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I’ve got a punctured… thru-axle? Bizarre Fisherman’s Friend ad; Cav jumps on NFT train; TDF crash like a “war zone” says race doc; Thomas crashes with reports of dislocated shoulder; Positive Twitter thread about London cycling & more on the Live Blog

With Dan Alexander on his holibobs, Liam Cahill takes the wheel of Monday’s Live Blog
  • by Liam Cahill
Mon, Jun 28, 2021 08:14
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SUMMARY

  • The weekend Roundup
  • Cav has hopped on the NFT bandwagon
  • Whisper it quietly... *positive Twitter cycling thread*
  • Van der Poel's bike gets the yellow treatment.
  • No white bib shorts 😒
  • Another crash at the front of the bunch, and this one takes Thomas and Roglic down
  • Saturday's crash left "unimaginable breakage and bodies everywhere"
  • It was quite a finale...
  • I've got a punctured... thru-axle? Cyclists bemused by bike-themed Fisherman's Friend lozenges ad
  • It's going to be busy on the X-Ray bus
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28 June 2021, 08:14

The weekend Roundup

It’s Monday again and we’re feeling a little like Mathieu. Admittedly, his tiredness was caused by an exceptional stage win that also netted him an emotional rendevous with the Yellow Jersey. Ours is caused by a couple of easy rides and some light gardening, but it’s all relative… 

Here’s what you might have missed at the weekend, starting with non-TdF news.

  • Leah Goldstein makes history by becoming the first woman to win Race Across America
  • There’s £1000 worth of NamedSport prizes up for grabs with 11 chances to win!
  • Had saddle pain on your weekend ride? Here’s how to avoid it

And now for a round-up of TdF news…

  • Men’s road World Champion, Julian Alaphilippe took stage one with a huge attack on the day’s punchy final climb
  • But massive crashes marred the stage with the first being caused by a spectator who stands to be sued by the race organisers
  • The pile-up was big and the chaos is shown perfectly by this video from a Jumbo-Visma mechanic
  • Having missed one chance, Van der Poel wasted no time in putting things right, winning the stage and taking the bonus seconds needed to also secure the Yellow jersey, something that his grandfather, Raymon Poulidor never managed
  • Oh and this is why Jumbo-Visma have those strange blue tyres. No, it isn’t one to be used on the indoor trainer
28 June 2021, 08:14

Cav has hopped on the NFT bandwagon

 
 
 
 
View this post on Instagram
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

A post shared by Mark Cavendish (@markcavendish)

Mark Cavendish has announced that he is set to launch a series of NFTs (Non-Fungible-Token) which celebrate his 30 stage wins at the Tour.

The NFTs include “exclusive drops, art collaborations & new drops”, though we’re not entirely sure what you’d virtually be the owner of.

The comments on Cav’s Instagram post aren’t all positive, with several pointing to the less than favourable environmental impacts attached to the digital art. 

Cavendish joins Bahrain Victorious in the crypto-art world. His former team turned up at the team presentation in shiny new jerseys, but they were then destroyed and one virtual copy will be auctioned to raise money for diabetes charities.

Back in the real world, Cavendish will be hoping to take a win in today’s stage, which we’ll have a look at in just a little bit.

28 June 2021, 08:14

Whisper it quietly... *positive Twitter cycling thread*

There’s a few lycra-clad colleagues who bike to work each morning (for some reason, they all work in our financial PR team). I’ve always viewed them with a mix of respect (hardline exercise at 06:30 – gruelling !) & as a bit bonkers given how dangerous urban roads look to me.

— Daniel Hamilton (@danielrhamilton) June 27, 2021

My first error (and I appreciate this is both a rookie one and a fundamental one) is that I didn’t wear a helmet. It’s not the kind of thing one carries around. The speed was fun – downhill! – but I was acutely aware I was one pothole away from a life-changing brain injury.

— Daniel Hamilton (@danielrhamilton) June 27, 2021

I was amazed at the speed of getting from place to place. That shouldn’t be a revelation but it was. 5 tube stops in about ~15 minutes! Urban areas are actually pretty small as the crow flies and I can now see the attraction of biking over the car, bus or train. And it’s healthy!

