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Critérium du Dauphiné riders miss their turn
Discovery+) (Image Credit: Eurosport/Discovery+)

“Anyone got the route?”: Critérium du Dauphiné riders copy group rides everywhere and miss their turn; Camera shows 91km/h just before another crash hits race; Kopecky wins again at ToB; Castelli’s “aero sleeves” amuse us all + more on the live blog

You’ve almost done it, the weekend’s just around the corner at the top of the last climb… Dan Alexander is here for one more live blog before we can all ride off into the sunset
  • by Dan Alexander
Fri, Jun 07, 2024 08:09
41

SUMMARY

  • "A good 300 metres... just sliding, hoping to stop at some point": Critérium du Dauphiné riders' "pretty scary" day, as shocking roadside footage emerges of high-speed crash
  • Castelli reveals all about its "aero sleeves" base layer, and people are saying things…
  • Scramble for refunds as cycling sportive organiser goes into administration after suffering heavy losses through the pandemic
  • One month on from Simon Pegg's 'me passing cyclists' skit... actor faces second driving ban for speeding in three years
  • British squad hit by bike theft at Tour of Britain as all 14 bikes stolen from mechanic's van – just days after team's rider was hit and "threatened" by 4x4 driver
  • Chris Froome: I was one of the lucky few
  • Lifeplus-Wahoo will continue Tour of Britain despite bike thefts
  • Dauphiné dropouts continue — Juan Ayuso and seven others won't start stage six
  • Britain's "most expensive street" bans cyclists and pedestrians – after complaints about "dangerous" cyclists causing "near misses" and putting residents and diplomats "at risk"
  • Transport for London offers unlimited free Santander Cycle rides every Sunday in June
  • 15-year-old boy arrested after violent attack on cyclist near Box Hill which left victim seriously injured with punctured lung when masked thugs on motorbike kicked him off popular cycle path
  • Lotte Kopecky wins stage two of the Tour of Britain
  • Camera shows 91km/h just before another crash hits race
  • "Read the Highway Code – that is not a safe pass": Police say post advising drivers to give cyclists "an arm's length" of space while overtaking was published "in error"
  • Primož Roglič wins Critérium du Dauphiné with all too familiar summit finish sprint
  • Wheely petty
  • Red Bull gives you wings... (but more importantly a pro team contract)...
  • "Anyone got the route?": Critérium du Dauphiné riders copy amateur cyclists everywhere and miss their turn
Critérium du Dauphiné riders miss their turn
Discovery+) (Image Credit: Eurosport/Discovery+)
7 June 2024, 08:09

"A good 300 metres... just sliding, hoping to stop at some point": Critérium du Dauphiné riders' "pretty scary" day, as shocking roadside footage emerges of high-speed crash

The doctors and physios of the Critérium du Dauphiné were working overtime last night, the peloton trying to get its head around the sheer scale of how many riders were involved in the high-speed crash that brought an end to racing on stage five yesterday afternoon. The person behind the @keyshawn__bava account on Twitter/X shared roadside footage of the incident that shows the quite incredible high-speeds that riders were sliding down the wet road at.

Le pauvre chien qui a eu la peur de sa vie 😵🐶 #Dauphiné pic.twitter.com/ehQDhVNljf

— 𝕌𝕣𝕓𝕒𝕚𝕟 𝔾𝕣𝕒𝕟𝕕𝕚𝕖𝕣 (@keyshawn__bava) June 6, 2024

 British pro Fred Wright was one of those involved, explaining to ITV and the other TV cameras: “Everyone had that feeling, ‘it’s a little bit slippy maybe’. We were racing to the top of the climb to get into that descent in a good position. It was a straight road but maybe just a touch on the brakes and bikes underneath people at the front… when that happens there’s not really much you can do.

“It’s a memory I don’t think I’m going to forget for a long time, I was just sliding downhill for what felt like a long time, I’ve never slid on my back… a good 300 metres, didn’t know where my bike was, just sliding, hoping to stop at some point. Pretty scary stuff.”

Team Visma-Lease a Bike confirmed that Dylan van Baarle and Steven Kruijswijk will miss the Tour de France, the former suffering the suspected fractured collarbone many predicted when he was seen sat on the roadside with his arm in a sling. Kruijswijk has “a small fracture in his hip”.

The UAE Team Emirates medical update confirmed that SIX of the team’s seven riders were affected, all “provisionally cleared to race” today. Dr Adrian Rotunno earned his money yesterday…

Unreal stat: 6 out of 7 (!) UAE Team Emirates riders crashed today ar the #Dauphine. Fortunately, all are cleared to race tomorrow. pic.twitter.com/lyKXGwiiFX

— Luc Grefte (@LucGrefte) June 6, 2024

Kruijswijk, Van Baarle, Ådne Holter, Rémy Rochas, Axel Mariault, Laurens Huys, Milan Menten and Luke Durbridge were the DNFs from yesterday, while Intermarché–Wanty’s Kobe Goosens is listed as a rider who will not start stage six. Let’s see how everyone else feels this morning… stiff, sore and bruised, I’m guessing… and having ‘enjoyed’ the ‘joys’ of trying to sleep with road rash. Grim.

