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slc wrote:

There wiil be some people outside the scheme that are affected other than being denied rat-runs. Google Maps is now routing drivers down Troopers Hill Rd and along Crews Hole Rd rather than Beaufort Rd/Blackswarth Rd. Neither are any better suited for heavy traffic than Beaufort Rd. Crews Hole Rd has long been a traffic nightmare. Troopers Hill Road not so much, but its gradient means that it is very poorly suited.

I just played around a little with Google Maps with directions going from Hanham/Warmley toTemple Meads and that didn’t choose Crews Hole Rd. The main routes were A420 or Whitehall Rd with only a couple of minutes difference between them.

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chrisonabike wrote:

Votes for rat-runs then!

I’m unclear how simply considering the views of people who travel through an area is voting for rat-runs. No need to explain though.

Well, a large amount of traffic going along e.g. Beaufort Rd would be people not living in St George but merely travelling through the area and aiming to avoid the traffic along Church Rd (the parallel main road A420). They may well want to vote against the scheme as Beaufort Road no longer allows them to use it like that – i.e. rat-running. I live in a side road that connects Church Rd and Beaufort Rd and previously quite a bit of traffic along our road was just people rat-running – it’s so much quieter now which is appropriate as these are residential roads (also very narrow with parking along both sides).

Ideally, it’s going to be local residents that change their behaviour and walk/cycle instead of just automatically driving to the shops – there’s an Aldi, Tesco and a selection of independent shops along Church Rd just a few minutes away.

However, it’s local residents that will feel the benefit of the schemes, so people just travelling throught the area are almost certain to not want their choice of routes to be restricted – they want to rat run through our streets.

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SaveTheWail wrote:

It’s a shame there’s no picture of this:

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/truck-carrying-ice-rink-citys-30439083

Noice!

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slc wrote:

[quote=slc]Some locals (apart from road.cc regulars) like the scheme. Admittedly in the Beaufort Rd section where the carrot (end of what was pretty unpleasant rat running) is large and the stick (drivers required to take different but ultimately similar route home) is small. https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/meet-residents-who-celebrating-east-9730539%5B/quote%5D

I think it’s fair to say that there’s more congestion along Blackswarth Rd and Church Rd now, but it’s early on and people are still adapting.

Beaufort Rd seems transformed now from being a major rat-running route to a quiet road running alongside the cemetery that is ideal for walking along rather than breathing in all the fumes from Church Rd.

If Marsh Lane gets converted (I haven’t seen if they’ve managed to do it yet), I bet that will completely change the nature of that road too.

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Just spray a load of builder

Just spray a load of builder’s sealant around the windows to eliminate drafts

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brooksby wrote:

https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/liveable-neighbourhood-opponents-continue-protests-9732264

Stephanie, …, said that although she doesn’t disagree with active travel she doesn’t think there is the local ‘infrastructure to support it.’ Like others against the scheme, she has raised concerns about its roll out increasing traffic and air pollution and said she has witnessed an increase in dangerous driving in the last few weeks, including ‘horrific queuing’ outside St Patrick’s Primary School on Blackswarth Road.

“When people are forced to drive where they don’t want to go, they drive more recklessly. With car doors opening and kids running out, it’s extremely dangerous,” added Stephanie.

Photos have been shared on social media of cars driving over green patches on Netham Road to get around queued traffic. But those in favour of the scheme point out that these drivers should be reported to the police before they end up hitting children making their way to and from school and demonstrate the dominance that cars have in our city.

Also in that article there’s this bit:

One local mum who works in Barton Hill and drives from there to Whitehall everyday to pick up her children from school said she found herself 15 minutes late due to an increase in traffic. She left her work at Barton Hill Trading Estate at 2.45pm but claimed what would usually be a ten-minute car journey or 26 minutes by foot, took her over 45 minutes as a result of an increase in traffic congestion.

So, it looks like she can choose a 45 minute drive or a 26 minute walk. It’s almost as if the scheme is encouraging people to walk short distances instead of driving.

