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Yet another questionably designed place to park your bike — “chocolate teapot” station bicycle rack confuses cyclists; Dave Brailsford meets Manchester United squad; An all too familiar bike theft tale; From the (Daily) Mail-bag + more on the live blog

For the first time in about two weeks we’re pretty certain what day of the week it is… Dan Alexander is on duty for your Friday live blog
  • by Dan Alexander
Fri, Jan 05, 2024 09:17
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  • Introducing the bollard-rack, the rack-llard, the boll-cycle... we'll decide on a name eventually
  • Caption competition: Sir Dave Brailsford meets the Manchester United squad
  • An all too familiar bike theft tale
  • From the (Daily) Mail-bag
  • "The church is under threat": Vicar fears cycle lane outside church car park will drive away the congregation
  • Vicar's bike lane-bashing goes down a storm... in the road.cc comments section
  • Arnold Schwarzenegger demands total recall of lawsuit filed against him by cyclist who he hit while driving an SUV
  • Another dive into the weird world of Peloton — where your class instructor might launch into an X-rated tirade about Christopher Nolan's movie Tenet
  • Cyclist killed and two critically injured in shocking Florida collision which saw group ride hit by driver of SUV
  • Yet another questionably designed place to park your bike — "chocolate teapot" station bicycle rack confuses cyclists
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5 January 2024, 09:17

Introducing the bollard-rack, the rack-llard, the boll-cycle... we'll decide on a name eventually

It’s a bollard Sheffield Stand…

Additional new bike bollard combination stands at Old Street station. However, it’s impossible to fit a standard bike frame parallel to the stand. Who designs this rubbish? pic.twitter.com/zCqw5NOsOv

— Bob From Accounts 🚲 (@BobFromAccounts) January 4, 2024

This is the original post from Bob From Accounts who sparked the dodgy cycle racks discussion. Two-thirds practical Sheffield Stand, one-third giant bollard.

5 January 2024, 09:17

Caption competition: Sir Dave Brailsford meets the Manchester United squad

Sir Jim Ratcliffe and Sir Dave Brailsford meeting Rasmus Hojlund ❤️ pic.twitter.com/vaZCFJa6il

— The United Stand (@UnitedStandMUFC) January 5, 2024

5 January 2024, 09:17

An all too familiar bike theft tale

road.cc contributor Laura Laker’s bike has been nicked…

Laura Laker's bike stolen (Twitter)
Laura Laker's bike stolen (Twitter) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Laura Laker's bike stolen (Twitter)
Laura Laker's bike stolen (Twitter) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

“I definitely should have used the good lock today,” she wrote on social media. “Thankfully the legends at my bike shop had the frame number handy when I called them.” 

The security at a nearby BT building reviewed their CCTV and found that at 11:38 yesterday morning three men arrived, one of them using an angle grinder to cut through the locks and release the bike. By 11.40 they had left with the bike…

@StolenRide stolen from an Aldgate bike rack by BT HQ 04 Jan ’24. A 2022 Medium magenta Trek FX3, mudguards and rack fitted https://t.co/HsobOFl4IO pic.twitter.com/sPPHrDyTsb

— Laura Laker (@laura_laker) January 5, 2024

5 January 2024, 09:17

From the (Daily) Mail-bag

You might have seen an old favourite return with a fresh new update for 2024…

DailyMail-headlines-header
DailyMail-headlines-header (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
DailyMail-headlines-header
DailyMail-headlines-header (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

> 20 of the most hysterical Daily Mail anti-cycling headlines

One comment made us chuckle, so we thought we’d share…

Dear Simon,

My eyes hurt having read this article and I’m beginning to wheeze; you must have the strongest of constitutions to have written this piece with no ill effects to your physical or mental health. If you are suffering then I’m sure that there’s a voluntary organisation with a 12-step programme which will help you recover from the trauma of having written this article, stay strong; we all believe in you. 

Best wishes,

Jaymack.

5 January 2024, 09:17

"The church is under threat": Vicar fears cycle lane outside church car park will drive away the congregation

St Margaret's Church car park
St Margaret's Church car park (Image Credit: Google Maps)
St Margaret's Church car park
St Margaret's Church car park (Image Credit: Google Maps)

> “The church is under threat”: Vicar fears cycle lane outside church car park will drive away the congregation

“Our bells have been ringing out since the mid-1800s… Now we face extinction simply because of a crazy traffic system…”

5 January 2024, 09:17

Vicar's bike lane-bashing goes down a storm... in the road.cc comments section

Let the record show there’s more than a touch of sarcasm in that headline. Adwi’s story about the Altrincham vicar having a pop at a cycle lane for driving away his congregation (welcome to 2024 everybody!) has at least attracted some of the best comments we’ve had on a story for a while. Top work!

