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Record-breaking John O’Groats to Land’s End…on a 7-seat conference bike; RideLondon is a “middle-class jamboree” comment sparks healthy discussion about event’s merits; Is Froome back?; Car ownership falls; Close pass hipster + more on the live blog

It’s Tuesday and Dan Alexander is in the saddle for another day on the live blog
  • by Dan Alexander
Tue, May 31, 2022 08:10
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SUMMARY

  • "Humans gonna human"
  • RideLondon is a "middle-class jamboree" comment sparks healthy discussion about event's merits
  • Council and charities to provide free bikes for Ukrainian refugees
  • Half term tumbleweed
  • Former vicar to cycle from Cumbria to Rome...carrying a cello
  • Hipster highlights close pass effect...using his vape (of course)
  • UK car ownership falls 0.2% – the first consecutive annual decrease in car ownership in more than 100 years
  • Is he returning to win the Tour de France or running for UCI president?
  • Tech of the week
  • Why cyclists don't use cycle lanes...
  • "At the end of the day, RideLondon does no real harm and the sums raised for charity by the participants should not be overlooked": RideLondon reaction — is it all just a "middle-class jamboree"?
  • "I'm trying to get back to my old self again. I'm not there, but I'm definitely one step closer": Chris Froome on the comeback path?
  • Record-breaking John O'Groats to Land's End...on a 7-seat conference bike
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31 May 2022, 08:10

"Humans gonna human"

Humans gonna human https://t.co/xlpSvDUJjy

— HappyToast ★ (@IamHappyToast) May 30, 2022

If you missed it: Parked cars block cycle lane – while their owners ride static bikes in park 

31 May 2022, 08:10

RideLondon is a "middle-class jamboree" comment sparks healthy discussion about event's merits

RideLondon is a big enough event that, along with thousands of satisfied participants, you’re always going to attract comments suggesting it might not be all that. This self-professed ‘unpopular opinion’ goes further, however, and labels it the “Park Run of active travel”…the horror…

Unpopular opinion – #RideLondon is a middle class jamboree that, far from advancing everyday cycling, perpetuates the myth that cyclists are guests on our roads, to be occasionally tolerated, and that cycling is primarily a leisure activity.

It’s the @parkrun of active travel.

— Jon Burke FRSA 🌍 (@jonburkeUK) May 30, 2022

The comment from Jon Burke prompted a (strangely for Twitter) healthy discussion about the event and the RideLondon FreeCycle (a circuit of closed roads in central London on the same day as the sportive aimed at getting kids and families who otherwise might not cycle in the capital the opportunity to do so).

Outspoken active traveller Jeremy Vine disagreed saying he’d “happened upon it” and thought it was “glorious”.

“Happy, not pushy, not even sporty. Good vibes,” he tweeted.

As for Ride London – whether or not it encourages more people to ride for transport overall, it’s still a great event. People who ride for leisure still get the health benefits.

— Peter Walker (@peterwalker99) May 30, 2022

Disagree – training for RideLondon 46 got me fit enough & confident enough on roads to consider using bikes as an everyday transport mode. Fast forward 6 years & we are car-free. And for my mum, Freecycle got her into cycling, as outlined here 👇 https://t.co/WvBiKyOOC7

— Charlotte Baker (@charlie_baker23) May 30, 2022

You haven’t disagreed with my point. Either of them.

— Jon Burke FRSA 🌍 (@jonburkeUK) May 30, 2022

Which has famously had a huge impact on national fitness and obesity levels…🤔

— Jon Burke FRSA 🌍 (@jonburkeUK) May 30, 2022

When was the last time you saw someone running and dissed them in your head cos it’s not utility. Cycling should be the same.
There is a disconnect between sport and utility cycling in UK, but that is largely an infrastructure provision issue.
Anyone on a bike is cool by me.

— Real Gaz on a proper bike #fbpe (@gazza_d) May 30, 2022

A few of you got in touch yesterday with your experience of the day… 

tigersnapper said: “Seeing John O’Connell’s tweet, I went up to London yesterday with the wife to tootle around on the FreeRide. It was great to see so many people of all ages and abilities on their bikes. I also noticed the team members of the parked up team buses stood clapping those of us chugging along past them which I thought was a real encouragement to keep people riding.”

zeeridesbikes added: “Really great to see the locals cheering us on during RL yesterday. The atmosphere was good and I though it was really well organised. Route was a bit dull and the amount of littering was really disappointing. Other than that I really enjoyed it although won’t be signing up for 2023.”

