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Froome v Celebs Zwift race; US racer flags YouTuber’s response to Instagram post about race struggles; Costa offers bizarre excuse for refusing to serve people on bikes at drive-through; Police wrongly claim arresting bike thief would be entrapment + more

Today’s live blog with Alex Bowden (daytime) and Simon MacMichael (evening)
  • by Alex Bowden
Thu, Jun 04, 2020 08:20
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SUMMARY

  • Mental health nurse found her stolen bike for sale – police told her intervening would be entrapment
  • 'Entrapment' argument is not right
  • Met’s ‘entrapment’ argument – detective superintendent intervenes
  • Only five cycle helmets available in the UK given 'recommended' status in new safety testing
  • Remember Michele Scarponi's macaw, Frankie, who joined him on training rides? She's back!
  • Video: Leicester pop-up bike lanes and 'time to travel'
  • Turkmenistan's president bloody loves cycling
  • Here's a video of Turkmenistan's president shooting stuff while riding his bike
  • US racer highlights Durianrider’s reply to his Instagram post about race struggles – says Aussie YouTuber is ‘a joke’
  • Costa Coffee offers bizarre excuse for refusing to serve people on bikes at drive-through (then backtracks, but you still can't get coffee)
  • Costa update: Adam refuses to put down the spade
  • Sheffield City Region announces plans for 1,000km of walking and cycling routes
  • PedalMe now cheaper than Uber
  • Dr Ian Walker is planning a big ride (without going far)
  • A stolen bike 'entrapment' question
  • Froome to take on various celebrities in televised charity Zwift race
  • Froome v Celebs update: Flintoff a potential DNS
  • Wondering about Kevin Pietersen's cycling credentials?
  • AA president says government should introduce “road miles” pricing system for drivers
4 June 2020, 08:20

Mental health nurse found her stolen bike for sale – police told her intervening would be entrapment

A mental health nurse whose bike was stolen has been told by police that it would be entrapment if they were to intervene after she found it for sale online.

Joey emerged from a 12-hour shift on Wednesday to find that her bike had been stolen. The theft was caught on CCTV.

She later found the bike for sale on Gumtree, but the police response has now left her feeling that she put, “too much work into it.”

Gumtree also refused to take the ad down.

Joey’s case has been taken up by Jeremy Vine, who says unless they review that decision, she will be left having to buy her own bike back.

My brilliant neighbour Joey is a mental health nurse.
Last night her bike was stolen.
It turned up on Gumtree – but when she gave police the name and address of the thief, they said they couldn’t help because her investigative work would make it entrapment.
This is NUTS. pic.twitter.com/AmyxsWGzWi

— Jeremy Vine (@theJeremyVine) June 3, 2020

4 June 2020, 08:20

'Entrapment' argument is not right

The Met’s claim that approaching a bike thief selling on Gumtree would be entrapment (see below) is… not right.

It is not right at all.

It is not even nearly right, because of course no-one is being tricked into committing a crime – the crime has already been committed.

Surely if the crime has already been committed, there’s no issue of entrapment? https://t.co/8mB5MKBFYv

— Jeremy Vine (@theJeremyVine) June 3, 2020

The bike has already been stolen and the stolen goods are already for sale.

4 June 2020, 08:20

Met’s ‘entrapment’ argument – detective superintendent intervenes

Detective Superintendent Andy Cox, the Met’s head of road safety and transport policing, has got involved.

@theJeremyVine I am keen we resolve this for Joey and provide an appropriate level of service. Please can you send me the relevant details including reference numbers and I’ll make sure the matter is looked into. Thank you.

— Andy Cox (@SuptAndyCox) June 3, 2020

He’s not yet saying the force was definitely wrong with its ‘entrapment argument.

It seems he’s rather wisely reserving judgement until he’s heard the explanation first-hand.

It certainly appears so Lenny. Though sometimes face value understanding doesn’t always understand the full details. Though I’ll ensure we properly look into this now and take whatever action possible.

