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“Just a flesh wound”: Cyclists spot Cervélo TT bike for £820 on Facebook Marketplace which owner claims to have ridden “for years without problem”… despite giant crack in carbon downtube; Fallout to farcical Algarve sprint chaos + more on the live blog

Welcome back to the live blog, Dan Alexander is charging towards the keyboard like Filippo Ganna at an ill-fated stage race, ready to bring you all the news, reaction, silliness and more from the world of cycling today
  • by Dan Alexander
Thu, Feb 20, 2025 09:14
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SUMMARY

  • "It was a wrong decision by the peloton but it's clear that we didn't do enough to avoid this outcome, which we very much regret": Volta ao Algarve statement on stage one chaos
  • "We're thankful that everyone finished safely, but let's use this opportunity to continue to shine a light on making the best sport in the world a safer one": Ineos Grenadiers respond to Filippo Ganna losing his Algarve 'win'
  • "Professional cycling has once again lost credibility": Visma-Lease a Bike furious with "ridiculous" Algarve finish, slam "embarrassing and dangerous" incident that "could have ended very badly"
  • Boy, 7, inspired by Paddy McGuinness's epic Raleigh Chopper charity ride raises £1,000 for homeless centre
  • Fabian Cancellara: "Pogačar is not going to kill cycling... but obviously if someone dominates so much it becomes less interesting"
  • How to bleed Shimano hydraulic disc brakes
  • Jonathan Milan powers to second stage win of the week as crosswinds (very briefly) threaten to cause carnage at UAE Tour
  • "It's going to take a fatality for something to finally happen": Cyclists call for "complete rethink" of "very dangerous junction", after father and child hit by driver on bike lane in shocking collision
  • Pidcock wins again... and celebrates by getting some air
  • Could a pro cyclist lose a race because their power meter has been hacked? Study suggests cyberattacks on smart trainers and cycling computers could manipulate riders' data and even put them at risk
  • "You want them to have navigators? Put on a tandem race": Time for your thoughts on that Algarve farce
  • "I was more stressed about Tom's contract than my own!": Tom Pidcock's new teammate Rory Townsend on how "maverick" Olympic champ has lifted Q36.5 (and why you shouldn't drink too much pickle juice)
  • "The team fully committed to me, and it's nice to be able to repay that"
  • Algarve organisers' huge sigh of relief as stage two passes without incident
  • "Just a flesh wound": Cyclists spot Cervélo TT bike for £820 on Facebook Marketplace which owner claims to have ridden "for years without problem"... despite giant crack in carbon downtube
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20 February 2025, 09:14

"It was a wrong decision by the peloton but it's clear that we didn't do enough to avoid this outcome, which we very much regret": Volta ao Algarve statement on stage one chaos

Farcical Algarve stage 2025
Farcical Algarve stage 2025 (Image Credit: Eurosport)
Farcical Algarve stage 2025
Farcical Algarve stage 2025 (Image Credit: Eurosport)

Yesterday evening the organisation of the Volta ao Algarve, the stage race hit by “total chaos” and farcical scenes on its opening stage when almost the entire peloton went the wrong way at a roundabout before the sprint, has released a longer statement on the incident. It confirmed the brief social media statement we reported last night, explaining that there would be no winner and the stage result had been cancelled.

> “Most bizarre finish we’ve seen”: Farcical finish to pro race… after “total chaos” sees almost entire peloton miss turning during sprint and end up on wrong side of road

“The College of Commissaires interpreted the regulations and, given what happened, decided to cancel the stage because they considered that sporting truth did not prevail in the end. All the technical information was clear that the riders should go left at the last roundabout. The fact is that some of them took the right, in a lane parallel to the finish line. It was a wrong decision by the peloton but it’s clear that we didn’t do enough to avoid this outcome, which we very much regret,” explained Sérgio Sousa, director of the Volta ao Algarve.

20 February 2025, 09:14

"We're thankful that everyone finished safely, but let's use this opportunity to continue to shine a light on making the best sport in the world a safer one": Ineos Grenadiers respond to Filippo Ganna losing his Algarve 'win'

Things escalated quite quickly for everyone yesterday at Algarve, but perhaps quickest for Filippo Ganna and the Ineos Grenadiers. First, there was jubilation and a funny social media post…

Ineos Grenadiers Algarve tweet
Ineos Grenadiers Algarve tweet (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Ineos Grenadiers Algarve tweet
Ineos Grenadiers Algarve tweet (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

And then disappointment, frustration and a less gleeful follow-up that tried to take a more philosophical view of events. The team wrote last night: “Following the finish, the decision was made to cancel stage one of the Volta ao Algarve without a result.

“Cycling is tough. Some days you win but most you lose. We want to pay tribute to the incredible love and dedication that organisers and volunteers put into our sport, as well as its amazing fans. We’re thankful that today everyone finished safely, but let’s use this opportunity to continue to shine a light on making the best sport in the world a safer one.”