31 May 2022, 08:10

Council and charities to provide free bikes for Ukrainian refugees

Ukraine flag
Ukraine flag (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Ukraine flag
Ukraine flag (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

South Cambridgeshire council noted that the area has received the seventh highest number of visas issued as part of the Homes for Ukraine scheme, and said they had teamed up with two local charities to help guests feel welcome.

Quality refurbished bike sellers OWL Bikes and life skills charity Camtrust are supplying Ukrainian guests with some vital transport in the form of a second-hand bike, as well as providing a helmet and lock free of charge.

“Once again, our communities are coming together to provide meaningful support to people arriving from Ukraine; and this time two excellent local charities are also stepping up to make a difference,” Cllr Bill Handley told Cambridge Network.

“The bicycles provided to guests from Ukraine will mean they can get out and about in South Cambridgeshire, be better connected to other guests and villages, explore our beautiful countryside, and stay active during the summer months. This is important to help our guests settle in, meet-up and get around when public transport might not be an option.”

“I’m truly grateful to OWL Bikes and Camtrust for supplying the bicycles for this scheme. It is yet another example of the incredible community spirit that exists throughout the district and the council is very pleased to be able to help co-ordinate the scheme.”

Bikes can be requested here…

31 May 2022, 08:10

Half term tumbleweed

Half term once again proving that it’s not cycle lanes that cause traffic

— a person in W5 (@W5Person) May 31, 2022

31 May 2022, 08:10

Former vicar to cycle from Cumbria to Rome...carrying a cello

 
 
 
 
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A post shared by Jen Wilson (@jen_wilson93)

 Kenneth Wilson is cycling from Hadrian’s Wall to Rome kitted up with his cello on the back of his bike. Wilson told the News & Star the journey is “from the edge of empire to its heart”, and the ‘poetical cellist’ will be performing in each of the places he stops (for the night presumably, not just a layby on the A65).

“Playing the cello is the most important part of it, I’ll be playing music wherever I stop. I have gigs booked at each stop in the UK but once I get over the Channel and arrive in France and Italy it’ll very much be a case of turning up and playing,” he said.

“I haven’t done a massive cycle since the summer I left school when I cycled round the coastline of England with a friend to celebrate the end of our studies. I decided to do this at the end of last year so have done a bit of training since then.”

Wilson is expecting the journey to take five weeks, and is detailing his progress on his blog. 

Last week on the blog we talked about the nightmare that is taking a bike on trains, who knows how you get a cello-laden bike into one of those dreaded upright bike storage facilities? Turns out, you can’t. “I need to post my bike back to Cumbria and then travel back with my cello.”

31 May 2022, 08:10

Hipster highlights close pass effect...using his vape (of course)

The close pass effect. https://t.co/ho5JhiDFDW

— 🚴‍♂️🚙Carlton💙🇺🇦💛🐩🚶‍♂️ (@carlton1512) May 30, 2022

31 May 2022, 08:10

UK car ownership falls 0.2% – the first consecutive annual decrease in car ownership in more than 100 years

Cars in London (licensed CC BY SA 2.0 on Flickr by Pettras Gagilas)
Cars in London (licensed CC BY SA 2 (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Cars in London (licensed CC BY SA 2.0 on Flickr by Pettras Gagilas)
Cars in London (licensed CC BY SA 2 (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

(Licensed CC BY SA 2.0 on Flickr by Pettras Gagilas)

The latest Motorparc data released by the Society of Motor Manufacturers and Traders (SMMT) shows that while the number of vehicles in the UK grew 0.4 per cent to 40,506,971 in 2021, car ownership fell by 0.2 per cent to 35,023,652 – the first consecutive annual decrease in more than 100 years.

SMMT says this is, in part, due to more advanced technology and greater reliability of new vehicles, and partly due to the impact of lockdowns on component shortages and closed dealerships.

31 May 2022, 08:10

Is he returning to win the Tour de France or running for UCI president?

Yesterday, a certain unnamed bookmaker was spotted taking bets on Dan Martin to win the Tour de France at 500-1…

Today he seems to be running for David Lappartient’s job…

The UCI points system is broken but it’s a stage race vs 1 day race issue. Win 2 x WT 1 day race and you get the same points as 1st GC TDF. A 1.1 is the same as a stage in TDF. However it s an impossible task to create a fair system for everybody

— Dan Martin (@DanMartin86) May 31, 2022

And someone’s a fan…

Dan for the president!

— Tadej Pogačar (@TamauPogi) May 31, 2022

Incidentally, on the subject of bookmaker blunders…

Not quite sure how, but you can currently get 16/1 on @odb1912 being the next Notts County boss via BetVictor.

