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slc wrote:
Maybe a problem we would like drivers to have. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx28wr7lge1o But also an opportunity to float my geometric council tax for cars plan. £512 per tonne per year for the first motor vehicle registered to an address. £1024 for the second, £2048 for the third, £4096, … . Rising with RPI of course.However, Selin Akdenez, who is a single mum and drives an SUV, says parking in London is already expensive, and the prospect of paying more for residential parking is something that she couldn’t afford.“I disagree because I have a child so I do have to have a bigger car,” she says. “My mother is really old. If she needs a GP appointment or dentist, I have to take her.”
I thought that a child is typically smaller than an adult, so why do you need an SUV to fit one? I’m fairly sure from my failing memory that I’ve seen families going on holiday with MULTIPLE children in just a standard car.
slc wrote:
Agreed, largely. I have a bit (not too much) of sympathy for the ‘not consulted’ claim. I replied to the original consultation as did many others and the top items were improved crossings and junctions. These were ruled out as impossible for a trial – too expensive – but they are needed. Working on those and a smaller LTN might have been less contentious and increased the chances of acceptance across Bristol. Or maybe drivers would moan about even the loss of the odd parking space.I definitely agree that we could do with better crossings and junctions.
Obviously I’m very firmly on the pedestrian/cyclist side as I don’t drive, but I do think that drivers will complain about any changes as they’ve currently allocated the maximum possible amount of space, so changes are bound to have a negative impact on them. Ultimately, we have to make driving more difficult as there’s far too many cars/drivers on our roads and it’s ruining people’s health.
slc wrote:
[quote=slc]How about this one in the cable? I have not really paid attention to the cable before (not enough cycling clatch, I guess) but it seems to include both balance and some information. https://thebristolcable.org/2024/11/traffic-jams-on-roads-around-east-bristol-liveable-neighbourhood-spark-opposition-as-council-calls-for-patience/?pk_campaign=feed&pk_kwd=traffic-jams-on-roads-around-east-bristol-liveable-neighbourhood-spark-opposition-as-council-calls-for-patience%5B/quote%5D
That’s a better article, though it is quite long.
I was thinking about the LTN opposition and maybe we should come to some kind of compromise. We’ve had the traffic and rat-running for multiple decades now, so how about we just give the LTNs 5-10 years to see how they fare?
I do think the long traffic queues along Blackswarth Road are not what we want when there’s a school along there, but the LTN opponents don’t seem to realise that it’s all the drivers that are causing it – not the LTNs. I do think it’ll take a few weeks for behaviours to change and the traffic to reduce a bit, but I certainly notice the poor air quality along Church Road.
I don’t have any sympathy for the people complaining about there not being enough discussion of the LTNs – the scheme was delayed for years whilst talks and responses were gathered. New roads don’t seem to have any consultations and they usually bring bad air and a much increased chance of injury or death. LTNs have an obviously positive effect on the small roads in the areas and people are foaming at the mouth because their journey takes a bit longer? So the choice is between widespread lung disease or they get from A to B a bit quicker?
(In an article on there about trans-majority drag spaces, there’s an excellent name for a performer: Bellend Lugosi.)
slc wrote:
To be fair, I thought the original was poorly written too, though in a different, high-jargon style. I’m not surprised that someone found it condescending. road.cc’ers will no doubt enjoy the final argument of the rebuttal:
Seems as though Helen Hughes might have missed something from that list of discouragements, but I can’t quite put my finger on it.Bristol’s hills, narrow roads, pot holes and weather patterns do not make cycling conducive…Agreed – I didn’t think either opinion piece was worth reading.
