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Wales’ 20mph speed limit debate on Talk TV with Donnachadh McCarthy
Wales' 20mph speed limit debate on Talk TV with Donnachadh McCarthy (CC licensed by EdinburghGreens via Flickr) (Image Credit: CC licensed by EdinburghGreens via Flickr)

“Tory proposal to kill more people”: Cycling campaigner slams Conservative’s attempt to reverse 20mph speed limit in Wales; Evenepoel’s mind games with Pogačar and Van der Poel; Could cyclocross come to 2030 Winter Olympics? + more on the live blog

It’s Friday and we’re in touching distance of the weekend — and maybe some sunny rides too… Adwitiya’s your live blog host for the day with all the cycling news, views and more
  • by Adwitiya Pal
Fri, Sep 27, 2024 08:59
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SUMMARY

  • “I only like cyclists when they get run over,” says controversial Italian politician and Giorgia Meloni supporter, as pro “I only like cyclists when they get run over,” says controversial Italian politician
  • Lachlan Morton spares some time to save an injured bird on his 14,2000km 'Lap of Australia' ride (he's into 10k+ kms now!)
  • Family of teenage cyclist seriously injured in crash want world championships to continue, as organisers say they are “extremely concerned” about Swiss rider who remains in “very critical” condition
  • Some more benefits of Wales' 20mph speed limits: Delays in meeting Tory leadership hopeful James Cleverly
  • David Lappartient confirms that the UCI will officially propose to the IOC for cyclocross to be included in 2030 Winter Olympics
  • The mind games are on: Remco Evenepoel says pressure could force Tadej Pogačar into making a mistake at UCI Worlds road race, also claiming Van der Poel has a small disadvantage due to his weight
  • 🤩 Tadej Pogačar's new Colnago before Worlds
  • David Attenborough encourages boy to stage anti-cycle lane protest, as veteran broadcaster weighs in on plans to “sacrifice 26 irreplaceable trees” for new bike route
  • Swiss teenage cyclist Muriel Furrer, seriously injured in junior women’s road race at world championships, passes
  • "The Record Man and his Bike"
  • "We want every child to be able to feel safe and confident in being able to cycle to school": Louise Haigh and Chris Boardman visit Bikeability training session to encourage children cycling to school
  • “Those are great stats!”: Cycling campaigner shuts down TalkTV debate over 20mph speed limits, claiming “Tory proposal to kill more people in Wales” getting quashed is “good news”
Wales’ 20mph speed limit debate on Talk TV with Donnachadh McCarthy
Wales' 20mph speed limit debate on Talk TV with Donnachadh McCarthy (CC licensed by EdinburghGreens via Flickr) (Image Credit: CC licensed by EdinburghGreens via Flickr)
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27 September 2024, 08:59

“I only like cyclists when they get run over,” says controversial Italian politician and Giorgia Meloni supporter, as pro “I only like cyclists when they get run over,” says controversial Italian politician

Vittorio Feltri and Milan hire bike
Vittorio Feltri and Milan hire bike (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Vittorio Feltri and Milan hire bike
Vittorio Feltri and Milan hire bike (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Prominent and controversial Italian politician and journalist Vittorio Feltri has been roundly condemned by the cycling community in Italy, including Tour de France stage winner and former European champion Matteo Trentin, after telling an event organised by his Il Giornale newspaper this week that “I only like cyclists when they get run over”.

The highly inflammatory comments came on what would have Michele Scarponi’s 45th birthday, and over seven years since the Giro d’Italia winner was killed while out on a training ride by a van driver who allegedly admitted to prosecutors that he had been watching a video on his mobile phone at the time of the fatal collision.

Read more: > “I only like cyclists when they get run over,” says controversial Italian politician and Giorgia Meloni supporter, as pro cyclist blasts “disgraceful” anti-cycling comments

27 September 2024, 08:59

Lachlan Morton spares some time to save an injured bird on his 14,2000km 'Lap of Australia' ride (he's into 10k+ kms now!)

The big news of the day coming from Down Under isn’t that Lachlan Morton, the EF Education-Easy Post rider attempting to break Dave Alley’s around-Australia ride record, has ticked over 10,000km, but that he even found himself some time to save an injured bird — and that too, somehow in EF’s pink colours!

