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Albert Philipsen at the 2023 UCI junior men’s road world championship, Glasgow
SWpix (Image Credit: Pauline Ballet/SWpix.com; inset: Rory Sutherland, credit: Wikimedia Commons)

“Not just extreme, but poor coaching”: 18-year-old pro does “crazy” 100km “recovery ride” immediately after 157km race — but is ex-pro right to criticise team?; Safety concerns over Rwanda world championships; Pidcock wins again + more on the live blog

We’ve made it! Adwitiya’s seeing off January with one last live blog filled with all the latest cycling news, reaction and the usual nonsense
  • by Adwitiya Pal
Fri, Jan 31, 2025 09:42
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  • Leave it to the French to make the most quirky cycling road signs
  • “Grumpy old woman” makes New Year resolution to be less grumpy towards cyclists wearing dark clothes and those who think “red lights don’t apply to them”… alongside drivers parking on double yellow lines and dog owners
  • £1,000 fine and 12-month ban for DPD delivery driver who left cyclist with broken neck after cutting across cycle lane
  • Bike shed for Danny MacAskill? “Cyclists dismount” sign ahead of ‘Cycle Hub’ located down a flight of stairs
  • Tom Pidcock’s done it again! 9km solo attack helps British rider claim second victory with new team Q36.5 at queen stage of the AlUla Tour
  • Cycling fans report Warner Bros. Discovery to market regulator for “abuse of monopoly” and “price gouging” after moving cycling behind £30.99-a-month paywall, as Tory MP slams “terrible decision”
  • “These pro cyclists are crazy”: 18-year-old rider does 100km “recovery ride” immediately after 157km race ridden at 48km/hr
  • Great Britain edges Italy and France to win mixed relay at cyclocross world championships
  • No relocation of 2025 road world championships to Switzerland planned, but UCI “closely monitoring” Rwanda-DR Congo situation, as Belgium Cycling Federation raises concerns for riders and staff security
  • Do you really have to pay £30.99 every month to watch cycling? Find out how to watch cycling for less now it's moving to TNT Sports
  • Cyclist who flew over handlebars and “nearly broke neck” after uninsured SUV driver pulled out confronts motorist at home demanding $13,000 – but pensioner says “there’s no way I’m bloody paying that”
  • “Not just extreme, but poor coaching”: 18-year-old pro takes on “crazy” 100km “recovery ride” immediately after 157km race — but is ex-pro right to criticise team?
Albert Philipsen at the 2023 UCI junior men’s road world championship, Glasgow
SWpix (Image Credit: Pauline Ballet/SWpix.com; inset: Rory Sutherland, credit: Wikimedia Commons)
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31 January 2025, 09:42
French road signs
French road signs (Image Credit: @SteveFlemingM9 on Twitter)

Leave it to the French to make the most quirky cycling road signs

Credit for these goes to Steve Fleming, who shared images of these très bizarre and très amusante road signage for cyclists from France, including a wicked speed bump for a poor cyclist who just wants to have a chill ride, an interesting mix of cyclists, pedestrians and horse riders indicating a shared ‘greenway’, and finally, a road cyclist with a helmet making their way down a serpentine descent that looks a bit too much like the Ventoux…

French road sign 1 (@SteveFlemingM9 on Twitter)
French road sign 1 (@SteveFlemingM9 on Twitter) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
French road sign 1 (@SteveFlemingM9 on Twitter)
French road sign 1 (@SteveFlemingM9 on Twitter) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
(Credit: @SteveFlemingM9 on Twitter)
31 January 2025, 09:42
Cyclists stopped at red light in London
Cyclists stopped at red light in London (Image Credit: Simon MacMichael)

“Grumpy old woman” makes New Year resolution to be less grumpy towards cyclists wearing dark clothes and those who think “red lights don’t apply to them”… alongside drivers parking on double yellow lines and dog owners

It’s delayed by some 31 days but we finally have a “well-intentioned” New Year resolution from a local who’s decided it’s time to stop being “grumpy” at drivers, dog owners… and of course, cyclists.

“This grumpy old woman plans to be less grumpy in 2025. Is this possible?” asks Jane France, in a column published in the Eastern Daily Press.

Her first object of ire is drivers who park on double yellow lines. “Even traffic wardens do not seem to deter them,” she says. “Cars [sic] also park on the verges in front of houses churning up the grass and on some occasions completely blocking resident’s access to and from their property.”

