, "We've been passed by them a few times while riding in the area over the years. It's always a laugh!"
"The instructors seem to love it as it puts the trainee drivers under pressure, they always give you a smile and a wave or thumbs up. I can imagine seeing dozens of them coming towards you is pretty scary unless you have an anti-tank weapon!"
Tanks on the road also produces some "interesting driver psychology", Bikery told us, as they've seen "several drivers wait at give ways for the tanks to pass when there was time to pull out leading to them being stuck behind the tank doing 30mph in a 60 limit".
'What's the largest military vehicle you've safely been overtaken by?'
I can't keep up (and I've already used the 'not another one' GIF)... yet another new release. The poor tech team are going to need to lie down in a dark room this weekend.
"I think Sepp Kuss has just won this Vuelta!"
Roglic and Vingegaard help teammate Kuss get over the line today 🤝
— Eurosport (@eurosport) September 14, 2023
"The guys did a really great job, pulling the whole day, on the last two laps of this finishing climb Jan [Tratnik] was riding super for us and then Jonas did a really good pace from the bottom. I was a bit scared because he's so strong... his pace isn't always the easiest, he rode super for me and we rode a more defensive tactic. We all agreed as a team and us three before the Angliru stage and then there was what strategy we wanted to follow after that stage. It's always changing and there are always mistakes here and there but that's human nature.
"It's getting closer [Vuelta victory], tomorrow is easier but you have to stay focused and stage 20 will be really long and hard. We're out of the big mountains but there are always tough ones."
[Luis Angel Gomez/SprintCyclingAgency©2023]
"Everyone could see it was about protecting Sepp [...] there's a really hard stage Saturday so we have to be careful, we have to keep fighting until Madrid. It's nice to be able to pay him back, to do something for Sepp that he's done for me and Primož. Obviously I wanted to pay him back today and on Saturday, it's a very tough, very long stage so we have to be careful."
Well, well, well, it appears someone at Jumbo-Visma has pulled rank and got everyone working towards one goal — namely, current red jersey and mountain domestique extraordinaire Sepp Kuss holding the jersey until Madrid. Incredible to see the power of a road.cc live blog poll...
The scenes on today's final climb were what many had hoped to see yesterday: two-time Tour de France winner Jonas Vingegaard and quadruple Grand Tour victor Primož Roglič, all of their six Grand Tours supported by Kuss' assistance, doing the work to support their American teammate have his own day in the Spanish sun.
It would be a stretch to say the mood at the finish was celebratory, Kuss thanking his new super domestiques before wheeling off for the podium ceremony, however the discipline on the climb was perfect — Vingegaard pacing, Roglič sitting in and refusing to attack.
Up the road, Remco Evenpoel took his third stage win of the race, breakaway companion Damiano Caruso saying it was "like following a scooter". By the finish the Belgian's winning majority was 4:44, surely the largest Grand Tour stage-winning margain we've seen in a considerable length of time.
Remco Evenepoel claims today's stage in Spain! 👏
— Eurosport (@eurosport) September 14, 2023
— Harry Low (@HarryLow49) September 14, 2023
Top marks to whoever wrote '(gone)' on that 'road closed' sign. Slightly surprised we didn't get a 'cyclists dismount' sign too. Oh well...
This is Eltham in south east London where a sinkhole the size of a car has appeared, taking a cycle lane with it. It emerged on Monday morning on Dunvegan Road, leaving the council to investigate its cause.
"We were notified of a sinkhole in Dunvegan Road by the London fire brigade on Monday, September 11. Our investigations are ongoing to determine the cause and develop next steps," a spokesperson said.
"Until then, the area will remain closed off and reassurance visits will be taking place with neighbouring businesses. The road is expected to be closed for at least a few weeks and diversions will be in place."
Poor Mick Bennett finally getting some good news to talk about. After a week of responding to critics of his Tour of Britain route and explaining the pretty grim picture of putting a bike race on in Britain at the minute, he's got something more positive...
Speaking to the Radio Cycling podcast, he confirmed "we have applied for those dates" in relation to both the Tour of Britain and Women's Tour in 2024. "We've already got a number of venues that are signed up for it," he added.
[Luis Angel Gomez/SprintCyclingAgency©2023/ASO]
Geraint Thomas has spoken about the Sepp Kuss, Jumbo-Visma situation at the Vuelta. Here's what he told the TV cameras at the start of today's stage...
