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Cycle lane + hi-vis = Driver ploughing into cyclist on roundabout (+ more social media victim blaming); Cyclists praise Deputy Lord Mayor for parking bike in ‘car’ space – but critics slam “wasted space”; Highway Code on GB News + more on the live blog

It’s the 108th Tuesday of January (and thankfully, the last), and Ryan Mallon is back with more cycling news and views on the live blog


30 January 2024, 09:06
Cyclist struck by motorist on roundabout (Credit Warwickshire Cyclist, Twitter)
Cycle lane + hi-vis = Driver ploughing into cyclist on roundabout (and motorists blaming the cyclist on social media)

Here at the HQ, by now you would think we’d be used to the extreme lengths motorists on social media will go to defend their fellow drivers and pin the blame for any and all road collisions on cyclists.

Last month on the live blog we covered the head scratching reaction to footage released by West Midlands Police, which showed the moment a 71-year-old cyclist was left with a bleed on the brain, a broken shoulder, and a broken ankle after a driver ignored give way markings and ploughed on into her.

Despite the motorist being jailed for 12 months after pleading guilty to causing serious injury by careless driving, anti-cycling Twitter on the other hand was convinced that it was the cyclist who was “irresponsible” and “shouldn’t have been going that fast”, and that they were “probably breaking the speed limit but clearly not proceeding towards a major crossing with caution”.

Coventry crash May 2023 (via West Midlands Police)

>  “I love it when drivers harass me for breaking rules they made up in their head”: Motorist tells cyclist he’ll “get a ticket for being in the bus lane”… while driving an untaxed car

Last February, drivers on social media reacted to the infamous crash on a Sheffield roundabout which left broadcaster and bike helmet advocate Dan Walker feeling “glad to be alive” by accusing the Channel 5 presenter of “putting himself in danger” by “ignoring” a nearby cycle lane – described by local cyclists as “filled with broken glass”.

And over the past weekend, a clip of a Belfast driver pulling across three lanes of rush hour traffic, hitting a cyclist in the process, even led some buck eejits on social media to boldly pronounce that the female commuter had deliberately pulled into the path of the motorist to cause the crash. As you do.

> “Looks like the cyclist deliberately made contact with the car”: Driver pulls across three lanes and hits cyclist – and motorists claim cyclist was at fault

So, it’s safe to say that it takes a lot to shock us when it comes to the ever-expanding genre of anti-cycling, pro-terrible driving social media excuses.

But the baffling response to this latest clip – posted yesterday by the Warwickshire Cyclist account – even managed to raise a few eyebrows in the offices.

For a start, let’s check to see if the cyclist was abiding by the holy ‘Fuming Motorist’s Arbitrary Code of Conduct for People on Bikes’.

Were they wearing hi-vis? Yes, indeed. A helmet? Check. Riding in the cycle lane? Yep.

But despite the cyclist abiding by these fundamental road safety commandments (at least in the eyes of victim blamers and more than a few police forces), the oblivious motorist still managed to pull out onto the roundabout and clip them.

> Near Miss of the Day 838: "Tell me again about hi-vis and lights!" — Cyclist narrowly avoids collision at mini roundabout

And the response on the social media platform formerly known as Twitter? Just as you’d expect, of course.

“Cyclists fault he should of been peddling faster,” said the grammatically-challenged Danny, whose understanding of road safety is right up there with his spelling and punctuation (what, too harsh?).

“I’m a cyclist... but he’s at fault here,” added FSD Bera Test Pilot, helpfully fulfilling our quota of ‘I’m a cyclist but…’ comments.

“Why was Paul the Peddler in the middle of a road for cars?” asked Andrew, failing to notice the red bike lane on the roundabout.

“Terrible cycling,” wrote Jean. “Never hug the edge in a roundabout. I believe the cyclist was in the driver’s blind spot. He didn’t yield properly, but it doesn’t help the cyclist...”