The next naughty bunch on her list is, you guessed it, cyclists. “Another thing that makes me grumpy is the behaviour of some cyclists who often put their safety and that of others at risk.

“Some cyclists wear dark clothing with hoods up and no lights on their bicycle – not even a reflector. Recently I saw a cyclist who only became apparent due to his white socks – that was a real trigger to my grumpiness.

“It amazes me that many cyclists do not appear to think that a red traffic light applies to them. Today I gave way to a cyclist who, in freezing conditions, came down the road wearing headphones and with his hands in his pockets — at least he wasn’t texting.”

Next up is dog owners. “It’s amazing just how many people do take their dogs in – Is my grumpiness because they’re ignoring the signs, or a little bit of jealousy that they don’t appear to care?

“I could go on forever – litter, wheelie bins left on pavements, and e-scooters with their silent motors.”

She ends by saying: “The WI has a long history of campaigning so perhaps instead of being grumpy I should put my energy into positivity and see whether a resolution leading to a campaign for possibly safer conditions for delivery e-bikes, whose riders are required to deliver at speed and do not always have reliable safe bikes that meet legal requirements. Just a thought.”

That would be a good thought, indeed.

31 January 2025, 09:42

£1,000 fine and 12-month ban for DPD delivery driver who left cyclist with broken neck after cutting across cycle lane

Tadcaster Road, York (Google Maps)
Tadcaster Road, York (Google Maps) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Tadcaster Road, York (Google Maps)
Tadcaster Road, York (Google Maps) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

> £1,000 fine and 12-month ban for DPD delivery driver who left cyclist with broken neck after cutting across cycle lane

31 January 2025, 09:42

Bike shed for Danny MacAskill? “Cyclists dismount” sign ahead of ‘Cycle Hub’ located down a flight of stairs

Welcome to the one of most ironic cycling facilities we have seen here at road.cc: The ‘Cycle Hub’ at Sheffield Hallam University’s campus, designed exclusively for those with the skills of Danny MacAskill, or maybe those looking for an upper-body workout (but then, which cyclist doesn’t?).

Rather conveniently located at the bottom of a staircase, cyclists are first greeted with the ultimate paradox, a sign saying “Cyclists please dismount before entering the hub” — a polite reminder that unless you’re bunny-hopping your way down like the Scottish trials rider, you’ll be lugging your bike like it’s an awkwardly shaped suitcase. Nothing says ‘bike-friendly’ like carrying your bike down a flight of stairs, does it?

This wonderful piece of infrastructure was brought to our attention by road.cc reader Andy Nichols, who said: “I’m not sure if it’s quite on a par with some of your other content but this made me laugh when I had to use a different bike shed at work to usual.”

Oh believe me, it is on par with some of our other content…

31 January 2025, 09:42
Tom Pidcock, Q36.5 training camp
Tom Pidcock, Q36 (Image Credit: Georg Lindacher)

Tom Pidcock’s done it again! 9km solo attack helps British rider claim second victory with new team Q36.5 at queen stage of the AlUla Tour

Poor management, missed opportunities, burned bridges, call it what you want — but Tom Pidcock has wasted no time settling into his new team Q36.5 Pro Cycling after the uncomfortable exit from Ineos Grenadiers, with the 25-year-old rider claiming a second victory at the AlUla Tour and gaining a comfortable lead in the general classification.

A 9km attack saw Pidcock fly solo across the Skyviews of Harrat Uwayrid, the queen stage of the five-day tour with riders climbing the volcanic mountain. And just like in the second stage, in which he claimed victory for the first time in Q36.5 colours, there was basically no competition for the double Olympic champion.

🌟 Tom Pidcock does it again! 🌟

The @Q36_5ProCycling rider soloes to a SECOND stage at the 2025 AlUla Tour and extends his lead in the GC 🙌 pic.twitter.com/fKcF6PsF13

— Eurosport (@eurosport) January 31, 2025

> Boom! Tom Pidcock starts life at Q36.5 with a bang by blowing away rivals with vicious attack to win abridged hilltop finish stage at AlUla Tour – and celebrates by pointing to his new sponsor

Pidcock said after the finish: “On a climb that steep I went to the bottom to set my own pace. Offence is the best form of defence, sometimes. When I came to this race, they said it’s normally a tailwind up here, but it was a headwind. It was a long eight kilometres. There were four guys behind me, and I don’t know how well they were working but I was on my own. It was a long way, but I am happy. I extended my lead, and this gives us a buffer going into tomorrow. I did a lot of training that helps me do these efforts. This week I set a new 5–10-minute power record so I am definitely in good shape.”