Omulo is apparently more likely to take over at Meadow Lane than Kenny Jackett, Michael Carrick and Neil Warnock (all 33/1). pic.twitter.com/A3QReYZuRw

— Alex Jones (@AlexJCambs) May 31, 2022

Yes, that is some random person’s mate being priced up for the top job… anyway, enough football, we’ll be back with more live blog action after lunch…

31 May 2022, 08:10

Tech of the week

Next time you see me riding I’ll be on my horse.😏 pic.twitter.com/e7josIo1HL

— Sara 🥷🚲 (@SezRamos) May 30, 2022

31 May 2022, 08:10

Why cyclists don't use cycle lanes...

Cycle lane pros
Cycle lane pros (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Cycle lane pros
Cycle lane pros (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Look at these road hoggers thinking they’re in the Tour de France, riding in the middle of the lane…

Jakub Fuglsang just won the Mercan’Tour Classic Alpes-Maritimes one-day race (if anyone cares). A certain Chris Froome was looking quite good for a while…I wonder if his disc brakes have stopped rubbing?

31 May 2022, 08:10

"At the end of the day, RideLondon does no real harm and the sums raised for charity by the participants should not be overlooked": RideLondon reaction — is it all just a "middle-class jamboree"?

Shame it doesn’t still come through Dorking as the photo shows. Folk have no idea how much of the charity money came back into our area in the form of playgrounds, sport pavilions, even stuff that was off route benefited way more than locals ever give.

— The original BeerBiker (@BeerBiker) May 31, 2022

For any of you eagle-eyed Dorkingphiles out there, yes that’s the old route, no we don’t have any pictures from the new route…yet…

Some of your RideLondon thoughts…

SimoninSpalding said: “I don’t believe in the outdated notion of a class structure, but obviously an event like RideLondon is going to be predominantly for people with a reasonably comfortable income and lifestyle. Households relying on food banks to feed their kids and not having money for the electricity bill will not be dropping £100 to enter, regardless of their levels of fitness etc.

“Equally, the route I am guessing stuck to the more leafy parts of Essex, I doubt the more industrial/ less affluent areas along the Thames featured too highly.

“I do agree that in my experience (several years ago now) the FreeCycle event was a joy to behold and a vision of how great central London could be if more effort was made for active travel.

“At the end of the day, RideLondon does no real harm and the sums raised for charity by the participants should not be overlooked.”

Smoggysteve added: “This country is never ever going to move forward with its healthcare targets if all it cares about is cars and drivers. Congestion in our cities, poor air quality and then when people try to live a better lifestlye and get out and exercise they are lambasted for it. RideLondon might be a middle-class lycrathon but its still a day of minimal car use and people doing something healthy. If you find that offensive then you’re a total moron.”

racyrich commented: “I thought only poor people who couldn’t afford a car rode bikes. Now it’s only the middle class. I can’t keep up.”

Steve K thinks: “Anything that gets people on bikes is a good thing, because then they remember how much fun it is to ride a bike, and may consider doing it more often. Plus seeing London car-free might encourage people to realise that if we stop car dominance, cities become much nicer places.”

I’d say that’s a nice place to stop…

31 May 2022, 08:10

"I'm trying to get back to my old self again. I'm not there, but I'm definitely one step closer": Chris Froome on the comeback path?

Froome was dropped on the first slopes to Valberg. Still, good to see him at a more than decent level, he can improve until the Tour. #mercantourclassic pic.twitter.com/GPMgg6OMUF

— Mihai Simion (@faustocoppi60) May 31, 2022

Chris Froome finished 11th at the Mercan’Tour Classic Alpes-Maritimes, a one-day race that mimics a Grand Tour high mountain stage, as teammates Jakub Fuglsang and Mike Woods completed a 1-2 for Israel-Premier Tech.

At the finish, Froome said “he’s one step closer” but opted out of completing the lyric…’to the edge and I’m about to break’…

Froomey has always been more Katy Perry than Linkin Park to be fair…

“I’ve seen a big progression these last couple of months, I’ve just come off a training camp now, the legs are feeling good. The next step will be the Critérium du Dauphiné. I’m just taking it one week at a time, focusing on building the feeling of momentum.”

31 May 2022, 08:10

Record-breaking John O'Groats to Land's End...on a 7-seat conference bike

Conference seater LEJOG (Image: Cyclists Fighting Cancer)
Conference seater LEJOG (Image: Cyclists Fighting Cancer) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Conference seater LEJOG (Image: Cyclists Fighting Cancer)
Conference seater LEJOG (Image: Cyclists Fighting Cancer) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

A team of cyclists and university friends who aimed to cycle 865 miles from John O’Groats to Land’s End on a seven-seater conference bike, and raise funds for Cyclists Fighting Cancer, have completed their challenge.