“He was riding in the red marked Cycle Lane FFS,” replied an understandably exasperated Warwickshire Cyclist, who later posted their own recommended alternative to hi-vis clothing, which they reckon would easily grab a careless driver’s attention:

I’ll just leave that there…

30 January 2024, 09:59
Deputy Lord Mayor of Cork parks bike in car space (Dan Boyle, Twitter)
“Symbol of road space wasted by cyclists” or a demonstration of “how much space a commuter actually needs”? Cyclists praise Deputy Lord Mayor for parking bike in designated ‘car’ space – but critics say it’s “celebrating wasted space”

So, what happens when you’re a cyclist, who rides their bike into work every day, and suddenly – just because you’re now the city’s Deputy Lord Mayor – the powers that be decide to bestow upon you a somewhat unnecessarily large parking space?

You just park your bike in it, don’t you?

Well, that’s exactly what Colette Finn, a Green Party councillor and the current Deputy Lord Mayor of Cork, has chosen to do, as evidenced by this rather striking image – posted on Twitter by fellow Green councillor Dan Boyle – neatly depicting the vast chasm in space routinely provided for some commuters over others.

While several cyclists praised Finn’s decision to park her bike in her designated Deputy Lord Mayor’s spot, with different variations on “Love it” peppering the replies, the image did however strike up a rather heated debate (it is social media after all) on the use of so-called ‘car’ parking spaces for bikes – and whether designated parking spaces for officials should even still be the norm if we want to encourage active travel.

“Celebrating wasted space. Hilarious,” said Aodhán, while Orchard Man also described Finn’s bike parking as a “symbol of ‘road’ space wasted by cyclists”.

“If the space isn’t needed for cars, put in a bike rack,” he continued.

“Selfish though. Bet that same person will whine about a car taking up space on a cycle path,” added Nick, as if those two examples are directly comparable.

Meanwhile, Colum wrote: “I suppose it’s political humour but it’s wasteful. She could have requested removal of the sign.”

Others, naturally, were baffled by the backlash to a cyclist parking their bike in a reserved space for an elected official in an underground car park…

“People saying it’s a waste of space but no one can park in it but her so who cares if her bike is in it. That’s fine!” said greekman.

Meanwhile, when it comes to the issue of ‘wasted space’, some cyclists noted that another culprit could perhaps be responsible for taking up too much unnecessary room.

“I know, crazy how many bikes you can fit in the space of a car, isn't it?” wrote Tim. “Crazy waste of space, five empty seats and two tonnes of metal just to move somebody around when clearly this is all most of us need.”

“This makes you think how much space a commuter actually needs if we would be more conscious,” said the Cork Cycling Campaign.

Con, however, noted that the very concept of ‘privileged’ car parking was detrimental to the cause of active travel.

“As long as we dole out privileged parking places to an entitled few, we are never gonna see progress on the use of public transport or alternative transportation like cycling,” he said.

“The few isn’t the issue, it's a wider issue with council and civil service staff too,” added Cycling in Kilkenny. “How much will an entire council staff care about public transport if they get free parking?”

30 January 2024, 11:22
GB News Highway Code debate January 2024
Highway Code changes “passed me by”, says Eamonn Holmes – as GB News presenter calls for “regular” retests in shockingly balanced debate

Alright, don’t panic, but I think there’s been a glitch in the matrix somewhere near the GB News studios…

Because, after yesterday’s “concerning” report that more than half of motorists surveyed by the RAC are still unsure whether the Highway Code changes have made the roads safer for vulnerable road users, two years on from their implementation, this morning GB News decided to hold a debate on the changes and their effect on cyclists – and, rather shockingly, it was a pretty balanced affair.

> More Highway Code news: RAC research suggests half of drivers still unsure if Highway Code changes have made roads any safer for pedestrians

At the start of the segment, which in classic GB News style pitted cycling instructor and director of FlightFreeUK Anna Hughes and motorising journalist Danny Kelly against each other, presenter Eamonn Holmes (who has firmly enhanced his controversialist credentials in recent years) chose to flip things completely on their head by asserting that “I think the Highway Code is a good thing”.

“I just don’t think any of us pay any attention to it,” Ruth’s husband continued. “We should all be tested on it quite regularly, we should have revision courses.”

