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Fabio Jakobsen heading home to Netherlands tomorrow after horror crash; Cyclists “not all Lycra louts” says Boris Johnson; Biden questioned over helmetless ride; Anger over traps laid for cyclists + more on the live blog

Welcome to Tuesday’s live blog, with Jack Sexty at the controls and Simon MacMichael taking over later this evening.
  • by Jack Sexty
Tue, Aug 11, 2020 08:52
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SUMMARY

  • Police appeal after Aberdeenshire cyclist was fatally struck by a lorry driver
  • First cars... now it's bins blocking the cycle lane
  • "Build it and they will come": Transport Minister promises changes as survey reveals two thirds of adults in England think cycling is dangerous
  • "That is attempted manslaughter": Anger over vicious traps allegedly left out for mountain bikers on private land
  • You had one job, roundabout edition
  • Tandem cyclists (including one who has recently recovered from coronavirus) break 32-year-old Edinburgh to London record
  • Helmet row, presidential election edition: Joe Biden spotted out for a ride... but attracts negative comments because he's not wearing a helmet
  • Richmond Park partially reopens to traffic
  • Brian Cookson calls for next British Cycling CEO to have "detailed knowledge" as Julie Harrington departs
  • New 500 mile cycling network planned for the West Midlands
  • Free 'socially distant' one-to-one cycle training offered in West Yorkshire
  • Boris Johnson says "not all cyclists are Lycra louts" as he announces £2 million cycling and walking boost in Hereford
  • Fabio Jakobsen allowed to return home after condition improves
  • Not everyone is sold on Boris Johnson's comments
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11 August 2020, 08:52

Police appeal after Aberdeenshire cyclist was fatally struck by a lorry driver

rikki gault - via police scotland
rikki gault - via police scotland (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
rikki gault - via police scotland
rikki gault – via police scotland (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Police Scotland are appealing for witnesses after 30-year-old Rikki Gault was killed following a collision with a lorry on Low Street in Banff, Aberdeenshire on Fridya 7th August. Mr Gault died in hospital after suffering serious injuries. 

Police Scotland said: “Rikki’s family have requested privacy at this time however wished it known that “Rikki lived life to the full and will be sorely missed”.

“A report will be sent to the Procurator Fiscal.

“Low Street was closed for around eight hours to allow for collision investigation work.

“Anyone who witnessed the crash or has seen either the lorry or the cyclist prior to the crash is asked to contact police on 101 quoting incident 2066 of 7 August, 2020.”

11 August 2020, 08:52

First cars... now it's bins blocking the cycle lane

Single family zoned housing giving a big FU to cyclists pic.twitter.com/zgmWqGCkBd

— Joey (she/her) (@JoeyReneeOkay) August 10, 2020

This one comes from the USA, where even slightly attempting to use the bike lane make for a rather interesting obstacle course…

11 August 2020, 08:52

"Build it and they will come": Transport Minister promises changes as survey reveals two thirds of adults in England think cycling is dangerous

London cyclists (coyright britishcycling.org.uk).jpg
London cyclists (coyright britishcycling.org.uk) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
London cyclists (coyright britishcycling.org.uk).jpg
London cyclists (coyright britishcycling.org.uk) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Chris Heaton-Harris, the Minister of State for Transport, has promised to address the public’s safety fears about cycling after the survey in the government’s latest Walking and Cycling statistics document found that 66% of adults in England thought that cycling on the roads was too dangerous; this is up from 61% in the previous year, but Heaton-Harris says that Boris Johnson’s blueprint for “a new golden age for cycling” will be at the forefront of changing this. 

In an interview with The Guardian, Heaton-Harris said: “I know from talking to people, and looking at my very active cycling social media response, that dedicated infrastructure is essential to make people feel safe.

“One of the big parts of this investment is to try and make the streets safer for people to cycle on. I tend to believe that in cycling, it’s very much Kevin Costner, Field of Dreams territory: if you build it, they will come.”

The survey results were compiled before lockdown, and Heaton-Harris said that increases in cycling numbers when roads were quieter shows that “when people feel safe, they cycle.”

He added: “I’d like to think with this investment over the next four or five years, we can actually demonstrate and have the data to prove that when we do the things we’re talking about, we will be able to demonstrate that that has led to way more people cycling. 