The Australian cyclist has been averaging over 400 kilometres a day for the last three weeks, as the team’s aim of finishing the ride around the country in 35 days — two days faster than Alley’s effort in 2011, seems to be over in just 31 days if Morton keeps this pace up. That is, assuming he doesn’t do a Derek Gee and indulge himself in too much birdwatching.

 
 
 
 
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The bird seemed to a cockatoo of some sort (sorry, your live blog host’s ornithology skills are rather limited), and EF Education shared a clip of the bird-saving act on Instagram writing: “Lachlan spotted an injured bird during his ride and the crew stopped to move the new friend into a safer location. Animal control was also contacted to pick up the bird for treatment.”

> Is this the new Cannondale Synapse? After Lachlan Morton’s most astonishing ‘Lap of Australia’ effort yet, here’s what we know about his new bike so far

Fans didn’t miss out on noticing the cockatoo’s pink plumage, with EF tagging Rapha and saying: “Think we have some kit inspo for next year?”

You can follow Morton’s ‘Lap of Australia’ ride here.

27 September 2024, 08:59

Family of teenage cyclist seriously injured in crash want world championships to continue, as organisers say they are “extremely concerned” about Swiss rider who remains in “very critical” condition

Muriel Furrer, 2024 world junior road race championships (Alex Whitehead/SWpix.com)
SWpix (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Muriel Furrer, 2024 world junior road race championships (Alex Whitehead/SWpix.com)
SWpix (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

The road world championships in Zurich will go ahead as planned today, the UCI has confirmed, after the family of an 18-year-old Swiss cyclist seriously injured in a crash during yesterday’s junior women’s road race told the organisers that they wished for the event to continue.

> Family of teenage cyclist seriously injured in crash want world championships to continue, as organisers say they are “extremely concerned” about Swiss rider who remains in “very critical” condition

27 September 2024, 08:59

Some more benefits of Wales' 20mph speed limits: Delays in meeting Tory leadership hopeful James Cleverly

Tory leadership hopeful…🫠

In just 3 months the 20mph change saw:

Total number of casualties down 26%.

Number killed/seriously injured fall 23% .

Those killed fall 55% .

Slight injuries down 27%.

Other benefits appear to include delays in meeting James Cleverly. https://t.co/8DAxSfM1TO

— Will Hayward (@WillHayCardiff) September 26, 2024

27 September 2024, 08:59

David Lappartient confirms that the UCI will officially propose to the IOC for cyclocross to be included in 2030 Winter Olympics

At the the 193rd UCI Congress being held today in Zürich, David Lappartient, the president of the UCI has reportedly confirmed that the cycling’s governing body supports the inclusion of cyclocross in the Winter Olympics and will officially submit its candidacy to the International Olympic Committee from the 2030 Games, supposed to take place in the French Alps.

Lappartient said: “We would like to propose to the International Olympic Committee and the French Alps Committee, which will organise the 2030 Winter Olympic Games, that cyclocross could join the Olympic programme, it would be a wonderful symbol.

“Cyclocross was born in France, a little over a century ago , stressed the UCI President. Even if it is only a hypothesis today, we think that it would be a wonderful asset for the Winter Olympic Games.”

Wout van Aerts wins Benidorm round of the 2023/24 UCI Cyclocross World Cup (Zubiko/SWpix.com)
SWpix (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Wout van Aerts wins Benidorm round of the 2023/24 UCI Cyclocross World Cup (Zubiko/SWpix.com)
SWpix (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Rumours of this happening have been circulating for over ten years now, with many media outlets reporting the possibility of the sport becoming a part of the Winter Olympic Games in 2030 looking stronger this year. Now with this confirmation from the UCI president — who’s also touted to be aiming for the role of the next IOC Chair — reported by French news website Direct Velo, it seems that we could be getting closer to seeing the likes of Fem Van Empel and Wout van Aert race in the Alps in 2030.

27 September 2024, 08:59

The mind games are on: Remco Evenepoel says pressure could force Tadej Pogačar into making a mistake at UCI Worlds road race, also claiming Van der Poel has a small disadvantage due to his weight

We’re just one sleep away from perhaps the two most awaited races as the 2024 road cycling calendar edges closer to its conclusion: the women’s and men’s elite road races in Zürich which will determine which two riders don the rainbow jerseys for the next year.