Conference seater record (Image: Cyclists Fighting Cancer)
Conference seater record (Image: Cyclists Fighting Cancer) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Conference seater record (Image: Cyclists Fighting Cancer)
Conference seater record (Image: Cyclists Fighting Cancer) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Setting off on Sunday 22 May, two core teams of riders cycled in shifts through the days and nights, on a 200kg seven-seater conference bike. The previous Guinness World Record for the same route travelled on a conference bike was set in 2010, by a team of 194 people taking over 28 days; but this group completed the challenge in five days, 21 hours with 15 core riders, and have raised over £18,000 so far.

“Despite most of the team being experienced riders, it took a lot of mental as well as physical energy to keep going – especially through the nights,” one of the riders Colin Bolton said. 

“The generous donations and the truly inspiring work that Cyclists Fighting Cancer does to support children and families living with cancer kept us pedalling until the very end!”

“We are so impressed by the team’s mammoth achievement and efforts in completing their challenge,” Cyclists Fighting Cancer CEO Mike Grisenthwaite said. 

“We are also grateful for their wonderful fundraising efforts: the team has raised over £18,000 so far, which will fund over 36 new lightweight bikes, tandems and specially adapted trikes to children and young people living with and beyond cancer.”

Cyclists Fighting Cancer

31 May 2022, 08:10

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“Trans rights are human rights,” says Rapha – “all athletes should have the opportunity to race”

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31 May 2022, 08:10

Road rage minibus driver who rammed cyclist off his bike in front of shocked passengers could be jailed

Road rage minibus driver who rammed cyclist off his bike in front of shocked passengers could be jailed

“Your attitude to driving almost beggars belief,” sheriff tells Charles Yorston

31 May 2022, 08:10

Jai Hindley’s 2022 Giro d’Italia winning bikes: a closer look at the Specialized Tarmac SL7 and Shiv that he propelled to victory

Jai Hindley’s 2022 Giro d’Italia winning bikes: a closer look at the Specialized Tarmac SL7 and Shiv that he propelled to victory

It takes more than a nice bike to win the Giro, but it certainly helps. We take an in-depth look at Jai Hindley’s rather special Specialized rides

31 May 2022, 08:10

Petition calls on BBC to fire Jeremy Vine over close pass Waitrose lorry driver video

Petition calls on BBC to fire Jeremy Vine over close pass Waitrose lorry driver video

Driver was incorrectly said to have been suspended by Waitrose after broadcaster posted footage to Twitter of near miss on police officer

31 May 2022, 08:10

Two arrested as plainclothes police rush to aid of woman being mugged for bike at knifepoint

Two arrested as plainclothes police rush to aid of woman being mugged for bike at knifepoint

Officers had been investigating another attempted robbery in Walthamstow Marshes when they intervened

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Dan is the road.cc news editor and joined in 2020 having previously written about nearly every other sport under the sun for the Express, and the weird and wonderful world of non-league football for The Non-League Paper. Dan has been at road.cc for four years and mainly writes news and tech articles as well as the occasional feature. He has hopefully kept you entertained on the live blog too. Never fast enough to take things on the bike too seriously, when he’s not working you’ll find him exploring the south of England by two wheels at a leisurely weekend pace, or enjoying his favourite Scottish roads when visiting family. Sometimes he’ll even load up the bags and ride up the whole way, he’s a bit strange like that.  

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54 thoughts on “Record-breaking John O’Groats to Land’s End…on a 7-seat conference bike; RideLondon is a “middle-class jamboree” comment sparks healthy discussion about event’s merits; Is Froome back?; Car ownership falls; Close pass hipster + more on the live blog”

  1. Shelders
    May 31, 2022 at 8:20 am
    0

    Can I dare to ask what the

    Can I dare to ask what the response was to this question on The Times?

    (Can’t read it as I don’t subscribe)

    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/how-can-we-stop-cyclists-using-our-footpath-965v65xp8

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    • Hirsute
      May 31, 2022 at 8:30 am
      0

      Deter with signs and mitigate

      Deter with signs and gates and mitigate against accidents.

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      • Steve K
        May 31, 2022 at 8:42 am
        0

        Yes, not a terrible response,

        Yes, not a terrible response, but a bit of “are they really doing any harm or are you just blowing this out of proportion” might have been nice!

