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birkacre brow incident - via Lancashire Road Police on twitter (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Police deny “victim blaming” in helmet tweet; Bike raffle start-up launches; Varnish loses tribunal appeal; Richmond Park reopens all roads to cyclists (on weekdays); Sunweb rider sent home for shopping trip + more on the live blog

Welcome to Tuesday’s live blog, with Jack Sexty at the controls and Simon MacMichael taking over later this evening
  • by Jack Sexty
Tue, Jul 14, 2020 08:20
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SUMMARY

  • Police searching for hit-and-run cyclist after pedestrian dies
  • It's Bastille Day
  • Will you be purchasing a set of the new tan wall Continental GP5000's?
  • Irish Transport Minister says no to mandatory helmet law
  • Breaking: Jess Varnish loses employment tribunal appeal
  • Varnish appeal: employment law specialist says verdict "welcome news to the sporting world"
  • Varnish appeal: British Cycling statement
  • Sunweb rider Michael Storer sent home from training camp for banned shopping trip
  • It's been four years since someone went for a jog up the Ventoux
  • Rafflebike launches, with the chance to 'win' a bike from just £4
  • Government release details of first e-scooter trial, with London's Square Mile set to follow
  • Barriers removed in the Highlands to make more room for physical distancing
  • Injured cyclist carried half a mile to an ambulance after falling on a hill
  • More changes to Royal Parks lockdown measures, a Richmond Park reopens all routes to cyclists
  • Helmet row: Lancashire Road Police deny "victim blaming" in tweet promoting cycle helmet use
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birkacre brow incident - via Lancashire Road Police on twitter (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
14 July 2020, 08:20

Police searching for hit-and-run cyclist after pedestrian dies

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bow road - via google streetview (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
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bow road – via google streetview (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

72-year-old Peter McCombie died seven days after the collision in Bow Road, East London, and police are now searching for the cyclist that hit him – full story to follow. 

14 July 2020, 08:20

It's Bastille Day

It’s July 14th, Bastille Day in France, vive Le Tour..! pic.twitter.com/bT3QIcMiul

— Graham Watson (@grahamwatson10) July 14, 2020

Which would have meant Tour de France and more Tour de France, but then that thing happened…

14 July 2020, 08:20

Will you be purchasing a set of the new tan wall Continental GP5000's?

 

One of the most popular road racing tyres on the planet has been given a cheeky tan… will you be rushing out to get a pair?

14 July 2020, 08:20

Irish Transport Minister says no to mandatory helmet law

Eamon Ryan - via wikimedia commons
Eamon Ryan - via wikimedia commons (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Eamon Ryan - via wikimedia commons
Eamon Ryan – via wikimedia commons (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

After the Fine Gael politician Alan Dillon made calls for a mandatory helmet law for cyclists in Irish parliament last month, Transport Minister Eamon Ryan has now categorically ruled it out after citing “international evidence” that such a law could lead to a drop in cycling numbers. 

Ryan said: “International evidence is that mandatory helmet legislation acts as a major disincentive to cycling such that the net impact of the legislation on public health is significantly negative.”

Ryan, the leader of Ireland’s Green Party and a former bike shop owner, recently secured a huge financial boost for cycling and walking in the country, with €360 million going towards schemes such as protected cycleways and expanded pavements over the next five years, according to Forbes; indeed, 20% of Ireland’s total transport budget will be spent on cycling and walking, with two thirds going towards public transport. 

Ryan’s response to Dillon’s proposal was the first time he had made his opinions known publicly regarding calls for mandatory helmets.

14 July 2020, 08:20

Breaking: Jess Varnish loses employment tribunal appeal

Jess Varnish celebrates a gold medal and  world record (© Dene Percy)
Jess Varnish celebrates a gold medal and world record (© Dene Percy) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Jess Varnish celebrates a gold medal and  world record (© Dene Percy)
Jess Varnish celebrates a gold medal and world record (© Dene Percy) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

The 29-year-old former track sprinter appealed against the original ruling in 2019 that deemed she was not an employee of British Cycling; but it’s now been decided that the decision wil be upheld. 

