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Cyclists "drive motorists somewhat insane", claims councillor; LTNs 'need time to settle'; Tokyo broken bar probe begins; Kangaroo rescued by cyclists caught attacking cyclist; Brighton bike lane debate; Gravel champs reaction + more on the live blog

It's Thursday and Jack Sexty is your live blogger today for old time's sake. Bear with me, I'm a little rusty.....
23 September 2021, 15:21
North Yorkshire councillor says cyclists "drive motorists somewhat insane" in anti-cyclist bingo game at road safety meeting
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It's widely known that Yorkshire experienced a boom in recreational cycling after the 2014 Tour de France depart, and again during the 2019 UCI Road World Championships; and ahead of North Yorkshire County Council approving the York and North Yorkshire Road Safety Partnership Strategy for 2021-26, some opposition councillors have been sharing their opinions on how cyclists and motorists can co-exist. Not all of those opinions were fact-based, unfortunately... 

The Yorkshire Post reports that some members wanted to know what could be done to resolve "escalating" conflict between cyclists and motorists in rural areas, and the anti-cyclist bingo game began with the introduction of Cllr Stuart Parsons: 

Cyclists were “making themselves a great number of potential enemies and therefore dangerous situations by their approach to using the roads, especially when they are not road taxpayers when using it for their cycles," he claimed. 

"Cyclists do drive motorists somewhat insane, especially when they are travelling two or three abreast, which they seem to be doing more and more so. On these winding roads it makes it difficult for anybody to pass safely.”

Road tax and two abreast... not bad! 

The authority said it was already trying to educate drivers and cyclists on sharing the roads. Cllr Don Mackenzie saying that while some cyclists should learn not to “create obstructions on the highway”, cyclists had his sympathies because their vehicle only weighs a few kilograms as opposed to cars weighing up to two tonnes. 

Officers also shared statistics at the meeting to show that cyclists were "at fault for about 70 per cent and drivers 30 per cent of cycle collisions on rural roads", statistics that road.cc will be questioning further with an FOI request to North Yorkshire County Council. 

23 September 2021, 14:48
AusCycling hire plane crash expert as part of investigation into Alex Porter's snapped bars at Tokyo Olympics
argon18 snapped bar

Some of the most memorable moments of the track cycling at the Tokyo Olympics weren't the world records or victories, but strange goings on and incidents such as the Danish tape fiasco, Charlie Tanfield being crashed into and the unfortunate Alex Porter losing his handlebars mid-ride

After some speculation, it turned out that the bars were made by Bastion Cycles rather than Australian team's bike supplier Argon 18. At the time Bastion said it was conducting its own investigations into the failure, and now AusCycling has released details of its own probe into what happened. 

The project lead will be Toni Cumpston, described as "an experienced high-performance executive with a record of success across multiple sports and international sporting systems". Interestingly the lead investigator John Baker is a mechanical and aeronautical engineer "with a particular focus and expertise in fault-finding and investigations, including several aircraft crash investigations."

AusCycling's CEO Marne Fechner said: ‘’At the time we committed to a thorough, independent, and transparent review of what happened, and we’re now well placed to deliver on that promise.

‘’Toni and John are leaders in their respective fields and have the blessing of the AusCycling Board and leadership to find out exactly what happened and what to do to prevent it happening again." 

Full findings are expected to be released before the end of next year - and we'll have a full story on this later today which is expected to be released before teatime. 

23 September 2021, 14:39
4iiii opens UK factory, so you can send your crank off to be fitted with a power meter
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The Canadian tech company now has a UK facility, meaning we can take advantage of its popular factory install service - simply send off your left side Shimano crank to 4iiii, and it will be back with you fitted with one of its Precision power meters a week later. 

The factory install service is priced at £299.99 - find out more here and read our review of the 4iiii Precision power meter here

23 September 2021, 14:34
Are quieter roads upon us?

The good news: a potential fuel crisis could mean quieter roads for cycling on! 
The bad news: small chance we could all freeze or starve to death... 

23 September 2021, 14:32
The reality of cycling to work

If you commute in a built up area, part 2 might look more familiar to you than part 1... 