And in the men’s event, supposed to take place on Sunday, competition is rife, with the triumvirate of Mathieu van der Poel, the defending champion, Remco Evenepoel, double gold-medallist at the Paris Olympics, and Tadej Pogačar, the first cyclist to do a Giro-Tour double since Marco Pantani in 1998 — all laying a claim on the rainbow stripes, with several others such as Biniam Girmay, Stevie Wiliams, and Tom Pidcock,  also hoping for a shot at victory.

And ahead of the race, Remco Evenepoel, speaking in Belgium’s pre-race press conference, has already kicked off the mind-games, saying that Pogačar will be more susceptible to making a mistake owing to the expectations and pressure levied on him, while Evenepoel has already defended his time trial world championship earlier this week.

“Maybe that will cause some extra stress for Pogačar, which could cause him to make a mistake or take a bit more risk than someone else,” he said. “But I think that he is so strong this year, that this will not be the case right away and that he has so much confidence in himself that he can win the race even without a top day.”

“The most important thing will be to always be well-positioned as a team on the steepest part of the local laps. Because that’s where we have to squeeze… Although that won’t be the case in the final laps either… But with Tiesj Benoot, Jasper Stuyven, Tim Wellens, Maxim Van Gils, Laurens De Plus and myself, I’m not immediately afraid that we’ll be blown away there quickly.

Belgian website In de Leiderstrui reports Evenepoel also assessed Van der Poel’s chances at defending his title. He said: “Last time I went on a bike ride with Mathieu [2 or 3 weeks ago], he wasn’t climbing that well. But he’s rider who can peak like no other. He’s heavier than Tadej and me, that’s a small disadvantage for him.”

27 September 2024, 08:59

🤩 Tadej Pogačar's new Colnago before Worlds

 
 
 
 
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27 September 2024, 08:59

David Attenborough encourages boy to stage anti-cycle lane protest, as veteran broadcaster weighs in on plans to “sacrifice 26 irreplaceable trees” for new bike route

Binley Cycleway (Coventry City Council) and Sir David Attenborough (House of Lords)
Binley Cycleway (Coventry City Council) and Sir David Attenborough (House of Lords) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Binley Cycleway (Coventry City Council) and Sir David Attenborough (House of Lords)
Binley Cycleway (Coventry City Council) and Sir David Attenborough (House of Lords) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

A campaign to put an immediate stop to the final phase of a cycle lane project in Coventry has garnered support from an unexpected quarter, after Sir David Attenborough wrote to an 11-year-old boy advising him on how to stage a protest to halt the protected bike lane’s construction and save 26 trees that are earmarked to be felled along the proposed route.

> David Attenborough encourages boy to stage anti-cycle lane protest, as veteran broadcaster weighs in on plans to “sacrifice 26 irreplaceable trees” for new bike route

27 September 2024, 08:59

Swiss teenage cyclist Muriel Furrer, seriously injured in junior women’s road race at world championships, passes

The UCI has just announced that 18-year-old Muriel Furrer, who was involved in a crash and suffered head injuries in the junior women’s road race at world championships, has passed away.

The teenage cyclist was taken to hospital by an emergency helicopter and was reportedly in a very critical condition yesterday.

The statement from the cycling’s governing body said: “It is with great sadness that the Union Cycliste Internationale (UCI) and the Organising Committee of the 2024 UCI Road and Para-cycling Road World Championships in Zurich (Switzerland) today learned the tragic news of the death of young Swiss cyclist Muriel Furrer.

“With the passing of Muriel Furrer, the international cycling community loses a rider with a bright future ahead of her. The 18-year-old rider fell heavily yesterday, Thursday 26 September, during the Women Junior road race, and suffered a serious head injury before being flown to hospital by helicopter in a very critical condition. Muriel Furrer sadly passed away today at Zurich University Hospital.”

“The UCI and the Organising Committee of the 2024 UCI Road and Para-cycling Road World Championships offer their sincere condolences to Muriel Furrer’s family, friends and her Federation Swiss Cycling.”

Our thoughts and prayers with Furrer and her family.

27 September 2024, 08:59

"The Record Man and his Bike"

 
 
 
 
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27 September 2024, 08:59

"We want every child to be able to feel safe and confident in being able to cycle to school": Louise Haigh and Chris Boardman visit Bikeability training session to encourage children cycling to school

Transport Secretary Louise Haigh and Active Travel Commissioner for England joined forces to visit a Bikeability training session in Preston, where kids were learning how to cycle safely to their schools.