Varnish was dropped from the British national squad in 2016 in controversial circumstances, after she complained that then technical director Shane Sutton told her to “go and have a baby.”

Claiming that she was unfairly discriminated against, Varnish resorted to a tribunal in a bid to establish that she was an employee of British Cycling and UK Sport when she received funding and not an independent contractor. If this latest appeal had have ruled in Varnish’s favour, it would have cleared the way for her to sue for wrongful dismissal; however the tribunal once again ruled that Varnish was “not an employee or a worker” for British Cycling, with Mr Justice Choudhury declaring in the judgement: “The Tribunal had not erred in its approach to the assessment of employee status and nor had it reached conclusions that no reasonable tribunal, properly directed, could have reached.

14 July 2020, 08:20

Varnish appeal: employment law specialist says verdict "welcome news to the sporting world"

Emily Chalkley, a Senior Associate at specialist employment law firm Charles Russell Speechlys, said the verdict was “welcome news” because of the huge implications a ruling in Varnish’ favour could have had on the way sport and elite athletes are financed in the UK. 

She says: “The Varnish case is seen by many as the ‘test case’ for employment status in the sport industry, and as such today’s outcome will be welcome news to the sporting world. If Varnish had been successful it could have set precedent and potentially give over 1,000 athletes UK employment rights and pension rights.

“The legislature needs to do more to clarify employment status, otherwise we may see many more athletes follow in her footsteps and bring expensive and complicated employment status claims in the employment tribunal.

“Varnish still may seek to continue the fight in the Court of Appeal. A successful appeal could have huge effects on sports funding, as UK Sport could be forced to restructure its funding programme, paying national insurance on behalf of athletes and pension contributions for the first time.

“It could also lead to athletes making backdated financial claims. HMRC are likely to have a close eye on this case particularly in light of their current focus on employment status for tax and is likely to ‘go after’ British Cycling/UK Sport for unpaid PAYE and NICs, if she successfully appeals.”

14 July 2020, 08:20

Varnish appeal: British Cycling statement

British Cycling Logo
British Cycling Logo (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
British Cycling Logo
British Cycling Logo (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

A British Cycling spokesperson said: “We believe that British Cycling’s relationship with riders who represent this country is not one of employer-employee but that of an organisation supporting dedicated athletes to fulfil their potential. This view was supported in law by the first tribunal, a verdict confirmed by today’s dismissal of Jess’s appeal.

“We had tried to reach a resolution with Jess much sooner, so we regret she was advised to pursue the route of an employment tribunal when other avenues were open to her. Because of our responsibility to represent the best interests of every rider who hopes to compete at an Olympics or Paralympics, that decision meant we had no option but to oppose her case.

“Since Jess raised her concerns about the Great Britain Cycling Team in 2016, we have implemented significant changes to the culture and processes of our high-performance programme. Four years on, and while we are always seeking to improve, we are happy to say that the well-being of staff and riders in our high-performance programme continues to be our highest priority.”

14 July 2020, 08:20

Sunweb rider Michael Storer sent home from training camp for banned shopping trip

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michael storer - via team sunweb (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
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michael storer – via team sunweb (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

The 23-year-old Australian broke the team’s strict internal quarantine rules by leaving his ‘bubble’ inside the team’s privately hired hotel in Austria. Team Sunweb told Wielerflits that Storer had endangered the health of his teammates by making the trip to a shop nearby, saying in a statement: 

“We apply very strict precautions during our training camp in Kühtai, Austria. We want to limit interaction with the outside world as much as possible to minimise the risk of infection. Not only to avoid getting infected ourselves, but also to minimise the risks of bringing the virus into the peloton when we return to competition on August 1. 

“It is purely as a precaution and Michael himself fully understands it. Top sport in corona times is a new situation for everyone. A lot is demanded of people and of course we also understand that riders and staff have to get used to this. ”

14 July 2020, 08:20

It's been four years since someone went for a jog up the Ventoux

Yep, four years ago to the day. As it’s Bastille Day, we’ll also be bringing you a little round-up of our fave Tour de France moments from over the years. I don’t think this one would count as one of Froome’s fondest memories, but it’s certainly one of his most entertaining…

14 July 2020, 08:20

Rafflebike launches, with the chance to 'win' a bike from just £4

While online raffles for pretty grand prizes are nothing new, Rafflebike is perhaps the first we’ve seen of it in the bike industry… and on offer in the inaugural round of raffles is a GoCycle GX e-bike (entry £4) a road bike worth up to £3,799 (entry £6) and a Garmin Edge 1030 Plus (entry £2.50). 