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    • chrisonabike
      May 31, 2022 at 9:30 am
      0

      Get it designated as a

      Get it designated as a motorway.  Better make sure there’s no hard shoulder though…

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      • Clem Fandango
        May 31, 2022 at 10:02 am
        0

        Or turn it into a “cyle path”

        Or turn it into a “cyle path” –  apparently no cyclist ever uses them. Ever.

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        • chrisonabike
          May 31, 2022 at 10:11 am
          0

          They’re not safe though.

          They’re not safe though.

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-a2v7V8EJw

          For a laugh, here’s some dutch “bbc style” stuff about safety… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-iascYoHc4

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        • brooksby
          May 31, 2022 at 10:45 am
          0

          Clem Fandango wrote:

          Or turn it into a “cyle path” –  apparently no cyclist ever uses them. Ever.

          — Clem Fandango

          Is that like a bycle path?

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          • mark1a
            May 31, 2022 at 10:53 am
            0

            brooksby wrote:

            Or turn it into a “cyle path” –  apparently no cyclist ever uses them. Ever.

            — brooksby

            Is that like a bycle path?

            — Clem Fandango

            beat me to it!

          • Clem Fandango
            May 31, 2022 at 12:25 pm
            0

            They’re just for people

            They’re just for people called Cyle 🙂

             

          • chrisonabike
            May 31, 2022 at 2:41 pm
            0

            Jeremy Cyle?

            Jeremy Cyle?

    • zideriup
      May 31, 2022 at 11:09 am
      0

      Article wrote:

      When alerted to the signs, cyclists are rude and abusive

      — Article

      Maybe they’re just giving as good as they get?

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  2. Awavey
    May 31, 2022 at 8:22 am
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    I’m too busy drinking my chai
    I’m too busy drinking my chai latte and having avocado on toast for breakfast to worry about another self indulgent bad take on twitter. Ymmv

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    • Dnnnnnn
      May 31, 2022 at 8:59 am
      0

      If you were a genuine Middle

      If you were a genuine Middle Class Metropolitan Remoaning Liberal Elite Cyclist then you’d have written “YKMMV”.

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    • mark1a
      May 31, 2022 at 9:04 am
      0

      Haha – I nearly sprayed

      Haha – I nearly sprayed Ceylon green tea on my desk reading that!

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    • S13SFC
      May 31, 2022 at 9:23 am
      0

      Avo on a toasted bagel,

      Avo on a toasted bagel, sprinkled with Trader Joes “Everything but the Bagel” alongside a mug of single-source, organic Ethiopian coffee is in front of me as I type.

      I’m delighted to have made it to the very top and now play for The Metropolitan Liberal Elite having started in the lower leagues at Guttersnipe FC.

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      • chrisonabike
        May 31, 2022 at 9:42 am
        0

        Got as far as Rapha yet?

        Got as far as Rapha yet?

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  3. Steve K
    May 31, 2022 at 8:32 am
    0

    As far as I’m concerned,

    As far as I’m concerned, anything that gets people on bikes is a good thing, because then they remember how much fun it is to ride a bike, and may consider doing it more often.  Plus seeing London car free might encourage people to realise that if we stop car dominance, cities become much nicer places.

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  4. racyrich
    May 31, 2022 at 8:50 am
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    I thought only poor people

    I thought only poor people who couldn’t afford a car rode bikes.  Now it’s only the middle class.  I can’t keep up.

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    • Dnnnnnn
      May 31, 2022 at 9:09 am
      0

      racyrich wrote:

      I can’t keep up.

      — racyrich

      You need a >£5k bike.

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    • Steve K
      May 31, 2022 at 9:12 am
      0

      racyrich wrote:

      I thought only poor people who couldn’t afford a car rode bikes.  Now it’s only the middle class.  I can’t keep up.

      — racyrich

      Are you new here – didn’t you know:

      – Cyclists are holding up the traffic whilst riding too fast

      – Are in the middle of the road whilst cycling on the pavement

      etc etc

       

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      • eburtthebike
        May 31, 2022 at 10:53 am
        0

        Steve K wrote:

        Are you new here – didn’t you know:

        – Cyclists are holding up the traffic whilst riding too fast

        – Are in the middle of the road whilst cycling on the pavement

        etc etc

        — Steve K

        Like being middle class instead of the political cliche of a hard-working family.

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      • racyrich
        May 31, 2022 at 10:50 pm
        0

        I know. Shroedinger’s

        I know. Schrödinger’s cyclists.

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    • chrisonabike
      May 31, 2022 at 9:27 am
      0

      racyrich wrote:

      I thought only poor people who couldn’t afford a car rode bikes.  Now it’s only the middle class.  I can’t keep up.