7 June 2024, 08:09

Castelli reveals all about its "aero sleeves" base layer, and people are saying things…

For 99 of your hard-earned pound sterling you too can be the owner of this, the Castelli Bolero Short Sleeve base layer and add “aero sleeves for aerodynamic gains” to your cycling wardrobe…

Cycling is losing its grip on reality. pic.twitter.com/YcLDI0QPHf

— Guy Andrews (@thecoureur) June 7, 2024

In fairness, it’s quite obviously a product for people who ride professionally and don’t have to pay for their kit or those with too much money to care but still, you can’t be putting pictures of that on your website and not expect the internet to do what it does best — take the piss.

Weighing just 54g (because it’s missing more than half the base layer), Castelli says these are “sleeves with aero trip ribbing for maximal aerodynamic gain”… “If you have a keen eye, you’ll have noticed the lines running down the arms of our pro riders when they race TTs. These aero ribs are our Bolero sleeves — here in a short-sleeve version. The ribs create aerodynamic trip strips, making our Aero Jerseys and San Remo Speedsuits even faster.”

100 Climbs author Simon Warren joked he’s waiting for the gravel version, while Gareth Cartman was begging us to tell him it’s actually the result of asking AI to design an aero cycling product release. Admittedly, others did take things a touch more seriously…

It’s real. The UCI banned certain textures in fabric which provide aero gains, e.g. golf ball dimpling, so the “undershirt” that the rider is showing effectively dimples the jersey.

No, I don’t have one, nor am I planning on getting one.

— Rob Green (@rg807) June 7, 2024

Is it faster?

That will be what customers are asking.

Not a new question for bike racing kit!

— Martin Williamson (@quickerbybike) June 7, 2024

7 June 2024, 08:09

Scramble for refunds as cycling sportive organiser goes into administration after suffering heavy losses through the pandemic

Sportive ride (image credit: Sportive HQ)
Sportive ride (image credit: Sportive HQ) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Sportive ride (image credit: Sportive HQ)
Sportive ride (image credit: Sportive HQ) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

> Scramble for refunds as cycling sportive organiser goes into administration after suffering heavy losses through the pandemic

7 June 2024, 08:09

One month on from Simon Pegg's 'me passing cyclists' skit... actor faces second driving ban for speeding in three years

Almost one month to the day since this live blog…

Simon Pegg 'me passing cyclists' skit (Simon Pegg, Instagram)
Simon Pegg 'me passing cyclists' skit (Simon Pegg, Instagram) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Simon Pegg 'me passing cyclists' skit (Simon Pegg, Instagram)
Simon Pegg 'me passing cyclists' skit (Simon Pegg, Instagram) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

> Is he (Shaun of the) Dead wrong about cyclists? Simon Pegg slammed for ‘me passing cyclists’ skit, blasting people on bikes “riding two abreast” and “in the middle of the road”

The Evening Standard now reports Pegg faces his second driving ban in three years after being caught speeding at 36mph in a 20mph zone in Hackney in October. The Hot Fuzz, Shaun of the Dead and Mission Impossible actor served a six-month ban in 2021 after amassing 13 penalty points for four speeding offences, but he has now pleaded guilty again to an offence in the autumn, meaning he faces another potential ban.

At the time of his last ban, Pegg’s lawyer told Wimbledon Magistrates’ Court that he “deeply regrets” the offences and a ban would cause him “difficulties”. However, court documents show Pegg was caught by a speed camera in Hackney Wick driving at 36mph in a 20 zone and he has pleaded guilty, the sentencing hearing expected to be held on June 24.

7 June 2024, 08:09

British squad hit by bike theft at Tour of Britain as all 14 bikes stolen from mechanic's van – just days after team's rider was hit and "threatened" by 4x4 driver

Ribble Endurance SLR bikes stolen from Lifeplus-Wahoo at Tour of Britain Women (Lifeplus-Wahoo)
Ribble Endurance SLR bikes stolen from Lifeplus-Wahoo at Tour of Britain Women (Lifeplus-Wahoo) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Ribble Endurance SLR bikes stolen from Lifeplus-Wahoo at Tour of Britain Women (Lifeplus-Wahoo)
Ribble Endurance SLR bikes stolen from Lifeplus-Wahoo at Tour of Britain Women (Lifeplus-Wahoo) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

> British squad hit by bike theft at Tour of Britain as all 14 bikes stolen from mechanic’s van – just days after team’s rider was hit and “threatened” by 4×4 driver

7 June 2024, 08:09

Chris Froome: I was one of the lucky few

Speaking to ITV’s Daniel Friebe, Chris Froome said he was “one of the lucky few” who avoided yesterday’s crash. 

“I just went off into the bushes when I saw what was happening on the road,” he explained. “Just carnage. The roads were super slippery coming down that descent and all it took was one or two guys to touch their brakes… one crash turned into 60, 70, 80 guys all on the floor at high speeds. Pretty gnarly. One of the more nasty crashes I’ve seen.”

7 June 2024, 08:09

Lifeplus-Wahoo will continue Tour of Britain despite bike thefts

Good news from Wrexham, Lifeplus-Wahoo will start the second stage of the Tour of Britain. 

“All of our thanks and appreciation goes out to the many teams that offered and gave their spare team bikes and their mechanics’ time to get our girls on the road. We wouldn’t be starting without them!”