Haigh said: “We want every child to be able to feel safe and confident in being able to cycle to school. But for too many, they just don’t have the confidence in navigating the roads, or they don’t have the infrastructure and the routes to be able to get them threre. That’s why Bikeability is really important in delivering that confidence and encouraging safety in those routes to school.

Bikeability is the world’s largest cycle training and road safety programme that’s owned and funded by the UK Government. According to data, secen out of 10 parents recognise the importance of cycle training, and four out of five children said they wanted to travel to school by walking, wheeling or cycling. The children, speaking in the video, said that cycling makes them feel “faster, freer and elevated”.

“We want every child to be able to feel safe and confident in being able to cycle to school”@LouHaigh and @Chris_Boardman visited children in Preston to watch their @BikeabilityUK training session this #CycleToSchoolWeek 🚲 pic.twitter.com/MzIVvkxWz1

— Active Travel England (@activetraveleng) September 27, 2024

Chris Boardman said: “Riding a bike isn’t just an activity, it’s transport independence for our kids.” Emily Cherry, the Bikeability Trust’s Chief Executive, followed: “Not only that, it’s fantastic for their health, their mental health, well-being, for physical activity.”

Haigh said: “It keeps them connected with the community, it means that they’re getting out of their cars… It’s a really important activity as long as it’s safe.”

Boardman said: “I’d like England to be a place where every child in the country has access to safe space and has the capability to use it through training like this. And I think that is well within our grasp.”

The video, uploaded by Active Travel England on social media, has been received positively who called it a “good step” and a “change of direction from the previous government”. Liz Clements wrote: “Made my day to see this, cycling is so definitely a skill for life, as the kids say it gives you freedom and is such a mood-lifter!”

Chris Boardman wrote on Twitter: “Why ride? ‘I feel more free’ says it all really. Eighty per cent of kids want to walk, ride and wheel to school. I think any civilised society has a duty to enable them to do that. Thanks to Louise Haigh for highlighting the importance of what is a life skill.”

27 September 2024, 08:59

“Those are great stats!”: Cycling campaigner shuts down TalkTV debate over 20mph speed limits, claiming “Tory proposal to kill more people in Wales” getting quashed is “good news”

“Donnie, the madman!” was the jubilant exclamation, presumably from many cyclists as Donnachadh McCarthy, founder of Stop Killing Cyclists and director of Climate Media Coalition, appeared on TalkTV to debate 20mph speed limits, kicking off the segment with a sly but effective statement: “It’s nice to be on your programme with some good news that the Tory proposal to kill more people in Wales was defeated.”

McCarthy, author of books such as The Prostitute State and Easy Eco-Auditing, was of course, referring to the latest attempt by Welsh Conservatives to table a bill calling for the reversal of the 20mph speed limits enacted in the country last year and reinstate the 30mph speed limits, but was quite handily defeated in the Senedd, with Plaid and Labour members overwhelmingly voting to reject the proposal, arguing the policy was helping improve road safety.

And while some (looking at you, regular blog readers) might believe that the whole 20mph debate is getting a bit outdated, it’s perhaps worth noting that after a year of being in place, new and relevant data is finally coming out showing that the speed limits have indeed been effective.

> “Every casualty reduced makes a difference”: Significant drop in casualties on Welsh roads since 20mph speed limit

How effective? Let’s go back to McCarthy for the figures (taken from 2024, and compared with the same period last year without the speed limits) which he stated on TalkTV…

“Casualties are down 32 per cent… Fatalities are down 54 per cent — that means 24 families will not be burying their loved ones… 20 per cent drops in insurance claims, so insurance will hopefully not have to go up for people, 40 per cent drop in noise.

“The 32 per cent reduction in casualties means that the police, the ambulances and the fire brigades have to tend to 32 per cent less crashes. I don’t know about you, but I always feel for the people who have to tend roadside crashes and the trauma that — not just the families and the victims go through — but the emergency service workers go through.”

According to figures published on the Welsh government’s website, the total number of casualties on all roads during Q1 of 2024 was 811 (16 deaths, 188 serious injuries and 607 slight injuries), down 17 per cent on the previous quarter (982) and 16 per cent lower than in the same quarter in 2023 (968). That final comparison is the most significant when considering the impact of widespread 20mph speed limits, the introduction of a default 20mph speed limit coming in September 2023 and increasing the approximate 870km of 20mph roads to 13,000km.