23 September 2021, 13:37
Vincenzo Nibali returns to Astana

The 36-year-old has returned to the team where he saw his greatest successes, including two Giro d'Italia and one Tour de France titles between 2013 and 2016. 

With no assistance from an Astana PR person whatsoever, Nibali commented: "I am very happy to come back to Team Astana, because for me it is a real family that has given me a lot and together with which I have achieved my greatest successes. I know most of the management and staff of the team, so I will return to the team I know really well. Also I have some very nice memories from visiting Kazakhstan and its capital and it was an unforgettable experience.”

Other than really looking forward to going back to Kazakhstan, do you reckon the The Shark can also look forward to recapturing success at the highest level again now he's back at Astana? 

23 September 2021, 12:44
Grant Shapps on cycle lanes and LTNs: "You've got to allow things to settle before you U-turn on it"

Further to numerous recent stories about councils ripping up cycle lanes and U-turning on LTNs, transport secretary Grant Shapps gave his opinion to the cross-party Transport Committee. 

Asked what his message is to councils and community activists who oppose low traffic neighbourhoods, Shapps said: "We're very keen to not just go back to the world how it was before, we had huge amounts of congestion, lots of pollution even before the pandemic. The pandemic has seen an enormous increase in active travel, such that the country has never seen before. 

"Sometimes they've [councils] tried something and the immediately walked away from it, perhaps actually because they don't realise it takes a while to bed in. 

"...You've got to allow things to settle before you do a U-turn on it." 

"What's often forgotten is that every car you take off the road because somebody decides to walk or cycle is a hell of a lot more road space, and actually helps everybody including the motorist." 

As we discussed in the inaugural episode of the road.cc Podcast with regards to the situation in London, Shapps' words and the general message from the government as outlined in its Gear Change document shows what an unusual time it is for local politics when it comes to active travel. Councils - often Conservative and Labour ones - have fought back against cycle lanes and LTNs on numerous occasions following (what they perceive to be) fierce opposition, while central government is heavily promoting active travel, and instructing councils to build infrastructure that will cut motor vehicle usage. 

23 September 2021, 11:56
Will the beginning of UCI gravel world champs mark the end of peak gravel? Gravel fans are split
Michelin Power Gravel Tyre Fitted

Remember our mini report on the King's Cup, which held its (unofficial) British Gravel Championships the other day? Well barely a day later the UCI has announced that it will be working with the event's organiser Golazo for a UCI-sanctioned gravel world series and world championship next year. 

The UCI says: "From next year, the UCI will organise – in collaboration with events organiser Golazo – a UCI Gravel World Series consisting of events enabling athletes to qualify for the UCI Gravel World Championships. This discipline combines elements of road and mountain bike, and takes place mainly on unsealed roads (gravel, forest tracks, farm roads, cobbles, etc). Races in the UCI World Series will be mass participation events."

Reaction has been mixed, with some saying it's a good thing gravel being brought to the mainstream, others saying it could ruin the scene and some just speculating on the competitors' hipster moustache size. Will you be watching the gravel world champs next year? 

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Other announcements from the UCI's management committee meeting includes continuing commitment to developing women's cycling, the launch of a cyclocross team relay test event and more research into the benefit of ketones for performance enhancement.

The UCI says: "Despite the absence of scientific proof of performance enhancement from ketones, and as part of the UCI’s commitment to an honest and credible sport, the UCI Management Committee – like the Professional Cycling Council at its meeting on 20 September - requested that an additional scientific study be launched to clarify the question.

"While waiting for the results of the study, the UCI recommends riders to refrain from using this substance." 

23 September 2021, 10:43
More news from Canberra... this time it's rubbish bike lanes

We've had a Jekyll and Hyde Kangaroo from Australia's capital, now it's time for a measly five metres of bike lane. This is in reply to a cyclist from Worcester in the UK, who calls this painted bit of unprotected cycle lane as "at best pointless, at worst actively harmful."

For a seriously bad bike lane that's hard to beat, check out this edition of our live blog from back in March. 

23 September 2021, 10:23
The hill climb overlord has spoken

Have you noticed bike brands using this year's world champs to post tasteful photos of their bikes on climbs in Flanders that don't feature on the actual course? Simon Warren, who as the author of numerous books about hills tends to know his stuff about them, isn't happy... 