Lifeplus-Wahoo at the start of Tour of Britain stage two (Lifeplus-Wahoo/X)
X) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Lifeplus-Wahoo at the start of Tour of Britain stage two (Lifeplus-Wahoo/X)
X) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

There could be no more popular stage winners today… 

7 June 2024, 08:09

Dauphiné dropouts continue — Juan Ayuso and seven others won't start stage six

More than a few riders sporting bandages at the start today… 

Bruised 🤕 but not broken 💪🏼

Los siete Movistar Team toman la salida en la primera de las tres grandes jornadas alpinas ⛰️ del 🇫🇷 #Dauphiné, que parte ya desde Hauterives.

🏁 ~17.10 (Le Collet d’Allevard) // 📺 15.20 (@Eurosport_ES @ciclismortve @eitbkirolak)

🎥 Barrage Media pic.twitter.com/jkRnAAlEhk

— Movistar Team (@Movistar_Team) June 7, 2024

Juan Ayuso and seven others, including 20-year-old British rider Lukas Nerurkar (who finished third on stage three and seventh on stage two), are out of the Dauphiné and won’t start today’s stage. However, far from crash injuries, the Brit has tested positive for Covid (how very 2021 of him) and teammate Harry Sweeney has an illness too. It’s all going on over in France.

Ayuso, who was eighth on GC and one of six UAE Team Emirates riders to crash yesterday, is the biggest-name dropout ahead of today’s HC summit finish at Le Collet d’Allevard. There’ll be plenty of bruised bodies out there today.

7 June 2024, 08:09

Britain's "most expensive street" bans cyclists and pedestrians – after complaints about "dangerous" cyclists causing "near misses" and putting residents and diplomats "at risk"

Kensington Palace Gardens (licensed CC BY SA 2.0 by LondonEnte on Flickr).jpg
Kensington Palace Gardens (licensed CC BY SA 2.0 by LondonEnte on Flickr) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Kensington Palace Gardens (licensed CC BY SA 2.0 by LondonEnte on Flickr).jpg
Kensington Palace Gardens (licensed CC BY SA 2.0 by LondonEnte on Flickr) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

> Britain’s “most expensive street” bans cyclists and pedestrians – after complaints about “dangerous” cyclists causing “near misses” and putting residents and diplomats “at risk”

7 June 2024, 08:09

Transport for London offers unlimited free Santander Cycle rides every Sunday in June

Cyclist in London santander cycles hire bike - copyright Simon MacMichael
Cyclist in London santander cycles hire bike - copyright Simon MacMichael (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Cyclist in London santander cycles hire bike - copyright Simon MacMichael
Cyclist in London santander cycles hire bike – copyright Simon MacMichael (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Transport for London and Santander Cycles are offering unlimited free 30-minute rides on Sundays in June as part of the launch of TfL Cycle Sundays, a new programme of leisurely routes deisgned to encourage more Londoners to enjoy the city by bike.

Find out more on the TfL website.

7 June 2024, 08:09

15-year-old boy arrested after violent attack on cyclist near Box Hill which left victim seriously injured with punctured lung when masked thugs on motorbike kicked him off popular cycle path

A24 towards Leatherhead with shared-use path running parallel (Google Maps)
A24 towards Leatherhead with shared-use path running parallel (Google Maps) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
A24 towards Leatherhead with shared-use path running parallel (Google Maps)
A24 towards Leatherhead with shared-use path running parallel (Google Maps) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

> 15-year-old boy arrested after violent attack on cyclist near Box Hill which left victim seriously injured with punctured lung when masked thugs on motorbike kicked him off popular cycle path

7 June 2024, 08:09

Lotte Kopecky wins stage two of the Tour of Britain

There’s no doubt about who won today, the world champion doubling up at the Tour of Britain, taking a second sprint victory in as many days, this time gracing Wrexham with her power. A cracking ride by Anna Henderson to stick with the rampaging Belgian over Horseshoe Pass, but it’s a tough ask going head to head with Kopecky at the finish.

BACK TO BACK WINS FOR THE WORLD CHAMPION 🏆

Lotte Kopecky outsprints Anna Henderson to win Stage 2 of the Women’s Tour of Britain 🇬🇧#cycling #womenscycling #roadcycling pic.twitter.com/9z8c7nkqYU

— Eurosport (@eurosport) June 7, 2024

SD Worx teammate Lorena Wiebes was on hand to win the sprint for third and suddenly the team is halfway to winning every stage of the race. Can anyone stop them as the race heads to Warrington and Manchester this weekend?

Kopecky’s GC lead will be 17 seconds heading into tomorrow, Letizia Paternoster, Pfeiffer Georgi and Lizzie Deignan a few of those a bit further back.

Again, credit to British Cycling for two entertaining stages and the sort of scenery that makes UK races so great to watch.

💚 Horseshoe Pass, that was special!#TourOfBritain | @UCI_WWT pic.twitter.com/bfkN8obBB3

— Lloyds Bank Tour of Britain (@TourofBritain) June 7, 2024

7 June 2024, 08:09

Camera shows 91km/h just before another crash hits race

If the cameraman pulls the classic ‘get a shot of the speedometer on a fast descent’, the last thing I want to see when the camera returns to the race is two riders flying towards the edge of a bend. Thankfully, Mason Hollyman and Thibault Guernalec managed to slow themselves down sufficiently to avoid disaster, both up on their feet and back on the bike quickly.