Host Julia Hartley-Brewer proceeded to say: “We all want to see fewer people killed and maimed on the roads, but it’s a trade-off. But why is this policy so unpopular in Wales?”

McCarthy replied: “Because there’s a massive disconnect between what the media have been saying and actually the outcomes of it. I assure you, as somebody who deals with this and as a cycling campaigner, the Daily Mail has raged a massive campaign against this, and I don’t understand why Ted Verity [Daily Mail editor] cannot look at what we have to look at and have empathy for the families whose lives are safe.”

“This is good news for Wales and what really should happen is these statistics say, ‘We should apply to Britain.’ Every single residential and rural area in Britain deserves safety.”

> “Far more pleasant for walkers and cyclists”: 20mph speed limit analysis hailed “astonishing”, with drivers’ journeys just 45 seconds longer

In fact, just this month, a new road safety survey found that 60 per cent think that all roads throughout the city should have a 20mph speed limit, while 70 per cent of Londoners believed that more Low Traffic Neighbourhoods or liveable streets schemes should be introduced in the capital.

27 September 2024, 08:59

Swiss cyclist Muriel Furrer is in a “very critical condition” after suffering a serious head injury in a crash during today’s junior women’s road race at the UCI world championships in Zurich, the sport’s governing body has announced.

18-year-old cyclist Muriel Furrer tragically dies after suffering serious head injury in crash during junior women’s road race at world championships

18-year-old cyclist Muriel Furrer tragically dies after suffering serious head injury in crash during junior women’s road race at world championships

The Swiss cyclist was airlifted to hospital after crashing heavily during Thursday’s junior women’s road race

27 September 2024, 08:59

Full report of the tragic news from Zürich...

18-year-old cyclist Muriel Furrer tragically dies after suffering serious head injury in crash during junior women’s road race at world championships

18-year-old cyclist Muriel Furrer tragically dies after suffering serious head injury in crash during junior women’s road race at world championships

The Swiss cyclist was airlifted to hospital after crashing heavily during Thursday’s junior women’s road race

27 September 2024, 08:59

Cyclist who punched and killed pensioner during pavement cycling row, before “cowardly” trying to flee scene, jailed for five years

Cyclist who punched and killed pensioner during pavement cycling row, before “cowardly” trying to flee scene, jailed for five years

Cyclist Nathan Piling angrily confronted Michael Dawson after the 78-year-old spoke to him about riding his bike on the footpath

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Adwitiya joined road.cc in 2023 as a news writer after completing his masters in journalism from Cardiff University, working on the news team for two years before embarking on a PhD. His masters dissertation focused on active travel, which soon threw him into the deep end of covering everything related to the two-wheeled tool, and now cycling is as big a part of his life as guitars and football. He has previously covered local and national politics for Voice Cymru, and also likes to write about science, tech and the environment, if he can find the time. Living right next to the Taff trail in the Welsh capital, you can find him trying to tackle the brutal climbs in the valleys.  

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  1. alexuk
    September 27, 2024 at 9:53 am
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    Its mad isn’t it. So much

    Its mad isn’t it. So much hate gets thrown at cyclists. Don’t get me wrong, there’s a lot of di**s out there on 2-wheels, but wishing death! …these people are sick, the average politician is sick.

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  2. OnYerBike
    September 27, 2024 at 10:32 am
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    Quote:

    The bird seemed to a cockatoo of some sort (sorry, your live blog host’s ornithology skills are rather limited)

    Mine aren’t much better when it comes to antipodean birds, but with a bit of help from google the birds in question appears to be a Galah (which is indeed a type of cockatoo).

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    • Kendalred
      September 27, 2024 at 1:53 pm
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      Thankfully not flaming

      Thankfully not flaming

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      • ktache
        September 27, 2024 at 6:39 pm
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        Nice!

        Nice!

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  3. billymansell
    September 27, 2024 at 11:11 am
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    JHB, “between 20mph roads and

    JHB, “between 20mph roads and 30mph roads there was absolutely no air quality difference..”.

    Grrrr, it makes me mad. Why won’t the air from 30mph roads stay in 30mph roads?

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    • the little onion
      September 27, 2024 at 11:27 am
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      Depends what type of

      Depends what type of pollution. Nitrogen compounds travel miles, some particulates drop off after a few metres. Hence there really is a difference on a micro scale.