“I looked at tomorrow’s stage and I think it will be windy so it will be a stressful day to hold this jersey. It’s definitely not over but I think I couldn’t have done much more up till now.”

With this win, Pidcock is in a comfortable lead in the general classification, with Bahrain Victorious’ Rainer Kepplinger 29 seconds behind him, he should have his first stage race GC victory in the bag with his new team, barring any terrible misfortune.

31 January 2025, 09:42

Cycling fans report Warner Bros. Discovery to market regulator for “abuse of monopoly” and “price gouging” after moving cycling behind £30.99-a-month paywall, as Tory MP slams “terrible decision”

Romain Bardet, 2024 Tour de France
Romain Bardet, 2024 Tour de France (Image Credit: Zac Williams/SWpix.com)
Romain Bardet, 2024 Tour de France
Romain Bardet, 2024 Tour de France (Image Credit: Zac Williams/SWpix.com)

> Cycling fans report Warner Bros. Discovery to market regulator for “abuse of monopoly” and “price gouging” after moving cycling behind £30.99-a-month paywall, as Tory MP slams “terrible decision”

31 January 2025, 09:42

“These pro cyclists are crazy”: 18-year-old rider does 100km “recovery ride” immediately after 157km race ridden at 48km/hr

Here’s a cheerful start to your Friday with a humble reminder of how good the pros are — a realisation made even more shocking when you find that the rider is just 18 years old.

Fresh off the back of winning the young rider jersey at the Tour Down Under in his first-ever pro race, Lidl-Trek’s Albert Philipsen continued his racing season in Australia with the Surf Coast Classic, a UCI 1.1 one-day race.

Albert Philipsen at the 2023 UCI Cycling World Championships, Men's Junior Road Race, Glasgow (Pauline Ballet/SWpix.com).JPG
SWpix.com) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Albert Philipsen at the 2023 UCI Cycling World Championships, Men's Junior Road Race, Glasgow (Pauline Ballet/SWpix.com).JPG
SWpix.com) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Albert Philipsen at the 2023 UCI Cycling World Championships, Men’s Junior Road Race, Glasgow (Pauline Ballet/SWpix.com)

Although the multidisciplinary Danish rider came home in 44th position in the race, which ended in a bunch sprint finish won by Tobias Lund Andresen—another young Dane from Team Picnic PostNL—Philipsen has managed to draw attention to his post-race escapades thanks to his Strava upload, which showed that he added almost 100 kilometres to the race.

The coolest thing? He labelled the update on Strava as “Recovery ride”.

Actually, what’s even cooler is that despite the race being ridden at almost 48km/hr from Lorne to Torquay, Philipsen’s 252km-long ride ended with an average speed of 41.8km/hr (he hit a top speed of 94.2km/hr), lasting just over six hours with almost 3,000 metres of climbing.

 

The 2023 junior world champion also claimed the King of Mountain badge on the  Lorne-Benwerrin Climb, riding the 25km segment with over 400 metres of climbing in 17:50, beating Michal Kwiatkowski’s record by one second.

So to sum up his last few weeks: He turned pro with Lidl-Trek, skipped the U23 classifications, made his debut in the Tour Down Under, and then went on to prove his GC credentials by winning the youth classification and securing a top 20 overall finish. And now, he’s showing off in front of us amateurs by casually doing a 100km recovery ride and setting several personal bests along the way.

Alright then, I’ll note him down in my diary as one for the future, or maybe the present.

31 January 2025, 09:42

Great Britain edges Italy and France to win mixed relay at cyclocross world championships

The six-rider team of of Zoe Bäckstedt, Thomas Mein, Oscar Amey, Cat Ferguson, Zoe Roche, and Milo Wills kicked off the UCI cyclocross world championships in Liévin, France with a gold medal in the mixed relay race.

The team, spearheaded by Thomas Mein, who came back from third place on the final lap, finished ahead of Italy by just two seconds, while the French team finished a further three seconds behind to claim the bronze medal.