I have to admit, Eamonn Holmes calling for Highway Code revision courses – and, even, later in the segment bringing up the possibility of mandatory driving retests – wasn’t on my January 2024 bingo card.

Highway Code changes (Tier press release)

Even Danny Kelly admitted that he hasn’t adhered to the new guidelines on giving way to vulnerable road users on side roads – a problem shared by 25 per cent of drivers, according to the RAC’s survey – and said the Highway Code changes should have been publicised more widely through a leafleting campaign sent to all UK driving licence holders.

And, by the end, the presenters were highlighting the dangers posed on the roads to cyclists, Hughes and Kelly were agreeing that the ‘war’ on motorists was preposterous, and they all concurred that cycling, you know, wasn’t all bad.

I bet Darren Grimes is fuming…

30 January 2024, 16:53
The greatest bike chase scene of all time?

This week 20 years ago, Garth Marenghi’s Darkplace premiered on Channel 4 (well, if you don’t count its original 1980s release in Peru that is).

So, what better way to celebrate such a landmark moment in British televisual culture than by enjoying perhaps the greatest cycling-themed chase scene in history?

Have a good evening, folks!

30 January 2024, 16:19
Highway Code changes (Tier press release)
“My fork-lift licence required a refresh every three years or I could not do my job. My driving licence does not”: reader on the public’s (lack of) awareness of the Highway Code changes

Following Eamonn Holmes’ confession this morning that the Highway Code changes passed him by, along with the GB News presenter’s rather surprising suggestion that motorists should be subject to occasional retests, a reader (and relative newcomer to cycling) got in touch to share their views on how we can ensure that all drivers are made aware of any future changes to the Highway Code:

I read with interest an article on your site about the lack of awareness about the recent (ok, well not so recent, but also not well advertised and definitely not well adopted) changes to the Highway Code that were published two years ago, that focused on changes to make our roads safer for the most vulnerable users.

I am a newish cycler and long-time car driver in my 50s, and while I do see plenty of instances of good road safety by (the majority) of drivers while out on my bike, I also see far too much dangerous behaviour, especially by older (middle age) drivers in so called SUV and high powered vehicles and ‘professional’ drivers whose road space entitlement seriously outweighs the narrowness of their safety margins for the pedestrians and cyclists that share their (I deliberately put ‘their’ instead of ‘our’) roads with them.

I have been driving for 30 years and not once have I been required to take a licence refresher or been tested on ANY of my knowledge of the Highway Code since I passed my test. Surely there must be drivers with 40 or 50 year gaps between passing their test and yet there is still no further requirement to demonstrate how changes to safety on ever more congested roads applies to them.

My fork lift licence required a refresh every 3 years or I could not do my job. My driving licence does not.

Recently I had to update my driving licence because it was nearly 10 years old. Surely, as a condition of a new licence being issued, can’t the Minister in charge of transport add a simple on-line test to the application process, where a driver MUST be made aware of AND demonstrate knowledge of any new changes to the Highway Code?

As well as highlighting the new safety directives, it will make prosecution of bad drivers easier when drivers fail to put the new rules into action if they have to show they know the rules.

This way, eventually ALL drivers will be compelled to be aware of existing and future changes to the Highway Code, at not much cost to the Government, and we all benefit.

I do believe that as a car driver and as a cyclist that I am much more aware of the dangers that I encounter as a cyclist, that I was pretty complacent about when I was only driving.

30 January 2024, 15:28
Speaking of the joys of time trialling…

I think it’s fair to say young Ferney Molina left everything on the road on the way to coming fifth at the U23 Colombian national time trial championships:

Go get that lad a McDonald’s!

30 January 2024, 14:59
Campagnolo makes Bora Ultra WTO and Bora WTO road wheelsets “lighter” and “more aerodynamic”

Campagnolo has revamped its Bora wheelset range, updating both the Ultra WTO and WTO road bike wheels. The iconic Italian brand claims that they are lighter and more aerodynamic than their predecessors and like many modern wheels now feature a wider internal rim width. However, one thing that hasn’t benefited from some weight reduction is the price tag – prices for the range start at a rather hefty £2,200 a pair. Ouch.