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  4. Steve K
    September 27, 2024 at 11:34 am
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    I’m pretty sure the

    I’m pretty sure the motorbrains keep arguing that 20mph zones would increase air pollution, so we should be celebrating no change as disproving this objection.

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    • OldRidgeback
      September 27, 2024 at 12:51 pm
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      About half of my 17 mile

      About half of my 17 mile commute by motorbike to the office is along South London’s South Circular, which now has a 20mph speed limit (the cycle- friendly route is about 20 miles, a bit much for a daily commute for me). It took a bit of retraining for me to trundle along at 20mph on my sportsbike I admit. But what I’ve noticed is that I get better fuel economy, at least 8 miles more from a tank of fuel and sometimes quite a bit more. The key issue is that the lower speed limits mean less acceleration, which is what really burns fuel. And less fuel consumption means fewer exhaust emissions and less pollution. Any driver who moans about increased fuel consumption because of the lower speed limits isn’t driving properly.

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      • giff77
        September 27, 2024 at 4:58 pm
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        I have some vague memory

        I have some vague memory going back 20 years or so during the petrol strikes that numerous people were commenting on improved fuel economy as a result of their driving no longer including harsh acceleration and braking. Who’d have guessed it! 

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        • ktache
          September 27, 2024 at 6:35 pm
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          That and the lack of traffic.

          That and the lack of traffic. Amazing the proportion of people that managed to save their precious fuel for when it was really needed.

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      • ktache
        September 27, 2024 at 6:32 pm
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        Unless there’s some form of

        Unless there’s some form of regenerative braking then all that hard won acceleration becomes waste heat.

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  5. NickSprink
    September 27, 2024 at 11:45 am
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    “Wales I’m coming for you”

    “Wales I’m coming for you” doesnt sound like a good thing for an English politician to say 

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  6. kinderje
    September 27, 2024 at 12:09 pm
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    Man that wants to govern the

    Man that wants to govern the country can’t calculate travel time based on local speed limits – Tory shocker!!!

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  7. eburtthebike
    September 27, 2024 at 12:24 pm
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    Donnachadh McCarthy:

    Donnachadh McCarthy: brilliant! 

    It is clear that the msm doesn’t care about how many people are killed and maimed on the roads, as long as they can drive as fast as they like wherever they like.  They are the apex of motonormativity, and any view other than that of the driver is irrelevant to them.

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  8. eburtthebike
    September 27, 2024 at 12:26 pm
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    “I only like cyclists when

    .

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  9. NotNigel
    September 27, 2024 at 1:01 pm
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    https://www.uci.org

    https://www.uci.org/pressrelease/the-cycling-world-mourns-the-loss-of-muriel-furrer/7pTb39zWjDxIEl9cRRVfCX

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    • SimoninSpalding
      September 27, 2024 at 1:28 pm
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      Such a shame, condolences to

      Such a shame, condolences to those close to her.

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  10. GMBasix
    September 27, 2024 at 1:12 pm
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    Ah, Julia Hardly-Worthit,

    Ah, Julia Hardly-Worthit, bless her polemic socks… any more viewers and she’ll be able to monetise on YouTube!

    And she has the cheek to interrupt McCarthy as if he’s going on too long.

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    • GMBasix
      September 27, 2024 at 1:34 pm
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      Julia Barely-Sentient wrote:

      “The interesting thing of course is actually in the stats on road deaths, actually speed is actually not one of the biggest factors [splutter splutter] interestingly in actually reasons why accidents happen as other human error, but we’ll have to leave it there…”

      — Julia Barely-Sentient

      … because you might just come back with some of your irritating facts that debunk my prejudice-forming comments entirely. for example, pointing out that the Met Police revised its 2020 figure of 20% (speeding a contributory factor) to 46.8%. GMP has revised its figure from 15% to 65% [https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/358022/speeding-be-recorded-cause-many-more-car-accidents].

      Just as the government wants to introduce a requirement for honesty from public officials, post Hillsborough, so we should demand much greater accountability from journalists* to behave with a modicum of integrity. (*broad definition)

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  11. mitsky
    September 27, 2024 at 1:21 pm
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    Well at least James Cleverly

    Well at least James Cleverly is cleverly wearing his seatbelt whilst in a moving vehicle and recording the clip.

    Unlike our previous PM who got fined for not doing so…

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    • eburtthebike
      September 27, 2024 at 4:50 pm
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      mitsky wrote:

      Well at least James Cleverly is cleverly wearing his seatbelt whilst in a moving vehicle and recording the clip.