— Andy Cox (@SuptAndyCox) June 3, 2020

4 June 2020, 08:20

Only five cycle helmets available in the UK given 'recommended' status in new safety testing

New safety testing, funded by the Road Safety Trust and conducted by insurance company Folksam, saw just eight helmets receive a ‘recommended’ mark.

Of these, only five are readily available in the UK.

Full story here.

Thoughts…?

4 June 2020, 08:20

Remember Michele Scarponi's macaw, Frankie, who joined him on training rides? She's back!

Frankie is a female blue and yellow macaw who would often ride along perched on Michele Scarponi’s shoulder or helmet during his training rides.

After Scarponi was killed in a road traffic collision in April 2017, his friend and fellow pro, Luis Angel Maté also went for a ride with her, at one point saying, “How much we miss our friend, eh?” before she flew off.

It seems she’s gone for a ride with Antonio Nibali this week.

Beautiful – Frankie is back. Riding with Antonio Nibali now. https://t.co/GEeXpIDQwx

— Ned Boulting (@nedboulting) June 4, 2020

4 June 2020, 08:20

Video: Leicester pop-up bike lanes and 'time to travel'

Chris Boardman makes a point about a small element of this; that it’s good to see how long a journey will take by bike, rather than how far it is.

4 June 2020, 08:20

Turkmenistan's president bloody loves cycling

Turkmenistan’s president loves cycling (“velosport”), he bloody loves it. Here he is walking around a giant monument erected to cycling as a song about cycling is performed in the background pic.twitter.com/3EjmaZgJz7

— Peter Leonard (@Peter__Leonard) June 3, 2020

In 2013, the Independent reported that Gurbanguly Berdimuhamedow had ordered all citizens to buy bikes in preparation for a mass event.

Before you get any ideas about emigrating, we should probably add that human rights groups say Turkmenistan is one of the world’s most repressive regimes.

4 June 2020, 08:20

Here's a video of Turkmenistan's president shooting stuff while riding his bike

4 June 2020, 08:20

US racer highlights Durianrider’s reply to his Instagram post about race struggles – says Aussie YouTuber is ‘a joke’

If you ever watch cycling videos online (which you do), you’ll almost certainly have happened across Australian YouTuber, Durianrider, at some point.

Durianrider – real name Harley Johnstone – is known for having, shall we say, robust opinions on many things.

He’s been involved in several controversies. The last time we reported on him he said he’d been ‘ambushed’ and assaulted in public by someone known to him.

This week Cory and Justin Williams of the L39ION cycling team in Los Angeles have been speaking on Instagram about how race has affected their opportunities and about what they’re doing to effect change. (You can find Cory here and Justin here.)

Cory has published the following Durianrider reply to one of his posts.

 
 
 
 
View this post on Instagram
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

I’m glad I can show you all examples right away… this guy is a joke @durianriders 💀

A post shared by Cory Williams (@nationsnumber1beast) on Jun 3, 2020 at 1:04pm PDT

We’ve heard that several recent posts on Durianrider’s own Instagram account have been reported by users. Some have been taken down, but he is still trying to engage with Williams despite having been blocked – even going so far as to ask him to appear on his podcast.

He also seems to have been replying using his girlfriend’s account after being blocked.

4 June 2020, 08:20

Costa Coffee offers bizarre excuse for refusing to serve people on bikes at drive-through (then backtracks, but you still can't get coffee)

The road worthy, taxed and insured comment seems odd

Are they going to check the car and drivers documents defore it enters the drive through. pic.twitter.com/lN2OsBJbL3

— Bike Rogers (@bike_rogers) June 4, 2020

Hey Victoria, this is correct. Due to strict health and safety guidelines, our teams will not serve any customer that is not in a vehicle when passing through one of our Drive-Thru lanes. Apologies for any disappointment caused. – Sam

— Costa Coffee (@CostaCoffee) May 28, 2020

You’re not taxed or insured to be on the road ^Adam

— Costa Coffee (@CostaCoffee) May 28, 2020

I was incorrect on the tax and insurance piece. Apologies – our policy still doesn’t allow bikes in the drive thru lane ^Adam