2024 Campagnolo Bora Ultra WTO riding shot

Read more: > Campagnolo makes Bora Ultra WTO and Bora WTO road wheelsets “lighter” and “more aerodynamic”

30 January 2024, 14:25
2023 Strade Bianche Pidcock  - 3.jpeg
Now can we start calling it the sixth monument? 2024 Strade Bianche set to feature more kilometres and more gravel sectors

Strade Bianche’s long-held claim to be professional cycling’s sixth monument kicked up a gear today in Siena, where the race organisers revealed that this year’s edition of the Tuscan classic is set to feature more kilometres and more white gravel roads than ever before.

The men’s race, won last year by Tom Pidcock, is set to be extended by over 30km, rising from an 184km-long test with 11 gravel sectors to a 215km one with a whopping 15 sections of gruelling, ever-changing white roads.

The increased distance of the men’s Strade Bianche has now brought it considerably closer, in terms of length at least, to cycling’s five most prestigious one-day classics, which tend to range between 240km and 260km (the shortest of the monuments, Il Lombardia, clocked in at 238km last autumn).

2020 Strade Bianche (Cor Vos)

(SWPix/Cor Vos)

Of course, Strade Bianche has long been touted as the number one contender to the ‘sixth monument’ crown, with only its shorter distance – equating, roughly, to two hours of racing – holding it back in terms of prestige. This year’s revamped route should go some way to closing the gulf to the big five, and amplifying the by-now annual clamour for it to be given a title that, in reality, holds little significance except in the minds of cycling obsessives.

Meanwhile, the women’s race – won in epic fashion in Siena by Demi Vollering over her SD Worx teammate Lotte Kopecky – will increase by one solitary kilometre to 137km, but also feature four more gravel sectors, bringing the total to 12.

Both races’ additional gravel kilometres stem from the inclusion of an extra lap before the run-in to Siena and its mythical final climb, with the often decisive climbs of Colle Pinzuto and Le Tolfe now set to be tackled twice.

30 January 2024, 13:59
MPs call for urgent changes for victims of road violence

MPs from across parliament came together today to call for urgent changes for the victims of road violence, telling a Westminster Hall debate about harrowing cases of road violence from across the United Kingdom and urging action such as compulsory re-testing for disqualified driving, ensuring that exceptional hardship truly is exceptional, thorough investigation of major collisions, escalating penalties for repeat offences, and more.

Newmarket Road fatal collision sign, Norwich (credit: Peter Silburn)

Read more: > MPs call for urgent changes for victims of road violence

30 January 2024, 13:25
Young Dutch sprinter Casper van Auden pips Dylan Groenewegen and Tim Merlier on first stage of the AlUla Tour

Late January and early February mean only one thing in the cycling world – lunchtime sprint finishes!

And after a few weeks battling sleep to catch even a glimpse of the racing down under, must-watch-live viewers will be pleased to learn that the peloton has migrated to the Middle East, for some much more civilised stage finish times (apologies, Aussie cycling fans, I appreciate you have to put up with it all year round).

On today’s opening stage of the five-day race formerly known as the Saudi Tour, DSM-Firmenich PostNL’s promising young Dutch sprinter Casper van Auden surprised the big guns, as the 22-year-old launched early and held off the vastly more experienced Dylan Groenewegen and Tim Merlier for arguably the biggest win of his career.

Van Auden has shown his promise in fast finishes before, of course, taking wins at the Tour de Normandie, and coming close at both the Tour of Britain and Milano-Torino last year, but he’s certainly started his 2024 season with one or two prestigious scalps on the first day of the AlUla Tour.

Take a note of the name.

30 January 2024, 12:58
National time trial road bike Tamsin Miller - CTT
“If you have a bike, you can ride a time trial!” Road bike participation in time trials up 42 per cent, after TT governing body introduced new category last year

Cycling Time Trials’ decision to introduce a separate category for standard road bikes at all of its events last year appears to have paid dividends, as the governing body announced this week that road bike participation in TTs has risen by more than half, proving – according to CTT’s chairperson – that “if you have a bike, you can ride a time trial”.