Rafflebike say they’ve took care of the ethical side of things by being transparent on entries and odds for each giveaway, capping entries and having each competition regulated by The Institute of Promotional Marketing. It was developed during lockdown to “provide the burgeoning cycling community with regular opportunities to solve their n+1 problem” so says Co-founder Henry Wisdom: 

“Cycling has a loyal following but is nonetheless an expensive hobby to have whatever your level. We founded Rafflebike to put some of the very finest cycling gear in the hands of those who want it, for £6 rather than £6k.

“If we can bring some joy to any one new cyclist by moving their current bike up a few tiers or give an established rider that gravel bike which will allow them to explore a new aspect of this wonderful sport, then I’ll call Rafflebike a success.”

If you could use a new bike and fancy a flutter, visit the Rafflebike website here. 

14 July 2020, 08:20

Government release details of first e-scooter trial, with London's Square Mile set to follow

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bird-e-scooters-queen-elizabeth-olympic-park-copyright-simon-macmichael (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
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After it was announced at the start of the month that the UK’s blanket e-scooter ban was to be lifted, it’s been confirmed that the very first trial is taking place in the Tees Valley, including the towns of Darlington, Hartlepool, Middlesborough, Redcar and Stockton-on-Tees. Only rental scooters are legal, speeds are limited to 15.5mph and they can’t be used on pavements, just roads and cycle lanes as laid out in the government guidance document. 

More areas will follow, with plans for a trial in London’s Square Mile released today. The City of London Corporation have agreed to participate in the trials providing they meet City Corporation requirements, as “the schemes present an alternative transport that allows for social distancing.” 

Alastair Moss, Chair of the Planning and Transportation Committee at the City of London Corporation, commented: “This is a timely opportunity to look into how e-scooters can play a role in supporting a shift to sustainable travel to compliment walking, cycling and public transport options in the City.

“The safety and comfort of all who live, work and visit the Square Mile is paramount, so we will need to be satisfied by Department for Transport and TfL guidance before the trials are implemented.

“Any eventual trial will be thoroughly monitored so that we are fully assured that hired e-scooters can safely play their part in making the City fully accessible with sustainable transport.”

14 July 2020, 08:20

Barriers removed in the Highlands to make more room for physical distancing

@HighlandCouncil have been busy removing metal barriers, clearing vegetation and widening the gravel along Kinmylies Way to make more room for #physicaldistancing #SpacesForPeople #Inverness 🚶‍♀️🚴 pic.twitter.com/CdLq9V92Wh

— Sustrans Scotland (@SustransScot) July 14, 2020

Barriers such as the one on the first image can often be a headache for cargo cyclists, parents with pushchairs and wheelchair users; and so The Highland Council have taken the step of widendng paths and taking out barriers in and around Inverness. 

14 July 2020, 08:20

Injured cyclist carried half a mile to an ambulance after falling on a hill

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haughmond hill - via wikimedia commons (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
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haughmond hill – via wikimedia commons (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

The cyclist fell on top of Haughmond Hill in Upton Magna, Shropshire just before 8pm on Monday, reports the Shropshire Star, with ambulances and the local Fire and Rescue service called in to assist. He was treated for ‘potentially serious injuries’ at the scene before he was carried a distance of around half a mile to an ambulance, with emergency services in attendance for at least three and a half hours. 

The cyclist was then transported to Royal Shrewsbury Hospital for further assessment.

14 July 2020, 08:20

More changes to Royal Parks lockdown measures, a Richmond Park reopens all routes to cyclists

Kingston, Richmond, Sheen & Roehampton Gates are open for access to the nearest car park only, Monday to Friday. All other park roads remain closed to motor vehicles. #richmondpark pic.twitter.com/RTNftfW91f

— Royal Parks Police (@MPSRoyal_Parks) July 14, 2020

After announcing that some roads would close to motor vehicles in bid to combat through-traffic last week, in their latest coronavirus update Royal Parks have now said that Cycling in Richmond Park is now welcomed “at any time” on weekdays, and on all roads within the park; this includes the shared access Tamsin Trail. At weekends, it’s still only commuting keyworkers and under 12s with family who can cycle in Richmond Park. 