Was that a front flip?!?

Mason Hollyman and Thibault Guernalec crash whilst descending in the Criterium du Dauphine. Both riders are up and back on the bike.#cycling #roadcycling #crash pic.twitter.com/xgDA0JKFhU

— Eurosport (@eurosport) June 7, 2024

7 June 2024, 08:09

"Read the Highway Code – that is not a safe pass": Police say post advising drivers to give cyclists "an arm's length" of space while overtaking was published "in error"

Meanwhile in Britain… 

Thames Valley Police criticised for 'safe' overtake post (Thames Valley Police Roads Policing)
Thames Valley Police criticised for 'safe' overtake post (Thames Valley Police Roads Policing) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Thames Valley Police criticised for 'safe' overtake post (Thames Valley Police Roads Policing)
Thames Valley Police criticised for 'safe' overtake post (Thames Valley Police Roads Policing) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

> “Read the Highway Code – that is not a safe pass”: Police say post advising drivers to give cyclists “an arm’s length” of space while overtaking was published “in error”

7 June 2024, 08:09

Primož Roglič wins Critérium du Dauphiné with all too familiar summit finish sprint

If the Tour gives us one thing (other than Cav up fit and firing for win number 35, of course), I’ll go for Primož Roglič getting a crash-free run at the yellow jersey. A certain other Slovenian at UAE Team Emirates will make it tough to win outright, but it would be great to see a fully fit Roglič having another shot.

🏆 Victoire de @rogla en haut du Collet d’Allevard

🏆 @rogla wins at the top of Collet d’Allevard #Dauphiné pic.twitter.com/lCG3gV8cQv

— Critérium du Dauphiné (@dauphine) June 7, 2024

Aleksandr Vlasov deserves plenty of plaudits for his work to set the Dauphiné stage six victory up, towing his teammate and Giulio Ciccone to the closing metres before the Bora-Hansgrohe leader set off on one of his familiar stage-crushing uphill sprints. Behind, Remco Evenepoel struggled a day on from yesterday’s crash, Roglič taking enough time to sit atop the GC, 19 seconds clear of the Belgian. Gutsy rides from Matteo Jorgenson and Derek Gee keep them in the hunt for a podium place, we’ll see how their GC credentials fare during the mountainous weekend to come.

7 June 2024, 08:09

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7 June 2024, 08:09

Red Bull gives you wings... (but more importantly a pro team contract)...

Red Bull Junior Brothers Programme 2024
Red Bull Junior Brothers Programme 2024 (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Red Bull Junior Brothers Programme 2024
Red Bull Junior Brothers Programme 2024 (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

A global talent scouting initiative aimed at discovering the next generation of professional road cyclists, the Red Bull Junior Brothers Programme 2024, has completed its econd annual search for two promising prospects to keep an eye on. 

After “an intense week of testing at the Red Bull Athlete Performance Centre (APC)” in Thalgau, Austria, Georgs Tjumins and Karl Herzog have earned a contract with Bora-Hansgrohe’s U19 team, Team GRENKE – Auto Eder, Karl the brother of current Bora-Hansgrohe pro rider Emil Herzog.

> A-Levels, angry sportive riders, and forgetting your gloves at Paris-Roubaix: A beginner’s guide to racing in Europe and the fight to become a pro cyclist

Who knows, perhaps it won’t be long before it’s Primož Roglič towing them to victory?

7 June 2024, 08:09

"Anyone got the route?": Critérium du Dauphiné riders copy amateur cyclists everywhere and miss their turn

I’ve got to admit, I do love it when the pros are brought back down to the level of the rest of us and made to see that even the most amateurish mistakes can befall any cyclist (regardless of if you can push 7w/kg or not).

Cycling is not a serious sport, part 394.

The crowd pointing the way 🙃🙈 #Dauphiné @OutOfCycling pic.twitter.com/DlC42NIG2y

— Katy M, Dauphiné edition 🐬 (@writebikerepeat) June 7, 2024

Today’s edition: route-following gone wrong. A familiar one for any of you who’ve been on a group ride, or do sportives where your progress relies on following roadside signs — a missed turn, off course, that moment of realisation, the inevitable… “Anyone got the route?”

In such situations everyone rushes to their roles. You’ll get at least one grumpy rider cursing the person meant to be in charge of directions, you’ll get the chirpy rider who believes they “know exactly where we are” and can wing a diversion on the fly (despite having not had the navigational nous to notice things going wrong in the first place), you’ll get someone sheepishly blaming their headunit for their own mistake, and of course you’ll get complaints all the way back to the point at which you’re back on track, extra punishing metres which the cycling gods always seem to make uphill just so you suffer more.

In fairness to the pros at the Dauphiné, when you’re racing a WorldTour pre-Tour de France warm-up event, you don’t expect it to be like a small-time Sunday sportive. Far more blame has to go for the lack of marshalling or whoever in the lead car missed their turn. Top marks for the roadside supporters doing their best to point out the mista… ah, they’re gone…

Oh boy, more drama in Dauphine. The breakaway took the wrong road because they followed the organization car not the arrows. There was no marshall to send them the right way so I can’t blame them.#Dauphine pic.twitter.com/RUyBENhRZn

— Mihai Simion (@faustocoppi60) June 7, 2024

Not so for the riders and teams, but quite amusing for us enjoying from the sofa. 

