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Near Miss of the Day 838: "Tell me again about hi-vis and lights!" — Cyclist narrowly avoids collision at mini roundabout

Having almost knocked a cyclist off her bike this motorist then runs a red light to avoid a tricky conversation

You've probably heard a 'cyclists must wear hi-vis' argument before, whether from a morning talk show ranter, anonymous Twitter account or even a UK police force, but today's Near Miss of the Day perfectly demonstrates how sometimes even when you've taken every reasonable step to make yourself visible you can still be on the receiving end of dangerous driving...

This one happened at a mini roundabout and shows, Cyclegranny says, what happens when "bad road design meets [an] idiot driver". "She was looking right and not ahead when she reached the junction, so I think I was invisible," the rider said.

What's more, having predictably quickly caught up with the driver now waiting at the next red traffic light, Cyclegranny explained the incident was on camera and would be going to the police, prompting the driver to run a red light and flee.

> Near Miss of the Day turns 100 - Why do we do the feature and what have we learnt from it?

Over the years road.cc has reported on literally hundreds of close passes and near misses involving badly driven vehicles from every corner of the country – so many, in fact, that we’ve decided to turn the phenomenon into a regular feature on the site. One day hopefully we will run out of close passes and near misses to report on, but until that happy day arrives, Near Miss of the Day will keep rolling on.

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> What to do if you capture a near miss or close pass (or worse) on camera while cycling

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Fignon's ghost | 1 year ago
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Cyclegranny. You rock! Cracking bit of camera kit too!

I hope they get chains. Bad drivers should be jailed for their law breaking Shenanigans.

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joe9090 replied to Fignon's ghost | 1 year ago
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They should gert corporal punishment for that. 

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BIRMINGHAMisaDUMP | 1 year ago
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That was a truly terrible 'near miss'. I hope the driver is prosecuted. 

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JustTryingToGet... | 1 year ago
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The sheer fucking audacity of shitty motorists!

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Bungle_52 | 1 year ago
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Well done to cyclegranny for avoiding a collision. Obviously a very experienced cyclist.

If the police don't take action on that one we really are in trouble. I look forward to an update. Do we know which force it is?

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Rendel Harris replied to Bungle_52 | 1 year ago
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Bungle_52 wrote:

Do we know which force it is?

Anne lives and works in Belfast so it's the PSNI; unfortunately judging by her previous experience getting action from them is a lottery to say the least.

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wtjs replied to Bungle_52 | 1 year ago
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If the police don't take action on that one we really are in trouble

They won't and we are

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P3t3 | 1 year ago
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Had this exact move pulled on me in the past. I ended up between the driver and an island in the middle of the road shouting "what are you doing" at a very surprised driver.

The driver didn't look properly and so had no idea the cyclist was there, likely as a result of the cyclist being behind the very thick/raked A-pillar and the driver not moving their head. It's a classic example of Convergent Directon Decreasing Distance. Probably the driver was actually relying on peripheral vision to see cars.

In the driver's position following my error and faced with an angry figure and bright lights I might well run the red to get away. This doesn't make any of it right. Shit driving from start to finish.

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AlsoSomniloquism | 1 year ago
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I see all the nutjobs on Twitter are stating it is the cyclists fault for having a flashing light. Apparently you can't be seen with one. Before any of the resident nutters decided to jump in with the same argument, she had a fixed and flashing light.

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Hirsute replied to AlsoSomniloquism | 1 year ago
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AlsoSomniloquism wrote:

I see all the nutjobs on Twitter are stating it is the cyclists fault for existing

FTFY

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joe9090 replied to Hirsute | 1 year ago
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Sad but so very true

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LeadenSkies replied to AlsoSomniloquism | 1 year ago
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I struggle with finding any possible logic in the statement that you can't be seen with a flashing light. Can't be looking for very long if the argument is they looked in the "off" segment and if the argument is they are blind d by the flash then they clearly saw something was there. My money is on a failure to make sufficient observations, or more likely failure to look at all!

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NOtotheEU replied to LeadenSkies | 1 year ago
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LeadenSkies wrote:

or more likely failure to look at all!

Bingo.

If flashing lights were a problem then all cars would be like Audis and not have indicators fitted.