— Costa Coffee (@CostaCoffee) June 4, 2020

4 June 2020, 08:20

Costa update: Adam refuses to put down the spade

I thought it was to do with the bikes not being insured/taxed – I assumed that and was incorrect. For health and safety we don’t allow pedestrians or bikes in case of accidents ^Adam

— Costa Coffee (@CostaCoffee) June 4, 2020

4 June 2020, 08:20

Sheffield City Region announces plans for 1,000km of walking and cycling routes

The Sheffield City Region is planning over 620 miles of accessible walking and cycling routes by 2040.

Plans include a high-quality segregated cycle route along the A6178 to connect Rotherham, Meadowhall and Sheffield.

The network will also feature nearly 200 square miles of low traffic neighbourhoods.

Today @SCR_Mayor & @DameSarahStorey reveal #ActiveTravel plans for South #Yorkshire. Developed with local authorities & 4000+ public comments, the plan includes:

🚲1000km of routes
🚶‍♂️ 800 safe crossings
👨‍🦽 320km2 of low traffic neighbourhoods
https://t.co/RQ6SDdo2fV pic.twitter.com/Z0vXZzhrz3

— Sheffield City Region (@SheffCityRegion) June 4, 2020

Mayor Dan Jarvis said: “Active travel has always been at the heart of my transport vision for South Yorkshire. The benefits walking and cycling bring to all aspects of our lives are great and I am proud of how quickly we have developed this plan alongside our local authorities. Active travel is good for our health, good for the planet and good for the economy.

“We are in the midst of one the largest public health crisis in a generation and as we recover from coronavirus, we have an opportunity to change

“No one wants to return to gridlocked roads and polluted town centres, and this landmark strategy sets out how we can build back better. The aim should not be to go back to the status quo, it should be to make this a moment of fundamental change for our region and our country.

“Active travel should be part of an even wider strategy – a green new deal to transform our economy, create millions of new jobs, and counter the economic damage the pandemic has caused.

“I am pleased that the Government is allocating emergency funds to enable us to make space for pedestrians and cyclists in the age of social distancing, but this money must be released promptly.

“In the short term, we need to take the pressure off a stretched public transport system which is running at a fraction of its normal capacity, and prevent the gridlock which will be caused by people turning to their car. In the long term, we need sustained funding for active travel to enable us to deliver a green new deal for South Yorkshire.”

Dame Sarah Storey, Active Travel Commissioner, said: “During the first year of my appointment there has been an unwavering commitment to create this plan and I am delighted we can now publish it for all to see.

“Our local authorities have risen to the challenge to create an ambitious plan and are committed to redistributing road space and enabling active travel in a way that hasn’t been seen before. Our plan gives a clear goal – a network of routes linking up low traffic neighbourhoods.

“During the coronavirus pandemic we have seen an even greater demand for safe space for walking and cycling, as social distancing reduces public transport capacity and people look to maintain new exercise habits that were formed at the height of the lockdown.

“Creating space for active travel is creating space for everyone. It means that not having access to a car will no longer be a barrier to getting around. From safe streets for children to get to school, to pavements free from inconsiderately parked vehicles that block the way for people in wheelchairs and parents with pushchairs, walking and cycling provision ensures everyone can enjoy they place they live and travel safely and easily to the places they want to go.

“I was pleased to see the response from Government to the letter written by Mayor Jarvis and I about prioritising active travel in the recovery from the coronavirus pandemic but we need this money now so we can begin to make our roads more pleasant places to be for those on foot or on bikes.”

4 June 2020, 08:20

PedalMe now cheaper than Uber

PedalMe, the pedal-powered passenger and cargo service operating in London, says it’s cheaper than Uber after dropping its prices.

..to help people use us.

We’re now cheaper than Uber for any passenger journey over 2 miles – and a whole lot more hygienic and better for the city.