20 February 2025, 09:14

"Professional cycling has once again lost credibility": Visma-Lease a Bike furious with "ridiculous" Algarve finish, slam "embarrassing and dangerous" incident that "could have ended very badly"

Farcical Algarve stage 2025
Farcical Algarve stage 2025 (Image Credit: Eurosport)
Farcical Algarve stage 2025
Farcical Algarve stage 2025 (Image Credit: Eurosport)

While the Ineos Grenadiers were philosophical in defeat, Visma-Lease a Bike and Wout van Aert went on the attack, calling out the race organisers and UCI for yet another “embarrassing” incident that risked rider safety.

In a lengthy post on the team’s website, Visma-Lease a Bike explained how it had been excited to see Jonas Vingegaard’s return to the peloton following the off-season, the two-time Tour de France champion joined by Van Aert, Sepp Kuss, Tiesj Benoot, Wilco Kelderman, Ben Tulett and Loe van Belle at the 2.Pro race, one of the many week-long stage races that punctuate the opening couple of months of the racing calendar. That excitement quickly turned to anger as Van Aert explained.

“This was undoubtedly a human mistake. The final roundabout was not closed off, creating a ridiculous situation. When I saw the barriers on the other side, I realised something was wrong. Some people even signalled that we should be careful. Situations like this simply cannot happen.”

Sports director Arthur van Dongen called the episode “embarrassing” and suggested the sport had “once again lost credibility”.

“The riders’ safety must be the top priority, but the organisers fell short in that regard,” he said. “Fortunately, there were no serious accidents, because this could have ended very badly. Safety in cycling remains a major issue. I hope the UCI wakes up soon.”

The incident on yesterday’s Algarve stage came just two weeks after Ineos Grenadiers, Lidl-Trek, Red Bull-Bora-Hansgrohe, EF Education-EasyPost, and several other teams all refused to race and headed back to their team buses during Étoile de Bessèges, that after multiple incidents of motorists on the course, in one case causing a crash.

20 February 2025, 09:14

Boy, 7, inspired by Paddy McGuinness's epic Raleigh Chopper charity ride raises £1,000 for homeless centre

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Albiecycles (Just Giving)
Albiecycles (Just Giving) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

A seven-year-old from Northampton has raised £1,000 for a homeless centre in the town by cycling 100km over several rides after being inspired by Paddy McGuinness’s Children in Need 300-mile Chopper charity cycle.

Albie’s mum Katy told the Banbury Guardian: “He has also shown great perseverance and determination to complete the challenge even in the cold and miserable weather. There were many times he could have stayed inside watching television or films but he knew he had to get it done and that’s what he did.”

He raised more than 400% of his original £250 target, so far raising £1,010 for Northampton Hope Centre.

20 February 2025, 09:14

Fabian Cancellara: "Pogačar is not going to kill cycling... but obviously if someone dominates so much it becomes less interesting"

Tadej Pogacar UAE Tour 2025 (Colnago)
Tadej Pogacar UAE Tour 2025 (Colnago) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Tadej Pogacar UAE Tour 2025 (Colnago)
Tadej Pogacar UAE Tour 2025 (Colnago) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

The famous French sport newspaper L’Équipe this week published a piece asking if “Tadej Pogacar’s dominance could tire the public?” 

Fabian Cancellara, the legendary pro cyclist-turned-team boss with Tudor Pro Cycling, was one of those asked for his opinion, Spartacus answering: “Pogačar is not going to kill cycling. I don’t like the term. But obviously if someone dominates so much, it’s like Max Verstappen in Formula 1. I don’t know about you, but for me, it becomes less interesting, I follow the races a little less. In cycling, we could see the same thing, but when Eddy Merckx also dominated everything or when Tom (Boonen) and I won the Flemish races, then there were new riders, new names.”

Pogačar’s former teammate Marc Hirschi, who now rides under Cancellara’s tutelage for his Swiss team, looked at the question in a different way… “Some will start to get bored, but at the same time, most know cycling thanks to Tadej, who is recognised throughout the world […] It goes so fast in cycling today. You can get sick, be unwell, other riders can emerge too. Maybe next season will be Remco’s?”

What do we reckon? Would you find another year of Pogačar dominance like 2024 boring? 

20 February 2025, 09:14

20 February 2025, 09:14

How to bleed Shimano hydraulic disc brakes

It’s Home Mechanics’ Week here on road.cc, so keep you eyes peeled for more stuff like this that might just save you a trip to a bike shop. 

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How to bleed Shimano hydraulic disc brakes - 14 - bleed tubing attached to the bleed nipple with syringe of mineral oil (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
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How to bleed Shimano hydraulic disc brakes – 14 – bleed tubing attached to the bleed nipple with syringe of mineral oil (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

> How to bleed Shimano hydraulic disc brakes

20 February 2025, 09:14

Jonathan Milan powers to second stage win of the week as crosswinds (very briefly) threaten to cause carnage at UAE Tour

Treated to echelons on a Thursday morning, the UAE Tour is good for some things at least, even if the route’s almost totally flat, boring and almost entirely unwatched by anyone at the roadside. Tadej Pogačar and his home favourites, UAE Team Emirates, led the charge as the wind blowed, optimal cross tailwind conditions seeing speeds of close to 70km/h and the peloton split into multiple groups.