— Daniel Hamilton (@danielrhamilton) June 27, 2021

I appreciate much of the above are the naive ramblings of a novice – but that pretty short ride taught me a good deal about cycling, why it’s easy and fun and how it can be made a bit safer. I’ll give it a go again at some point!

— Daniel Hamilton (@danielrhamilton) June 27, 2021

Looks like we’ve converted another one. One at a time, people, one at a time.

28 June 2021, 08:14

Van der Poel's bike gets the yellow treatment.

New bike day for @mathieuvdpoel, and it’s a beauty!

Thank you @canyon_bikes 💛 pic.twitter.com/ZvCsXYdvjB

— Alpecin-Fenix Cycling Team (@AlpecinFenix) June 28, 2021

The Aplecin-Fenix mechanics probably had this one hidden away in the team truck and they’ll be rather pleased to be able to use it. 

The Canyon Aeroad CFR gets a full Shimano Dura-Ace Di2 groupset, Dura-Ace C60 tubular wheels, Vittoria Corsa G2.0 tubular tyres, and what looks to be a fully repaired front end.

The big question is, however, what bib shorts will Van der Poel don for today’s stage? He’s a big fan of white, but he could also go full yellow. Time will tell.

It’s all about yellow today 💛✌️#TDF2021 pic.twitter.com/Wfi1rSw7x2

— Alpecin-Fenix Cycling Team (@AlpecinFenix) June 28, 2021

28 June 2021, 08:14

No white bib shorts 😒

At Kalas in Tabór, CZE, they quickly made new bibs for Mathieu van der Poel

For replica kits check https://t.co/HsB0fpnYQk for team Alpecin-Fenix team versions and Nat champs kit in 🇳🇱 and 🇧🇪 available pic.twitter.com/AYKrevPo4b

— José Been (@TourDeJose) June 28, 2021

Want a pair of custom bib shorts made for you last minute and then overnighted to you, all so that you don’t have to colour clash navy blue with yellow? You just need to be one of the best bike racers on the planet.

This also answers our earlier question as to whether Van der Poel would go full yellow or break out his much-loved white bib shorts. 

28 June 2021, 08:14

Another crash at the front of the bunch, and this one takes Thomas and Roglic down

Thomas crash via GCN/Eurosport
Eurosport (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Thomas crash via GCN/Eurosport
Eurosport (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
GCN/Eurosport

We’re not entirely sure what happened there, but a crash at the front of the bunch has taken down pre-race favourites Geraint Thomas of Ineos Grenadiers along with Primoz Roglic of Jumbo Visma.

Thomas and Roglic were riding right at the front of the peloton when suddenly 

Thomas appeared to jolt upwards, suggesting that he could have hit a water bottle which would be the same way that he crashed out of the Giro last year.

Roglic remounted soon enough, but his teammate Gesink is out of the race. Thomas took longer to remount, with Bernie Eisel saying that he saw Luke Rowe signal that is was over for Thomas.

A dislocated shoulder, immediately treated by the team’s osteo, they stated on @RTBFsport

— Sven Spoormakers (@SvenSpoormakers) June 28, 2021

Reports from the race suggest that it was a dislocated shoulder that was put back in at the side of the road. Thankfully, Thomas is making his way back to the peloton, though he has around 2 minutes to make up.

28 June 2021, 08:14

Saturday's crash left "unimaginable breakage and bodies everywhere"

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Screenshot 2021-06-26 at 15.25 (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Gilbert Versier, the surgeon working on the Tour de France as one of the in-race doctors has described the mass peloton pile-up on the first stage of this year’s race as looking like the scene from a war.

Versier, speaking to l’Equipe, told of how he arrived on the scene to find “the same chaos, the same moans, bodies everywhere, and tangled machines.”

The crash, the first of two big incidents within the first stage, was caused by a fan who was holding a cardboard sign out into the road. The woman, who the police are yet to identify, was facing away from the road, trying to catch the attention of the passing TV motorbike.

Versier says that when a large crash happens in the peloton “you can’t imagine so much breakage. In the midst of the commotion, the riders are getting up and wanting to start again, the most serious cases must be identified. 