Get involved: https://t.co/sOrVdsqlkr

— Pedal Me (@pedalmeapp) June 4, 2020

4 June 2020, 08:20

Dr Ian Walker is planning a big ride (without going far)

Dr Ian Walker, the environmental psychologist who features semi-regularly on this website in one capacity or another – most recently for becoming the Guinness World Record holder for the fastest crossing of Europe – has a bit of time on his hands fairly imminently.

His plans seem fairly self-explanatory.

I’ve decided to do something silly next week #screwyoucovid pic.twitter.com/u2BkxdpkkN

— Ian Walker (@ianwalker) June 4, 2020

4 June 2020, 08:20

A stolen bike 'entrapment' question

Further to the story we kicked things off with this morning where police refused to address a stolen bike being sold on Gumtree, arguing it was ‘entrapment’ (8.20am).

Bikercub makes a great point in the comments:

Entrapment
Entrapment (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Entrapment
Entrapment (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

 

4 June 2020, 08:20

Froome to take on various celebrities in televised charity Zwift race

Chris Froome is to take on a host of celebrities in a live Zwift race on Sunday night.

The charity event has been organised with former England cricketer Kevin Pietersen to raise money for Wheels for Heroes.

The aim is to raise enough for 1,000 bikes for NHS staff.

“Kevin actually made the suggestion to do a charity event on Zwift back in April, so I’m really glad we have managed to get this off the ground,” said Froome.

“Our NHS workers have been truly inspiring, but with travel restrictions, it’s still difficult for them to travel to and from their place of work. These new bikes will truly make a difference and provide a safe means for our NHS workers to travel safely during COVID-19.”

‘The Race’ will see Froome take on Pietersen and other celebrity guests on Zwift’s Volcano circuit.

Participants will be gridded at the start with riders setting off at intervals dictated by the results of their FTP tests.

Those taking part will include Mel C, Olly Murs, Ryan Giggs, Andrew Flintoff, Lee Westwood, Maro Itoje, Steph Houghton, Darren Gough and Kirsty Gallacher. 

The Race will be broadcast on Sky Sports Main Event, Arena and Mix, as well as Zwift’s YouTube channel at 7.30pm.

It will be hosted by Laura Woods, Romesh Ranganathan and Matt Stephens.

Can’t wait to see Froome hopping out of the way of 90mph bouncers in the return leg.

4 June 2020, 08:20

Froome v Celebs update: Flintoff a potential DNS

Not sure I’m in contention on Sunday not been on the thing yet and probably won’t do now . Can’t change my peddle 🤦🏼‍♂️ @DGoughie @WestwoodLee pic.twitter.com/bPHtMY06rD

— Andrew Flintoff (@flintoff11) June 4, 2020

Can’t spell it either.

4 June 2020, 08:20

Wondering about Kevin Pietersen's cycling credentials?

Not exactly in Froome’s class, but decent.

PROGRESS! @wattbike @GoZwift

If I race you now, @chrisfroome, I’d win the downhills! 🤣 pic.twitter.com/Q5BhOBf8q7

— Kevin Pietersen🦏 (@KP24) May 14, 2020

If you’re thinking in W/kg, it’s worth pointing out that KP’s a big guy (6ft4in, 1.93m).

As for the other cricketers, Flintoff often rides around Cheshire and in 2014 took on a 1,200km ride along the Trans-Amazonian Highway.

He was also credited with saving the life of a fellow cyclist on a 2012 charity ride. Hopefully such actions won’t be necessary on this occasion (not least because social distancing measures mean he won’t actually be anywhere near any of the competitors).

Darren Gough took to cycling for the 2016 Channel 5 series, Tour de Celeb.

The most significant cyclist-cricketer of recent times is probably Matt Prior, who set up the One Pro cycling team. However, he and Pietersen are not what you’d call ‘great mates’ after falling out during an Ashes tour.

4 June 2020, 08:20

AA president says government should introduce “road miles” pricing system for drivers

AA president Edmund King says the government should introduce a “road miles” pricing system for drivers, reports the Guardian.