23 September 2021, 10:03
"It’s on our doorstep": Sadiq Khan shares damning image following Boris Johnson's UN speech

You may have heard or read something about Boris Johnson and Kermit the Frog this morning... which was actually an excerpt from the PM's speech to the UN last night ahead of COP26 in Glasgow next month, in which he said that Kermit was wrong to say it's not easy being green. 

Many politicians have been talking and tweeting about environment-themed things since, with Sadiq Khan reminding us that it's a local problem as well as global. This recent image from London where a solitary cyclist passes huge queues of traffic on Tower Bridge is particularly grabbing, with London's Mayor saying: 

"Climate change is not a problem in far off parts of the world. It’s on our doorstep. It’s our problem too." 

23 September 2021, 08:51
Kangaroo rescued from icy water by cyclists attacks another cyclist later in the day

After the heart-warming footage above showing a kangaroo being rescued from icy waters on Canberra's Lake Burley Griffin, it looks truly grateful for the efforts of the cyclists pulling it to safety. Throwing its arms around one of the men who rescued it, the roo was shivering and seems wholly appreciative. However, footage from later in the day shows a different story... 

@fitbyfrank

Kangaroo beating up a cyclist 😳 welcome to Australia! #Kangaroofight #Streetfight

♬ Gonna Fly Now - Rocky Orchestra

This is reportedly the same roo on the same lake, caught squaring up to a cyclist a few hours later! Francesco Collodi can be heard saying "I can't believe it" at the end of the clip, with the cyclist still not managing to shake off the moody marsupial.

One TikTok user suggested the roo could have come from Melbourne, in the thick of volatile anti-lockdown protests, saying: "The roo just came from Melbourne and learned some bad habits".

Another praised the actions of the cyclist, saying: "I'm delighted to see the cyclist was just trying to redirect the roo, not fighting back necessarily." 

So much for high-vis improving your safety...  

23 September 2021, 08:30
Old Shoreham cycle lane: claims that traffic "exactly the same" following controversial removal

Following the removal of the Old Shoreham Road pop-up cycle lane in Brighton, some have taken to social media in an attempt to show that it hasn't exactly had the desired effect on improving traffic flow.  Adam Bronkhorst took the photo above on World Car Free Day yesterday, claiming traffic is "exactly the same" despite the cycle lane's removal last week. 

Others claim the removal has reduced congestion on side streets at peak times, and that the photo isn't a true representation of the situation. What we do know is that the lane's removal has been extremely controversial, with The Argus reporting that Extinction Rebellion protestors attempted to block the council from ripping it up last week. Local Consersative coucillor Robert Nemeth was 'applauded' by another disgruntled social media user for supporting the lane's removal, simply replying "cheers" to the remark. 

23 September 2021, 10:40
Vodaphone not exactly ahead of the curve on bike tech according to our reviewer
23 September 2021, 08:13
World champs: mini preview of what's coming up, with men's junior and men's U23 road race tomorrow
Ethan Vernon Alex Whitehead:SWpix.com

We're hotting up towards the elite road races at the weekend, and with just exhibition events taking place today, tomorrow it's the turn of the young'uns to show us what could be a glimpse into the future of the pro peloton.

Ethan Vernon (above) goes for Great Britain in the U23 race after finishing 7th in the time trial, joined by fellow promising Brit Lews Askey. There's also a whole load of Dutch talent that could bag a win over the 160km course including the Van Dijke twins Mick and Tim and Jumbo-Visma's 19-year-old talent Olav Kooij. It starts tomorrow at 2.25pm BST. 

The men's junior race will just be confined to the Leuven circuit in Flanders, covering 8 laps for a total distance of 121km, and that kicks off at 7.15am tomorrow morning. Oddly there's no women's U23 event, meaning it's just a 75km junior event on Saturday morning before the elite women go in the afternoon. The elite men's road race is on Sunday. 