      — racyrich

      Welcome comrade. Here in Socialist Britain – under the proletarian dictatorship of the Conservative Party and chairman Johnson – we are always alert to the bourgoisie on their bicycles and the Mensheviks going around sabotaging the oversized vehicles of the honest proletariat out of envy. It is likely these running-dogs of the international climate-conspiracy who are holding back the forward march of the people to reclaim the means of propulsion – the car – now powered by Ilyich electricity Russian gas and oil gas coming from the direction of Norway.

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  5. Smoggysteve
    May 31, 2022 at 9:00 am
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    This the last few weeks I

    This the last few weeks I have read about:

    Complaints the Govt have delayed ban on multi-buy deals of unhealthy food,

    Complaints by SUV owners that their tyres are being deflated by activists

    Compaints about Ride London

     

    This country is never ever going to move forward with its healthcare targets if all it cares about is cars and drivers. So much hypocracy is spouted by the media. Kids are too fat, The strain on the NHS from unhealthy living, Congestion in our cities, poor air quality and then when people try to live a better lifestlye and get out and exercise they are lambasted for it.

    Ride London might be a middle class lycrathon but its still a day of minimal car use and people doing something healthy. If you find that offensive then youre a total moron.

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  6. SimoninSpalding
    May 31, 2022 at 9:26 am
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    I don’t believe in the

    I don’t believe in the outdated notion of a class structure, but obviously an event like Ride London is going to be predominantly for people with a reasonably comfortable income and lifestyle. Households relying on food banks to feed their kids and not having money for the electricity bill will not be dropping £100 to enter, regardless of their levels of fitness etc.

    Equally, the route I am guessing stuck to the more leafy parts of Essex, I doubt the more industrial/ less affluent areas along the Thames featured too highly.

    I do agree that in my experience (several years ago now) the the Freecycle event was a joy to behold and a vision of how great central London could be if more effort was made for active travel.

    At the end of the day, Ride London does no real harm and the sums raised for charity by the participants should not be overlooked.

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    • chrisonabike
      May 31, 2022 at 9:48 am
      0

      If it’s proles you want there

      If it’s proles you want there’s always Critical Mass or maybe get joyful with the people on a Drum and Bass on a bike. And there must be at least one cycling club where Bradley Wiggins or Sean Kelly could feel at home?

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  7. Steve K
    May 31, 2022 at 9:40 am
    0

    Incidentally, why is the

    Incidentally, why is the article illustrated with a picture from the old Ride London route?

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    • AlsoSomniloquism
      May 31, 2022 at 12:54 pm
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      Already licensed to use it on

      Already licensed to use it on their site? New pics not available yet from photo agencies?

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  8. Hirsute
    May 31, 2022 at 10:08 am
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    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-60303323

    they “richly deserve to go to prison”, but there had been an “increased maturity” in the three men since the incident.”

    So that’s all right then.

    Of course they were also banned from driving for life

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    • AlsoSomniloquism
      May 31, 2022 at 12:53 pm
      0

      And people used to say women

      And people used to say women deliberately got pregnant so Judges don’t send them away, now it seems men can get women pregnant so they don’t get sent away. 

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  9. ktache
    May 31, 2022 at 10:47 am
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    That’s a fine custom cello

    That’s a fine custom cello rack.

    Better pics in the newspaper bit.

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  10. mark1a
    May 31, 2022 at 10:58 am
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    Ref cycling is middle class..

    Ref cycling is middle class…

    £7500 for a bike

    £2000 for a static trainer

    £500 for a bike computer

    £300 for a pair of shoes

    … and people still say they can’t see us coming.

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    • mdavidford
      May 31, 2022 at 12:32 pm
      0

      Ref cycling? Is that

      Ref cycling? Is that something to do with this?

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    • Llewelyn77
      May 31, 2022 at 3:39 pm
      0

      Racer bike at Halfords £350.
      Racer bike at Halfords £350. Not all of us want to show off or pose.

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      • ktache
        May 31, 2022 at 3:48 pm
        0

        I like your use of the term

        I like your use of the term “racer”, I know I still use it (occasionally)

        Though at that price point you might be better going for something 2nd hand. Before moving to Brum in 97 I managed to pick up a Marin palisades for £250, (£700 when new in 91) only finally mothballed just over a year ago, though ready, in an evening, to be ready to get out the door again.

        Yes you will have to start putting cash into it earlier, but it will be more worthwhile.

        Helps of course if you have some basic knowledge and already a few tools, or know someone who does.