He’s advocated this before. In 2017, he and his wife Deirdre – a former economist at the British Road Federation – saw it shortlisted for the 2017 Wolfson Economics Prize.

Speaking at the time, he said:  “We set up a system where every driver in the UK gets at least 3,000 road miles free – so it’s free access to the road network – but then after that, there is then a small charge.”

They said that financial modelling projected total revenue above current Government revenue by an average of 3.4 per cent per annum over a decade.

Speaking at a virtual conference organised by the Energy and Climate Intelligence Unit this week, King said of the idea: “It makes you think about the trip and if you have a cleaner greener vehicle you can pay less … We need some radical thinking and perhaps now the time is right for the Treasury and others to address these bigger issues that politically they have been quite wary of addressing before.”

He is also hopeful that lockdown will have changed at least some people’s ideas about how to get about.

“I am optimistic that this lockdown is beginning to change the attitudes of drivers … If local authorities can put in well planned infrastructure to walk and to cycle – and public transport when that returns – I do feel that can have a credible difference,” he said.

“The time is right at the moment because people are out there and they themselves had seen the benefits of walking and cycling and running … it is a real opportunity.”

4 June 2020, 08:20

NHS worker makes DIY cycling top to highlight to drivers that he's on duty after receiving abuse and aggression

NHS worker makes DIY cycling top to highlight to drivers that he's on duty after receiving abuse and aggression

Max deSancha says he made it “as a last ditch effort to get motorists to treat me like a human being,”

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19 thoughts on “Froome v Celebs Zwift race; US racer flags YouTuber’s response to Instagram post about race struggles; Costa offers bizarre excuse for refusing to serve people on bikes at drive-through; Police wrongly claim arresting bike thief would be entrapment + more”

  1. rct
    June 4, 2020 at 8:51 am
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    Can we have more police like

    Can we have more police like Andy Cox.

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  2. Mungecrundle
    June 4, 2020 at 9:59 am
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    Good to know that those hard
    Good to know that those hard working citizens diligently earning a living by fencing stolen goods have the full backing of the platforms they advertise on and protection from the constabulary against self entitled owners wanting their property back.

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    • Compact Corned Beef
      June 4, 2020 at 10:52 am
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      I’m off to break a pensioner

      I’m off to break a pensioner’s jaw, steal their stuff and sell it on right now! Gosh, the opportunities afforded to an entreprenuerially-minded bod in this day and age.

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  3. bikercub
    June 4, 2020 at 10:12 am
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    If Joey had to buy her own

    If Joey had to buy her own bike back, wouldn’t she then be “receiving stolen goods”?  Which is also a crime… that she’s been forced into… which is entrapment… 

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  4. brooksby
    June 4, 2020 at 11:14 am
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    On the Costa Coffee drive

    On the Costa Coffee drive through thing:  Given some of the statistics I’ve read, I don’t imagine they’ll have very many customers if they’re going to check that every motor vehicle is “road worthy”, taxed, and insured…

    (They are going to actively check, aren’t they?  Cos otherwise what they’re saying sounds like a load of horlicks…).

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    • eburtthebike
      June 4, 2020 at 11:28 am
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      brooksby wrote:

      On the Costa Coffee drive through thing:  Given some of the statistics I’ve read, I don’t imagine they’ll have very many customers if they’re going to check that every motor vehicle is “road worthy”, taxed, and insured…

      (They are going to actively check, aren’t they?  Cos otherwise what they’re saying sounds like a load of horlicks…).

      — brooksby

      I’m absolutely sure that Costa have a link to DVLA in every shop and check the reg, insurance, mot and VED details of every car, as well as inspecting the tyres of each vehicle to ensure that they aren’t below the wear limits.

      I wonder what would happen if you turned up on a bike but wearing a nurse’s uniform?

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  5. kil0ran
    June 4, 2020 at 11:24 am
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    The best thing Costa could do

    The best thing Costa could do for Health and Safety is not serve food and drink to drivers at a drive thru. You’re basically facilitating distracted & one-handed driving by serving them. And typically on a motorway. I’m amazed they’re licensed to do it.