“We can also show we are a healthier nation, that air quality has gone up and air pollution goes down, all of these big things lots of people have been campaigning for, are delivered by change in the modal shift towards cycling and walking, And then I think it’ll be a no-brainer for future governments.”

 

11 August 2020, 08:52

"That is attempted manslaughter": Anger over vicious traps allegedly left out for mountain bikers on private land

bike traps in woods kent 2 - via canterbury bike project on facebook
bike traps in woods kent 2 - via canterbury bike project on facebook (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
bike traps in woods kent 2 - via canterbury bike project on facebook
bike traps in woods kent 2 – via canterbury bike project on facebook (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Originally, Kent Online reported that the traps had been laid in King’s Wood, Kent; however posting on Facebook, The Canterbury Bike Project confirmed that the incident took place on private land nearby the public trails, commenting: “This incident has been confirmed to have taken place on private land, and as much as this behaviour is completely wrong we also have to say that trespassing and building trails on private land is also wrong.”

bike traps in woods kent - via canterbury bike project on facebook
bike traps in woods kent - via canterbury bike project on facebook (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
bike traps in woods kent - via canterbury bike project on facebook
bike traps in woods kent – via canterbury bike project on facebook (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Private land or not, it’s clear the traps are deliberately intended to cause harm rather than warn people to stay away, with the both barbed wire and nail traps taking “a lot of thought and preparation” according to Steve Cool, posting on the East Kent Mountain Bike Facebook group. He added: “Stating the obvious here but someone could be seriously maimed or worse on those nails. Unfortunately with the way this has been done, I think there will be more traps set in future. Be safe and keep a lookout.”

Another commented: “Public or private land doesn’t matter, that’s not designed to make people turn around and cycle away, it’s designed to take people by surprise and cause maximum harm.”

It’s understood that the incident has been reported to the police. 

*We’re aware the alleged crime wouldn’t be classed as ‘attempted manslaughter’ if the culprit(s) was charged – this was quoted from a comment on the Canterbury Bike Project Facebook page. 

11 August 2020, 08:52

You had one job, roundabout edition

 
 
 
 
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How continental! #roundbout #roadsignmistakes #givewaytotheleft? #youhadonejob

A post shared by Matt Woolner (@woolymatt) on Aug 11, 2020 at 2:33am PDT

Give way to your left, as the say on the continent. Not in the UK…

11 August 2020, 08:52

Tandem cyclists (including one who has recently recovered from coronavirus) break 32-year-old Edinburgh to London record

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london to edinburgh tandem record - via Mark Bourgeois on facebook (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
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london to edinburgh tandem record – via Mark Bourgeois on facebook (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

It’s now confirmed by the RRA that Doug Hart and Mark Bourgeois of Ilkley Cycling Club have broken the long-standing record, riding the 388 mile journey in a time of 17 hours and 52 minutes. If it’s confirmed, this will take 50 minutes off the previous mark set in 1988.  

The achievement is made all the more impressive given that Mr Bourgeois was in hospital with Covid-19 back in April according to the Ilkley Gazette. Writing on Facebook, he said he was “very happy and just a tad tired” the day after the ride.  
Mr Hart was already an experienced endurance cyclist riding solo and by tandem, having already broken the Edinburgh to York tandem record with fellow Ilkley CC member Jake Unsworth last year. 

The ride has raised plenty of cash for the Shelter From the Storm and LandAid charities so far, with the total at over £13,000 on their JustGiving page – click here to donate. 

11 August 2020, 08:52

Helmet row, presidential election edition: Joe Biden spotted out for a ride... but attracts negative comments because he's not wearing a helmet

Bikers for Biden. pic.twitter.com/DvnimU9NAk

— The Lincoln Project 🏴‍☠️ (@ProjectLincoln) August 8, 2020

You’re most likely aware that Joe Biden is the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee for the upcoming general election in the United States… you might be less aware that he’s partial to a bike ride, and he was collared by Fox News reporter Peter Doocy at the weekend while cycling with friends. 

Doocy asked Biden who his running mate was going to be for the upcoming election, to which Biden replied: “You!”
This delighted most Trump-adverse corners of social media; but others were a little concerned by Biden’s head, or lack of something on it… 

I’m being totally serious. Wear a helmet! In our house, this would lose you scooter/bike privileges for the whole day. Of all the noggins that need protecting at the moment, the 2020 nominee is high on the list.