      — mitsky

      Sometimes, it’s as if “Cleverly” was intentional.  Sometimes.

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      • belugabob
        September 29, 2024 at 6:44 pm
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        It had to happen, sooner or
        It had to happen, sooner or later.

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  12. Britonabike
    September 27, 2024 at 1:34 pm
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    Surprised that noise was
    Surprised that noise was reduced by 40% what with all the motorists incessantly sighing and moaning throughout their entire journey.

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  13. mitsky
    September 27, 2024 at 3:47 pm
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    Presumably the likes of JHB

    Presumably the likes of JHB are ok with the increased KSIs that would happen if 30mph was reintroduced with negligible benefit to journey times.
    Not to mention the delays caused from colllisions by dangerous drivers, as DM said many of whom would end up going over 30mph anway.
    And the increased NHS costs etc dealing with each collision.
    And the increase in insurance costs which gets spread out amongst all drivers due to the dangerous minority…

    Anything else…?

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    • chrisonabike
      September 27, 2024 at 2:03 pm
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      Ah, but “accidents will

      Ah, but “accidents will always happen” and then there are no doubt plenty of ways to do the sums that show that everyone ends up with more money if people have the ability to go 10mph faster on some roads than if not.  (*mutter price of everything value of nothing … but I’m about 200 2000 years too late with that comment*).

      It’s just expectations – no doubt if we’d reached the world of the future back in the 50s and 60s she’d be explaining that overall we shouldn’t be changing rules relating to jet-packs / hover boards.  Yes some people are dying every year by falling out of the sky and others are killed when people fall on them but overall everyone has to fly to get from A to B.  It doesn’t make sense to impose artificial velocity limits on the sky at variance with “natural” speed / height limits which most people will obey (which is in no way related to historic regulations or the performance designed by manufacturers of jet-packs) etc.

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  14. IanMK
    September 27, 2024 at 4:02 pm
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    So Julia Hartley-Brewer
    So, let’s get this straight, Julia Hartley-Brewer supports 20mph speed limits on residential streets. Isn’t that where they predominantly are? Has she ever been to Wales? Sure there may be some industrial estates that were 30mph and are now 20mph. I’m happy for the local council to review those and put them back to 30mph if they think it’s safe. It seems like Julia is on the same page as me. If there’s a residence, school, hospital etc on the street make it 20mph. Sorted.

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  15. NOtotheEU
    September 27, 2024 at 4:05 pm
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    Just read about the Just Stop
    Just read about the Just Stop oil protesters getting sentenced today, the judge said;

    “Section 63 of the sentencing code requires me, in assessing the seriousness of your offending, to consider not only the harm your offence caused, but also the harm it might foreseeably have caused”

    Funny how that’s never come up in any case against a driver for hitting (or nearly hitting) a cyclist, I wonder why?

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    • john_smith
      September 27, 2024 at 6:52 pm
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      Don’t motorists ever get into

      Don’t motorists ever get into trouble for close-passing cyclists even if no one is hit and no one falls off?

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      • wtjs
        September 27, 2024 at 7:32 pm
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        Don’t motorists ever get into
        Don’t motorists ever get into trouble for close-passing cyclists even if no one is hit and no one falls off?

        Nope! Not in my experience

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      • NOtotheEU
        September 27, 2024 at 8:02 pm
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        Sometimes (depending on where
        Sometimes (depending on where you live) but a driving course or 3 points when potentially they could have killed someone is pretty trivial.

        I was talking more about the drivers who end up in court for driving at or purposely hitting one of us. No judge has ever said “you could have killed them so I’m increasing your sentence” but apparently they are required to by section 63 of the sentencing code. It’s not something I’d ever heard of until today.

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    • quiff
      September 27, 2024 at 7:01 pm
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      I understand your cynicism,

      I understand your cynicism, but it clearly it does come up because there are prosecutions (albeit fewer than I’m sure we would like) for close passes. The Sentencing Code applies to all offences and the Sentecning Guideline for dangerous driving recognises two levels of harm – (1) injury or property damage caused; (2) all other cases. The second category covers it.   