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    • PRSboy
      June 4, 2020 at 3:41 pm
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      The story reminds me of some

      The story reminds me of some mates who tried to visit McDonalds after a night at the pub.  Were told they couldn’t walk through the drive thru, so they got their bikes.  Were told it had to be a motorised vehicle.

      So they went round again, going “Brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrm”.  Still weren’t served.

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  6. Notbuilt2climb
    June 4, 2020 at 11:48 am
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    Genuine questions here as I’m

    Genuine questions here as I’m not that bright.

    If Costa are suggesting all vehicles using their drive thrus are road worthy, taxed & insured, does that mean the drive thru is classed as a highway & would your vehicle insurance cover you for an accident whilst driving through a drive thru?

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    • spen
      June 4, 2020 at 12:08 pm
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      Presumably they also have

      Presumably they also have anpr cameras, someway of turning away uninsured vehicles and that they report all such vehicles to the rozzers.  Nope, thought not

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      • Awavey
        June 4, 2020 at 1:07 pm
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        They do,but that’s to record
        They do,but that’s to record how long you park in their carpark so they can send you a fine for overstaying

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      • Awavey
        June 4, 2020 at 1:07 pm
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        They do,but that’s to record
        They do,but that’s to record how long you park in their carpark so they can send you a fine for overstaying

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    • Hirsute
      June 4, 2020 at 12:22 pm
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      Generally such public

      Generally such public accessible spaces are covered by the RTAs. Your insurance should cover you in private property too – otherwise you’d be in the shit if you hit someone on their driveway (unless you are pc box of course)

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  7. Hirsute
    June 4, 2020 at 12:20 pm
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    Costa Coffee

    Costa Coffee

    It is dangerous for me to be in a stationary/slow moving queue but going 20mph on the road overtaken by 40-50 mph vehicles is safe?

    What exactly is the danger ?

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    • Sriracha
      June 5, 2020 at 10:07 am
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      The danger could be from
      The danger could be from queuing behind upmteen exhaust pipes breathing it all in for 10-20 minutes. But the real reason, I guess, is that some cyclists would filter to the front of the queue, maybe not blatantly straight to the kiosk, but doubtless past the first however many cars, leaving some poor gig “employee” to arbitrate and deal with the fallout.

      But to be honest, the idea of collecting a hot coffee for consumption at the wheel is bad enough. Consuming it at the handlebar seems even more unnecessary. I’d rather that they had secure, safe and convenient cycle parking.

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  8. NZ Vegan Rider
    June 4, 2020 at 8:19 pm
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    Durianrider; possibly right.

    Durianrider; possibly right.

    There is NO objective evidence that the racer’s colour has anything to do with his place on teams, racing etc.

    He’s jumping on the Lloyd George etc bandwagon ;-(

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    • EddyBerckx
      June 4, 2020 at 8:30 pm
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      Durianrider is a notorious
      Durianrider is a notorious publicity seeking troll…with plenty of nasty accusations against him on the internet (no idea what is or isn’t true)

      Justin Williams has proven himself in the us cycling scene over and over…with little success in getting picked for the important stuff so I’m inclined to side with him. He also comes across as a decent guy unlike durianrider.

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    • Rome73
      June 5, 2020 at 7:17 am
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      Lloyd George bandwagon? I

      Lloyd George bandwagon? I didn’t realise there was a ‘bandwagon’ for a 19th – early 20th Century Liberal UK Primeminister. What’s that all about and how does one join? Does one need to agitate for Irish Home Rule or something? Does one need to wear tails whilst cycling? 

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  9. ktache
    June 5, 2020 at 9:35 am
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    Watching the Jeremy Vine show

    Watching the Jeremy Vine show on Five, they may have been some police movement in the case, but and here is the reason for the post, Jeremy said that “Secretly, I have fitted a tracker to my bike” 

    Doh!