The tweet above show notices going up reminding drivers that Kingston, Richmond, Sheen & Roehampton Gates are open for access “to the nearest car park only” for drivers. Some car parks in Greenwich, Bushy and Richmond have also reopened today, but no through traffic is allowed in any of those parks. 

14 July 2020, 08:20

Helmet row: Lancashire Road Police deny "victim blaming" in tweet promoting cycle helmet use

If ever there was a scene to promote the wearing of a cycle helmet, this is it. Rider of a bicycle and a car have collided on Birkacre Brow, Coppull. Rider off to hospital and road will be open shortly. #t1tacops pic.twitter.com/HaR3g9oTIx

— Lancs Road Police (@LancsRoadPolice) July 14, 2020

Referring to the image in the post above that shows the aftermath of a collision between a driver and a cyclist, Lancashire Road Police say: “If ever there was a scene to promote the wearing of a cycle helmet, this is it”; however not everyone agrees this was the right message to send out, with some suggesting that the force are “victim blaming” by putting the onus on the cyclist to wear a helmet.

Blaming the victim is never a good look, guys. How about promoting better driving, or safer roads?

— Iain Roberts (@slowbikeiain) July 14, 2020

did they ‘collide’ or did a car driver hit a cyclist?

— SuziQ (@SuziQ666) July 14, 2020

Looks like a scene to promote looking where you’re going. I hope you’ll be checking the mobile phone of the driver.

— Simon Proven (@simonproven) July 14, 2020

Thanks for the replies – hopefully everyone knows we would never, ever victim blame. The rider has a broken arm but was wearing a helmet which has undoubtedly helped to prevent more serious injury and the original tweet just sought to highlight their benefits 👍

— Lancs Road Police (@LancsRoadPolice) July 14, 2020

Lancs Road Police have since responded to the complaints, claiming that they “would never, ever victim blame” and simply wanted to highlight that the rider’s helmet “undoubtedly helped to prevent more serious injury”. Still some don’t agree, and are calling for the force to highlight the need for safer driving instead of focussing on the wearing of helmets. 

It sounds like victim blaming and every cyclist hater will copy you.
A helmet is not a legal requirement, your comment was unnecessary; the driver may have benefited from one too, but no mention of that.

— Helen Highwater (@HelenSimpson4) July 14, 2020

You don’t know whether or not it helped, so undoubtedly, you’re wrong.

— Pudsey Pedaller (@PudseyPedaller) July 14, 2020

14 July 2020, 08:20

Full story on the appeal to find a cyclist who collided with a pedestrian in east London

Police appeal to find cyclist after pedestrian dies following collision in east London

Police appeal to find cyclist after pedestrian dies following collision in east London

Fatal crash happened on Bow Road on Friday 3 July; police say rider did not stop at scene

14 July 2020, 08:20

Sweat to coo yourself down, apparently...

Megmeister claims its Ultrafris Pro kit uses a rider’s sweat to cool them down

Megmeister claims its Ultrafris Pro kit uses a rider’s sweat to cool them down

The kit claims to turn the “negative side-effect of heat into a performance-enhancing cooling agent”

14 July 2020, 08:20

Trouble and strife at the retail giants?

Halfords hits the headlines over 60 store closures – but what’s the reality?

Halfords hits the headlines over 60 store closures – but what’s the reality?

COVID-19 crisis has accelerated retailer’s existing “right-sizing” strategy

14 July 2020, 08:20

My eyes!