"Initially I think if it's obvious that the leader from the start is stronger then they should have the opportunity to race for the win. But, looking at this race, looking at yesterday I don't think there is such a big difference. The fact Kuss only got distanced 1km from the top of such a hard climb at the end of such a hard race, I feel like that's slightly different to a big gap.
"There shouldn't be any gifts in a Grand Tour win. It's one thing giving a stage but I don't think just because someone's worked for you for years you need to let them win, but I don't think that's the case anyway. He's good enough to be in the position he's in... and that's the funny thing, they played that card [earlier in the race to get Kuss in the lead], they rode super hard that day to get a gap and now they're changing their mind.
"I feel for Kuss, he deserves a bit more respect, not necessarily from the riders, from the team. The team should be stronger with that [...] it was three of them, no other tactics came into play. If it was close for the podium, that's pretty much sewn up. Roglič isn't going to win this Vuelta so there was no real need for him to carry on and gain those extra seconds. He still could have won the stage and his position in third is still solid so he could have slowed up a bit."
We'll be back with a fresh pod tonight. Wonder what will be first on the agenda... 🍿 pic.twitter.com/dawmTh4c21
— Watts Occurring (@Watts_Occurring) September 14, 2023
All in their prime, who wins?
'IT Crowd are upping the pace here on the final climb, Froome looks in trouble, Roglič is dropped... here comes Vingegaard on the attack, Ayoade glued to his back wheel..."
Reading Borough Council is searching for an alternative venue for its town centre cycle hub plan — a facility with 82 secure bicycle spaces, plus maintenance space and bike loan service — after Primark pulled of an agreement to lease one of its vacant units.
The BBC reports that the council has asked for a full explanation after the retailer pulled out of the agreement to lease its former store in West Street for the facility, Primark saying it was due to a "change in circumstances".
Funding for the project is to come from the Department for Transport's Cabability Fund, and would amount to £249,454.
"Reading is really important to us, and we're committed to continuing to play an active role within the community and to supporting the town. We hope the cycle hub finds a suitable home soon," Primark said.
Councillor John Ennis said: "This is obviously hugely disappointing news for the council and Reading's cycle community having invested so much time and energy in this particular location for a cycle hub."
'Ooh maybe I'll check in with the poll to see how... it's... going... ah...'
Loads of news and releases to keep the tech team busy this week. I'm sure you've seen most of it already, but here's a handy round-up of it all in one place just to be sure...
That release came on the same day that Wahoo unveiled its new £1,400 Kickr trainer with "the closest real-world ride-feel" thanks to the addition of fore/aft movement. In short, it makes it act a little bit like a trainer on a rocker plate. As you alter your power, get in/out of the saddle, or readjust your position, the trainer is designed to move forward and backward with you.
Oh, and if you are tempted to take your training indoors now the evenings aren't quite as long and enticing as they were a couple of months ago, Zwift's Watopia might be your destination of choice.
The indoor cycling giant has announced a host of new features coming to its virtual world in the upcoming months. These include an expansion to Watopia and the return of the experimental gamified racing experience Tour of Watopia, plus Climb Portal difficulty scaling and much more.
Fulcrum has some new wheels out, the "versatile and comfortable" Wind 42 and 57 carbon wheels for "road and light off-road riding", if you've got £1,250 knocking about for an upgrade.
And there's a new Liv endurance bike, with the announcement last night of the fifth generation of the Avail. More aero, lighter, 38mm tyre clearance... all the good stuff.
And for a sneak peak at some of the things we're currently reviewing, check out the latest edition of 'Five cool things', this week featuring the Garmin Edge 840 Solar cycling computer, plus stuff from Suunto, DJI, Tozo and more...
While the poll results roll in, here are some of your thoughts...
kil0ran: "Kuss treatment is appalling. He clearly had a brief moment where he couldn't follow which subsequently he overcame because he was able to latch on to Landa's wheel. Landa did the job Primoz and Jonas should have done. Given that Bahrain Victorious were on the front for the early ramps — with Kuss right behind once Valter and Van Baarle popped — they effectively kept Sepp in red today, not Jumbo.
"It's a betrayal and brutal shameful behaviour. It's particularly hard to watch because until this race I've been a fan of Primoz and Jonas — even as a G fan I was delighted to see Primoz' redemption at the Giro. I'm not a fan of UAE as a team but I hope they flash some greenwashed green and bring Kuss in to support Pogacar next year. Revenge will be best served on the slopes of L'Alpe and Stelvio."