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yodhrin 5 hours ago

@robgodd The poor guy himself suffered a traumatic brain injury and his skull was so badly shattered a significant portion of it had to be removed - do me a favour, have a look around cycling helmet manufacturers and see if any of them claim the foam hats they produce will protect against or even mitigate that level of injury. I'll wait if you like, but I can save us both the time and tell you what you'll find: none of them. Not a single one of them will. Because they don't, and they *can't* based on simple physics. Once the point of failure in a material is reached all(or as near as makes no odds) of the additional force beyond that necessary threshhold transfers through to the object beneath. Since bicycle helmets are rated for forces roughly equivalent to being dropped straight down from a stationary start 1.5m above a hard surface. Now, I'm not an expert in vehicle crash investigation, but I'm *fairly* sure that any impact or series of impacts powerful enough to render a quarder of your skull into gravel, put you in a weeks-long coma, give you massive amnesia, and leave you with ongoing symptoms of traumatic brain injury are a little bit, a teeny-weeny amount, a little smidgeon-widgeon more than what bike helmets are rated for. That's why none of the companies that make them claim they will help in such circumstances: because they know it would be a lie, and that unlike uninformed punters, carbrained journalists, or "medical professionals" who think wearing a helmet would save you from a broken arm(an actual scenario encountered by a mate, who's nurse at the A&E tutted and harrumphed her way through his whole treatment due to his lack of helmet despite his bonce having come through *being hit by a car* - another scenario bike helmets are worthless in - completely unscathed), the lawyers for those companies know their business and understand that if you lie in advertising you will get sued into the ground.

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The Battle of Ypres April 1915. The German infantry division advanced using das Brumptstadt Fahrarden. The slow speed kept them behind the cloud of chlorine gas as it drifted towards the Commonwealth trenches. The offensive cleaved a two mile gap in the Western Front. The use of cycles was copied by the Japanese as they invaded Singapore and Burmah. By then war technology had embraced wider low pressure tyres, carbon frames and hydration gels. The German forces decided not to incorporate cycling as part of Operation Session, as bike theft in London and the South East was rife and would have caused huge casualties. Ironically superior advancement of tyre technology led to a British victory at El Alamein. This technology played a key part in the US Marines victory at Iwo Jima.

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Anonymousattorney 7 hours ago

I do not wish to diminish the personal tragedy, but one never hear calls for pedestrians or even hikers to wear clothing with integrated lightening rods.

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chrisonabike 8 hours ago

RE Andy Burnam / Heidi Alexander - this is the best thing in many ways - set an example (even if currently it leads to lots of online name-calling). And imagine some of the political alternatives! The folks in the apparently second-placed party seem incredibly unlikely to be doing so. And even the current "new Greens" seem less interested in ... y'know, environmental things. OTOH I wish Heidi could be bolder. And I fear that like anyone ambitious enough to get to the top (exception B Johnson - well, I guess there was the Corbyn bicycle...) Burnam will be trimming his transport policy sails to fit the wind (should that be "bunker-fuel-burning engines"?)

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Rendel Harris 8 hours ago

@mattsccm Bull bars aren't banned, they just have to conform to regulations so they are deformable or have plates that allow crumple give on contact, rather than rigid steel bars that can smash into pedestrians and cyclists with no give at all, catch them and drag them under the wheels. If you think that's a problem, do one. Why should who is responsible for a collision remove the responsibility of people driving a tonne of machinery on the road from having safety features to at least mitigate some of the effects of a collision?

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AidanR 8 hours ago

I'd be willing to bet that's lazy use of stock photography rather than deliberate misinformation, but the result is still the same.

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Backladder 8 hours ago

@smallbeer You obviously don't realise how many bulls there are wandering around Chelsea, in and out of the china shops, that he needs to protect his Range Rover from.

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I agree, it's bloody 'elf and safety overreach, can't help some people, I put some meat, sorry, neat decoration on the front of mine and the polis were round poking their noses in like that (mind you, that was a mistake...) (etc)

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