Last April, in a bid to encourage more people to race solo against the clock, the governing body for time trials in England, Wales, and Scotland created a distinct road bike category, which meant riders without the fancy tech and aero bars could simply click the road bike option when entering a CTT-sanctioned event, with post-ride results listed and scored separately from those on TT bikes.

> Road bike category introduced by British time trial governing body to "get more people time trialling"

And according to CTT, which today announced its dates and courses for the 2024 season, the move has worked a treat, boosting road bike numbers by 42 per cent, with 83 per cent of the time trialling newbies trying out British cycling’s holiest of disciplines for the first time last year doing so on dropped bars.

“While I’m excited to see how the elite riders perform in this superb 2024 calendar, I’m also proud that time trialling is once again becoming a sport for everyone,” CTT’s chair Andrea Parish said today.

“Our data shows that road bike participation is up 42 per cent compared with last year and that 83  per cent of riders new to time trialling entered the road bike category exclusively.

“For me it’s essential that our sport doesn’t put up barriers. If you have a bike, you can ride a time trial!”

30 January 2024, 12:24
2023 Men's Ryedale Grasscrete Grand Prix (Craig Zadoroznyj/
British Cycling’s elite road racing task force shares recommendations for “reinvigorating” flagging domestic scene

British Cycling’s elite road racing task force, set up last August to support the governing body as it attempts to “innovate and energise” local racing in Britain, has shared a list of 16 recommendations which it hopes will breathe new life into a flagging domestic scene suffering from setback after setback in recent years.

Chaired by Ed Clancy, the task force engaged with more than 250 people across the sport in the UK to consider the composition of the elite national calendar, the challenges facing the rapidly dwindling number of domestic teams, and opportunities to grow the reach and profile of local races.

Its 16 recommendations to the governing body – which aim to help create a varied, competitive, and sustainable National Road Series, a National Circuit Series tailored for mass audiences, and ensure that Britain retains its WorldTour stage races following the recent demise of Tour of Britain and Women’s Tour organisers SweetSpot – are as follows:

Explore the creation of a centralised procurement function.

Produce a new branding, marketing and communications framework.

Undertake a full review of the digital strategy.

Develop event organiser succession plans for all national series events.

Develop a ‘Winning Pattern’ playbook based on existing successful races.

Consider a targeted sponsorship agreement for the National Series.

Review rider entry processes to stimulate early entries.

Develop best practice guidance for teams.

Undertake a full review of the National Circuit Series.

Prioritise National Circuit Series locations by audience size.

Review the entry criteria for WorldTour riders to enter the National Circuit Series.

Review the national road calendar and ensure more races are outside of the north of England.

All efforts should be made to ensure delivery of the Tour of Britain and a UCI Women’s World Tour stage race in 2024.

Explore opportunities to increase the number of UCI 1.2 and 2.2 races.

Undertake a full review of race distances and rider qualification criteria.

Consider a new range of jerseys for the National Road Series and a capped maximum entry cost.

“It’s been a real privilege to lead the Elite Road Racing Task Force through this process and I hope that the recommendations published today can help to galvanise the community and help domestic road racing to grow and flourish in the future,” Olympic champion pursuiter Clancy said in a statement yesterday.

“While the task force members have done a huge amount of work, our recommendations belong to the whole community. We’re hugely thankful to everybody who took time to engage with us through the process, and their experience and insight was vital in enabling us to paint a true picture of the current opportunities and challenges they see.

“Though this now concludes our work, the task force will continue to be a critical and supportive friend as British Cycling moves into its implementation phase, and we look forward to seeing the plans take shape.”

> How do we save UK bike racing? SweetSpot's PR Director on Women's Tour cancellation and staying positive for the future

Responding to the task force’s recommendations, British Cycling CEO Jon Dutton said: “I’d like to thank Ed and the task force members for their commitment to the process over the past four months as we collectively look to tackle a matter of real importance for our sport and our membership.