Is this the loudest kit you’ve ever seen? Pirate Juice doesn’t do subtle

Is this the loudest kit you’ve ever seen? Pirate Juice doesn’t do subtle

Designs include ‘Acid Lips’ and ‘The Dogs Pollocks’

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11 thoughts on “Police deny “victim blaming” in helmet tweet; Bike raffle start-up launches; Varnish loses tribunal appeal; Richmond Park reopens all roads to cyclists (on weekdays); Sunweb rider sent home for shopping trip + more on the live blog”

  1. eburtthebike
    July 14, 2020 at 10:15 am
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    At last, a politician, a

    At last, a politician, a Transport Minister no less, who gets that helmets are not an effective answer and that health outcomes of a law are negative.  Maybe our own politicians might start doing some research rather than listening to the helmet zealots.

    Just listening to a R4 prog about training our politicians; in the UK, a minister is supposed to be on top of his brief after a few hours, clearly impossible.  In other places, notably China, every political official has a training programme, including the president, so that they understand the problems and solutions.

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  2. Zjtm231
    July 14, 2020 at 1:13 pm
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    I would imagine the Varnish

    I would imagine the Varnish verdict would be a relief to all associated with UK sport and cycling. Unfortunately, it seems Jess was on some selfish vindictive revenge ride that she regarded as a crusade.

     

    Sure Sutton should not have told her to “go have a baby”.

     

    However, what she probably needs to do now is both accept her sporting career is fully over and also that she has tarnished any of her sporting accomplishments by not being able to recognize at some stage it comes to and end, for everyone. 

     

    It seems to have been an unbelievable reaction all because she failed to qualify; not her coaches!

    Would be interesting to hear anyone else’s thoughts on it…

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    • Spokesperson
      July 14, 2020 at 10:37 pm
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      Jess was trying to establish

      Jess was trying to establish the claim to be an employee, rather than some sort of vassal to British Cycling, and that she deserved to be well supported to succeed, and not be subject to sexist and denigrating behaviour. And that she and other women in the team deserved the same level of support that the men in the team received. I think your comments are therefore mistaken and crude.

      So many people in employment nowadays are on zero hours, limited contracts, apprenticeships, able to be sacked at whim, no rights to training or PPE, or no rights to anything. If this brave woman goes out of her way to try and make a change, a difference in a sport we all love and fails, it is not right for anyone to attack her for trying. Plus if she had won it would have created a good precedent for others in similar, less prestigious work conditions so they might have more job security.  

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      • EK Spinner
        July 15, 2020 at 6:52 am
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        except elite performance

        except elite performance sport is not a “zero hours, limited contracts, apprenticeships, able to be sacked at whim, no rights to training or PPE, or no rights to anything” it is a results driven dog eat dog environment.

        Not that I am attempting to back up Sutton’s archiac attitudes and I haven’t read enough of the details to take a form position either side but be honest she was not in long (or even short) term normal world employment

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        • mdavidford
          July 15, 2020 at 9:01 am
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          EK Spinner wrote:

          it is a results driven dog eat dog environment.

          — EK Spinner

          That souds pretty similar to being a delivery ‘contractor’, uber operator, etc. to me – you keep your ‘productivity’ and results higher than the rest, whatever the cost, or risk being left on the sidelines while the next job is handed to someone else.

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      • Zjtm231
        July 15, 2020 at 8:16 am
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        I respectfully disagree in as

        I respectfully disagree in as much as athletes are not full-time employees that need to be protected until retirement age; that much I patently obvious.

        Perhaps I have missed the details of why she got much less support than the male athletes – what are they? Obviously this is not correct if indeed it was true.

        I can’t find anything regarding sexism claims in the press coverage of the judgement.

        NB I am not supporting Sutton’s comments which arent particularly nice but don’t in themselves mean she received any sexist treatment other than that comment.

        Worth adding that if she won she would have effectively bankrupt UK Sport, UK cycling and all funding for Olympic Athletes….

        Where were all the other athletes supporting her in this? 

        If she really thought this was wrong why didn’t she do this at the beginning or during her career not when it had finished?

        The final action in her career was to blame her coaches for failing to qualify for the Olympics rather than take any responsibility herself.

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      • Velovoyeur
        July 15, 2020 at 10:40 am
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        The claim to be an employee

        The claim to be an employee relies on the requirement that there be a mutuality of obligations. Jess Varnish’s case has been heard by legal experts twice now and the same outcome was reached in both instances. The courts do not differentiate on the type of employment role but decide if the relevant criteria are met for an agreement to be considered as employment. A supported athlete is not an employee was their verdict – two times.