 
 
 
 
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Last week, British Cycling had come under fire for not selecting any riders in the elite women’s and men’s U23 categories, including recently crowned women’s national champion Xan Crees for the cyclocross world championships, with fans and ex-riders dishing out scathing criticism of the governing body, calling the decision as “short-sighted”, “disgraceful”, and “sexist”.

31 January 2025, 09:42

No relocation of 2025 road world championships to Switzerland planned, but UCI “closely monitoring” Rwanda-DR Congo situation, as Belgium Cycling Federation raises concerns for riders and staff security

With the violent situation in Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo exacerbated by the advancing M23 rebel group reportedly backed by Rwanda, the UCI has come forward today and released a statement saying that it is “closely monitoring” the developments ahead of the road world championships, scheduled to take place in Kigali, Rwanda in September 2025.

“The Union Cycliste Internationale (UCI), in close collaboration with the Local Organising Committee (LOC) of the 2025 UCI Road World Championships, is closely monitoring developments in the eastern region of the Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC) and their potential impact on the organisation of the UCI Road World Championships scheduled for next September in Kigali, Rwanda,” the governing body of pro cycling said.

“The ongoing conflict is confined to the DRC, and Rwanda remains entirely safe for tourism and business.

“We hope for a swift and peaceful resolution of the situation. The UCI wishes to emphasise that sport, and cycling in particular, are powerful ambassadors for peace, friendship, and solidarity.

“Moreover, following the spread of rumours on this subject, the UCI clarifies that no relocation of the 2025 UCI Road World Championships from Rwanda to Switzerland or any other location is planned at this time.”

2025 UCI Road World Championships Rwanda presentation at Zürich (Simon Wilkinson/SWpix.com)
SWpix (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
2025 UCI Road World Championships Rwanda presentation at Zürich (Simon Wilkinson/SWpix.com)
SWpix (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
2025 UCI Road World Championships Rwanda presentation at Zürich (Simon Wilkinson/SWpix.com)

Kigali, the capital of Rwanda, which is set to host the world championships, is located 150km from the Goma border. The BBC has reported that the Rwandan government has deployed troops to the Goma frontier area as a security measure.

Meanwhile, a spokesperson from the Belgian Cycling Federation confirmed to  Dernière Heure that they have delayed their reconnaissance programme and raised concerns for the safety of riders and support staff.

Nathalie Clauwaert from the BCF said: “We have lots of questions, and we’re not the only ones.”

“There were already lots of doubt about the quality of the accommodation there. But right now, our concerns are of a very different nature.”

“The most important thing is to be able to be certain of our riders’ security and all the support staff.”

Doubts have also been cast over the upcoming Tour of Rwanda at the end of next month, with the route taking the peloton very close to Goma at the Rwanda-DR Congo border. The Belgian media has also suggested that Martigny, Switzerland could emerge as a ‘Plan B’ should the event at Kigali fail to go through.

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Cyclist who flew over handlebars and “nearly broke neck” after uninsured SUV driver pulled out confronts motorist at home demanding $13,000 – but pensioner says “there’s no way I’m bloody paying that”

Cyclist flies over handlebars and “nearly breaks neck” after uninsured SUV driver pulls out in Auckland New Zealand (YouTube)
Cyclist flies over handlebars and “nearly breaks neck” after uninsured SUV driver pulls out in Auckland New Zealand (YouTube) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Cyclist flies over handlebars and “nearly breaks neck” after uninsured SUV driver pulls out in Auckland New Zealand (YouTube)
Cyclist flies over handlebars and “nearly breaks neck” after uninsured SUV driver pulls out in Auckland New Zealand (YouTube) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

> Cyclist who flew over handlebars and “nearly broke neck” after uninsured SUV driver pulled out confronts motorist at home demanding $13,000 – but pensioner says “there’s no way I’m bloody paying that”

31 January 2025, 09:42

“Not just extreme, but poor coaching”: 18-year-old pro takes on “crazy” 100km “recovery ride” immediately after 157km race — but is ex-pro right to criticise team?

Albert Philipsen, the 18-year-old Danish rider who within one month of turning pro has already won the youth classification at the Tour Down Under, might have shocked fans with his “crazy” 100km “recovery ride” after the 157km, however, there’s one person who isn’t very impressed, and it’s none other than former Aussie pro Rory Sutherland.

> “These pro cyclists are crazy”: 18-year-old rider’s 100km “recovery ride” immediately after 157km race ridden at 48km/hr

Commenting under a post on social media, Sutherland expressed his doubts over such a long and hard recovery ride, in which Philipsen continued to set personal bests and ended the six-hour total ride with an average speed of 41.8km/hr.