— Susan Hennessey (@Susan_Hennessey) August 8, 2020

You should always wear a helmet if you’re on a bike.

— TinyRobot (@TinyRobot6) August 8, 2020

Imagine that being your takeaway from this clip.

— Irwin M Fletcher stan account (@vgiglotti) August 9, 2020

Because he is almost certainly on a path where cars are not permitted to travel. Bicycles are not inherently dangerous. It’s the cars that are dangerous.

— Colin Parent (@ColinParent) August 8, 2020

As you can see from this selection of replies, others were less bothered by Biden’s bare head, and more encouraged that the 77-year-old is keeping fit and healthy on two wheels. 

Trump often refers to Biden as “sleepy Joe” on Twitter in reference to his advancing years, and often questions his cognitive abilities too. It seems there’s only one way to settle this election then… 

Trump vs Biden…bike riding contest pic.twitter.com/YZE2rgWwRD

— Sam Zee (@SamZComedy) August 10, 2020

11 August 2020, 08:52

Richmond Park partially reopens to traffic

Our parks are for people, not traffic. A park cannot be both a safe, accessible and enjoyable space for cycling and also a rat run. @theroyalparks must reconsider this reckless and drastic proposal, which is opposed by the vast majority of Londoners https://t.co/6PRbHfq868 https://t.co/hEDbuCrqGB

— London Cycling Campaign (@London_Cycling) August 11, 2020

Back to this👇 #pollution #dangerous #aggression in area heavily populated. Kingston Gate open 7 days/week but other gates like Sheen & Roehampton are no through routes or weekdays only or just to car park @sarahjolney1 @CllrCarolineK @nkforum @NKingstonFocus @KingstonLibDems pic.twitter.com/4GjrepCkcQ

— @friendsofkingstongate (@friendsofkings1) August 11, 2020

The Royal Parks have released a document saying they are conducting “a trial reducing cut-through traffic within Richmond Park”; however this is based on pre-pandemic vehicle access, and many are dismayed that the park wil be reopening to traffic on a well-known ‘rat run’ route from Kingston to Richmond. 

Full story to follow. 

11 August 2020, 08:52

Brian Cookson calls for next British Cycling CEO to have "detailed knowledge" as Julie Harrington departs

Disappointing news, but not surprising. Julie has generally done a good job imho, and I wish her well for the future, but in my opinion it is vital for the next CEO of British Cycling to have detailed knowledge and experience of cycling as well as the right management background. https://t.co/7ccEzUOLBS

— Brian Cookson OBE (@BrianCooksonOBE) August 11, 2020

British Cycling say they are recruiting for “one of the best jobs in British sport”, as Julie Harrington – Chief Executive Officer since 2017 – has announced her departure to take on the CEO role at the British Horseracing Authority in the new year.

The former UCI president Cookson clarified that his criteria was “a tough person specification to fill”, and that he was not being critical of Harrington. 

British Cycling’s Chair Frank Slevin commented: “Julie will leave with the good wishes of the Board and everyone at British Cycling.

“With Julie as Chief Executive Officer, and thanks to a strong leadership team, British Cycling has made great strides towards our ambition of becoming a world-leading governing body.

…“Like any organisation we have our challenges but, with the Prime Minister predicting ‘a golden age for cycling’, this is the best time to be joining British Cycling.”

11 August 2020, 08:52

New 500 mile cycling network planned for the West Midlands

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starley network 2 – via transport for west midlands (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

A vision for the Starley Network – named after the Starley family of Coventry who are considered founding fathers of the modern bicycle  – was unveiled today at the Coventry Transport Museum. 

Transport for West Midlands say that all 493 miles of the proposed network will be dedicated to active travel, on routes that are either segregated from traffic or away from roads entirely. It will pull together “existing routes and towpaths, proposed new cycling infrastructure, and new pop-up lanes funded through the Emergency Active Travel Fund” according to TfWM, and covers most major areas in the West Midlands connurbation including Birmingham, Wolverhampton, Coventry and Dudley. 

Over £260 million will be spent to build the network in the coming years, with highlights including a new cycle route on the A45 Coventry Road in Birmingham, a new cycle hire scheme and a series of routes along the Wednesbury to Brierley Hill Metro tram line. More info including a full map of the proposed routes can be found here. 