7 June 2024, 08:09

Like Colnago’s new Tour de France bike? It’ll cost you £20,000

Like Colnago’s new Tour de France bike? It’ll cost you £20,000

Limited edition version of Colnago’s C68 road bike marks the Tour’s Florence grand départ at the end of this month; the number 1 model will be auctioned by Sotheby’s

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  1. NotNigel
    June 7, 2024 at 8:14 am
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    not good for the women’s tour

    not good for the women’s tour of Britain.
     

    https://x.com/LifeplusWahoo/status/1798975684502605859

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  2. Patrick9-32
    June 7, 2024 at 8:33 am
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    I feel like the UCI should be

    I feel like the UCI should be regulating wet weather tyres with some grip in conditions like this, if they all had to use them it would mean nobody had an advantage and maybe they would be able to stop safely. Most of those who went down did so before they got to the crashed riders ahead. It was as if they were trying to brake on ice and everyone who put the brakes on lost the front wheel instantly. 

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    • Rendel Harris
      June 7, 2024 at 8:52 am
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      Patrick9-32 wrote:

      I feel like the UCI should be regulating wet weather tyres with some grip in conditions like this, if they all had to use them it would mean nobody had an advantage and maybe they would be able to stop safely. Most of those who went down did so before they got to the crashed riders ahead. It was as if they were trying to brake on ice and everyone who put the brakes on lost the front wheel instantly. 

      — Patrick9-32

      What would these wet weather tyres be? It seems to be generally agreed that tread on road bike tyres is more or less useless, indeed slick tires actually have better grip, so I can’t see what they would put on that would make them safer. I suppose they could mandate a maximum tyre pressure but the logistics of policing that would be massive.  The real problem is not the tyres but the tarmac, the crash occurred on a stretch of shiny new tarmac which had probably been laid down for the race but this can get incredibly greasy when it rains, either the organisers need to think about planning further in advance so that any repairs made for the race have a chance to bed in or they need to be aware of where the new tarmac is and be prepared to neutralise the race over those stretches in unfavourable conditions.

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      • OnYerBike
        June 7, 2024 at 9:57 am
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        Tread might be useless for

        Tread might be useless for bicycle tyres, but various brands claim to utilise different compounds that may provide better grip in the wet e.g. the “Control” version of the Vittoria Corsa; the “AS” version of the GP5000. Think Goodyear had a prototype “Vector LTD Wet Weather Race” tyre out at Tour of Flanders.

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    • mark1a
      June 7, 2024 at 8:55 am
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      Patrick9-32 wrote:

      I feel like the UCI should be regulating wet weather tyres with some grip in conditions like this, if they all had to use them it would mean nobody had an advantage and maybe they would be able to stop safely. Most of those who went down did so before they got to the crashed riders ahead. It was as if they were trying to brake on ice and everyone who put the brakes on lost the front wheel instantly. 

      — Patrick9-32

      Do you have any examples of wet weather tyres for suitable for road bikes?

      [edit] – RH beat me to it.

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    • quiff
      June 7, 2024 at 9:11 am
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      TBH I’m not sure how much

      TBH I’m not sure how much effect wet weather tyres would have – judging by how far they were sliding off their bikes that (newly laid?) surface must have been incredibly slippery. [Edit – Rendel beat me to it too!]

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    • fwhite181
      June 7, 2024 at 9:23 am
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      With the pressures involved

      With the pressures involved in bike tyres (~75+ PSI) compared to the ~25PSI of car tyres, the physics of wet tyres doesn’t make sense for cycling. Tread on car tyres is there to shed water that builds up between the road and the tyre, allowing the rubber to stay in contact with the tarmac (preventing aquaplaning). For a car running 25PSI, the speed of aquaplaning is ~40MPH. For a cyclist at 80PSI, it’s about 95mph. Therefore, wet-weather/tread-patterned tyres don’t do anything for road cyclists except reduce the amount of grip they have. (The ever-useful Sheldon Brown did the maths here: https://www.sheldonbrown.com/tires.html#hydroplaning)

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      • wycombewheeler
        June 7, 2024 at 9:26 am
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        Interesting the speed of

        Interesting the speed of aquaplanning is a function of pressure, rather than tyre width? In one sense the two are related, narrower tyres need higher pressure.

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      • Paul J
        June 7, 2024 at 2:41 pm
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        fwhite181 wrote:

        With the pressures involved in bike tyres (~75+ PSI) compared to the ~25PSI of car tyres, the physics of wet tyres doesn’t make sense for cycling. Tread on car tyres is there to shed water that builds up between the road and the tyre, allowing the rubber to stay in contact with the tarmac (preventing aquaplaning). For a car running 25PSI, the speed of aquaplaning is ~40MPH. For a cyclist at 80PSI, it’s about 95mph. Therefore, wet-weather/tread-patterned tyres don’t do anything for road cyclists except reduce the amount of grip they have. (The ever-useful Sheldon Brown did the maths here: https://www.sheldonbrown.com/tires.html#hydroplaning)

        — fwhite181

        I’m not sure I can agree with Sheldon Brown here.