Arriving at road.cc in 2017 via 220 Triathlon Magazine, Jack dipped his toe in most jobs on the site and over at eBikeTips before being named the new editor of road.cc in 2020, much to his surprise. His cycling life began during his students days, when he cobbled together a few hundred quid off the back of a hard winter selling hats (long story) and bought his first road bike - a Trek 1.1 that was quickly relegated to winter steed, before it was sadly pinched a few years later. Creatively replacing it with a Trek 1.2, Jack mostly rides this bike around local cycle paths nowadays, but when he wants to get the racer out and be competitive his preferred events are time trials, sportives, triathlons and pogo sticking - the latter being another long story.  

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kingleo | 2 years ago
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 If motorists stopped blocking the sides of the roads with groups of two abreast empty seats the cyclists might take them seriously when they complain about cyclists riding two abreast.

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brooksby replied to kingleo | 2 years ago
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Amen to that!  4

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check12 | 2 years ago
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World champs road race. BBC2 14:40 Sunday (or Eurosport)

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Awavey replied to check12 | 2 years ago
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Mens Elite World champs road race. BBC2 14:40 Sunday (or Eurosport)

Womens Elite world champs road race BBC2 14:00 Saturday (or Eurosport 1 11am)

There, FTFY.

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eburtthebike | 2 years ago
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"The authority said it was already trying to educate drivers."  But they haven't even educated their own councillors!  Cllr Stuart Parsons thinks that road tax still exists and it's illegal to ride two abreast.  Mind you, trying to educate that idiot would tax the best of teachers.

"Officers also shared statistics at the meeting to show that cyclists were "at fault for about 70 per cent and drivers 30 per cent of cycle collisions on rural roads".

I'm so glad road.cc is questioning those figures, because they imply that in the majority of collisions between cyclist/driver, it is the cyclist's fault, whereas official police data shows exactly the opposite, with drivers much more likely to be at fault.  I look forward to reading the officers' explanation, which I'm sure will make perfect sense.  If it turns out that the officers manipulated the figures to make cyclists look bad, they must be disciplined.

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GMBasix replied to eburtthebike | 2 years ago
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eburtthebike wrote:

"The authority said it was already trying to educate drivers."  But they haven't even educated their own councillors!  Cllr Stuart Parsons thinks that road tax still exists and it's illegal to ride two abreast.  Mind you, trying to educate that idiot would tax the best of teachers.

Because they probably know that that is a wall that doesn't need banging with their own heads. You can inform councillors till you're an apolitical shade of blue in the face, if it doesn't suit their particular hobby horse in that moment, it is but an inconvenient buzz in their ear.

eburtthebike wrote:

I'm so glad road.cc is questioning those figures, because they imply that in the majority of collisions between cyclist/driver, it is the cyclist's fault, whereas official police data shows exactly the opposite, with drivers much more likely to be at fault.  I look forward to reading the officers' explanation, which I'm sure will make perfect sense.  If it turns out that the officers manipulated the figures to make cyclists look bad, they must be disciplined.

It is interesting, because I don't think I've seen a split before.  Bear in mind that, even if the figures are based on an analysis of the stats19 data, broken down into rural/urban road types (definition required), and perhaps even analysed for the local area rather than national average, they are based on police giving their view of the causes. If the cause is not clear, or the only evidence is from the survivor, the conclusions may be skewed.  Still, it's the best we've got.

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ktache | 2 years ago
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Bike blog in the hate filled guardian, environmental impact on bicycles

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/bike-blog/2021/sep/23/why-arent-...

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Shake replied to ktache | 2 years ago
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I thought it was a good article. Interesting to see the stats on e-scooters. 

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grumpyoldcyclist | 2 years ago
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Well done Road.cc for taking up the point about the statisctics. Be interesting to compare them with those from WMP perhaps?

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Captain Badger | 2 years ago
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Officers also shared statistics at the meeting to show that cyclists were "at fault for about 70 per cent and drivers 30 per cent of cycle collisions on rural roads", 

I read some stats recently that stated that 75% of recorded cycle incidents were single bike collisions. In that context it might make some sense, only I'm sure it wouldn't paint quite the picture the councillors had hoped

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exilegareth replied to Captain Badger | 2 years ago
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Having done the basic research, which took me about five minutes (OK, I'm a committee wonk, it's part of my job) the troubling part is on p.68 of the committee papers (here) where the officers compiling the report appear to have assigned blame to cyclists for any accident where they have not taken 'action to ensure their mode of travel has followed appropriate safety measures or safety checks have been made, e.g., bicycle safety checks prior to travel and ensuring high visibility is displayed on the journey. '

Victim blaming or what? If you FoI that report, the request should and will be refused - it's already in the public domain, even though some buffoon at the council has tagged the agenda papers as 'Official - Sensitive' - a category of information that doesn't apply to agenda papers in local government. If you just get the raw stats, and don't know that they're based on victim blaming (e.g. not wearing Hi Viz) you may be misled into believing that all those KSI's are the fault of cyclists....