        You state “and that she deserved to be well supported to succeed”. For any supported athlete not just cyclist, this is definitley the case with access coaching, testing, medical, equipment and travel to competitions. Jess Varnish recieved the same as everyone else.

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      • darrenleroy
        July 15, 2020 at 11:25 am
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        Funding is for riders to be

        Funding is for riders to be able to concentrate on their sporting career without having to work in a job to support themselves. They are not getting ‘paid’. 

        I know Sutton is a bit of a blunt instrument but we have no context of the ‘have a baby’ comment. She may have been discussing what her future plans were and he may have said that as she was dropped from the team she was free ‘to go and have a baby’. It may have been said sympathetically. We have no way of knowing the context. 

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  3. mdavidford
    July 14, 2020 at 1:45 pm
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    It’s a nice idea that people

    It’s a nice idea that people might go round on e-scooters complimenting people who are walking, cycling, or using public transport, but I suspect that’s not what they’ll actually be used for.

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  4. HoarseMann
    July 14, 2020 at 2:28 pm
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    Re: Rafflebike – looks like

    Re: Rafflebike – looks like you can enter their paid draws for free via a postal entry (well, it’s the cost of a stamp) https://rafflebike.com/terms-and-conditions/

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  5. eburtthebike
    July 14, 2020 at 7:34 pm
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    “Thanks for the replies –

    “Thanks for the replies – hopefully everyone knows we would never, ever victim blame.”

    Except when we do, in full public view, on the web for all to see.

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@yodhrin To be fair to UK police, and I know this certainly wouldn't apply in every case, the one time I did make a complaint against police driving, for pulling away from a stop straight in front of me without any indication, I had the superintendent of Brixton police station on the phone within 24 hours apologising and offering to send the officer round to make an apology in person and saying they would get retraining in driving skills (it's actually somewhere on this site but it was a while ago and the search engine doesn't seem to go that far back). Additionally, when I made a complaint against an officer in Battersea Park who not only accused me of swearing at a pedestrian, which I hadn't, but who was also extremely aggressive to me and rude to my wife, I again received a very swift response explaining that the officer had been disciplined, a note placed on his record, warned as to his future behaviour and ordered to undergo retraining, so my experience in this respect has been entirely positive. I should point out that in both instances I had irrefutable camera evidence of my claims, I do realise that if it was just my word against theirs, as it seems to be in the case above, the outcomes might have been significantly different.

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* 'processing' > 'proceeding'

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mdavidford 2 hours ago

I don't think it does - just processing on without regard to the circumstances. Replace it with 'pushing' if you like - makes no difference to the point. From what I can see in the video, he'd completed the turn and had sufficient opportunity to slow - it wouldn't have taken much of an adjustment.

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Bungle_52 2 hours ago

@Backladder Under the new hierarchy of road users we cyclists have a duty of care to pedestrians. In this instance the duty of care amounts to two things. First avoid the pedestrian. Tick. Secondly point out the error of their ways to try to improve their safety in future. Tick.

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Rome73 2 hours ago

There are several things on this planet, that when I look at them, my skill crawls and bile salivates in my mouth; and Michael Gove is one of them. So perhaps my thoughts on this are biased. And I shall keep them to myself.

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Rendel Harris 2 hours ago

As someone who regularly unleashes the fruitier sections of his vocabulary on drivers who do things that put me at risk of injury or worse, I have to say I agree with Jack here, the misdemeanour is not sufficiently egregious to justify the aggression. In this situation, which one faces numerous times in a day cycling in London, I find a simple "I think you'll find it's actually my light, chap/madam" suffices and nine times out of ten it elicits a sheepish apology. If the pedestrian wants to up the ante by giving back I'm quite prepared to respond in kind, but it's not a situation that requires such immediate aggression. That said it is Michael Gove so some forms of aggression would be justified, if the cyclist had said, "Exports are down 14% and we didn't even have a small boats problem before Brexit, you idiot" I'd cheer him on.

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@rjfrussell Well, now you mention it, the sound of fans cheering you on coming through the speakers would sometimes be quite nice ;-)

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