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“She saw nothing was wrong, came back and started screaming about how I’m a f***ing moron”: Cyclists share “terrifying” road rage experiences; Hinault tips Pogacar to win three Grand Tours in a year + more on the live blog

With Ryan slowly adjusting to life without a lanyard for another 12 months, Callum is back on the live blog to sweep up the last remnants from the men’s Tour and settle back into the more regular rhythm of drivers questioning cyclists’ right to exist
  • by Callum Devereux
Tue, Jul 28, 2026 09:52
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SUMMARY

  • London road rage
  • West Midlands Police's e-bike/motorbike confusion
  • A Brit has won a race!
  • How to win at the Tour de France... if you're Richard Carapaz
  • Millie Couzens to ride the Tour de France Femmes
  • Pricey Pog steers clear of Post-Tour crits
  • A screwed over wheel
  • LEJOG bike stolen
  • Ultra-cycling in a photo
  • Bernard Hinault tips Pogacar to win three Grand Tours in a year
  • How strong is a steel frame?
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28 July 2026, 09:27

London road rage

There’s a bias to trawling the London Cycling reddit thread, much like there is in news reporting. No one reports on the hundreds and thousands of journeys that are uneventful, safe and maybe even enjoyable.

But it being the summer, these are peak months of the year for people to be travelling around on two wheels, which unfortunately means there’s more scope for cyclists to be victims of the sort of road rage that no one deserves to be on the receiving end of… like this woman:

“Yesterday after work I was cycling home and was about to go onto Wandsworth Bridge. The bridge is under construction right now and is down to two narrow lanes.

Cyclist on Wandsworth Bridge Road
Cyclist on Wandsworth Bridge Road (Image Credit: @eastcoteonion on Twitter)

“Traffic was stopped, I was merging from the cycle lane into normal traffic by carefully/slowly weaving through some cars so I could integrate. I was going barely above walking speed, and while trying to squeeze through the last bit that would let me onto the bridge, the side of my foot grazed against a car. I did not hit it or kick it, my bike did not make any contact, my shoe grazed the passenger side door.

Immediately I said “sorry! was my shoe!” and this woman SLAMMED on the horn. I stopped and repeated myself again. She was still laying on the horn until traffic started moving again, and she floored it and sped past me.

I didn’t want to escalate anything so I cycled behind her car and made sure to give a very ample amount of space, like about 10 meters. Traffic stopped again and she got out of her car, came up to me screaming in my face about how I hit her car.

“She walked back to check her door, saw nothing was wrong, and came back to me and started screaming about how I’m a fucking moron and shouldn’t squeeze through tight spots. I had a really awful day at work and just broke down crying saying I’m sorry I’m sorry I promise it was just my shoe. She said oh don’t fucking start crying you bitch (I’m a woman in my mid 20s). I kind of dissociated for a lot of it and don’t remember all of what she screamed at me but she got back in her car and sped away.

Motorist kicks cyclist in road rage assault after close pass 4
Motorist kicks cyclist in road rage assault after close pass (Image Credit: CykelTony)

> “I’ve done nothing wrong”: Wanted road rage driver “gets away” with assaulting cyclist because he failed to turn up to court

> Pro boxer Hannah Rapp killed while cycling by road rage driver who deliberately reversed into her, police in Texas say

“I was crying and hyperventilating because I was terrified, but the guy in the car behind me said he recorded the entire thing on his phone if I wanted it. I said no but thank you, I just want to go home.

“I just wasn’t expecting someone to be so aggressive for such a non-issue. I’m here on a work visa and I’m terrified of someone being on my record to send me back home and I just spiralled. In the future, which hopefully never happens, what do you do when a driver gets out of their car to approach you?

“Next week I’ll start taking a different route home to avoid this bridge and hopefully won’t happen again.”

A horrible situation all round. Unfortunately car weaving can be perilous even when it’s ostensibly not dangerous. The comments aren’t short of sympathy…

“That sounds awful, I’m so sorry that happened. I’ve had people yell and abuse me for just existing on my bike (I’m a woman in my 40s). It leaves me all shakey! I’m glad other people were there for you. I’ve just bought a small camera to attach to me for when I ride cos I’m fed up of this shit.”