11 August 2020, 08:52

Free 'socially distant' one-to-one cycle training offered in West Yorkshire

Leeds pop-up cycle lane (Leeds Council)
Leeds pop-up cycle lane (Leeds Council) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Leeds pop-up cycle lane (Leeds Council)
Leeds pop-up cycle lane (Leeds Council) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

The West Yorkshire Combined Authority have announced that they will offer the free traininf from the front door to help people cycle to work or college in West Yorkshire. It’s being delivered as part of the West Yorkshire Combined Authority’s CityConnect programme, which aims to enable more people to travel by bike and on foot. 

The sessions will cover journey planning, cycling in traffic, tackling busy junctions and roundabouts, and will be led by qualified instructors on routes chosen by the participant. 

Councillor Kim Groves commented: “Two thirds of journeys in our region are less than five miles, which takes about 30-minutes by bike. 

“To date, more than 1,860 people have benefitted from the Combined Authority’s free adult cycle training scheme, with nearly 60% of attendees cycling more often as a result.

“Enabling increasing numbers of us to travel by bike and on foot is more important than ever, not only as we look to address the health, transport and economic challenges created by the COVID-19 pandemic, but also in helping us achieve our aim of becoming a net zero carbon economy by 2038.”

The sessions are available to anyone aged 16 plus who lives in West Yorkshire – more details can be found here. 

11 August 2020, 08:52

Boris Johnson says "not all cyclists are Lycra louts" as he announces £2 million cycling and walking boost in Hereford

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Boris Johnson opens CS5 (Image Credit: Transport for London)
Boris Johnson (picture credit TfL).jpg
Boris Johnson opens CS5 (Image Credit: Transport for London)

While his government’s handling of many matters recently has proved divisive to say the least, one thing the Prime Minister often appears to make plenty of sense on is cycling… and during a visit to Hereford County Hospital today, Boris once again preached the benefits of getting more people travelling on two wheels. 

Announcing that Herefordshire had been approved for £2 million towards active travel schemes in the county, the PM was asked if such schemes were appropiate for those who live in more rural areas.  

According to the Hereford Times, the PM said: “When I was mayor of London I used to cycle 30 miles a day easily.

“I think cycling is a fantastic thing to do. We have just put another £2 million into Herefordshire to support cycling and walking schemes.

“There is much more that we want to do. Where I agree with you that there is a paradox that cycling in rural areas on often quite fast A and B road can be scarier particularly for less confident cyclists.

“We need to think as we take forward our cycling revolution how we encourage people to cycle in rural areas as well.

“Motorists have got to understand there will be cyclists on the road and they’re not all lycra louts and they need to be treated with respect and caution.

“It’s about educating motorists as well.”

11 August 2020, 08:52

Fabio Jakobsen allowed to return home after condition improves

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fabio jakobsen - via deceuninck quick-step (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
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fabio jakobsen – via deceuninck quick-step (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Following his horror crash at the Tour of Poland, Jakobsen is now able to travel back to the Netherlands after spending nearly a week recovering in a Polish hospital; he was initially placed in an induced coma before undergoing surgery. 

A statement from Deceuninck–Quick-Step said: “Fabio Jakobsen’s condition is evolving favourably, to the extent that he will be transferred Wednesday to the hospital in Leiden, the Netherlands (LUMC), where further follow-up treatment of his injuries will take place.”

11 August 2020, 08:52

Not everyone is sold on Boris Johnson's comments

. . . oh well done . . . thereby officially associating wearing of lycra with being a lout. FFS!

— cycletothesea (@cycletothesea) August 11, 2020

that’s my thought entirely: although not the worst think that’s come out of our PM’s mouth it definitely does us regular civilised cyclists who happen to wear elastene/polyester weave no favours. oh well, guess it is to be expected from a gaffe prone PM

— Alex Bonzi (@alexbonzi255) August 11, 2020

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boris johnson fb comments (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
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boris johnson fb comments (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Some aren’t happy that Boris chose to say ‘Lycra louts’ at all… do you think the PM’s language was a tad clumsy? 