Forgot Joseph and Mary took an Audi A3 to Bethlehem.

“Our bells have been ringing out since the mid-1800s” The first car was invented in 1886….

— Andy (@AndrewButrz) January 5, 2024

Rendel Harris:

“We can show you the way to salvation and eternal paradise.”

“Sounds great, what’s the catch?”

“You will have to drive a little way round the one-way system.”

“Stuff that, can’t be bothered.”

Clem Fandango: “Forget tanks & drones. How about we build a cycle lane along Ukraine’s border with Russia — surely that’s a guaranteed way to prevent Vlad’s boys from entering Ukraine?

And it came to pass in the land of the faithful that a new cycle lane emerged, diverting the path to the sacred church by a mere minute
Yet, some among the believers, vexed by this slight detour, found themselves absent from the pews, their hearts swayed by the unexpected journey pic.twitter.com/YgKLxrfpIu

— Harry 🚲🥑🏗️ (@H_H_Gray) January 5, 2024

EDIT: Oh, and there really is a Dave Walker cartoon for every situation…

I don’t know the specifics here, whether this is a good cycle lane design, etc, but to my mind it’s unfortunate when churches make headlines for opposing cycling infrastructure. https://t.co/1ZpXFITkvs pic.twitter.com/oe6y6gEJwt

— Dave Walker (@davewalker) January 5, 2024

5 January 2024, 09:17

Arnold Schwarzenegger demands total recall of lawsuit filed against him by cyclist who he hit while driving an SUV

Arnold Schwarzenegger on a bike (image: @Gogo6969 on Flickr, CC BY-NC 2.0 DEED)
Arnold Schwarzenegger on a bike (image: @Gogo6969 on Flickr, CC BY-NC 2 (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Arnold Schwarzenegger on a bike (image: @Gogo6969 on Flickr, CC BY-NC 2.0 DEED)
Arnold Schwarzenegger on a bike (image: @Gogo6969 on Flickr, CC BY-NC 2 (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

> Arnold Schwarzenegger demands total recall of lawsuit filed against him by cyclist who he hit while driving an SUV

5 January 2024, 09:17

Another dive into the weird world of Peloton — where your class instructor might launch into an X-rated tirade about Christopher Nolan's movie Tenet

Peloton. You know, the really expensive stationary bike service, used by Rishi Sunak, Joe Biden, and other people with above average sums of disposable income, that allows you to do home spin sessions with an instructor? Yep, the one which boomed during the pandemic but has seen its share price fall off a cliff since.

Peloton Bike (credit: Peloton)
Peloton Bike (credit: Peloton) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Peloton Bike (credit: Peloton)
Peloton Bike (credit: Peloton) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

> End of lockdown wipes billions off Peloton’s market value

Here at road.cc we’ve largely watched from afar, obliged to report occasionaly on lawsuits or share-plummeting at one of the world’s biggest cycling-related businesses, but with the knowledge the product hasn’t ever really landed with the sort of cyclists who visit our website. 

One entertaining thing that has come from Peloton is the extensive backcatalogue of the service’s class instructors being… how can we put this politely? A bit bizarre…

There was the instructor who, at the end of 2020, asked her class to climb in honour of their dead relatives. But now we’ve got a new sprinkling of unintentional comedy gold for the genre…

pic.twitter.com/C6MjCZJkmq

— Jason Koebler (@jason_koebler) January 4, 2024

 This has all come to light because Tenet’s director Christopher Nolan said he was doing the class when he was suddenly bombarded with this X-rated review. 

“I was on my Peloton. I’m dying. And the instructor started talking about one of my films and said, ‘Did anyone see this? That’s a couple hours of my life I’ll never get back again!” Nolan said during his acceptance speech for ‘Best Director’ at the New York Film Critics Circle award ceremony on Wednesday, Variety reports.

Addressing the review of the review, Peloton instructor Jen Sherman wrote on Instagram: “Listen. It was 2020. It was a dark time. I’m on the platform, teaching my little class, and I’m running my mouth off like I’m known to do. And I make a random comment about a movie I had seen the night before. What do you think the odds are that the director of said movie would take that ride some four years later? That would only happen to me.”