“This is so horrible, I’m so sorry it happened to you. Absolute idiots exist. Glad that you’re okay and absolutely next time cycle off and ignore the dumbass. You didn’t damage her car, so no reason for you to hang around!

“I’m purely terrified of weaving so I avoid it and ‘think like a car’ when I’m cycling in London. I drive more than cycle, so i know sometimes drivers don’t check blind spots and all that stuff that they SHOULD do and sometimes get spooked by cyclists. Purely for safety reasons, I’d sit behind tight traffic rather than weave.

“Ignore it, hope you’ve recovered, take yourself off and get a cake and give it no more thought 🤘”

“This really sucks, and they sound totally out of order. If a driver angrily gets out of their car and is approaching you and you feel threatened; this is already grounds for common assault so feel free to pretty much do anything that gets you out the situation and into safety.

“You’re not at risk of being done for fleeing the scene of an accident if you fear for your safety.”

It’d be interesting to hear the thoughts of the esteemed panel on this. Is there any hope of undertaking or weaving through vehicles when drivers are capable of acting so irrationally? I thought we were moving past the mindset of ‘vehicular cycling’ but it appears not…

28 July 2026, 17:09

West Midlands Police's e-bike/motorbike confusion

I want the world to know that I came up with the quip that West Midlands Police’s efforts were equivalent to trying to pin down Al Capone for tax evasion. It made 100 percent of news writers and editors in our group chat react with laughing emojis, so it’s good to know they both enjoyed it…

> What happens when a social media influencer gets pulled over on his heavily modified electric motorbike by undercover police dressed as roadmen? Yet more confusion and mixed messages about the legality of e-bikes

Seizing illegal ebikes
Seizing illegal ebikes (Image Credit: screenshots via Kurrgas on Instagram)
28 July 2026, 15:22

A Brit has won a race!

There’s always a chance you might be raced out, but you’re probably not sick of watching bunch sprints.

In that case how about a lovely victory for Noah Hobbs on the opening stage of the Tour de l’Ain. Timed to perfection…

Timed to perfection 👌

Noah Hobbs launched his sprint at exactly the right moment, surging past the rest of the bunch to claim victory on Stage 1 of the Tour de l’Ain. pic.twitter.com/AripUcPjVT

— Cycling on TNT Sports (@cyclingontnt) July 28, 2026

28 July 2026, 15:12

How to win at the Tour de France... if you're Richard Carapaz

Marginal gains never went away…

> How modern marginal gains are helping underdogs EF Education-EasyPost secure famous Tour de France victories

Tour de France 2026 Stage 20 Le Bourg d'Oisans to Alpe d'Huez
Richard Carapaz for EF Education Easy Post descends the Galibier to ultimately win the stage in Alpe d’Huez, stage 20, 2026 Tour de France (Image Credit: Ryan Mallon/Pete Goding)
28 July 2026, 14:55

Millie Couzens to ride the Tour de France Femmes

The former British National Champion made her debut in the race last year and will once again line up for Fenix-Premier Tech supporting the GC hopes of Puck Pieterse and the sprints of Charlotte Kool.

And as team announcements go, I don’t think you can beat childhood photos…

 

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28 July 2026, 14:09

Pricey Pog steers clear of Post-Tour crits

Once upon a time, the post Tour de France criterium was a means for a pro to make a living. It was one of the key reasons why the lanterne rouge, or last placed rider, was such an esteemed position, because it came with the invites on to the lucrative crit circuit.

Terrible puns aside, thankfully, the economics of the sport have improved so athletes are paid all year round, but criteriums still can offer a pretty penny for riders hoping to make a quick buck or make a small Benelux child’s evening. Here’s Richard Carapaz and Jasper Philipsen enjoying themselves at the Daagsnade Tour (‘The day after Tour’ I think – based on my rusting Swedish and school-level German)

 

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Now, Het Laaste Nieuws have done an investigation into the cost of attracting the world’s best to your village crit. The answer: 50,000 euros if you’re lucky. That was the cost of convincing Remco Evenepoel to rock up in Aalst, whilst Tadej Pogacar’s 100,000 euro price point was too expensive – as his cost would have swallowed up the crit’s entire rider budget!