“While it is clear from the report that there are no easy answers, we have taken positive steps with our 2024 elite road calendar, and now have a clear long-term roadmap to propel our national level events towards sustainable growth in the future.

“This has been a new way of working for British Cycling, which demonstrates our commitment to openness and collaboration with our communities, and to finding solutions to our most pressing challenges. We look forward to sharing our progress over the months and years ahead.”

30 January 2024, 11:59
Bring me my arrows of desire, being me my spear (but just not next to the cycle lane, okay?)
30 January 2024, 10:58
Yet another example of why hi-vis clothing may not be a panacea for cyclists’ road safety, after all

Cue the obligatory ‘but, but cyclists’ comments... 

Ryan joined in December 2021 and since then has kept the site’s readers and listeners informed and enthralled (well at least occasionally) on news, the live blog, and the Podcast. After boarding a wrong bus at the world championships and ruining a good pair of jeans at the cyclocross, he now serves as’s senior news writer. Before his foray into cycling journalism, he wallowed in the equally pitiless world of academia, where he wrote a book about Victorian politics and droned on about cycling and bikes to classes of bored students (while taking every chance he could get to talk about cycling in print or on the radio). He can be found riding his bike very slowly around the narrow, scenic country lanes of Co. Down.

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mattsccm | 3 months ago

Calling the Strada Bianche a monument is as ridiculous as calling that big road race aropund London a "classic". Neither can become such a thing without the significant, should I say major, impact of time. You cannot create a monument in a couple fo decades.  

Bradshsi | 3 months ago

Safety is all about layers of protection. I support wear hi vis since it makes me more visible to other road users. But it can't overcome a driver who fails to look...

chrisonabike replied to Bradshsi | 3 months ago

Yes. Although referring to hi-vis as "protection" is putting it a bit strongly...

I agree with layered safety though - big feature of "sustainable safety" but actually appears many places. We already do it for motorists in some cases! Consider eg. motorway design - single direction of motion, physical separation from other traffic, lanes, rumble strips, energy absorbing barriers...

ROOTminus1 replied to Bradshsi | 3 months ago
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Indeed, the swiss cheese model. Which contrary to the name, does not encourage the wearing of wheels of Gruyère and a casquette of Tete du Moines.
Even that's not enough to catch the attention of some drivists

What I think you'd appreciate is the hierarchy of protections, which puts PPE like hi-vis and helmets as the very last line of defence, as they presume that everything else has failed. Real, meaningful protections, like worthwhile infra that ideally removes the potential for vehicles and cyclists to interact completely, or more realistically significantly reduces the exposure, is the first step.

Wingguy replied to ROOTminus1 | 3 months ago
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Though in this case when all the holes line up, drivers who don't bother to look still can't see through them. 

(Yes I know that's really torturing the reference!)

mattw | 3 months ago

I've been on Twitter on this driver who ran down the cyclist on the roundabout.

Best I have had so far is 'the cyclist was in front of the vehicle, and at traffic islands any driver knows you look to the right.'

Barraob1 | 3 months ago

Part of the driving test should be getting hit by 30kmh, it's the only way I can see people's attitudes changing. If you've been disqualified from driving, the speed goes up to 35kmh then 50kmh after you're third time.

PRSboy | 3 months ago
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I dont like main road roundabouts particularly... particularly going across or right round them rather than turning left.  I worry about the closing speeds of drivers joining the roundabout who are so busy looking right for vehicles that they don't look straight on.

I generally ride central to my lane, to give me a chance of taking avoiding action if a driver doesn't see me when they are joining.

Certainly a trip I did once along sections of the Swindon ring road... dual carriageways, HGVs and big old roundabouts was quite an adrenaline buzz!

chrisonabike replied to PRSboy | 3 months ago
andystow | 3 months ago

A couple of years ago I won the prize of a close, reserved parking spot at work for a month. Not a lot of value to me as I cycle in more than 80% of the time, and on the few days I do drive, I park in the far corner of the parking lot to get some extra steps in.