 

 

 

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Steve K replied to exilegareth | 2 years ago
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I'm sure I'm just being dense, but I couldn't find the 70% figure in those papers.

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exilegareth replied to Steve K | 2 years ago
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Nor me - but I did find the victim blaming bit, and I'm willing to bet the price of a new chainring that'll be the explanation of figures that look way out of kilter. The report is woefully light on analysis - there again, it's a strategy, not an in depth analysis, and the preparation of strategies, even when done by officers, relfects the desires of the politicians.

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eburtthebike replied to exilegareth | 2 years ago
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exilegareth wrote:

Having done the basic research, which took me about five minutes (OK, I'm a committee wonk, it's part of my job) the troubling part is on p.68 of the committee papers (here) where the officers compiling the report appear to have assigned blame to cyclists for any accident where they have not taken 'action to ensure their mode of travel has followed appropriate safety measures or safety checks have been made, e.g., bicycle safety checks prior to travel and ensuring high visibility is displayed on the journey. '

Victim blaming or what? If you FoI that report, the request should and will be refused - it's already in the public domain, even though some buffoon at the council has tagged the agenda papers as 'Official - Sensitive' - a category of information that doesn't apply to agenda papers in local government. If you just get the raw stats, and don't know that they're based on victim blaming (e.g. not wearing Hi Viz) you may be misled into believing that all those KSI's are the fault of cyclists....

Thanks for finding that, and while you might be right about your suggestion of where the 70% figure comes from, there are no figures attached to that statement or anywhere else in the document that I can find which support that cyclists are at fault in 70% of collisions.

I've scanned through the document and can find no supporting figures or anything which even vaguely resembles it, but the report itself is woefully inadequate and has serious omissions e.g. p71 Vulnerable groups only mentions motorcyclists, not pedestrians or cyclists.

road.cc is right and the council needs to explain the figures as quoted by council officers at the meeting, as the figures aren't in the report and therefore not in the public domain.

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Captain Badger replied to exilegareth | 2 years ago
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exilegareth wrote:

Having done the basic research, which took me about five minutes (OK, I'm a committee wonk, it's part of my job) the troubling part is on p.68 of the committee papers (here) where the officers compiling the report appear to have assigned blame to cyclists for any accident where they have not taken 'action to ensure their mode of travel has followed appropriate safety measures or safety checks have been made, e.g., bicycle safety checks prior to travel and ensuring high visibility is displayed on the journey. '

Victim blaming or what? If you FoI that report, the request should and will be refused - it's already in the public domain, even though some buffoon at the council has tagged the agenda papers as 'Official - Sensitive' - a category of information that doesn't apply to agenda papers in local government. If you just get the raw stats, and don't know that they're based on victim blaming (e.g. not wearing Hi Viz) you may be misled into believing that all those KSI's are the fault of cyclists....

 

 

 

I don't even know what to say. That's sickening. Thanks for your post

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Sriracha | 2 years ago
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Cllr Don Mackenzie saying that while some cyclists should learn not to “create obstructions on the highway”

Sure, cyclists, that's the problem. If only they drove cars instead then they would not "create obstructions on the highway."

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IanMK replied to Sriracha | 2 years ago
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That made me smile as well. Every night there is a queue of traffic coming in to my town. I'm always appreciative if a driver pulls over a bit to let me filter more safely but it doesn't happen often.

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nniff | 2 years ago
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"The authority said it was already trying to educate drivers and cyclists on sharing the roads. Cllr Don Mackenzie saying that while some cyclists should learn not to “create obstructions on the highway”, cyclists had his sympathies because their vehicle only weighs a few kilograms as opposed to cars weighing up to two tonnes."