“As an 18-year-old with hopefully a minimum of 12-15 years ahead of him this is (again in my opinion) not just extreme, but poor coaching and thinking long-term about an athlete’s health,” the former Movistar and UAE Team Emirates rider said.

When one person pointed out that Philipsen has dipped his feet in all kinds of discipline — MTB, cyclocross and road — and just loves to be on the bike, as well as adding that “things have changed a lot now” and “Mathieu van der Poel is doing 200km+ training rides every day at the moment”, Sutherland replied: “I certainly don’t disagree that things have changed… We all have our opinions, I think it’s too much personally. I think whether you love to ride your bike or not shouldn’t come into it, all professionals love to ride their bikes. MvdP [Van der Poel] isn’t 18.”

Nick Owen, Paralympic manager and coach at the Australian Cycling Team also agreed with Sutherland, adding: “This obsession with juniors racing and training as senior riders is going to cause many issues for many rides in my opinion.”

Albert Philipsen, 2023 UEC Road European Championships (Alex Whitehead/SWpix.com)
SWpix (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Albert Philipsen, 2023 UEC Road European Championships (Alex Whitehead/SWpix.com)
SWpix (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

But besides Sutherland and Owen, most seem rather impressed with the Strava post, commenting that “he’s one to watch” and even heralding him as the “next Van der Poel”. Either way, the young Dane has found himself in the middle of some interesting discussions today.

Do you think Sutherland is right in criticising Philipsen and his team for allowing him to do the monster recovery ride or do you think there’s no harm in doing an extra 100 kilometres after a race, as long as the rider wants to do it?

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  1. brooksby
    January 31, 2025 at 10:48 am
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     … 

     … laugh

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  2. Clem Fandango
    January 31, 2025 at 11:46 am
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    love that first sign – “Table

    love that first sign – “Table Jump Ahead – woo-hoo!”

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    • chrisonabike
      January 31, 2025 at 11:52 am
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      The French have such élan –

      The French have such élan – throwing a bunny-hop coming back from the boulangerie on your town bike with the petit-déjeuner!

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      • Clem Fandango
        January 31, 2025 at 12:27 pm
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        The culture warriors would

        The culture warriors would insist you can achieve similar results in Croydon – French elan nothing – what abaht British values! 

        Only it would involve a (hacked) Lime Bike & a take away Nando’s. 

         

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    • Kendalred
      January 31, 2025 at 12:25 pm
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      It looks like they’ve hit the

      It looks like they’ve hit the speedbump so fast, that in the next photo they’ve flown right over the heads of the horserider and pedestrian. Impressive.

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      • SimoninSpalding
        January 31, 2025 at 2:24 pm
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        But they’ve lost the basket,

        But they’ve lost the basket, and presumably the croissants with it!

        Just have to settle for a Ricard and a Gauloise for breakfast again…

        Please note: this is intended as affectionate mockery of an outdated national stereotype, and and in no way is intended to be racist OR constitute health and nutrition advice

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        • Clem Fandango
          January 31, 2025 at 2:30 pm
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          I”d be tempted to graffiti

          I”d be tempted to graffiti ET into the basket too

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  3. Coolkitty
    January 31, 2025 at 12:00 pm
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    Social pressure is not a new
    Social pressure is not a new thing.
    Sad

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  4. redimp
    January 31, 2025 at 1:07 pm
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    I prefer the gumpy woman to

    I prefer the gumpy woman to most moaners as at least she said “some cyclists” and not all

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  5. mdavidford
    January 31, 2025 at 3:27 pm
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    road.cc wrote:

    Albert Philipsen continued his racing season in Australia with the Surf Coast Classic, a UCI 1.1 one-day stage race.

    — road.cc

    Does that mean he had to come back and do a time trial after his 100km of recovery?

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  6. ktache
    January 31, 2025 at 8:09 pm
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    How dare anyone claim that

    How dare anyone claim that Rwanda is not perfectly safe, we have a law, passed by both houses of parliament, both democratic and appointed/somewhat hereditary and quite ridiculously religiously there, that it is safe and must remain safe until that law is changed or rescinded.

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kingleo 37 minutes ago

@Rendel Harris, if a pedestrian puts a foot on the crossing, the cyclists have to stop. Is that correct?