Plus, the parking lot is less than half of my walking. It's 250 m to my desk where I normally park, or 130 m from the reserved one. It mostly sat empty, but when I rode in on my one bike that had a kickstand, I parked it in the middle of the spot. It was about the same distance from the entry turnstile as the bike racks were.

NOtotheEU | 3 months ago

GB News seems to be having a good day today as they also had an interview with Sarah Hope about killer drivers getting lenient punishments.

Karlt replied to NOtotheEU | 3 months ago

Right wing top trumps innit? Softy Lefty Judges(TM) versus The War On The Motorist(TM)

stonojnr | 3 months ago

Is the "reinvigorating" in quotes ? because your impression is similar to mine that the road racing task force recommendations, are unlikely to reinvigorate a damn thing.

stonojnr | 3 months ago

Somebody needs to check the archives to see if GB News or Eamonn Holmes covered the HC changes when they came in, because its absolutely the thing they would have covered for confusing the poor hard working motorists.

that Eamonn has forgotten about it, says far more about people's attitudes in general towards driving than it does about how much publicity the changes had.

redimp | 3 months ago

"I bet Darren Grimes is fuming…"

So fuming, he will have had to whack off a swifty

IanMK | 3 months ago

Danny Kelly is a motoring journalist? When did that happen? Mate of Danny Baker and formerly working for the NME and Q? That Danny Kelly?

Sorry, that was my only takeaway from that story.

Kendalred replied to IanMK | 3 months ago

Different Danny Kelly. Thankfully.

hutchdaddy replied to IanMK | 3 months ago

Yes, not the former NME jornalist, Danny Kelly who called Rafa Benitez a nonce live on air, , but it's former used car salesman and now "motoring journalist" and BBC WM presenter . He is presumably GBeenies choice of a driving expert. He admits he had a knowledge of the highway code when he took his driving test, 25 years ago, but know has "probably forgot all about it".

Martin Stevens | 3 months ago

Awful to see and, sadly, an all too common occurrence based on how many people bring bikes to me after similar collisions.
Apart from best wishes to the rider I'd just like to raise my concern with Ryan's article with regard to the description of the driver having pulled onto the roundabout and "clipped" the cyclist.
The reason I say this is that I'm certain that it didn't feel like a clip - and because without fail drivers who have admitted liability in collisions with my customers, but are trying to belatedly make their excuses, all have used the term "clipped" to describe the impact of their vehicle on a vulnerable road user.
I know for sure the victims used words such as "hit" or "struck" - because that's what it felt like, and that's what it was.
No one here wants to make excuses for the driver, but it's very easy to inadvertently do so by using words that are designed to soften the language used to describe a frightening, violent, and potentially lethal, impact caused by another person's negligence or aggression at the wheel.of their vehicle.

Matthew Acton-Varian replied to Martin Stevens | 3 months ago

Agreed. A "clip" might mean at worst a slightly bent wheel and almost always scuffs from tarmac contact, but the bike is otherwise completely sound. And unless the rider is extremely unlucky will most likely escape with minor injuries.

A proper impact will almost definitely have consequences for componentry and the rider is much more likely to suffer more serious injury.

Surreyrider replied to Martin Stevens | 3 months ago

Agree. Similar incident. Woman in a car hit me - yes hit as in broke my left leg and sent me flying across the roundabout to gather a load of road rash. She admitted it in front of witnesses luckily because she later told her insuance company I just fell off. But it was definitely 'hit' because it bloody hurt and took six-odd weeks of recovery.

mitsky replied to Martin Stevens | 3 months ago

100% agree.

As always, language matters.

Matthew Acton-Varian | 3 months ago

Eamon Holmes said it, Highway Code revision courses should be done any time a photocard licence expires (eithwer photo renewal, information changes, end of a ban etc)


mctrials23 replied to Matthew Acton-Varian | 3 months ago

Honestly, its not the lack of understanding of highway code changes that is the issue, its the general standards of driving. There has never been a point where its okay to pull across a cyclist forcing them to either crash into you or slam on their brakes. There has never been a time when overtaking at speed 20cm from my bars has been OK. 