Yeah, I think I’ll stick to freezing, wet rides and the turbo thank you very much…

5 January 2024, 09:17

Cyclist killed and two critically injured in shocking Florida collision which saw group ride hit by driver of SUV

Florida driver hits group of cyclists
Florida driver hits group of cyclists (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Florida driver hits group of cyclists
Florida driver hits group of cyclists (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

> Cyclist killed and two critically injured in shocking Florida collision which saw group ride hit by driver of SUV

5 January 2024, 09:17

Yet another questionably designed place to park your bike — "chocolate teapot" station bicycle rack confuses cyclists

Drumroll please…

Similarly at Wandsworth Town station this cocktail bike rack as been recently installed – though possibly better described as a chocolate tea pot pic.twitter.com/wQRKBXveVF

— Human & Travels (@humantravl) January 4, 2024

‘What’s so confusing about that?’ I hear some future commenter ask. Well, perhaps not the how to use it aspect of this ‘bike rack’, but more the commonly seen decision of councils and planners to opt for seemingly novelty bike parking solutions rather than just giving us a practical row of Sheffield Stands. It really is that simple. A row of properly installed, secure metal racks, that’s all we’re after.

The matter is even more important for riders of cargo bikes, trikes, or other types of bicycle that might not be able to be rolled up in the air and locked in place as this one asks. It’s a similar discussion to what we hear about bike storage facilities on trains (obviously without some of the added booking, availability and cost-related issues there) where storage often requires riders to hoist their bike upright to fit in a tiny cupboard, for want of a better word.

> “Vertical bike storage is discriminatory and should be outright banned”: Rail engineer Gareth Dennis explains why taking your bike on the train is such a faff on the road.cc Podcast

Fine if you’re relatively strong and riding a road bike with narrow bars. Not so for many other types of bicycle.

Human & Travels spotted this “chocolate teapot” bike parking ‘facility’ outside Wandsworth station in south London, saying it had been recently installed. Needless to say it’s caused a fair amount of eye rolling, eyebrow raising, face palming, and any other ways of expressing negative emotions with your facial features…

Ben Furfie suggested in reply, “Insurers should sue stations that install those. It’s impossible to securely lock bikes to them; and don’t get me started on bikes used as mobility aids for the less abled, or bikes used as car replacements like cargo bikes.”

“There is a similar set-up at a place I’ve biked to. Totally worthless. All the bikes were locked around the area to signs and posts,” another said.

On the plus side, at least we’ve now got another one for the collection…

Worst bike racks
Worst bike racks (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Worst bike racks
Worst bike racks (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

> Worst bike racks — from the useless to utterly unusable places to park your bicycle 

5 January 2024, 09:17

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Dan is the road.cc news editor and joined in 2020 having previously written about nearly every other sport under the sun for the Express, and the weird and wonderful world of non-league football for The Non-League Paper. Dan has been at road.cc for four years and mainly writes news and tech articles as well as the occasional feature. He has hopefully kept you entertained on the live blog too. Never fast enough to take things on the bike too seriously, when he’s not working you’ll find him exploring the south of England by two wheels at a leisurely weekend pace, or enjoying his favourite Scottish roads when visiting family. Sometimes he’ll even load up the bags and ride up the whole way, he’s a bit strange like that.  

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32 thoughts on “Yet another questionably designed place to park your bike — “chocolate teapot” station bicycle rack confuses cyclists; Dave Brailsford meets Manchester United squad; An all too familiar bike theft tale; From the (Daily) Mail-bag + more on the live blog”

  1. Secret_squirrel
    January 5, 2024 at 9:32 am
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    Its worth a reference to

    Its worth a reference to BobFromAccounts tweet that started the thread on crap bike stands.  ….I give you the merger no-one asked for – the Bollarded Sheffield stand.

    https://x.com/BobFromAccounts/status/1742881962187018322?s=20

     

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    • Moist von Lipwig
      January 5, 2024 at 12:00 pm
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      If thats in front of a

      If thats in front of a station forecourt area then those are Hostile Vehicle Mitigation bollards as well, so lock your bile to those racks and you might get a lorry driven into it at 40mph…

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  2. hutchdaddy
    January 5, 2024 at 9:33 am
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    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12907179/Vicar-cycle-lane-church-threat.html

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    • the little onion
      January 5, 2024 at 9:48 am
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      The cycle lane threatens

      The cycle lane threatens people’s ability to get to church by car? Apparently the church was built in the 1850s, so presumably those victorian christians drove to church.