11 August 2020, 08:52

Canyon throw the UCI rules out the window with the new super light version of their popular Ultimate

Canyon unveils 6.2kg Ultimate CFR road bike

Canyon unveils 6.2kg Ultimate CFR road bike

Two disc brake-equipped models are built around a 675g frame

11 August 2020, 08:52

After child skids into wall on her scooter, are Bath Two Tunnels cyclists and other users of greenway being deliberately targeted with oil?

After child skids into wall on her scooter, are Bath Two Tunnels cyclists and other users of greenway being deliberately targeted with oil?

Patches of oil in both tunnels, as well as surrounding park land

11 August 2020, 08:52

How does the latest Kickr stack up?

First Ride: Wahoo KICKR V5 trainer

First Ride: Wahoo KICKR V5 trainer

We've had a go on Wahoo's latest trainer - how does it stack up?

11 August 2020, 08:52

Full story on the Richmond Park rat-running uproar

Richmond Park reopens to rat-running drivers after almost five months of car-free roads

Richmond Park reopens to rat-running drivers after almost five months of car-free roads

Campaigners slam "reckless and drastic" move by Royal Parks

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31 thoughts on “Fabio Jakobsen heading home to Netherlands tomorrow after horror crash; Cyclists “not all Lycra louts” says Boris Johnson; Biden questioned over helmetless ride; Anger over traps laid for cyclists + more on the live blog”

  1. brooksby
    August 11, 2020 at 9:17 am
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    Isn’t it the difference

    Isn’t it the difference between “think is dangerous” and “is (actually) dangerous”?

    Cycling isn’t dangerous, but many people think that it is.

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    • the little onion
      August 11, 2020 at 9:28 am
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      Yes, that’s true. But humans

      Yes, that’s true. But humans are guided by perceived risk, not cold, hard statistics. It’s why people buy SUVs because they are seen as ‘safer’ as they are higher up, but they are more dangerous not just to other people but to their own occupants because they are heavy with a higher centre of gravity, so crashes are worse.

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      • Sriracha
        August 11, 2020 at 9:38 am
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        Then again, it may be
        Then again, it may be dangerous for them. Until you develop some skill at avoiding potholes and storm drains, an awareness of driver behaviour and a sixth sense for driver ignorance and rage, a “wet behind the ears” cyclists probably is in some peril.

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  2. brooksby
    August 11, 2020 at 9:18 am
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    A cycle lane I use (the new

    A cycle lane I use (the new coned off one on the Triangle in Bristol) was blocked bya  bin lorry yesterday morning.  They’d actually moved cones so they could squeeze their truck out of the way of the (real) traffic.

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    • Notbuilt2climb
      August 11, 2020 at 11:25 am
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      That area is a nightmare for

      That area is a nightmare for cyclists without the ‘new’ lane.  I use the main traffic lane as I need to cycle around the Triangle to go down Hotwells Road.  If I used the cycle lane, I’d be increasing the risk/danger.  The 20mph limit is rarely adhered to.

      And just last week, I had to avoid a large delivery truck parked (driver was on his phone) across the inbound cycle lane (but facing up Whiteladies Rd) on a solid white lined cycle lane outside the church and RWA.  

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      • brooksby
        August 11, 2020 at 11:51 am
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        Yeah, if you’re coming down

        Yeah, if you’re coming down from Clifton or Whiteladies Road and then want to go around and down Jacobs Wells Road then there’s no point using the new lane.

        Of course, that doesn’t appear to be obvious to the motorists who now really take exception to you not using the new lane (“We put those cones there for you!  The least you can do is use that weirdly narrow space!”).

        Have you been further along Park Row yet?  For reasons I cannot determine, there are two rows of seven (count them! – seven) cones in the road opposite what used to be Shark Bite…

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        • Notbuilt2climb
          August 11, 2020 at 12:34 pm
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          Not been down that far

          Not been down that far recently and try to avoid the centre of Bristol when on my bike.  But I saw a couple of pics of ‘lanes’ near Perry Road, Lower Park Row that seemed a little bit of a token effort.  Sure there must be reasoning behind the decisions.

          I just have to remember that despite some apparantley not so bright people making these decisions, we have put several men on the moon.  It’s all about balance!!

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        • Notbuilt2climb
          August 11, 2020 at 12:38 pm
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          Seems some motorists take

          Seems some motorists take exception to anything.  I saw a Range Rover being driven at (in my estimation) in excess of 40mph and probably closer to 50mph coming off the top of Park Street opp the Uni building.  When I gestured to him to slow down (flat hand up & down), he just stuck his middle finger up at me.