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Awavey replied to LeadenSkies | 1 year ago
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but remember that all those clever optical illusion/magic eye tricks are based on the fact what you see is translated by your brain into a pattern that it recognises and it tends to ignore things it doesnt, whilst treating driving as an autopilot mode, sounds like a lethal combo and often is.

and if the pattern is 4 wheels steady lights, stop, else carry on its clear, then we will always fall in the bucket the brain is ignoring and hence the "I didnt see you" or "flashing lights cant be seen" whilst its in autopilot mode. It requires the driver to make a concious observation of no I need to double check its clear, not assume its clear because my brain is being clever only showing me half the information at roundabouts or junctions like that.

as I said before I think the drivers decision to make that turn happens before cyclinggranny is even within sight, theyre driving a quick glance cant see a vehicle, carry on mode

 

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LeadenSkies replied to Awavey | 1 year ago
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You may be right and it's frightening that some drivers think a quick glance, some way before the junction is enough of a look on which to base a decision to pull out. I was taught, and still practice, at least two looks in each direction, physically moving my head between each so as to eliminate A Post blind spots, using a proper scan of whole field of vision, properly focussing on three or four different points across that field to eliminate the tendency for your brain to fill in the image with what it thinks should be in the bits the eye doesn't register if you simply move in one continuous sweep. It takes a second or so to look properly but it is time well spent.

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Spangly Shiny replied to LeadenSkies | 3 months ago
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You hit the nail squarely on the head there. I for one was taught how to look (as part of Army driver training) 1st look is for cars etc, 2nd look is for motos and 3rd look is for bicycles. All three looks with head moving to eliminate A pillar blind spot.
The missus gives me constant grief about it.

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hawkinspeter replied to Spangly Shiny | 3 months ago
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Spangly Shiny wrote:

You hit the nail squarely on the head there. I for one was taught how to look (as part of Army driver training) 1st look is for cars etc, 2nd look is for motos and 3rd look is for bicycles. All three looks with head moving to eliminate A pillar blind spot.
The missus gives me constant grief about it.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYJYA0P5ls8

Or, how about the alternative version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6c2ZF_Ksv0s

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Oldfatgit replied to AlsoSomniloquism | 1 year ago
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I'd kind agree that you are invisible with ..
- flashing light
- steady light
- wheel reflectors
- reflective rims (good old Marathon Plus)
- Proviz 360 jacket
- Proviz gloves

Totally invisible...
https://youtu.be/_AIssivzUvA

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a1white | 1 year ago
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Has a certain individual been banned from the comments?

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Hirsute replied to a1white | 1 year ago
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Nigel has

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chrisonabike replied to Hirsute | 1 year ago
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*pedantry* One incarnation of the most obvious current manifestation of "Nigel" has... */pedantry*

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hutchdaddy replied to Hirsute | 1 year ago
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That's kind of a shame that we don't have a figure of fun...no actually whoopee!!!!!

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Rendel Harris replied to a1white | 1 year ago
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Don't think so, he's just busy self-righteously revelling in a cyclist getting killed elsewhere. He'll get to this when he's got time.

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eburtthebike | 1 year ago
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I suspect she thought that the cyclist was turning right and decided not to wait until it was clear that they were, and undertook anyway.

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Awavey replied to eburtthebike | 1 year ago
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what right turn ?  its a 3 way exit/entry mini roundbout.

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Awavey | 1 year ago
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is that really bad road design ? or just bad driving ? I dont think alot of drivers approaching roundabouts like that look properly and often make the decision to turn before theyve even got there and arent slowing/being prepared to stop.

Id swear also that another car ahead of them thinks about stopping at the traffic lights and then decides nah sod it.

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AlsoSomniloquism replied to Awavey | 1 year ago
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Id swear also that another car ahead of them thinks about stopping at the traffic lights and then decides nah sod it.

I suspect they did jump it, but they could argue they had already crossed the line on Orange/Green and the traffic queue stopped them from continuing. 

As for your first comment, just bad driving, as evidenced with her "getaway" at the end. 

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OldRidgeback | 1 year ago
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I hope the police take action.

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HLaB replied to OldRidgeback | 1 year ago
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The cynic in me says they will take action but for the rlj and not for nearly killing someone 😐

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AlsoSomniloquism replied to HLaB | 1 year ago
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The extra cynic will be that they won't prosecute the RLJ as the driver was getting away from the "deranged cyclist" threatening them, especially as there is no sound. 

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