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    • Dan Alexander
      January 5, 2024 at 9:55 am
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      More on this later…

      More on this later…

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  3. ROOTminus1
    January 5, 2024 at 10:17 am
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    Caption contest:
    Caption contest:
    DB – “Quick question, do you know what a jiffy bag is?”
    RH – “Giffy? Yiffy? What kind of bag is this?”
    DB – “Perfect!”

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  4. NotNigel
    January 5, 2024 at 10:51 am
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    Re: Laura laker’s bike theft.

    Re: Laura laker’s bike theft.  Am I not right in thinking with the thieves now using angle grinders that it is irrelevant what type of lock people use in that they could just chop through the stands?  

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    • Steve K
      January 5, 2024 at 11:54 am
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      NotNigel wrote:

      Re: Laura laker’s bike theft.  Am I not right in thinking with the thieves now using angle grinders that it is irrelevant what type of lock people use in that they could just chop through the stands?  

      — NotNigel

      This is what worries me about my super Hiplok D1000.

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      • Hirsute
        January 5, 2024 at 12:55 pm
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        I’ve just got one of those.

        I’ve just got one of those. The shop advised me to take a photo for insurance purposes everytime I lock up !

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    • Matthew Acton-Varian
      January 5, 2024 at 12:04 pm
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      It depends on the thickness

      It depends on the thickness and hardness of the Stands themselves. Some insight on that specifically would be useful.

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    • ROOTminus1
      January 5, 2024 at 12:16 pm
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      The function of locks has
      The function of locks has long been a deterrent rather than prevention; to make your bike more of a inconvenience to steal than the next bike along.
      Determined thieves are equipping themselves with more than grinders, so nothing will actually stop them.
      Hans Rey’s garage, the trials and MTB legend, was targeted with a gas axe to get through steel rebar a few years back.

      Hans Rey has bikes stolen in East Midlands… twice

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      • NotNigel
        January 5, 2024 at 2:02 pm
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        I suppose if stands and locks

        I suppose if stands and locks where 100% thief proof they would just resort to forcefully acquiring your ride once you’d unlocked it.  I know how id like to have my bike nicked if it unfortunately happened.

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    • Rendel Harris
      January 5, 2024 at 2:05 pm
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      NotNigel wrote:

      Re: Laura laker’s bike theft.  Am I not right in thinking with the thieves now using angle grinders that it is irrelevant what type of lock people use in that they could just chop through the stands?  

      — NotNigel

      Not entirely irrelevant: quite a few of the thieves caught on CCTV around my neck of the woods appear to be ambulatory and carry battery-powered angle grinders in rucksacks, riding away on the bike once they have broken the lock. For that type of scrote cutting the stand probably isn’t a good option as they would then have to carry the bike away with the concomitant risk of being spotted by the rozzers. Obviously this isn’t a consideration for the more “professional” mobs that go around in vans and can drive the bike away to dismantle the lock at their leisure.

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      • Brauchsel
        January 5, 2024 at 2:49 pm
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        Rendel Harris wrote:

        For that type of scrote cutting the stand probably isn’t a good option as they would then have to carry the bike away with the concomitant risk of being spotted by the rozzers. 

        — Rendel Harris

        It’s a risk some of our local scrotes are happy to accept, as I found out a few years ago after only being able to lock my front wheel to the (vertical) stands in my then-building’s “secure” bike storage area. Said scrote was pictured on CCTV wandering off with the rest of the bike slung nonchalantly over a shoulder. No arrests. 

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      • NotNigel
        January 5, 2024 at 6:40 pm
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        Good point, we’re that used

        Good point, we’re that used to seeing them working in groups and riding off on their mopeds etc…

        and when I say seeing I mean through media, I’ve never witnessed it first hand

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    • Rome73
      January 6, 2024 at 8:27 am
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      Yesterday I had to lock and

      Yesterday I had to lock and leave unattended one of my Riese & Muller bikes (which I rarely do and don’t like to do) I used a chain lock, a dlock, a rear wheel lock, a front wheel lock and a motion alarm. It is all about deterrence – make it as difficult and as unappealing as possible for the thieves and hope they move on. 

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  5. Steve K
    January 5, 2024 at 11:54 am
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    Some wholesome content for a

    Some wholesome content for a Friday lunchtime.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-67881615

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    • SimoninSpalding
      January 5, 2024 at 12:01 pm
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      But just think about how many

      But just think about how many cars he selfishly held up!