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        • Bmblbzzz
          August 11, 2020 at 12:54 pm
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          Went down there yesterday.

          Went down there yesterday. The coned-off lane on Perry Road and Park Row stops and starts with no obvious reasoning. It’s kind of better than without it, I think… at any rate it means you don’t get held up by the traffic queuing outside BRI and at Maudin Street / Jamaica Street junction. And the same at the junction with St Michael’s Hill. But it does create some worrying left-hook opportunities (or maybe just makes you more aware of them?).

          I do wonder if it’s main purpose is not so much to aid cycling as to reduce the main traffic width. Possibly the latest wheeze (pun intended) to avoid introducing a functional clean-air zone… 

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          • brooksby
            August 11, 2020 at 1:18 pm
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            The coned-off lane on Perry

            The coned-off lane on Perry Road and Park Row also forces you into the narrow area nearer the kerb that has the worst road surface (drain covers, suken trenches, badly repaired holes, that sort of thing).

            But if you choose to move out into the lane to avoid the bad road surface (as I would have done more often, prior to these ‘cones’ being put in) you now get tailgated more then before by motorists angry that you’re not using the coned-off bit.

            ‘Box ticked’, I suspect…

          • Bmblbzzz
            August 11, 2020 at 2:11 pm
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            Yep, the bit on the Triangle

            Yep, the bit on the Triangle sends you right over the sunken covers and so on too. So far I’ve only used these lanes on the tourer with 40mm tyres, don’t think I’m keen to repeat the experience on 28s. 

        • Bmblbzzz
          August 11, 2020 at 1:15 pm
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          Also, the cycle parking that

          Also, the cycle parking that used to be on the Triangle outside Barclays has been taken away. This is to allow the bus stop to be moved there, since the extended pavement and cycle lane are now where the bus stop used to be outside Wilko’s. There are still a couple of taxi spots outside NatWest. But the cycle parking has gone and doesn’t seem to have been put anywhere else either. This is going to be a problem once the students come back. 

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  3. bobbypuk
    August 11, 2020 at 9:37 am
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    Excellent. Transport Minister

    Excellent. Transport Minister saying roads are too dangerous for people to cycle and we need to build separate infrastructure. No mention of tackling why the roads are unsafe.

    It occured to me yesterday that roads are just shared use paths and should be treated the same. If I’m sharing a footpath with pedestrians I should slow down, beware and give way. If I’m on a dedicated cycle path or velodrome I don’t have the expectations of having to share the space.

    So a car on A4 is on a shared path, a car on the M4 doesn’t have the same expectations of having to share the space.

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    • EK Spinner
      August 11, 2020 at 10:59 am
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      That is an excellent way of

      That is an excellent way of thinking about it, I’m going to steal this, though I will change the last line slightly, we have the expectations of the drivers not the inanimate objects they are driving.

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    • Sriracha
      August 11, 2020 at 11:03 am
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      Just as cyclists get
      Just as cyclists get frustrated with pedestrians on shared use paths, so motorists with cyclists.

      The proposed Highway Code changes bring it into focus. They rightly embody a minimum overtaking clearance of 1.5m – 2m. And yet this is physically impossible on almost all roads, unless the car takes the other lane. However there is no expectation that drivers do this, instead cyclists are told to single out where “this would make it safe for cars to overtake” (despite this being dimensionally impossible – road lanes are not wide enough ever to accommodate the stipulated safety margin).

      The logic is that the infrastructure does need to change. Cars and bikes do not make the best bedfellows. In a world of plentiful cyclists, expecting drivers to show patience over and over as they meet each cyclist and wait for a clear road to overtake – it just won’t happen.

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      • John Smith
        August 11, 2020 at 11:49 am
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        “And yet this is physically

        “And yet this is physically impossible on almost all roads, unless the car takes the other lane.”

        There is. It is not written in the rules, but drivers should move in to the other lane where it exists

        “instead cyclists are told to single out where “this would make it safe for cars to overtake” (despite this being dimensionally impossible – road lanes are not wide enough ever to accommodate the stipulated safety margin).”