Some criteriums benefit from a private sponsor willing to cough up the extra money to attract a star, but others aren’t so lucky.

So there you are… it is a lot of money, more than many of us make in a year for an evening’s work. But again, compared to so many other sports, it really isn’t that much for a sponsored appearance. Imagine how much it might cost Harry Kane to appear at a corporate football exhibition, let alone play?

One can imagine the Tour de France’s official criteriums, in Singapore and Japan, offer significantly more money to the very best athletes…

Mark Cavendish wins 2024 Tour de France Singapore Criterium
Mark Cavendish ‘wins’ 2024 Tour de France Singapore Criterium (Image Credit: A.S.O./Danial_Hakim)

Incidentally, Carapaz ‘won’ the criterium by beating Thymen Arensman in a two-man sprint whilst Jasper Philipsen won the sprint behind for third.

28 July 2026, 12:55

A screwed over wheel

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The mechanic writes, “I thought someone drilled it into his wheel. Once I took the tire off I found the screw somehow made its way sideways into the rim and went into one of the spoke holes punching a hole into the rim. An odd one for sure”

Our thoughts exactly

28 July 2026, 11:28

LEJOG bike stolen

I suspect the answer to Christoph’s question is, unfortunately, ‘yes’…

> “I didn’t know if I had just been naïve”: German cyclist “embarrassed” as bike stolen from Newcastle metro station days after completing Land’s End to John O’Groats ride

German cyclist's bike stolen from Newcastle metro station
German cyclist’s bike stolen from Newcastle metro station (Image Credit: Christoph Held)
28 July 2026, 11:25

Ultra-cycling in a photo

This is just tremendous…

 

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Incidentally, Robin Gemperle started the Transcontinental Race in the lead… and he’s still there! At the time of writing he’s in southern Albania heading towards the border with Greece and more than 100km ahead of second place Nicolas Chatelet who appears to be riding slower but sleeping less.

28 July 2026, 10:39

Bernard Hinault tips Pogacar to win three Grand Tours in a year

Both Bernard Hinault and Roger De Vlaeminck have a knack for saying something along the lines of ‘He’s one of the greatest, like Eddy Merckx and me.’ Our latest example of this comes from these quotes from the Badger on Tadej Pogacar to La Gazzetta dello Sport.

Bernard Hinault (picture courtesy Le Coq Sportif)
Bernard Hinault (picture courtesy Le Coq Sportif)

“It is beautiful to see an athlete remain at the top for so long. Merckx managed it, and so did I.

“When he wants to make the race, he makes it,” Hinault said. “He does not ask himself too many questions, just like Eddy and me.”

And finally, when asked about how he would have fared against the Slovenian…

“Every champion’s dream is to compete at the same time and under the same conditions. I do not know who would win, but Eddy and I would not start already beaten.”

I honestly admire the chutzpah. I suppose once you are a retired elite athlete you are stuck with an elite athlete’s mind for the rest of your life. Hinault was undoubtedly a great, a five Tour wins, 10 Grand Tour titles, a world champion and a winner of monuments as diverse from Lombardia to Paris-Roubaix.

Why wouldn’t he insert himself into the conversation, even if most people are probably in agreement over who is third best? And he is surely third best, much like how Jonas Vingegaard is currently second best, albeit less assuredly after this Tour de France.

Still, one achievement which Merckx, Hinault and a certain Chris Froome have achieved is uniting the belts, being the defending champion of every Grand Tour at once. But they all had a pesky off-season, with none of them ever winning the Giro, Tour and Vuelta in the same calendar year. But both Merckx and Hinault think Pogacar can do it…

Tour de France 2026 Stage 20 Le Bourg d'Oisans to Alpe d'Huez
Tour de France 2026 Stage 20 Tadej Pogacar descends the Galibier (Image Credit: Ryan Mallon/Pete Goding)

“He has no limits,” Hinault said. “There is enough time to recover between the Grand Tours, and he could win more than six Tours. He has an advantage over his rivals.