        The argument by Jobst Brandt that he links to refers to motorcycle tyres as proving lack of hydroplaning, but motorcycles – particularly in racing – /do/ switch to grooved wet tyres when it’s raining. The tyres used in high-level racing have grooves in the direction of travel in the middle, and angled on the shoulder (the tyre meets the road at an angle in cornering).

        Now, a major difference in wet tyres v slicks is the compound. Wets having much softer rubber, which can still generate some heat even with the cooling effect of rain. The grooves may also help to generate that heat, besides displacing water directly, as they allow the rubber to move more.

        I’m not convinced by Sheldon’s reference to aircraft tyre pressure charts. He gives no further references. The chart relating risk of hydro-planning purely to pressure and speed is surely in the context of /ridged/ aircraft tyres. The risk may well be much worse for smooth tyres. On the information Sheldon gives, you can not conclude the risk is the same for slick tyres.

        Having ridden motorbikes and bikes for a long time, different tyres definitely have different behaviours and levels of grip in the wet. And the hardness of the rubber is a major factor. Long lasting, cheap, hard-rubber tyres tend to slip readily in the wet. Soft, fast wearing tyres have more grip, particularly in the wet.

        I’m not 100% sure of the effect of patterning. I do prefer Vittoria Corsas, with their very fine grooves, over slick contis, in damp conditions. Havn’t really objectively tested – and I can’t rule out differences in tyre compound in that preference.

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    • Steve K
      June 7, 2024 at 9:32 am
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      Has anyone mentioned that

      Has anyone mentioned that tyre treads are pointless on road bikes yet?

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      • Patrick9-32
        June 7, 2024 at 10:32 am
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        Steve K wrote:

        Has anyone mentioned that tyre treads are pointless on road bikes yet?

        — Steve K

        No, nobody has! Would you mind giving me a patronising explanation of basic physics please while you are at it?

        Not sure why these people are all blinkered into thinking wet weather tyres means the same width and pressure but with some knobbles. 

        I am sure is definitely possible for a bicycle tyre to grip on that road, at least enough for the best riders in the world to slow down slightly without immediately crashing, maybe not in the package and form factor of a “road bike tyre” though, and if I am wrong then they shouldn’t be racing there in those conditions.

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        • quiff
          June 7, 2024 at 11:05 am
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          Patrick9-32 wrote:

          I am sure is definitely possible for a bicycle tyre to grip on that road, at least enough for the best riders in the world to slow down slightly without immediately crashing

          — Patrick9-32

          Would be interesting to know exactly how the first person went down – but after the first person hits the deck, the problem is that nobody is trying to slow down *slightly* any more, hence the domino effect  

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          • Patrick9-32
            June 7, 2024 at 11:15 am
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            quiff wrote:

            Would be interesting to know exactly how the first person went down – but after the first person hits the deck, the problem is that nobody is trying to slow down *slightly* any more, hence the domino effect  

            — quiff

            These are top pro cyclists, not newbies on hire bikes at centre parks, they have enough skill and muscle memory not to just grab a handful of front brake when something happens ahead of them without any finesse or control. (One or two of them, maybe, but half the peleton?)

          • Paul J
            June 7, 2024 at 11:56 am
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            Not sure about the first to
            Not sure about the first to go down – that /might/ have been a touch of wheels, they were certainly very close to another rider – but from the 3 available videos (moto behind, helo overhead, spectator vid) the vast majority of the rest who went down on the road (rather than off the side) went down cause they braked, locked and lost the front.

          • Patrick9-32
            June 7, 2024 at 12:03 pm
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            Paul J wrote:

            Not sure about the first to go down – that /might/ have been a touch of wheels, they were certainly very close to another rider – but from the 3 available videos (moto behind, helo overhead, spectator vid) the vast majority of the rest who went down on the road (rather than off the side) went down cause they braked, locked and lost the front.

            — Paul J

            That’s my point here, it was not possible on the equipment they were using for them to safely race on that road as, as soon as there was an incident, they all crashed semi-independently. If it were reasonably possible for a human using that equipment to stop safely, those riders are the ones most likely to be able to do so, the fact that they couldn’t means that either they shouldn’t have been racing at all or they should have been racing using equipment suitable for the conditions. 

    • mikewood
      June 7, 2024 at 12:07 pm
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      Shiny tar where the surface

      Shiny tar where the surface has been through too many heat cycles and the gravel has disappeared. In those conditions you go for the dull bits, not the shiny bits but not easy in a group!

      You’d even include it in the pacenotes on tarmac rallies for the same reason in the wet

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    • Gimpl
      June 7, 2024 at 3:55 pm
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      Patrick9-32 wrote:

      I feel like the UCI should be regulating wet weather tyres with some grip in conditions like this, if they all had to use them it would mean nobody had an advantage and maybe they would be able to stop safely. Most of those who went down did so before they got to the crashed riders ahead. It was as if they were trying to brake on ice and everyone who put the brakes on lost the front wheel instantly. 

      — Patrick9-32

      Please ignore the usual twattery you have experienced on here so far. 

      As another biker I completely understand what you mean. It’s not about tread but could be the compound.

      Unfortunately many people on here are more interested in feeling important than posting anything useful.

