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Where in the legislation you quoted does it say that "your not allowed to ride a horse, play golf,canoe or any other sport" ?

Running is ok but not rollerblading?

This is Buckinghamshire - If they're not driving a land rover, they're riding a horse.

Seen 3 or more several times - seems that riding a horse gives immunity, a bit like being a construction worker and highway's maintenance.

I believe that it comes down to the guidence that the prime minster gave on Monday 23 March, which the police would use as guidence as to what is needed for exercise, I think that it comes down to the differnce "can" go out for exercise (which is how everybody is reading it) and the mental and physical need for exerise (which is how the law is written), Golf England have closed all their cources because "Keeping golf courses open is simply no longer compatible with the updated policy of government which is designed to save lives in a time of national emergency.", and if you google "police turn back canoe" you will see some more

Again, I'm not a lawyer

Police round here are putting notices on cars that have driven to walk their dogs "do you need to drive here" as you don't need to drive to walk your dog, a lot of this comes down need rather than can. if you need to leave the house to go rollerblading, go for it, I think runners will be ok as the prime minister mentioned it in the guidence

Again, I'm not a lawyer, just intereted

Golf courses have club houses and are not in the category of establishments allowed to be open to the public.
I found canoeists who were stopped from trying to travel to the lake District from Yorkshire, so I don't think it was the kayaks that were the issue.
Exercise is about solo stuff and avoiding people so anything that fits with that. I'm really not going to take any notice of Gove.

sd

WombleHunter wrote:

Looking at the legisation, i'm not sure if I was stopped by a policeman and he asked me why I needed to be taking exercise for the second time that day, I would be in the right

I'm not a lawyer either, but the advice I've taken (and seen) from people who are, tells me that 'government guidance' is not law, and that irrespective of how often you're abroad, the police cannot tell you that you have 'exercised enough'.  

If they can enforce 'guidance', then I await with anticipation, the arrest of those consuming more than 10 units of alcohol a week (or however much it is).  

cycle.london wrote:

WombleHunter wrote:

Looking at the legisation, i'm not sure if I was stopped by a policeman and he asked me why I needed to be taking exercise for the second time that day, I would be in the right

I'm not a lawyer either, but the advice I've taken (and seen) from people who are, tells me that 'government guidance' is not law, and that irrespective of how often you're abroad, the police cannot tell you that you have 'exercised enough'.  

If they can enforce 'guidance', then I await with anticipation, the arrest of those consuming more than 10 units of alcohol a week (or however much it is).  

There's nothing in the legislation *in England* which says you can only exercise once per day, or for an hour, or within two kilometres of your home.

Yeah but you can shoot cyclists on sight, as they are vermin - spreading the plague around the UK.

You've got to admit that if anyone is going more than 2km from home in Ireland all the way to Bristol they are overdoing it a bit.

"Pillites", actually (genuine fact).  You're welcome.

All together now:

"Pill Pill, I love thee still, even though I'm leaving..."

I thought ther guidlines were for "brief exersise" so as not to diminish your immune system too? 3 x 12hr sessions is far worse than that 300km ride that triathlete did the other day. There seems to be a lot of hippocracy going around.

With all due respect, science has not found any correlations between exercise, regardless of the length or intensity, and immunosuppression. In fact, the opposite has been found. Please check out Dylan Johnson's (a science based cycling coach) video on the subject for more details.

Don't most of Team Inios have severe ashma and terrible allergies requiring huge amounts of powerful medication.  I would have thought taking it a bit easy, getting a bit of exercise but not pushing it.

They must be part of the high risk groups?

I do watch Dylan Johnson, very good he is too. And I don't think long rides effect your immune system if thats what your used to doing. I do believe when you get super fit and trained up for a grand tour or something it's bound to put stress on your immune system though. Personally I've been keeping going as usual'ish (within our Irish 2km from home limit) and even managed a couple of Everesting "base camp" rides in the last week. It's when people moan at some for doing a long ride or whatever and then see a 100yo bloke walking up and down his garden for hours, someone Everesting the stairs in their house or running a marathon around their garden and they think thats great. Thats what annoys me.

Tim K wrote:

I do believe when you get super fit and trained up for a grand tour or something it's bound to put stress on your immune system though. 

That might be so. Or maybe not. Science doesn't rely on "I do believe" and "is bound to".

dogenzenji wrote:

With all due respect, science has not found any correlations between exercise, regardless of the length or intensity, and immunosuppression. In fact, the opposite has been found. Please check out Dylan Johnson's (a science based cycling coach) video on the subject for more details.

Up to a level of exertion / exercise  ( depending on fitness / age / etc.) the body produces an increased number of  killer cells, which boosts the effect of the immune system regarding attacks from pathogens. Above that level, fatigue will largely negate the effect.

ahhh, not true? please show me the conclusive research that shows direct causation of reduced immune system as a result of lengthy exercise. Hint: you'll be looking for a long time...

I don't know if it's true. I saw at least 10 different conflicting scientific arguments one way and the other at the begining of this and if they can't make their mind up how could i? I was talking of the hippocracy of what people are coming out with and the things they consider right and wrong not any science behind it. 

Tim K wrote:

There seems to be a lot of hippocracy going around.

Horseriders think they're above the law.

If the law is not also on a horse, they probably are....

srchar wrote:

Tim K wrote:

There seems to be a lot of hippocracy going around.

Horseriders think they're above the law.

The average IQ of road.cc readers seems to be going up!

Tim K wrote:

There seems to be a lot of hippocracy going around.

Hippos are ok, leave them out of it.

Yep, I find it odd that those with the 99% of the money are wanting money off those with 1%. 100k is small change in the world of sport.

People like Lewis Hamilton get paid £75m a year, avoid tax for the NHS and then ask those that pay tax to also be charitable.

I don't think Lewis "cash is king" Hamilton gets irony.

Look at that indignation...

And what about that odious smug twat Lineker? Or the swamp donkey Lily Allen? Going to Calais to cry and apologise to the refugees 'on behalf of Britain'. Don't apologise on my behalf you silly little fuckpig.

ktache wrote:

I'm not knocking G's charitable efforts to raise money for the NHS, but wouldn't have paying taxes in the country that brought him up rather than disappearing to Monaco have contributed far more?

Good point, so he's effectively taking money from people who have already been taxed (paid for the NHS) and giving them it as his own lol

That doesn't look like Monaco and why pick on him? How about tapping Amazon, Google, Micorsoft etc for the pittance they pay in taxes? Or is it because likeThomas they are following the rules that allow them to avoid paying a fair share?