“He knows how to manage himself, so I do not think physical wear will be the problem. Mental fatigue could be more important. But he enjoys himself. He loves competing and he thrives when things become difficult.”

To put that achievement into context, the number of riders who have even finished all three Grand Tours in a season is really rather short, although there is precedent of riders sustaining multiple GC challenges in a season, even if you have to go back to 1957 for the last time a rider top-10’d all 3.

It seems like the Slovenian might need to contact Nelson Oliveira for some advice if he feels so inspired, or his union rep…

📊 Record-breaking ✅ Grand Tour # 2⃣4⃣ out of 24!

Parabéns, @Nelsoliveira89!

— 501 stages (incl. a couple of neutralized / cancelled)
– 1 y, 4 m, 16 d

— over 80,000 km of racing
– 2x the length of the equator 🌐

— 0⃣ DNF, DNS, DSQ
___
🇫🇷 #TDF2026 // 📺 Ⓜ️/ig pic.twitter.com/j0ZD86YXxI

— ammattipyöräily (@ammattipyoraily) July 26, 2026

28 July 2026, 10:00

How strong is a steel frame?

 

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Callum Devereux
Callum is a News Writer for road.cc, having initially joined as a freelance journalist in September 2025. He is also a Road Book contributor and has written for the almanac since 2023. He has a master’s degree in Broadcast Journalism from Cardiff University, where his dissertation focused on Geraint Thomas’ retirement and the boom and bust of the domestic racing calendar. He also has a degree in Scandinavian Studies & Politics which is somehow even more niche.

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27 thoughts on ““She saw nothing was wrong, came back and started screaming about how I’m a f***ing moron”: Cyclists share “terrifying” road rage experiences; Hinault tips Pogacar to win three Grand Tours in a year + more on the live blog”

  1. kingleo
    July 28, 2026 at 10:25 am
    5

    There are a lot of mentally ill motorists on our roads

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    • the little onion
      July 28, 2026 at 10:33 am
      12

      @kingleo maybe. I don’t think mental illness is the issue here. It’s “car culture” and “motornormativity”. The constant treatment of cyclists as some kind of aberration, cockroaches to be crushed, cars as extensions of personalities and power, and drivers’ rights as sacrosanct.

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      • jackcycles
        July 28, 2026 at 10:59 am
        2

        Nah, it’s just Londoners being Londoners. Step outside the capital in any direction for 20 or so miles and people revert to normal.

        Last time I went into London (a couple of weeks back) cyclists themselves seemed to have become far more assertive and aggressive, bundling through red lights and shouting at pedestrians. Very unpleasant city all round full of rude and insolent people. Couldn’t wait to get home.

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        • Rendel Harris
          July 28, 2026 at 11:02 am
          12

          @jackcycles If you want to stay in leafy Essex and keep out of our town that suits us just fine, Nigel.

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        • mdavidford
          July 28, 2026 at 11:11 am
          11

          Nope – we get our fair share of violent, aggressive, egocentric individuals driving around the towns and villages of Oxfordshire too. Of course, with the concentration of people in London, you’re likely to be exposed to more of them in an average journey than elsewhere, but they exist everywhere.

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          • jackcycles
            July 28, 2026 at 11:21 am
            1

            Agree there are some horrible people outside London too (and I used to live in Wallingford for a time, so I can speak to this) but generally it’s a much calmer, less angry, less self-entitled place to live.

            My point was that it’s really unhelpful to say “cyclists do this”, “motorists do that” etc when they are just subsets of a wider population of the area. A motorist in London is far more likely to be aggressive then a motorist outside London, because Londoners generally are far more aggressive as a group.

            We need to take the “them and us” mentality out of society and I’m hopeful that politically we might see a little bit of cross-party agreement on things like social care etc, which might help to bring society back together a little and get a bit of consensus. We shall see. And I think once society starts becoming less angry, these kinds of incidents will occur less frequently.

          • mdavidford
            July 28, 2026 at 11:28 am
            9

            “We need to take the “them and us” mentality out of society” …unless the ‘them’ is Londoners and the ‘us’ is the rest of the country?

            There will be more aggressive motorists per square mile in London because there are more people per square mile in London, so the same proportion gives you a higher total incidence, not because they’re “more aggressive as a group”.