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  6. SimoninSpalding
    January 5, 2024 at 11:57 am
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    Looking at those Sheffollards

    Looking at those Sheffollards I suspect that their initial primary purpose is as vehicle arrestors to protect the station and pedestrians from terrorist attacks, but some bright spark decided to try and make them “multipurpose”

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  7. marmotte27
    January 5, 2024 at 12:23 pm
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    One would think that Church
    One would think that Church would be about preserving God’s Creation…
    In any case, if your affair depends on cars, you should probably rethink it asap…

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  8. marmotte27
    January 5, 2024 at 12:27 pm
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    Sheffield stands, Sheffield
    Sheffield stands, Sheffield stands, Sheffield stands,
    Sheffield stands, Sheffield stands, Sheffield stands,
    Sheffield stands, Sheffield stands, Sheffield stands,
    Sheffield stands, Sheffield stands, Sheffield stands,…
    Please ! Pretty please ?!

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  9. dmkurt
    January 5, 2024 at 1:15 pm
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    It’s almost as though the
    It’s almost as though the people in the UK who design bike lanes and bike parking have never actually used a bike before. Or seen one.
    Definitely as though they have never looked at a system that actually works – a quick hop over to the Netherlands and they would see what we actually need in the UK and how easy it would be to implement.

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    • chrisonabike
      January 5, 2024 at 1:54 pm
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      I agree with the principle. 

      I agree with the principle.  We should just copy what works.

      I also spent lots of time in “why don’t they get it – it’s so obvious” mode.  However the “just do it ‘cos it’s better” part turns out to be immensely hard – because self-reinforcing systems and ultimately “humans”.  Even (pretty trivial) stuff like “just don’t use crap cycle stand designs”.  For example that was beyond the abilities of the Edinburgh tram builders despite them being an (arms-length) company established by the council which (now) has sensible detailed standards for exactly this…

      On the positive side this article about actually achieving change may be interesting.

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  10. tigersnapper
    January 5, 2024 at 2:12 pm
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    Caption:

    Caption:

    DB – Think we’re going to need more than marginal gains to fix this lot.

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  11. stewcelliott
    January 5, 2024 at 2:41 pm
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    A lot of those wacky bike

    A lot of those wacky bike rack designs seem motivated in part by a desire to save space and that really is our culture in a microcosm, where we see bicycles as “hogging the road” or “strewn across pavements” but are blind to the gargantuan amount of space wasted by cars.

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    • brooksby
      January 5, 2024 at 2:55 pm
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      stewcelliott wrote:

      A lot of those wacky bike rack designs seem motivated in part by a desire to save space and that really is our culture in a microcosm, where we see bicycles as “hogging the road” or “strewn across pavements” but are blind to the gargantuan amount of space wasted by cars.

      — stewcelliott

      As an example:

      https://maps.app.goo.gl/gb2Kqh9DSjioZoye9

      This is not, in point of fact, a convenient city centre car park.

      It is supposed to be a pedestrian plaza and a cut-through between Rupert Street and Nelson Street in central Bristol.

      And at lunchtime today it was filled right back to and over the footway nearest the streetview camera, and no pedestrian with a pushchair would have been able to get through or even get past 

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  12. stonojnr
    January 5, 2024 at 4:48 pm
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    Surprised, given the football
    Surprised, given the football theme of the blog, you hadn’t noticed Klopp is advertising for peloton thesedays

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    • mark1a
      January 5, 2024 at 5:10 pm
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      stonojnr wrote:

      Surprised, given the football theme of the blog, you hadn’t noticed Klopp is advertising for peloton thesedays

      — stonojnr

      What has Peloton®™ got to do with cycling? ??

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    • Wardy74
      January 5, 2024 at 9:23 pm
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      A bit like you can’t out
      A bit like you can’t out-train a bad diet, you can’t out-advertise a bad product. It hasn’t stopped Peloton trying though.

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  13. Hirsute
    January 5, 2024 at 9:27 pm
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    Tin foil hat anyone ?
    Tin foil hat anyone ?
    Twitter X
    “Online cyclist rings should be investigated for the mass amounts of intrusive footage of the inside of family cars that they store, share and collate. It wouldn’t be wasting police time, it might be worth seeing where all this invasive secret filming goes.”

    Pizzagate run by road cc !!!