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mjc2669 39 minutes ago

Agreed.. I thought we would get an article looking at the benefits Vs safety risks of the sub £500 Chinese carbon wheels.. at £1200 we are in the branded bracket. I've got a set of prime branded 50mm wheels from Wiggle that cost £200 (RRP £500 I think) in the wiggle closing down sale.. they have been faultless. I've no doubt some of the cheaper Chinese wheels would be just as good. I need a set for my gravel / winter bike.. it's just the service/spares issue making me think twice about some unbranded hoops. Will probably go with whatever Luke from Trace Vello recommends / has tested at the time.

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JL77 3 hours ago

@Smoggysteve While I follow that not all parts are equal, there are also lots of really good Chinese wheelsets, some of them using hubs from well known brands, and being much cheaper at the same time. (And there are also good Chinese and Taiwanese hubs out there.) Personally, I think "Where is that extra money going? its the hubs." is the wrong conclusion. Wheelsets with similar components can still have a huge price difference. And manufacturers buy components against OEM prices, usually with an extra discount when they buy in bulk . Well, then, where does the extra money go? Many extra costs are possible: the profit of the contracted factory that makes the rims or even the entire wheels; potentially higher production standards and better QA; profits for shops and middle-men; extra logistics; marketing/PR/sponsoring; extra R&D; covering for warranty cases and customer service; a boatful of middle-managers; extra profits for shareholders...

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wtjs 4 hours ago

@Smoggysteve So its down to hub qualilty mostly, imo... Agreed, and we have Hope and KoM. I've been very pleased with my Hope Pro 5, but I've only had them for 9 months. I'm staying with them on my Fairlight Secan because I'm convinced spares will remain available.

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mdavidford 4 hours ago

Don't look at me, but I hear a certain Mr Pogačar can put you in touch with a decent agent.

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Backladder 5 hours ago

@Mr Blackbird Mine is registered to the mayor of London!

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Mr Blackbird 5 hours ago

I've got a couple of cloned tabards in the cupboard ready for the day they become law.

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Smoggysteve 6 hours ago

@Global Nomad "I''m still disappointed by some of the comments. I wonder if products from the US of Trump will get the same doubts, and perhaps we’ll soon be wondering about Germany too" Here is my take. There are lots of chinese wheels available nowadays, to the point its becoming over saturated with choice. And there are a lot of wheelsets that look a bargain and it would , on the face of it, appear so. But, I mention hubs as being an area that never spoken about, I almost think deliberately so. I will use this brand as an example only because they are one with a good reputation. - Roval CLX III retails price £2998 per set. Roval CL III retail price £1008 (prices from Specialzed website) Now the differences between the CLX and the CL? Spokes and hubs. That is it. The CLX have carbon composite spokes and proprietry hubs and the CL have steel round spokes with DT Swiss 350 hubs. Now the spokes will not be cheap but they aint costing 2 grand more. Where is that extra money going? its the hubs. The rims are identical. Same as they were on the CLX II & CL II . So if one brand can have a 2 grand difference in its wheelsets from the premium to the 'affordable' where do you think the Chinese brands are making their big savings? And when they are not branded and generic hubs you could pick up off Aliexpress its no wonder. So its down to hub quailty mostly, imo, and we have been told for years if not decades, a set of rims laced to top quality hubs - possibly handmade- will provide the best performance. Or was this all a lie?

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Rendel Harris 6 hours ago

@kingleo Not to condone not stopping, as I always stop, but no vehicle driver/rider actually has to stop if pedestrians are waiting to cross, it's a "should" not a "must" in the Highway Code and not stopping is not an offence. If pedestrians are on the crossing then it becomes a "must" and it is an offence not to do so. It's a confusing distinction and in my opinion could well be done away with to make it compulsory to stop in both instances, but at the moment it's not. (HC Rule 19, zebra crossings: "Drivers and riders should give way to pedestrians waiting to cross and MUST give way to pedestrians on a zebra crossing.")

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yiipeeia 6 hours ago

I hope the third rider recovers ok. But they will always remember that day. I think the motor cycle and car driving tests Should include a practical test that lorry drivers do to (SUD) appreciate how vulnerable you are as a cyclist. Put everyone on a cycle stationary with your food on the kerb and have a vehicle drive past them at various speeds 20/30/60mph at 1.5 meters from the handlebars.

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