          • Rendel Harris
            July 28, 2026 at 6:22 pm
            6

            @mdavidford “We should all love one another and I know there are people who do not love their fellow man and I HATE people like that!” Tom Lehrer. Thing is Tom was being satirical…

        • pockstone
          July 28, 2026 at 11:13 am
          2

          I wish that were the case.
          In Trumpton perhaps, but not the real world.

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          • Mr Blackbird
            July 28, 2026 at 12:11 pm
            8

            I suspect if Trumpton were remade, the modern version would include characters like :

            Ms Sellers the Influencer,

            Mr Platt-Ichewed the PR Spokesman,

            The Donut Brothers in their Subaru (with fuel injection and aerofoil),

            Mrs N Titled in her giant SUV, travelling between school, Waitrose and lunch appointments, but never more than 1km from her mock Tudor 7 bedroomed mansion (catchphrase “Get out of my fucking face!”)

            Mr Darius Titled the League div 2 Footballer, (catchphrases “Sick as a parrot”, “Over the Moon”, “Just wait till I get a transfer to the Prem, doll”. ).

          • Clem Fandango
            July 28, 2026 at 12:29 pm
            7

            I hear Windy Miller’s windmill went out of business & was converted into a Wetherspoons for a couple of years before also closing down due to lack of business (Trumpton being a famous Remain voting parish unlike those Reform voting types in Chigley,) and has subsequently become a vape shop.

            I’m also looking forward to hearing the jingle for the Trumpton Deliveroo brigade (you know: Chew, Spew, Bhaji McChew, Burger, Nugget & Sub).

        • chrisonabike
          July 28, 2026 at 11:25 am
          2

          Can confirm that wounded pride at “lack of respect from the ‘other’ ” (cyclists here) exists on the roads of Edinburgh, albeit it’s mostly good.

          I reckon it’s just the greater density / numbers of population. The more people trying to get somewhere, the more stress and acting out.

          Sometimes one might think something similar applies on the internet.

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        • mctrials23
          July 28, 2026 at 11:30 am
          4

          @jackcycles London is indeed a bubble but I can assure you those exact same people live everywhere. Unless by “revert to normal” you mean just the average level of twattery from drivers in this country.

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        • Clem Fandango
          July 28, 2026 at 12:08 pm
          6

          @jackcycles yes yes, but what was the picture on the ground re established reds?

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        • oceandweller
          July 28, 2026 at 12:48 pm
          3

          @jackcycles
          Yep, couldn’t agree more. Moved to London in 1977, spent 6 months thinking I was in heaven, & the next 19½ years looking for the exit. Have travelled a fair bit, & lived here & there, & I’m afraid London, by miles. is the worst pest hole I’ve seen. The dirt, the noise, the overcrowding, the antique facilities, the viciously aggressive inhabitants, the insane prices, it has it all. There’s worse traffic in plenty of places (Capetown & Sydney famously, & Kathmandu takes some beating, but the worst I’ve ever come across was Lusaka in Zambia), bigger crowds here & there, dirt & poverty almost everywhere, more blatant overpricing sometimes, etc., but London just manages to be one of the worst in pretty well every category I can think of, with no redeeming features at all. Even the much-lauded parks & green spaces are no more than average. So, yeah, you’re welcome to it. Just please stop assuming it’s the centre of the Universe & entitled to dominate everything else. It isn’t & it isn’t.
          I live only 10 miles outside the M25, & here if I’m on the bike & trying to join a queue of traffic, cars stop to let me in – ’nuff said?

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          • Clem Fandango
            July 28, 2026 at 1:00 pm
            4

            @oceandweller Thanks Nige

          • Bezzard74
            July 28, 2026 at 1:25 pm
            6

            @oceandweller Viciously aggressive inhabitants?
            Can the trolls try harder please.