        I think you missunderstand what this is aimed at. It is aimed at cyclists on narrow county roads where passing a pair of cyclists may be impossible whilst giving space. This should be treated the same as the guidence for drivers of slow vehicals to pull over and let other road users past. The two should be used in the same situations, with the recognition that where a car or lorry has to stop to facilitate a safe pass a pair of cyclists may mearly need to move in to single file.

         

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        • Sriracha
          August 11, 2020 at 2:43 pm
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          John Smith wrote:

          I think you missunderstand what this is aimed at. It is aimed at cyclists on narrow county roads where passing a pair of cyclists may be impossible whilst giving space.

          — John Smith

          No, I do not misunderstand that at all. I am saying that is how it will be (mis)understood by motorists. Two examples very recently here on road.cc where motorists have been enraged by cyclists two abreast, despite being on a two-lane road where they should be using the other lane to overtake anyway.
          https://road.cc/content/news/near-miss-day-453-two-abreast-punishment-pass-276327
          https://road.cc/content/news/club-chairman-complains-being-held-cyclists-276119

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      • bobbypuk
        August 11, 2020 at 1:01 pm
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        Sriracha wrote:

        Cars and bikes do not make the best bedfellows.

        — Sriracha

        I agree with this but you take the logic in a strange direction. The fact is that cars do not make good bed fellows for anything else. Noise, pollution, parking, bullying cyclists, bullying pedestrians and causing injury. We should not accept all these things as inevitable and just cede the roads to drivers. We should rein in the drivers and make our towns liveable again. 

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    • IanMK
      August 11, 2020 at 3:10 pm
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      Many towns and villages are

      Many towns and villages are linked by roads without even a footpath. In this case it seems obvious that the road is shared use with all forms of transport. In some cases before they were roads they were probably tracks that were obviously shared use. Just because they are now covered in tarmac should not give the car primacy on these spaces. The way to make them safer is to explain this concept to drivers.

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      • Sriracha
        August 11, 2020 at 5:29 pm
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        What frustrates me most is
        What frustrates me most is the single carriageway A-roads linking towns and villages that do have the ubiquitous pavement alongside, falling into disrepair and being reclaimed by overgrowth, and which see zero pedestrians, none. Pedestrians don’t tend to walk from town to town, but these are heavily used commuter corridors.

        These would be an easy fix for a segregated cycle route, and very necessary given the traffic thundering along the A road with no propensity to give any margin. They could designate them as shared use if there is a requirement to tick a box for pedestrians, but seriously there are more unicorns ?.

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  4. Awavey
    August 11, 2020 at 2:45 pm
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    Speaking of ‘you had one job
    Speaking of ‘you had one job roundabouts’ I see the Cambridge Dutch style one has had to close for repairs already after a car driver hit & damaged one of the zebra crossing beacons & then drove off…if only drivers had some kind of unique identification number on their vehicle this kind of thing wouldnt be possible would it… https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cambridgeshire-53736468

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    • mdavidford
      August 11, 2020 at 3:14 pm
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      Or if the belisha beacon was

      Or if the belisha beacon was wearing some hi-viz and displaying a light… oh.

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    • Sriracha
      August 11, 2020 at 3:25 pm
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      Assignment in comparative
      Assignment in comparative journalism, two slants on the same story:

      https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cambridgeshire-53736468

      https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/08/10/britains-first-dutch-style-roundabout-closes-repair-works-car/

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      • Awavey
        August 11, 2020 at 4:16 pm
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        Apparently Nick Ferrari cited
        Apparently Nick Ferrari cited the closure on his radio show as an example of how governments locally/nationally were spending too much money on cycling,no doubt the poor guy will be apoplectic when he hears how much they want to spend on a lower Thames crossing…

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  5. mdavidford
    August 11, 2020 at 3:23 pm
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    Quote:

    “Motorists have got to understand there will be cyclists on the road and they’re people, not all ‘lycra louts’, and they need to be treated with respect and caution.”

    Fixed that for you, PM.

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  6. Sriracha
    August 11, 2020 at 3:41 pm
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    Boris wrote:

    Where I agree with you that there is a paradox that cycling in rural areas on often quite fast A and B road can be scarier particularly for less confident cyclists.

    — Boris

    Scary because they are lethal (yes, the drivers). These are the roads I avoid at all costs, and I speak as one who cycled extensively through Central London in my youth.