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  3. Tom_77
    June 7, 2024 at 9:01 am
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    Shitty cycle parking outside

    Shitty cycle parking outside my local Londis.

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    • Tom_77
      June 7, 2024 at 9:03 am
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      Had a look on Google Maps,

      Had a look on Google Maps, the cycle hoops were there first, and the dog shit bin was placed in between them at a later date. Who thought that was a good idea?

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  4. quiff
    June 7, 2024 at 9:15 am
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    I got served an ad for those

    I got served an ad for those Castelli Bolero sleeves a few days ago. My wife already thinks all the variations of cycling kit (short sleeves, long sleeves, no sleeves, just sleeves, shorts, longs, 3/4s, leg warmers, knee warmers, toe warmers) are hilarious, but even I wasn’t going to defend this one. 

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    • Clem Fandango
      June 7, 2024 at 9:24 am
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      Well, ypu could get some more

      Well, you could get some more innovative tan lines at least…… 

       

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      • quiff
        June 7, 2024 at 9:29 am
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        [Tries and fails to find

        [Tries and fails to find vaguely recalled picture of a London commuter wearing arm warmers without a jersey.] 

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        • Rendel Harris
          June 7, 2024 at 10:02 am
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          Orlando Bloom notably gave it

          Orlando Bloom notably gave it a go…

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          • quiff
            June 7, 2024 at 10:25 am
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            A good effort, but the one I

            A good effort, but the one I’m thinking of was quite something, topped off with a Respro mask if memory serves. Kind of like Bane on a bike.  

          • Paul J
            June 7, 2024 at 11:48 am
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            Rendel Harris wrote:

            Orlando Bloom notably gave it a go…

            — Rendel Harris

            Why? Why would someone do this? It’s so hot you don’t want a jersey on, yet.. cold enough to need arm warmers? WTF?!!!

          • Neil MG
            June 7, 2024 at 12:21 pm
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            The Bolero short sleeve will

            The Bolero short sleeve will fill those gaps nicely!

  5. Clem Fandango
    June 7, 2024 at 9:17 am
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    Drive safe.

    Drive safe.

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  6. Steve K
    June 7, 2024 at 9:37 am
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    The Venn diagram of “famous

    The Venn diagram of “famous people who complain about cyclists” and “famous people who drive illegally” is pretty much just a single circle, isn’t it?

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    • BalladOfStruth
      June 7, 2024 at 9:44 am
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      Steve K wrote:

      The Venn diagram of “famous people who complain about cyclists” and “famous people who drive illegally” is pretty much just a single circle, isn’t it?

      — Steve K

      FTFY

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      • Steve K
        June 7, 2024 at 9:58 am
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        True – but it’s the famous

        True – but it’s the famous ones who get the media attention.

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    • belugabob
      June 7, 2024 at 7:14 pm
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      he “deeply regrets” the

      he “deeply regrets” the offences and because a ban would cause him “difficulties”

       

      FTFY, Simon Pegg

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  7. mctrials23
    June 7, 2024 at 9:37 am
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    I feel that anyone who has

    I feel that anyone who has been banned from driving for points accumulation should A) find any subsequent bans lengthened exponentially as they clearly haven’t learned anything from the first ban. B) Have any sentences/punishments that come as a result of dangerous driving in future massively increased as well. 

    For example if you have been banned for speeding and you hit and injure/kill someone in future then your sentence should be increased considerably. 

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    • brooksby
      June 7, 2024 at 10:15 am
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      When the directors of a

      When the directors of a limited company fail to file their accounts with Companies House within the set period allowed they are fined when they do finally file them (with the fine increasing, the longer past the due period the accounts were when they were finally filed).

      If the accounts are late for the next period, the fines are doubled.

      Seems reasonable to do something like that for driving bans, driving FPNs, etc. 

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  8. brooksby
    June 7, 2024 at 10:49 am
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    This isn’t to do with cycling

    This isn’t to do with cycling, but certainly falls under ‘road safety’.

    Police officer ordered witness not to call 999 when he caused head-on crash

    After a witness said ‘we should call the police’, [the officer] said ‘no don’t call 999, I just veered off and hit the car’, a court heard.

    [The officer] told [the other party] he was a police officer and was ‘very insistent’ he could deal with the matter himself.

    Police officer ordered witness not to call 999 when he caused head-on crash

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    • quiff
      June 7, 2024 at 11:13 am
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      Bit conflicted on this one.

      Bit conflicted on this one. It may well be the case that the police don’t need to be called to every RTC, but I might be reluctant to take that statement at face value from a police officer *who had just crashed into me*.     

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    • wtjs
      June 7, 2024 at 11:19 am
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      It pains me to say it, but

      It pains me to say it, but The Law seems to have got the penalty right, for once.

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  9. dreamlx10
    June 7, 2024 at 3:11 pm
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    Simon Pegg is a f@nny

    Simon Pegg is a f@nny

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  10. Hirsute
    June 7, 2024 at 4:16 pm
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    Warning – This bike is

    Warning – This bike is exceptionally heavy and needs a winch to recover.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GPdTnWzWoAAFi4s?format=jpg&name=small

    “
    Trike off to be fixed [?] Very grateful to @ETAservicesltd for their really inclusive cycle breakdown cover. I’m not able to fix punctures or push my trike if there’s issues, so having their cover is really reassuring and helps me keep cycling. “
     

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  11. mdavidford
    June 7, 2024 at 5:27 pm
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    What’s petty about those

    What’s petty about those wheel pictures?