“In general, these are the ones who are furthest from the accident site, because they have been thrown.”

Thankfully, despite the two high-speed crashes taking down countless riders, only three riders were unable to finish. Marc Soller, meanwhile, finished with two broken arms and did not start stage 2.

28 June 2021, 08:14

It was quite a finale...

Jack Haig Crash TDF Stage 3
Jack Haig Crash TDF Stage 3 (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Jack Haig Crash TDF Stage 3
Jack Haig Crash TDF Stage 3 (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Today’s stage has been another crash-filled one. Jack Haig is out, he was an outside bet for the GC and Caleb Ewan has reportedly not finished after crashing around 100m from the line. His teammate says that he’s gone to hospital.

Jack Haig is out of the Tour de France. Caleb Ewan didn’t cross the finish line and according to teammate Roger Kluge (via @SophieSmith86) is off to hospital #TDF2021

— José Been (@TourDeJose) June 28, 2021

Meanwhile, speaking to Sporza, Deceuninck Quick-Step’s Tim Declerq has said that the riders asked for GC times to be taken at 8km to go, but officials didn’t respond. 

#TimDeclercq reportedly told Sporza post-stage: “Riders requested before the stage to take GC times at 8 km to go as the final was very technical. Unfortunately, there was no response.” #TDF2021

— CyclingTips (@cyclingtips) June 28, 2021

28 June 2021, 08:14

I've got a punctured... thru-axle? Cyclists bemused by bike-themed Fisherman's Friend lozenges ad

We’re not sure how much the Fisherman’s Friend social media person knows about bikes, but that ooks like it could be a puncture. Of course, it could be that Laura did indeed forget her front thru-axle (we’ve been there) but took the above picture as it was easier to frame.

Commenting on the caption, Paul Murphy said: “Except that’s the back wheel and the tyre being soft is nothing to do with the quick release axle…”

Adrew Hooper added: “They’ve [Fisherman’s Friend] helped out on many a situation, like that time stuck in a blizzard on snowdon, and the soothing lozenges got us through it.” 

Whatever the case, Laura had her strong menthol Fisherman’s Friend lozenges to make everything better. Extra points for colour-matching them with the Hope brakes too!

28 June 2021, 08:14

It's going to be busy on the X-Ray bus

.@GeraintThomas86 will head for an ultrasound post-stage, having suffered a dislocated shoulder in his crash. It was put back in at the scene by the race doctors. A full update will follow later #TDF2021 pic.twitter.com/EJa4Jz9w48

— INEOS Grenadiers (@INEOSGrenadiers) June 28, 2021

Picking today’s stage apart is going to be a tricky business but one thing that we know for sure is that the X-ray truck that follows the race will have a bit of a queue forming.

Roglič going for scans, his tailbone/coccyx is sore says DS Maassen, via @DanielDwars https://t.co/4sCdLQQ9pQ

— the Inner Ring (@inrng) June 28, 2021

Thomas is on his way there now after his crash early in the stage while Roglic, who came down really hard with 10km to go is also headed for a scan. He’s got a sore coccyx according to his DS.

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Son of a Marathon runner, Nephew of a National 24hr Champion, the racing genetics have completely passed him by. After joining the road.cc staff in 2016 as a reviewer, Liam quickly started writing feature articles and news pieces. After a little time living in Canada, where he spent most of his time eating poutine, Liam returned with the launch of DealClincher, taking over the Editor role at the start of 2018. At the weekend, Liam can be found racing on the road both in the UK and abroad, though he prefers the muddy fields of cyclocross. To date, his biggest race win is to the front of the cafe queue.  

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18 thoughts on “I’ve got a punctured… thru-axle? Bizarre Fisherman’s Friend ad; Cav jumps on NFT train; TDF crash like a “war zone” says race doc; Thomas crashes with reports of dislocated shoulder; Positive Twitter thread about London cycling & more on the Live Blog”

  1. RoubaixCube
    June 28, 2021 at 10:59 am
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    It used to take me around 40

    It used to take me around 40-50mins to commute to work every day on public transport.