I'm on a roll with this theme today - if the objection is creating obstructions on the highway, ban parking on the street.  Fewer cars, more room for the remainder - all good.....

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open_roads | 2 years ago
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Always good to see Sadiq Khan highlighting climate change - the man who requires a fleet of 3 x Range Rovers just to take himself and his dog for a walk in the park less than 1 mile from where he lives.

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IanMK replied to open_roads | 2 years ago
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It would be good to know what personal changes politicians have made to reduce their carbon footprint. It's called leading by example.

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Miller | 2 years ago
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Hey, I was at the King's Cup gravel festival on Sunday and I can tell you the race was an absolute blast. See for yourself, here's a video I put together.

https://youtu.be/eUsVSJFXO2o

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peted76 | 2 years ago
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Kagaroo's are a right bunch of bastards, almost as unruly as squirrels!

 

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Hirsute | 2 years ago
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Not the UK

Pretty much defines entitlement.

https://twitter.com/Choresh2/status/1440435067633819656

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chrisonabike | 2 years ago
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RE: climate emergency etc. Part of the solution - unless you think that this is just a technological fix - is the bald fact of needing to drive less / transport fewer things. However at a cycling advocacy meeting last night I was interested to find the consensus of activists there was that essentially we can't say that. It just shuts down the conversation with most people e.g. everyone not reading this forum.  So when engaging you have to keep emphasis largely on positive changes e.g. not "we can't have parking outside the school (because you are the problem)" but "isn't it great when you can hear each other chat / you're not dodging traffic with your kids?".

Luckily consensus-building applies less on internet forums.

Just politics I guess. Does remind me of those games where you have to convey something without saying the actual words though.

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IanMK replied to chrisonabike | 2 years ago
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The inconvenient truth is that the 10% of highest earners on the planet are responisible for 50% of carbon emissions. To be in this illustrious 10% you have to be earning around £26K. So those that believe that this is an issue with emerging economies are just delusional. 

I think politicians and others do need to come clean but I would agree that it can be sold in other ways. Eg promote the health benefits - more exercise, cleaner air and better diet will lead to longer life expectancy. The trouble is that the departmental way that government is run does not lead to a holistic approach.

I rarely watch the news these days, but I'm sure that Johnson said that he was in New York to talk about climate change and a trade deal that would include beef. Talk about mixed messages! It makes you wonder what he actually knows about the causes of climate change.

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chrisonabike replied to IanMK | 2 years ago
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IanMK wrote:

The inconvenient truth is that the 10% of highest earners on the planet are responisible for 50% of carbon emissions. To be in this illustrious 10% you have to be earning around £26K. So those that believe that this is an issue with emerging economies are just delusional.

Yes - as many of us in this forum will be in the richest 1% of the world's population and even people on benefits in the UK may be in the top 10%. (I'm certainly not suggesting that makes it easy for those on benefits before anyone starts...merely highlighting we all consume at a rate high above the world's per capita energy / resource usage.)

I wasn't even thinking of "politics" at the national level, more the local debates and relationships with our friends and neighbours that give you and me the chance to actually change something. (And in the process benefit ourselves from said relationships). Doesn't mean we shouldn't lobby or challenge MPs too of course!

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IanMK replied to chrisonabike | 2 years ago
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For the record, this is the report I slightly misquoted 🙂
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/sep/21/worlds-richest-1-cau...

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chrisonabike replied to IanMK | 2 years ago
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Yep, same one as Ol' Man Hembrow was quoting and quibbling with both the Grauniad's reporting and the original in my link. The one thing that seems sure is we in the UK ought to tighten our belts on energy usage - unless we choose another path and say "bollocks to it".

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brooksby | 2 years ago
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Isn't the point of Khan's photo also that the road is flooded due to a teensy bit of extra rainfall that the capital had, which one can also blame on the climate emergency?

(I'm losing track a bit now, by the way: are we referring to this as "climate emergency", "climate change", "climate collapse", or "OMG this could be the end of civilisation"?)

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Awavey replied to brooksby | 2 years ago
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Presumably the Mayor of London, might like to have a word, on his doorstep so to speak,with Ealing borough council then, voted to remove 7 LTNs theyd installed at last nights council meeting.

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