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      • mark1a
        May 31, 2022 at 7:16 pm
        0

        Llewelyn77 wrote:

        Racer bike at Halfords £350. Not all of us want to show off or pose.

        — Llewelyn77

        I’m not showing off or posing, it’s a joke involving the price of bike stuff and some people’s lack of ability to see cyclists.

         

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  11. mdavidford
    May 31, 2022 at 12:34 pm
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    Quote:

    UK car ownership falls -0.2%

    So it’s gone up then?

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    • Dan Alexander
      May 31, 2022 at 2:05 pm
      0

      .

      .

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  12. DoomeFrog
    May 31, 2022 at 12:58 pm
    0

    ?

    ?

    https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/london-hammersmith-b1003300.html

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    • ktache
      May 31, 2022 at 1:02 pm
      0

      That’s a representation of a

      That’s a representation of a smallish car, should have gone for something range rovery, just to demonstrate the true pointlessness of it all.

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      • Hirsute
        May 31, 2022 at 1:05 pm
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        All cyclists are arrogant, so

        All cyclists are arrogant, so that’s halfway there !

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  13. chrisonabike
    May 31, 2022 at 1:15 pm
    0

    RE: tech of the week – will

    RE: tech of the week – will that disguise the fact that I’m on a bicycle and stop horses freaking out around me?  If so I’m in for a kickstarter.

    Also puts me in mind of this for some reason:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljPFZrRD3J8

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  14. chrisonabike
    May 31, 2022 at 1:16 pm
    0

    RE: Former vicar to cycle

    RE: Former vicar to cycle from Cumbria to Rome…carrying a cello

    Hopefully he’s paid attention to balancing the bike and doesn’t have the experience I had when carrying a christmas tree once.

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    • iandusud
      May 31, 2022 at 4:32 pm
      0

      chrisonatrike wrote:

      RE: Former vicar to cycle from Cumbria to Rome…carrying a cello

      Hopefully he’s paid attention to balancing the bike and doesn’t have the experience I had when carrying a christmas tree once.

      — chrisonatrike

      I regularly carry a guitar and a violin but I use our cargo bike. If I were doing what he’s doing I would definitely be using a trailer! That doesn’t look safe to me. A cello in a hard case like that is not light. 

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      • chrisonabike
        May 31, 2022 at 4:50 pm
        0

        A violin case would

        A violin case would presumably be at least 6kg (with tommy gun) so goodness knows what a cello case and its contents weigh.

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      • Rendel Harris
        May 31, 2022 at 5:20 pm
        0

        iandusud wrote:

        That doesn’t look safe to me. A cello in a hard case like that is not light. 

        — iandusud

        A cello only weighs about 3.5kg and a good case maybe 5kg, so he’s only carrying the weight equivalent of a 24-can slab of beer; looks like he’s got a customised rack as well so the weight should be well balanced. I imagine the biggest danger would be cars nudging him from behind, so hopefully he’s got a flag and/or light on it to keep them back.

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        • chrisonabike
          May 31, 2022 at 5:34 pm
          0

          My main concern would be

          My main concern would be securing it – looks like a massive fiddle.

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          • mark1a
            May 31, 2022 at 5:51 pm
            0

            chrisonatrike wrote:

            My main concern would be securing it – looks like a massive fiddle.

            — chrisonatrike

            What a bass-less comment.

          • mdavidford
            June 1, 2022 at 6:41 am
            0

            mark1a wrote:

            My main concern would be securing it – looks like a massive fiddle.

            — mark1a

            What a bass-less comment.

            — chrisonatrike

            No need to be viol about it.

          • Rendel Harris
            May 31, 2022 at 6:55 pm
            0

            chrisonatrike wrote:

            My main concern would be securing it – looks like a massive fiddle.

            — chrisonatrike

            If you think something looks like a massive fiddle, you should always check whether there are strings attached. Still, he can cross that bridge when he comes to it before bowing to the inevitable. No need to fret. May need to wind his neck in a bit though…

          • Sriracha
            May 31, 2022 at 7:01 pm
            0

            I think you’ve struck a chord
            I think you’ve struck a chord there.

          • Rendel Harris
            May 31, 2022 at 7:08 pm
            0

            Sriracha wrote:

            I think you’ve struck a chord there.

            — Sriracha

            Can I say I plucked it out of thin air? Or would that be taking the pizzicato?

  15. Patrick9-32
    May 31, 2022 at 2:06 pm
    0

    On ride london: Does

    On ride london: Does everything in cycling have to be about advancing active travel? Can people not just get together and do something incredibly fun? When I did ride london it was on a tandem with a friend who was recovering from major surgery (who is now, annoyingly, much fitter than me) and we were part of a hugely diverse group of people riding the event for all kinds of reasons. Cycling for leisure and utility cycling are pretty different activities and that isn’t necesarily a bad thing. 