    Ive been commuting by bicycle since 2014/2015  about 8miles each way and the same journey now takes me 28mins on a really good day or 32-35mins on an average day.

    Its saved me a fair chunk of money not paying TFL fares. But to be brutally honest that money often ends up being spent on more junk for the bike anyway. Its a disease i tell you.

    But yeah… Rush hour on the tube sitting/standing on packed carriages where its hot next to sweaty smelly people. If i jumped on the bus to work it would have been super cheap but the trip takes 1hr-1h15mins and i honestly dont have enough patience to sit on the bus that long there and back every day. Thats a lot of time wasted.

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    • AlsoSomniloquism
      June 28, 2021 at 11:19 am
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      But with the bus journey time

      But with the bus journey time, then you can read a book over several days or just mellow. It is the one thing I do miss on biking over bussing. I do listen to podcasts but don’t think I could concentrate on an audio book the same way as reading them allows. 

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      • RoubaixCube
        June 28, 2021 at 1:56 pm
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        Maybe there was a time where

        Maybe there was a time where i would have done it more regularly. set a timer, put on some tunes and just doze my way to and from work for £1.30 each way (im not sure if bus fares have gone up, I think its like £1.80 now or something???)

        But i find having to constantly wear a mask rather annoying unless its totally unavoidable so for me bicycle makes the most sense as im ‘away from everyone else’ in the loosest sense as in not sitting/standing right next to random people or tucked under their armpits like i would be on the tube (figure of speech, Im actually 6ft tall so its probably the other way round)

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        • brooksby
          June 28, 2021 at 3:01 pm
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          RoubaixCube wrote:

          Maybe there was a time where i would have done it more regularly. set a timer, put on some tunes and just doze my way to and from work for £1.30 each way (im not sure if bus fares have gone up, I think its like £1.80 now or something???)

          — RoubaixCube

          Where do you live?  Nineteen ninety? 😉

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          • AlsoSomniloquism
            June 28, 2021 at 3:54 pm
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            London buses are really cheap

            London buses are really cheap per journey compared to the rest of the country as TFL initially subsidised the Oyster cards to persuade people onto them by halfing the cost if they were used £1 instead of £2 in 05ish. And now that is the only options for paying for journeys, the prices are still based on the initial costs plus rises per year or so. 

          • RoubaixCube
            June 28, 2021 at 4:23 pm
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            brooksby wrote:

            Maybe there was a time where i would have done it more regularly. set a timer, put on some tunes and just doze my way to and from work for £1.30 each way (im not sure if bus fares have gone up, I think its like £1.80 now or something???)

            — brooksby

            Where do you live?  Nineteen ninety? 😉

            — RoubaixCube

             

            To be exact its currently £1.55 to hop on the bus but i do remember a time when the fare was £1.60 then £1.75 or £1.80 — its been all over the place.

            every new mayor for transport just keeps pushing fares up and down every time a new one takes over

        • brooksby
          June 28, 2021 at 3:04 pm
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          RoubaixCube wrote:

          But i find having to constantly wear a mask rather annoying unless its totally unavoidable so for me bicycle makes the most sense as im ‘away from everyone else’ in the loosest sense as in not sitting/standing right next to random people or tucked under their armpits like i would be on the tube (figure of speech, Im actually 6ft tall so its probably the other way round)

          — RoubaixCube

          Last time I travelled by bus was the last week of February last year, when things were starting to get weird.  Someone stifles a cough on the bus and everyone on there noticeably and physically twitched…

          Positive of Covid is it finally gave me that push back into regularly cycle commuting – haven’t been on a bus since then, could count on my fingers how many times I’ve driven anywhere in a private motor vehicle since then…

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        • AlsoSomniloquism
          June 28, 2021 at 3:38 pm
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          You mentioned you had been

          You mentioned you had been cycle commuting for the last 6 years so I wasn’t taking the ‘current times’ as your reason for not doing it. Anyway, it was just pointing out the options for such a journey to not be a time waste in normality.

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  2. Secret_squirrel
    June 28, 2021 at 12:36 pm
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    I do wonder how many yellow

    I do wonder how many yellow painted team bikes there are under dust sheets in the back of team trucks – just in case like, and what happens to them if they dont get used.   Do Ineos have 4 Dogma’s painted up and will they end up on ebay?