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  12. ktache
    June 7, 2024 at 8:37 pm
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    This was mentioned on
    This was mentioned on tonights Have I Got News for You, did it get a story here?

    How a Man United fan cycled 8,600 miles through 19 countries to meet Wayne Rooney


    He looks like a very happy cyclist.

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  13. Hirsute
    June 7, 2024 at 9:26 pm
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    Rosie Holt (Tory MP) has
    Rosie Holt (Tory MP) has tweeted
    “It was today I learned that immigrants are CLOGGING UP THE ROADS #bbcdebate”

    Finally, it’s not cyclists!

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“This proves that women can compete alongside men”: Sarah Ruggins smashes outright 6,000km record for riding across Europe by three days… and 7-day distance record en route
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14,000 on cycle storage waiting list as bike theft rockets and cyclists complain: “If you can’t get a space, you’re not going to be inspired to buy a bike”
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SKS Speedrocker XL Mudguard Set
SKS Speedrocker XL Mudguard Set
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Silca Ultimate Tubeless Valves 70mm
Silca Ultimate Tubeless Valves 70mm
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Merida Lithos 8000 e-MTB
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“Tracker FS is our answer to one of the biggest issues in the industry right now”: new Nukeproof Tracker FS costs just £1,999
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The new Orbea Wild e-MTB dumps Bosch motor and boards the Avinox hype train
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If I had £1,500 to start mountain biking with, this is how I would spend it
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Roval Terra CLX III wheelset
Roval Terra CLX III wheelset
Exceptional wheelset with superb comfort and class-leading low weight that offers a refreshing alternative to the aero arms race
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Shimano brings “flagship innovation” and “thick” brake rotors to its XT mechanical drivetrain
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Seven magnificent off-road bikepacking adventures that could change your life
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Bosch unveils its first hub motor, semi-pro wins Voi Bike Challenge at Nocturne crit race, Florida sets close pass law + more
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Merida Lithos 8000 e-MTB
Merida Lithos 8000 e-MTB
Well shaped, supple, supportive, capable and predictable - everything a solid enduro e-MTB should be
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The new Orbea Wild e-MTB dumps Bosch motor and boards the Avinox hype train
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ADO Air 20 Ultra
ADO Air 20 Ultra
Good-quality e-folder for not much. The automatic three-speed motor isn't without its quirks, though
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I was hit by an illegal e-biker who ran a red light. Tougher regulation can’t come soon enough
I was hit by an illegal e-biker who ran a red light. Tougher regulation can’t come soon enough
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Free update for Yamaha e-bikes, Lime increases fleet for US footie fans, Voi weighs in on London parking debates + more
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Barcelona to ban private bike share schemes from 2027, as mayor slams e-bike parking “mess”
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Megamo launches dedicated e-road bike powered by super-powerful Avinox motor
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chrisonabike 11 hours ago

"you can’t pass a law saying it’s illegal not to have a speedometer if you’re going to go above the speed limit." I don't think this would be a good idea, nor even speed limits (and presumably mandatory speedometers everywhere) ... ... but is there any theoretical legal impediment to that? Or even simply enacting a law that cyclists are not permitted to ride faster on roads than the motor vehicle speed limit (or some other limit) and leaving it up to cyclists how they go about complying with that? (Not a lawyer not a legal theorist though...)

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Sriracha 11 hours ago

What has KE to do with it? If you are hit by a large object you don't absorb all its KE. Being hit by a car is no better than being hit by a bus at the same speed. What matters is how much acceleration you experience.

in: Son of pensioner killed by cyclist calls for cycling speed limits to deter “dangerous” riders and “protect pedestrians”
Rendel Harris 11 hours ago

@Robert Hardy 20mph isn't as fast as you seem to think, this 57-year-old-not-that-fit rider can easily achieve it on the flat in still conditions and most averagely fit people can on a decent bike. The argument that it wouldn't be a problem to impose speed limits on cyclists because those who can achieve 20mph already have speedometers is an entirely specious one, firstly as I've said a huge number of people can achieve 20mph, not just Garmin-obsessed racers, and secondly you would have to make speedometers compulsory for everyone on a bike, you can't pass a law saying it's illegal not to have a speedometer if you're going to go above the speed limit. How many cycling incidents are caused by supposedly excessive speed? It wasn't a factor in this case, the cyclist would still have hit her if he'd been doing 15mph or even 10mph. Charlie Alliston was under the car speed limit. It's a non-issue and only of interest to those seeking yet another stick with which to beat cyclists.

in: Son of pensioner killed by cyclist calls for cycling speed limits to deter “dangerous” riders and “protect pedestrians”
chrisonabike 12 hours ago

(Usual reference to speed being the major issue as kinetic energy goes up with the square of velocity / much greater braking distances required etc)

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chrisonabike 12 hours ago

@mdavidford steady on - an 80kg cyclist on a 20kg bike would only need to be doing a little over 89mph to have the same kinetic energy as a 2 ton car at 20mph. So same ballpark, really...

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