Opinion piece on B24/7. I found it a bit placatory towards the people against LTNs, but then I’m just sick of motornormativity driving city and neighbourhood designs. Nobody cared about people not wanting cars polluting our air, blocking pavements, maiming and killing people when building new roads. It’s time for change.A retaliation in B24/7 against the previous opinion piece: https://www.bristol247.com/opinion/your-say/begrudging-acceptance-among-unhappy-residents-not-sufficient-justify-permanent-liveable-neighbourhood-scheme/
I didn’t read all of it as it just seemed to be slagging off the previous author and I couldn’t see it getting to any serious point. (I don’t have much patience for poor writing)
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A police officer who sparked 2,000 complaints after ramming a cow on a road is returning to frontline duty after an internal investigation cleared him of wrongdoing.The cow, named Beau Lucy, was struck in Staines-upon-Thames on 15 June, leading to complaints from the public after a video clip was shared on social media.
More than 250 pieces of video, 75 witness statements and animal welfare specialists were reviewed, police said.
chrisonabike wrote:
Something Something Brexit… ? (sorry) Anyway I think they should try calling them “loveable neighbourhoods”.I like that, though I usually revert to calling them Liverpool Neighbourhoods to practise the accent
What about squirrels, though?https://www.greatbritishchefs.com/recipes/squirrel-celeriac-lasagne-recipe
I also dislike the term “rat-run” for people who are just trying to get to work, etc.Aren’t rats just trying to go about their business too?
No, you’re thinking of the rat-race.
I think the term “rat-run” is very apt as rats will use gutters, drainpipes etc to avoid busy areas and that’s pretty much exactly what the commuters are doing (not that I think of my road as being a gutter or a drainpipe).
I also live in the area and am not against changes, least of all along Beaufort Road. My objection is to suggestions that the views of people who travel through the area shouldn’t be considered, and that considering them is somehow “Votes for rat-runs”. While I’m here, I also dislike the term “rat-run” for people who are just trying to get to work, etc.The problem is that the number of people travelling through an area can outnumber the residents, so treating it as a democracy is flawed, especially due to our motornormative culture. Yes, there needs to be consideration of traffic flows, but the residential requirement for safety, clean air and reduction in noise pollution needs a higher weighting.
“Rat-running” is an established phrase for people taking smaller side routes to avoid congestion on main roads – maybe it’s an unfortunate name as like you say, it’s just people being people. I don’t dislike the people so much (or at least not the considerate ones), but I do dislike their behaviour.
Erm… “Caecilius est in horto.” 😉Yeah, I bet he’s just lounging around whilst his slave is working in the atrium
slc wrote:
Good, because it really is a poor choice. I cycle along it against the rat run tide about once a week, it is white knuckle stuff at peak times. Part of the LTN scheme involves traffic calming and new crossings on Crews Hole, but later. In my road planning fantasy, that would have happened first (along with congestion charging on Church Road, all funds paying for new bikes for children in Barton Hill).Totally agree – that’s a very nice route for walking along by the river when you’re not forced onto Crews Hole Rd.
A man who took a picture of a ‘Welcome to Florida’ sign while driving allegedly caused a crash that killed his three nephews and niece.Marvin Redondo-Funes, 25, reportedly slowed down to photograph the sign at the Georgia-Florida border while driving from New York with his girlfriend and the four kids.
Redondo-Funes allegedly went down to 1 to 2 mph in order to snap a clear picture of the state line and a car behind him did not see the sudden slow-down and rear-ended him at full speed, according to the Florida Highway Patrol.
Four dead after their uncle ‘took picture of Welcome to Florida sign while driving’
To me that sounds like the following driver caused the crash by not concentrating on what the car ahead was doing. There can be any number of reasons why a car needs to suddenly slow/stop and although photographing a sign shouldn’t be one, it doesn’t mean that following drivers just carry on regardless.
(Not trying to excuse the Uncle as he had the children in the back seat not wearing seat belts and had a suspended/revoked license)
slc wrote:
Try Hanham to Brislington.Seems like only a minority of routes go through Crews Hole Rd from my dragging around the start and stop positions.
Hirsute wrote:
Romanes eunt domusPeople called Romanes they go the house?