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    • chrisonabike
      January 5, 2024 at 10:42 pm
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      Hirsute wrote:

      Twitter X “Online cyclist rings should be investigated for the mass amounts of intrusive footage of the inside of family cars that they store, share and collate. It wouldn’t be wasting police time, it might be worth seeing where all this invasive secret filming goes.”

      — Hirsute

      They should just ask wtjs for evidence about both where the footage goes and the amount of time that police waste on investigating it!

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      • wtjs
        January 6, 2024 at 11:21 am
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        They should just ask wtjs for

        They should just ask wtjs for evidence about both where the footage goes and the amount of time that police waste on investigating it!

        Online paedophile cyclist rings peering inside cars at children shock! No harm to hard-working respectable motorists resulted from the making of this video (I was reminded of this but it’s not on UpRide, yet). This is Peugeot 208 MC65 NDF, and you can see the woman driver’s hand as she leans over to shout something incomprehensible at me

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OldTom 51 minutes ago

U ok, hun?

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mikeclarke 2 hours ago

PEDELEC is the correct name for a bicycle powered by human muscles via pedals assisted by an electric motor limited to 250 Watts that cannot exceed 15.5 mph under power. Why do the media insist on labelling these as E-Bikes thus confusing the general public and politicians. Strictly speaking, a pedal-assist bicycle limited to 250W and 25 km/h is a pedelec (pedal electric cycle), whereas a true e-bike can operate via a hand throttle without any pedaling. The media label everything an "E-Bike" for several practical reasons: Linguistic SimplicityShorter and punchier: "E-bike" has two syllables and is easy to say in headlines. Catchall umbrella term: General vocabulary evolves faster than technical or legal definitions. Public recognition: Most consumers already know the phrase "e-bike," making niche terms like pedelec or EPAC less commercially effective for broad communication. Media and Political Impact/Sensationalism: Lumping all motorised cycles together makes it easier to write dramatic stories about speed, weight, or pavement/sidewalk danger. Policy confusion: Politicians react to generalised media terms, sometimes blurring the legal lines between a gentle 250W pedelec and a high-powered throttle bike or a 45 km/h speed pedelec.

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ROOTminus1 6 hours ago

@andystow I think that hand beats the house, but I still wouldn't raise the bet. The only way to win is not to play

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With all due respect to Adam Hansen, his comments regarding helmets are not helpful at this time. Thankfully it seems to be a minor part in his message to the more significant issue of how rolling road blocks are managed, but I question the inclusion of it in this brief. Measures for race course management may be immediately implementable, but any changes to safety equipment would take R&D, QC, and production time, and all that after the discussion of the minimum efficacy and overall role of helmets can be agreed. A topic infamous for never being resolved to anyone's satisfaction. The Tarling family don't need knee-jerk reactions to already contentious debates distracting from their grief, and the riders in the peloton need effective changes to give assurance that their safety is paramount in the minds of the race organisers. *Edit - I commented here before I caught up on the daily blog, seems the head of EF has similar concerns but in fewer words.

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@ChrisA I don't see your point. A Tesla Cybertruck is common way for moneyed inbreds to self-identity in the US but they're illegal to import and register across western Europe. A to-code American suburban family home by UK building regulations is nothing but a glorified garden shed. Legal definitions of acceptable standards differ between different countries, bicycles are no different.

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ktache 7 hours ago

On a bicycle you say...

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There's no such thing as an American (as in USA) EAPC. It's a term from EU/UK regulations. In the USA they'd just be Class 1 or Class 2. Legally speaking, if it doesn't fit within the bounds of an EAPC (15.5 mph motor cutout, etc.) then it does count as a motorbike, whether it can move without rider input or not.

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Bloody 15-mile-an-hour cycle limits why can't we drivers in central London get to go 15mph it's not fair? Next thing the cabbies will be demanding 5mph limits (it's on the meter mate)...

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chrisonabike 8 hours ago

I say potato, you say potato ... let's call the whole thing off. Perhaps we could all agree to simply abide by (Catholic) church law ... and that able-bodied folks need all the extra motors like a capybara needs a bicycle? (Alas that won't do, any more than pointing out that nobody "needed" AI but a handful of years ago... or indeed mass market cars in the late 1800s.)

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@Nigel Garage So they're locking me into my locale...by only allowing me to ride fifteen miles away from my home in an hour, a time and a speed that from my inner London abode can put me into any of London's thirty-two boroughs, the City of London and five adjoining counties. I'm not feeling that claustrophobic, to be honest.

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