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    • Rendel Harris
      June 28, 2021 at 12:46 pm
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      Secret_squirrel wrote:

      I do wonder how many yellow painted team bikes there are under dust sheets in the back of team trucks – just in case like, and what happens to them if they dont get used.   Do Ineos have 4 Dogma’s painted up and will they end up on ebay?

      — Secret_squirrel

      I was reading about this on Twitter earlier, all teams carry a stock of all the kits and helmets they will need if one of their riders takes a jersey, which are returned to the manufacturers for distribution if they are not required. In terms of bikes, nobody carries ready painted bikes with them, partly because of the extra carrying capacity that would be required but also because most riders think it’s bad luck to anticipate by having a ready prepared bike. Manufacturers also believe that apparently, Pinarello consistently refused to supply Chris Froome with a yellow bike in advance even when he was the hottest of favourites. Generally manufacturers will have staff on alert and if one of their riders takes a jersey they start re-spraying a frame in the factory the second they are over the line and have it shipped post-haste for the mechanics to build up for the next day. In the case of Froome he felt it was ostentatious to go straight for a yellow bike when he took the jersey (and also he didn’t want the additional paint weight in the mountains) so he would ask for a little bit more yellow each day he was in the jersey, bar tape the first day, bottle cages the next and so on, and only ride the full yellow bike on the last stage into Paris.

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      • Secret_squirrel
        June 28, 2021 at 2:32 pm
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        Cool!  Thanks for the nice

        Cool!  Thanks for the nice info!

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  3. Nigel Garrage
    June 28, 2021 at 1:02 pm
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    Great thread from twitter by

    Great thread from twitter by Daniel Hamilton – thanks for sharing, and a shame that he was visited by the anti-helmet (or “polystyrene hat”) Twitter mob shortly after posting. However, he took it in his stride and overall this is the kind of positive action that will help encourage others to do the same.

    Some more good news articles such as this would be most welcome!

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  4. Global Nomad
    June 28, 2021 at 1:21 pm
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    obviously hope that Thomas

    obviously hope that Thomas and others who crashed are ok…..but…..i think bad luck is not a sufficient explanation…you make your own (bad) luck to a significant degree –  no one else seems to fall as often as he does. 

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    • Kapelmuur
      June 28, 2021 at 1:55 pm
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      Global Nomad wrote:

      obviously hope that Thomas and others who crashed are ok…..but…..i think bad luck is not a sufficient explanation…you make your own (bad) luck to a significant degree –  no one else seems to fall as often as he does. 

      — Global Nomad

      So Thomas has a magical attraction to dislodged bidons?

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    • alansmurphy
      June 28, 2021 at 2:10 pm
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      Absolute rubbish. The water

      Absolute rubbish. The water bottle that did for him last time was unavoidable, if this is a repeat then likely the same. Was it Barguil that used G as a crash barrier on a sharp right downhill at a previous Tour and took him over the side.

       

      You’ll see many riders demonstrating skills to avoid a crash, some great holds when it gets a bit loose on a corner. Suggesting because a rider has had a few incidents that he’s a bit lacking on talent is very shortsighted.

       

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      • Global Nomad
        June 28, 2021 at 3:14 pm
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        all riders have strengths and

        all riders have strengths and weaknesses, at pro level they are unbelievably talented….but…its no good being at the top if you keep making errors…all riders come off for unavoidable reasons, but others also come off for errors of judgement or technique….

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    • Velophaart_95
      June 28, 2021 at 2:32 pm
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      It’s not bad luck when he

      It’s not bad luck when he keeps falling off – once or twice, then yes. I’m not sure what the issue is, but there is a pattern; he falls off alarmingly regular. 

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      • Dave Dave
        June 28, 2021 at 3:17 pm
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        The pattern is called a

        The pattern is called a statistical fluke. Averages are averages, not numbers that every individual conforms to. Some riders will be lucky, some unlucky, if crashes are completely random.

        There is no reason to think GT has a particularly notable record of crashing particularly often. He’s just been unlucky about when it’s happened.

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