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  16. RM
    September 28, 2024 at 11:16 am
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    Lachlan’s pink bird is a

    Lachlan’s pink bird is a Galah, a type of Cockatoo
    Galah – Wikipedia

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  17. belugabob
    September 29, 2024 at 7:06 pm
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    James (not so) Cleverly – it
    James (not so) Cleverly – it’s not 20mph “everywhere”. There’s the M4, for a start…

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  18. don simon fbpe
    September 30, 2024 at 7:25 am
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    James Cleverley, just another

    James Cleverley, just another lying right winger… #wancyr

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wtjs 9 minutes ago

another Mail reader said: “She was swaying from left to right with each turn of her pedals. She was an accident waiting to happen” I'm surprised nobody else has yet commented about this aspect of what the unsurprisingly repellent Mail reader wrote: most of us sway with each pedal stroke, to varying degrees. The stabilisation setting on much camera video (almost all of mine) minimises the apparent degree of sway. There was nothing remarkable about Ms Tanton's cycling, yet exceedingly stupid and malevolent (forgive the tautology) expletive-deleted Mail Reader views this as an excuse for the ******* driver and an 'it's her own fault' comment because a cyclist just being on the road is enough for those b******s and for our very own loathsome trolls. Many of us, including me, would have been further out from the road edge, and could well have been even more horrifically injured as a result. Make no mistake: chance alone has protected those of us who have so far been lucky enough to evade such an assault from an unrepentant driver untroubled by his joke suspended sentence. She is forced to rely on the civil court for recompense and the punishment and justice which should have resulted from the criminal court case. I hope it's a massive settlement!

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SVXY 55 minutes ago

@SVXY Rape has always been a serious indictable only offence and it was right the marital exemption was removed. Careless driving even now remains only a summary offence, careless driving causing serious injury is now an either way offence but that is to do with the outcome. The offence remains careless driving not with intent like rape. Yes he should have slowed down but there is no evidence he saw the cyclist in which case he likely would have. Cyclists who choose to ride on 60mph limit roads could also help themselves by wearing high viz, not wearing sandals and ensuring they don’t ride 4 abreast

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Deveron53 1 hour ago

I live in Scotland (smug mode initiated).

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Deveron53 1 hour ago

@james-o A great philosopher once said: "naughty naughty, very naughty!"

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Deveron53 1 hour ago

@mjvande@pacbell.net TLDR typical Septic thinking the USA is the World. This is the UK, you know, the place without the guns.

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belugabob 4 hours ago

@wtjs just because I feel the need to ask, doesn't mean that I expect a rational answer - it was more of a rhetorical question (hence the roll-eyes)

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belugabob 4 hours ago

@chrisonabike yes, those would be suitable approaches for the hard of thinking...we need to know who those folks are 😉

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Rendel Harris 7 hours ago

@SVXY Yeah....it wasn't illegal for a husband to rape his wife until 1991, does that mean it's not really bad now because it used not to be an offence? Dick has been punished under the law as it stood at the time of his offence and whining that the law used not to be so strict is ridiculous. As for the rest of your drivel, it's amazing how you appear not only to have been present but actually inside his head to know exactly what happened. "Had he seen her clearly he would not have driven so close to her would he and slowed down" - I should think every cyclist on this forum has experience of drivers who have seen them and not slowed down and driven as close as possible. There has been plenty of evidence here and elsewhere that a significant proportion of driving instructors have contempt for and frustration with cyclists, it's just as feasible that he enjoys doing punishment passes on cyclists and simply misjudged this one. As for "He did not do an illegal manoeuvre forbidden by signage on that road", shouldn't you make a beeping noise when you back up like that? You've gone from "he didn't make an illegal manoeuvre" to "there wasn't actually a sign forbidding his illegal manoeuvre". Hilarious. I suppose if he'd been drunk you'd be saying there wasn't a sign saying "don't drive drunk on this stretch of road"? I'm afraid your desperation to defend a person who has ruined a woman's life by committing a serious criminal offence either through staggering incompetence and negligence or a misjudged act of malice has made you look extremely stupid.

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Aluminium can 12 hours ago

Well okay then. The spread of 270 degrees means there is no way to avoid having it blasting you in the eyes. I use a knog cobber front light with 270 degree spread and there's no way I'd put it on my handlebars.

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wtjs 14 hours ago

@belugabob I fear that you ask too much of the pair of pathetic sad git trolls infesting this topic. They clearly derive some suspicious stimulation from supporting stupid and offensive anti-cyclist positions and hoping for vituperative responses which gain them even further stimulation.

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