          • Rendel Harris
            July 28, 2026 at 2:54 pm
            7

            @oceandweller So you spent two decades living in a place you hate with no redeeming features at all? Doesn’t that make you a bit stupid? We don’t have border guards you know, everyone is free to leave at any time. But yeah, apart from an arts and culture scene that makes London regularly top the polls not only as an overall cultural destination but in numerous categories with three world-leading symphony orchestras, an astonishing collection of galleries and museums (most of them free), world-renowned theatre and opera and so on, so many green spaces and trees (Richmond Park and Hampstead Heath “average”? Really?) that London actually technically qualifies as a forest, a two-millenium history that has left some of the greatest Gothic,Renaissance and Baroque buildings to be found anywhere, one of the best combined mass transit systems, some of the most famous sporting venues, clubs and tournaments in the world, an incredibly vibrant popular culture of gigs and comedy, amazing pubs, an astonishing range of restaurants covering every style and culture, lower crime rates than many other parts of the UK, comparable to or lower than similar European cities and far lower than any city in the USA of remotely comparable size, some of the cleanest air of any major capital city… as for the “vicious” inhabitants, as in most places you get what you bring, if you’re friendly and open and kind you’ll get it back. Perhaps you aren’t. Drivers in London are no worse than in any other major city I’ve cycled in, and I’ve cycled in a lot, and a lot better than some other places, and the rapidly-expanding cycle networks and infrastructure are making cycling safer every year. No redeeming features at all. Weird that so many people from all over the world seem desperate to live here and that outside the far east, specifically Hong Kong and Bangkok, we are the world’s most visited tourist destination, ain’t it?

          • jackcycles
            July 28, 2026 at 3:27 pm
            0

            @Rendel Harris take time to breathe in your rant! Paragraphs help.

            Oceandweller is perfectly entitled to give his lived experience of London life without being shouted down.

            “Viciously aggressive inhabitants”? Yep, checks out!….. After all, here’s a guy (according to Gemini) who has such a potty mouth that his own case got thrown out of court for being viciously aggressive on his own video.

          • Rendel Harris
            July 28, 2026 at 3:44 pm
            8

            @Nigel Thanks for the confirmation that you are indeed Nigel, road.cc mods have declared that any time you attempt to return you will be removed so enjoy your latest pathetic little run, you’ll be going the way of your other twenty-eight personas soon.

        • Bezzard74
          July 28, 2026 at 1:22 pm
          3

          @jackcycles Utter bs. The worst pass i’ve ever seen, on a club mate, was in Essex.

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    • MaxiMinimalist
      July 28, 2026 at 5:29 pm
      0

      Said motorists remain mentally ill when they aren’t behind the wheel.

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  2. mitsky
    July 28, 2026 at 11:10 am
    3

    Regarding the road rage incident, should Road CC/London Cycling et al look into obtaining the video from the driver behind to help bring the criminal (yes, that is what they are based on the incident description) to justice?

    Whilst we live in the modern world with camera phones, some people still feel it is fine to behave like this presumably as they feel the chances of facing any repercussions are low.

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    • Callum Devereux
      July 28, 2026 at 12:13 pm
      5

      @mitsky In this case the cyclist didn’t want the footage, although on this topic, Ryan will have an update on the West Yorkshire ‘dangerous cycling’ case later this afternoon… 🙂

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      • mitsky
        July 28, 2026 at 12:56 pm
        2

        @Callum Devereux Thanks for the update.

        With regards to the cyclist (victim) not wanting the footage, presumably the police can still review the footage if it is obtained and make a decision on whether to prosecute.

        And whilst at the time the cyclist said to the driver behind that she didn’t want it, there is a chance that she could change her mind and look to pursue it soon/later.

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  3. the little onion
    July 28, 2026 at 11:10 am
    10

    Remember kids, every time you feed the troll, they go off for a crafty w@Nk.

    Don’t feed the troll.

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  4. EK Spinner
    July 29, 2026 at 8:52 am
    0

    “carefully/slowly weaving through some cars …… and while trying to squeeze through the last bit”

    Maybe its just me but maybe these are the lines that start off the driver on the irrational road rage, Yes we are allowed to filter through traffic but sometimes a bit of patience is required too. If you are ending up so close that you are making contact with someone else’s property then maybe just hold back a little until there is space.

    I am not attempting to justify or suggest that the response was proportionate but lets be honest the chances are that the OP may have played down thier own actions that triggered the nutter.

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