    I am going to do a marathon in a month’s time, am I supposed to ensure I do it in such a way that people feel encouraged to walk to the shops?

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  16. AlsoSomniloquism
    May 31, 2022 at 9:39 pm
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    Re: The excellent CFC

    Re: The excellent CFC achievement. But I suppose Jon Burke must be right as they are middle class and having a meeting around a conference table for 1000 odd miles. 

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ROOTminus1 5 minutes ago

I suspect some liberal number-wanging from TNT on this one.

in: TNT Sports hails “record” Tour de France audience in the UK – but can first paywalled Tour be viewed a success?
whosatthewheel 9 minutes ago

@mctrials23 I mean, I am astonished how you bring priorities into this as the cyclist was entirely within the left hand side lane therefore never needed to give priority to the wankpanzer.

in: Police say “Operation SNAP has become so successful” as they continue not to investigate close passes without being able to measure passing distances
mitsky 12 minutes ago

"... following “a concerning pattern of serious and life-changing injuries” caused by the vehicles." ... Seriously... "... caused by the vehicles." Come on @Ryan Mallon Do better.

in: “Nanny state” hi-vis and helmet laws will discourage active travel, campaigners warn as Irish government signs off on new e-scooter rules amid claims illegal e-bikes causing “havoc”
Rendel Harris 21 minutes ago

Yes, C5 leases a highlights package from TNT, they will also be showing Giro and Vuelta highlights and live coverage of the UK Grand Depart next year. It was more or less an afterthought, I assume to try and deflect some of the criticism TNT got for more than quadrupling the cost of watching the race live. A pretty good deal for TNT I would've thought, a bit of extra money to offset whatever they paid for the rights (still a secret, I believe), unlikely to deter any keen fans from paying for flag-to-flag coverage and presumably they hope it could act as a shop window to pull in more viewers to the paid option having had their appetites whetted.

in: TNT Sports hails “record” Tour de France audience in the UK – but can first paywalled Tour be viewed a success?
Andrewbanshee 28 minutes ago

I haven't watched Le Tour at all this year and have mainly been watching rugby instead. I wonder where these 'record' numbers come from?

in: TNT Sports hails “record” Tour de France audience in the UK – but can first paywalled Tour be viewed a success?
Rendel Harris 41 minutes ago

@the little onion Just for the sake of accuracy, Alliston wasn't convicted of manslaughter, he was charged with it but convicted of "wanton and furious cycling" for not having two brakes. I agree that he was a complete prat and also that if he'd been driving a car there's no way he would have been charged, driving below the speed limit through a green light in your favour when a pedestrian steps out straight in front of you from a few yards away, I have never heard of a driver being convicted for such an incident.

in: Police say “not appropriate” to release close pass footage captured by cyclist fined £1,200 in viral clip
kinderje 44 minutes ago

@Rendel Harris Thanks. So does this explain the pared back Channel 5 coverage that uses TNT commentary and also only has one presenter - a way of reducing cost of producing the show (which I quite like)?

in: TNT Sports hails “record” Tour de France audience in the UK – but can first paywalled Tour be viewed a success?
Rendel Harris 52 minutes ago

@kinderje As I understand it they didn't put in a bid as they were told by ASO what TNT had said they were prepared to pay and it was way above what ITV could afford or make a profit on. So they didn't formally lose it as in were outbid, but it amounted to the same thing.

in: TNT Sports hails “record” Tour de France audience in the UK – but can first paywalled Tour be viewed a success?
Pub bike 1 hour ago

A couple of days ago I experienced a very clear cut case where I was riding in a narrow section of side road between parked cars and a car turned into the side road straddling the white line at the junction and entered the narrow section I was already in not leaving me any room to pass. I was forced to stop and yet the driver took umbrage. I'm sure most readers on here have experienced this situation many times if not experienced it as a daily occurrence and had to take evasive action in order to avoid collisions. I reported the incident to the police with very clear video evidence. It is a clear breach of Highway Code rules 213 and 183. In light of the WYP prosecution one would expect that the police should also prosecute my case quite vigorously as this case was much more serious. However I don't expect they will take this up so this will be an interesting if predictable test.

in: Police say “not appropriate” to release close pass footage captured by cyclist fined £1,200 in viral clip
kinderje 1 hour ago

You say that ITV 'lost' the broadcasting rights, I thought ITV declined to put a bid in as they were looking to cut costs.

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