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Article on the BBC –

Article on the BBC – “thousands” demand halt:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c6296300l05o

Whilst many of the measures were yet to be completed, those that were elsewhere had been welcomed. In St George, through traffic was now blocked from accessing Beaufort Road, a notorious rat run.

Sabrina Fairchild, who lived nearby said: “It was never this quiet before, it was constant traffic. It has created more of a community feel and made it a nicer place to live.”

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stonojnr wrote:

[quote=stonojnr]Its that time of year again, the annual Network Rail most hit railway bridge by HGVs list, a mere 1532 this past year, so only 1 every 6 hours. And it’s Stutney Road bridge near Ely that takes the top prize 18 hits, so roughly 1 every 3 weeks. https://www.networkrailmediacentre.co.uk/news/britains-most-struck-bridges-unveiled-network-rail-highlights-top-risk-spots-for-road-safety-awareness-week%5B/quote%5D

Looks like they’ve got hi-viz, so maybe some kind of bridge helmet is needed?

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Opinion piece on B24/7. I

Opinion piece on B24/7. I found it a bit placatory towards the people against LTNs, but then I’m just sick of motornormativity driving city and neighbourhood designs. Nobody cared about people not wanting cars polluting our air, blocking pavements, maiming and killing people when building new roads. It’s time for change.

https://www.bristol247.com/opinion/your-say/shouldnt-stop-east-bristol-liveable-neighbourhood-but-have-listen-detractors/

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David9694 wrote:

Trying to create a new LTN in Bristol: Bizarre parking on West Country street as Audi mounts parked car

Onlookers were left scratching their heads

https://www.devonlive.com/news/uk-world-news/bizarre-parking-west-country-street-9720716

Egged on by the others, the youngest of the Audis makes the first move.Young and hopeful, it moves in to strike, however youth and inexperience play against the youngling. It attempts it’s first mounting maneouvre, relying on it’s target not being able to move out of the way, but clearly has no idea how to do the deed.

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David9694 wrote:

Van gets sinking feeling on Cornish beach as surfer glides by

Visitors to a popular Cornish beach watched as the sea engulfed the unfortunate vehicle

https://www.devonlive.com/news/devon-news/van-gets-sinking-feeling-cornish-9721002

Bloody surfers don’t even pay their wave tax

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andystow wrote:

andystow wrote:

Front wheel trued and tensioned last night. I think it took me well over an hour.

It looks round to me

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the little onion wrote:

I didn’t remove the sound because I didn’t think that it mattered – quite clearly the swearing was in reaction to an act of frankly horrid aggressive driving, so it was clearly reasonable. I simply could not imagine that it was a public order offence. And also, my reaction in the video just underlined how bad the driving was, if it weren’t readily apparent. Once again, genuinely gobsmacked at the police reaction.

To be charitable to the police (though I wonder why I should), they’re acting on a specific complaint raised by the motorist and so are doing their job. However, I wonder why they didn’t just send you a warning letter instead which would have been far more appropriate. Ideally they should treat the swearing as a natural consequence of the driver’s abysmal driving. It’d be like prosecuting a stabbing victim for bleeding on the pavement.

I sincerely hope that the case just gets thrown out as a complete waste of time and money.

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Looks like some Barton Hill

Looks like some Barton Hill residents don’t want the Liverpool Neighbourhood or at least not Marsh Lane to be a no-through-road:

https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/residents-take-streets-stop-liveable-9716152

I’m somewhat torn as I’m all for closing off roads to rat-running, but I also like that style of protesting – reminds me of Arthur Dent lying down in front of the bulldozer coming for his house.

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slc wrote:

slc wrote:

I have sympathy for the sign installation guy. The vegetation is overhang from a private garden, so the sign guy may well be instructed to report only. Incidentally, the bus gate enforcement will not begin right away. Apparently there will be some variable signs notifying that.

I’ve just been up Pilemarsh and there were quite a few cars using it too – I imagine quite a few drivers will get caught out when they start enforcement.

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