Tell us how you really feel!
henryb: "Roglič and Vingegaard saying that they 'want' Kuss to win the Vuelta is a bit disingenuous when it is in fact their choice whether they give him the support he needs (and which every Grand Tour winner needs) to win. If Kuss doesn't win the Vuelta, how hollow it will sound when Roglič or Vingegaard say: 'Well, we wanted him to win, we really did...'."
A ray of hope from Rendel Harris? "I am possibly being naive here, but isn't it feasible that Jumbo Visma are playing a more subtle game than they are being given credit for, bringing their two superstars up as close to Kuss as they possibly can without overtaking him so that if he cracks today either Roglič or Vinegaard will be as far as possible ahead of potential challengers, and to keep them away from the JV podium shutout?
"If Vinegaard really had designs on the jersey why would he not have gone full gas in the final yesterday when on current form he could've easily picked up the nine seconds needed for it, especially if he had outsprinted Roglic for the ten seconds line bonus instead of the six he got?
"Like the majority of fans, I would love to see Kuss take a GT and I will be as loud as anybody in my condemnation of his teammates if they do the dirty on him, but until I see one of them deliberately seize the jersey, rather than putting more time into their rivals lower down the rankings without displacing Kuss, I'm going to withhold judgement.
"Of course, depending on what happens today, this comment may age very badly!"
The fallout from the Angliru stage rumbles on this morning, seemingly most of the cycling world despairing for Sepp Kuss' slip backwards towards, not rival teams baying for blood but instead... his own teammates... on his birthday too.
As we included in yesterday's post-stage live blog debrief, both Primoz Roglič and Jonas Vingegaard have said they want Kuss to win the Vuelta. Those comments coming not long after they had left him in the final stretches of the climb, rather than offering support like the American has to them on countless occasions. And while, yes, Kuss had told them to go, the images haven't sat well with many cycling fans and former pro riders...
David Millar said: "I just don't understand why they wouldn't wait. I've watched Sepp ride for them countless times while commentating these past years, I'm a huge fan of his. He's class. I didn't enjoy watching that today, and I love bike racing."
Honest question. Do you want the weakest of the three to win? Is it not elite sports? I understand the feelings behind your statement, but to me that is just turning the race into a reality show where the winner is chosen based on past merits.
— FAUSTO (@Faust0w) September 13, 2023
"In Grand Tours the leaders rely on their team mates to get them through the days they're weak," Millar replied. "That's Sepp's job. Tables have turned here. I like the idea that sport isn't all rational number crunching, that occasionally emotional decisions win over. They're the greatest stories, and the reason sport can be so life affirming. Today was not life-affirming, it was quite miserable in fact, when it so easily could have been wonderful."
This was the post-stage discussion on GCN, Sean Kelly saying he thinks it's "unfair":
"I think it's unfair. The way Kuss has been so loyal to those two riders over many years."
— Eurosport (@eurosport) September 13, 2023
Anyone got a case for the defence?
End of the day, the debate about whether Roglic or Vingegaard should win the Vuelta GC rather than Kuss comes down to whether one thinks that, in sport, winning is the only thing that matters versus how one views concepts like sportsmanship, reward, and loyalty #LaVuelta23 pic.twitter.com/qi6m5wsotN
— Neal Rogers 🇺🇦 (@nealrogers) September 13, 2023
Unpopular take incoming: what makes Sepp such an exceptional domestique is the very reason he could lose red to a team mate. His smiles post-stage seemed genuine. It takes a ruthless hunger to win a Grand Tour. Is it the others’ fault, or even his, if he doesn’t have that?
— Orla Chennaoui (@SportsOrla) September 13, 2023
With another big mountain stage, the last challenging one before Madrid (after this we've got two sprints and a relentlessly punchy medium mountain 208km world champs-style stage) today could be decisive... I'd love to know what the rest of Jumbo's domestiques and staff think about the whole situation...
Anyway, get your thoughts in the comments. Are we all far too romantic? Should Jumbo-Visma let their best man win? Do you want to see Roglič and Vingegaard let one of their most reliable teammates have his day in the sun?
Dan joined road.cc in 2020, and spent most of his first year (hopefully) keeping you entertained on the live blog. At the start of 2022 he took on the role of news editor. Before joining road.cc, Dan wrote about various sports, including football and boxing for the Daily Express, and covered the weird and wonderful world of non-league football for The Non-League Paper. Part of the generation inspired by the 2012 Olympics, Dan has been 'enjoying' life on two wheels ever since and spends his weekends making bonk-induced trips to the petrol stations of the south of England.