    I do think that Boris gets cycling more than most politicians. It’s one thing to be lectured on the cost to the NHS of the nations’ collective girth, but nothing beats the personal experience of a close call. So he knows the overall saving to the treasury of spending more money to get people cycling.

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    • Awavey
      August 11, 2020 at 4:25 pm
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      I agree though cycle quite
      I agree though cycle quite abit on rural roads just because of where I’m based,though I like to think I can judge the really bad roads and avoid them,but it’s not always possible.

      However whilst Boris may get cycling more than most,his traditionally loose turn of phrase, will mean most of the media will lead on the ‘lycra louts’ part,not the we must do more for cycling bit which is annoying enough by itself but it also backs up in the anti’s minds that cyclists in lycra (and I’ve no idea why so many get hung up on styles of clothing, it cant surely just be because it’s short & snappy term) are louts because Boris said some of them were

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  7. brooksby
    August 11, 2020 at 4:24 pm
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    “Not all Conservative members

    “Not all members of the Government are lying, cheating, greasy-pole-climbing, so-and-so’s who are just out to make as much money for themselves and their friends-and-relations as possible”, says Man on the Clapham Omnibus.

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  8. mdavidford
    August 11, 2020 at 5:07 pm
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    Is the cycle training being

    Is the cycle training being delivered through that headset? That’s an innovative solution to the challenges of physical distancing.

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  9. ChrisB200SX
    August 11, 2020 at 5:14 pm
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    Those MTB traps…

    Those MTB traps…
    I’m fairly sure that, by tort(?), if the landowner has not put up appropriate barriers that physically stops anyone getting in, they are liable for any injuries sustained on their property.
    This is why building sites have to be properly secured, due to the potential danger within.

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    • Sriracha
      August 11, 2020 at 7:10 pm
      0

      The more so if they have set
      The more so if they have set the traps.

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Well shaped, supple, supportive, capable and predictable - everything a solid enduro e-MTB should be
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The new Orbea Wild e-MTB dumps Bosch motor and boards the Avinox hype train
The new Orbea Wild e-MTB dumps Bosch motor and boards the Avinox hype train
Updated e-MTB goes big on power and low on centre of gravity
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ktache 25 minutes ago

Mountain bike bars have gotten much wider.

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ktache 33 minutes ago

@Sredlums Quite obvious nipple ended cable, one you pointed it out...

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ktache 38 minutes ago

Those don't look like vehicle stopping bollards.

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Langoo 54 minutes ago

Drivers seem to be using the pavement as well, perhaps there will be calls to remove this to if enough of them decide that's the place to park.🙄 https://www.facebook.com/share/1D5GaMsTkF/

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Backladder 1 hour ago

@Clem Fandango Like this?

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chrisonabike 1 hour ago

Raleigh Chopper? Harley bars, gear shifter stick...

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chrisonabike 2 hours ago

Ah, my apologies. Well that off-road-style Surron "bike" ought to tick the box? (And going the other way the early "mountain bike" was sometimes a converted Schwinn cruiser).

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chrisonabike 2 hours ago

"However, an indifferent driver doesn’t necessarily mean they are a poor driver or threatening to the cyclist" Semantics? "You can slice it as thin as you like but it's still baloney" An indifferent driver is a threat to everyone, including themselves and their passengers. They may not *mean* it (likely most don't)... doesn't change the outcomes. (well ... it might for them, in court - we have sympathy for incompetent drivers!) Given increasing motoring the only reason most countries don't have road deaths at higher levels than the 60s is we've fixed it for there to be less consequences for indifferent or indeed poor drivers *. (And per "sustainable safety" we should continue to make consequences less harmful - but that must apply to *all* road users!) Thanks for the comment - it's hot now, but maybe a cycle will help me? Ride on! * lots of reasons: better trauma medicine / faster response times, much more protection in-car, driving aids, better motor infra that helps keep things safer for motorists ... and at least in the UK also pedestrians, but partly by making it so inconvenient to get about that they don't bother so aren't there to be in collision with motor vehicles.

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Clem Fandango 2 hours ago

@chrisonabike I mean, in terms of accessories & up selling sure. Where's the rugged "go anywhere" capability that's required for the cyclist that never leaves the urban environment & has Jones's to keep up with?

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chrisonabike 2 hours ago

You could fit spikes and flamethrowers if you wanted...

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