Fundamentally, every sensible cyclists on the road rides to the reality of cycling, not the highway code. I don't undertake cars when passing a side road in case they just turn into me. I don't care that I have priority, I don't want to be injured or killed.

General standards of driving and attention need to improve massively and that could be achieved with a retest every 5 years and far more strict punishment for dangerous driving. Get caught intentionally putting other road users in danger? There goes your licence for at least 6 months. Get caught unintentionally driving poorly twice in a year? There goes your licence. 

Matthew Acton-Varian replied to mctrials23 | 3 months ago

Generally, standards of driving and lack of undersatnding HC changes go hand in hand.

There are a minority of idiots who deliberately ignore everything they should do due to an entitled attitude. Most other drivers (any trust me, nearly every single driver makes at least one questionable decision on a semi-regular basis, even the careful ones) become complacent because they are not challenged to prove their competency. If you are regularly challenged (ie by taking a revision course on HC changes) then you will keep your standards higher for fear of being deemed incompetent.

The Government did not help by not making a song and dance about what were the biggest revisions to the HC seen in a long time, and certainly much bigger than any other in the time I have been driving. A proper PR campaign would have made a huge difference in people knowing of their existence and understanding what they mean. More drivers would follow the new rules and it would be easier to discern deliberately dangerous drivers from the rest of the motoring demographic, as the probability of carelessness from other drivers becomes greatly reduced.

antigee | 3 months ago

..."oblivious motorist still managed to pull out onto the roundabout and clip them...."

I used to post suggesting stop using "punishment pass" and use "punishment pass AKA cowards pass" anyway what is being "clipped" ? It's a collision...driver steering a lump of metal into road user who has no's not being "clipped"

mattw replied to antigee | 3 months ago
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There is hope !!!

I'm winning the "separated / protected" vs "segregated" war.

Steve K | 3 months ago
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Sharing this because (a) I'm sure lots of us have al fresco wees when riding through the countryside and (b) it may be a unique case of Freeman's views getting majority support on here -

wycombewheeler replied to Steve K | 3 months ago

Steve K wrote:

Sharing this because (a) I'm sure lots of us have al fresco wees when riding through the countryside and (b) it may be a unique case of Freeman's views getting majority support on here -

needs to be contested in court, weeing in the wild on permeable surfaces cannot possibly be littering. Are the council going to require that dog owners take liquids as well as solids home?

If it is the case that urinating in the countryside is not allowed, then surely there is a requirement on councils to provide facilities, because "just hold it until you reach a town" is not viable. Further the policy of the majority of local councils to lock public conveniences at 16:00 -17:00 needs to be reassessed as a de facto curfew.

My rules for rural bladder emptying 1) not in view of a residence or normally occupied building (shop/office/warehouse), 2) not on an impermeable surface  3) not in a settlement of any kind.  4) preferably not in view of a road

hawkinspeter replied to wycombewheeler | 3 months ago

wycombewheeler wrote:

Steve K wrote:

Sharing this because (a) I'm sure lots of us have al fresco wees when riding through the countryside and (b) it may be a unique case of Freeman's views getting majority support on here -

needs to be contested in court, weeing in the wild on permeable surfaces cannot possibly be littering. Are the council going to require that dog owners take liquids as well as solids home?

If it is the case that urinating in the countryside is not allowed, then surely there is a requirement on councils to provide facilities, because "just hold it until you reach a town" is not viable. Further the policy of the majority of local councils to lock public conveniences at 16:00 -17:00 needs to be reassessed as a de facto curfew.

My rules for rural bladder emptying 1) not in view of a residence or normally occupied building (shop/office/warehouse), 2) not on an impermeable surface  3) not in a settlement of any kind.  4) preferably not in view of a road

Also, there's plenty of people that suffer from bladder issues or even just old age that can struggle to find appropriate facilities in time. To my mind, free toilets and free drinking water (both 24h) should be a minimum of civilisation.


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