Those behind got the chase sorted fairly quick however and the threat of total carnage was cooled. It all meant we got the sprint that was expected on stage four, Jonathan Milan pipping Tim Merlier and Jasper Philipsen in a photo finish. 

 
 
 
 
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All three are expected to head to the Tour de France this summer, setting up the prospect of some mouth-watering sprint clashes, especially when you add in Biniam Girmay, Wout van Aert, Fabio Jakobsen, Dylan Groenewegen, Arnaud de Lie and anyone else who fancies it. Shout out to British rider Dan McLay, now part of Visma-Lease a Bike’s lead-out team, who got up for fourth on the stage. No changes on GC, let’s see if the afternoon’s action in Andalusia and the Algarve is quite so barmy as yesterday.

20 February 2025, 09:14

"It's going to take a fatality for something to finally happen": Cyclists call for "complete rethink" of "very dangerous junction", after father and child hit by driver on bike lane in shocking collision

Barton Park junction on the A40, Oxfordshire (Google Street View)
Barton Park junction on the A40, Oxfordshire (Google Street View) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Barton Park junction on the A40, Oxfordshire (Google Street View)
Barton Park junction on the A40, Oxfordshire (Google Street View) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

> “It’s going to take a fatality for something to finally happen”: Cyclists call for “complete rethink” of “very dangerous junction”, after father and child hit by driver on bike lane in shocking collision

20 February 2025, 09:14

Pidcock wins again... and celebrates by getting some air

 
 
 
 
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Following on from his two stage wins and overall victory at the AlUla Tour, Tom Pidcock has just won the second stage of Vuelta a Andalucia, sprinting from a small group including Enric Mas, Pavel Sivakov, Clément Berthet and his former Ineos Grenadiers teammate Brandon Rivera. He’ll have a tricky job winning GC here, Sivakov holding a handy 32 seconds on the Brit, but what a start to life at Q36.5 it’s been. 

More on that coming in the latest episode of the road.cc Podcast soon…

20 February 2025, 09:14

Could a pro cyclist lose a race because their power meter has been hacked? Study suggests cyberattacks on smart trainers and cycling computers could manipulate riders' data and even put them at risk

Remco Evenepoel at the 2024 UCI World Championships (Timon Bachmann/SWpix.com)
SWpix (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Remco Evenepoel at the 2024 UCI World Championships (Timon Bachmann/SWpix.com)
SWpix (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

> Could a pro cyclist lose a race because their power meter has been hacked? Study suggests cyberattacks on smart trainers and cycling computers could manipulate riders’ data and even put them at risk

20 February 2025, 09:14

"You want them to have navigators? Put on a tandem race": Time for your thoughts on that Algarve farce

GMBasix is, like most of us, fairly unimpressed by the Volta ao Algarve organiser’s claims that yesterday’s mistake was the peloton’s “wrong decision”… no, really.

“Seriously, mate, stick your head in a cold butt of water,” our comments section advised. “They may be pro riders but, at the last turn at the end of a stage, they will be a little bit tired and not focusing on the A to Z. Their job is to ride and, team instructions aside, ride as fast as they can. You want them to have navigators? Put on a tandem race. Any ambiguous junctions and lack of clear directions on the route is down to you alone.”

Rendel Harris: “Pretty embarrassing for VAA organisers but also a bit for Arnaud de Lie, who opined: ‘Everyone knows the finish is on the left, it’s been like that for years. The first rider followed the motorcycles, but he must have never watched a cycling race, because we all know that motorcycles don’t cross the finish line’. Presumably he said this before he found out that the first rider to take the wrong turn whom all the rest followed was Jarrad Drizners, his own leadout man.” 

And a final bit of fun from mdavidford: 

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2025 (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Live blog comment 20/02/2025
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20 February 2025, 09:14

"I was more stressed about Tom's contract than my own!": Tom Pidcock's new teammate Rory Townsend on how "maverick" Olympic champ has lifted Q36.5 (and why you shouldn't drink too much pickle juice)

I teased that Pidcock podcast episode and would you look at that, there it is! As if by magic, maybe I should ask for an incident-free finish to today’s Algarve stage and a winning Lottery ticket while I’m at it…

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podcast episode 98 lead image (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
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podcast episode 98 lead image (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

> “I was more stressed about Tom’s contract than my own!”: Tom Pidcock’s new teammate Rory Townsend on how “maverick” Olympic champ has lifted Q36.5 (and why you shouldn’t drink too much pickle juice)

20 February 2025, 09:14

"The team fully committed to me, and it's nice to be able to repay that"

 
 
 
 
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Here’s what the man himself thought of that victory, Pidcock telling Q36.5’s press team: “I think yesterday I was a bit too ambitious, a bit too active too early, and didn’t really respect the race and the course. I paid for it in the final, which was unfortunate, but I learnt a good lesson.

“I also had fun racing, so it wasn’t all bad. Today, I made amends for that — I played it smart, worked the tactics well, and it’s super nice to get the hands up in the air. The team fully committed to me, and it’s nice to be able to repay that.”

20 February 2025, 09:14

Algarve organisers' huge sigh of relief as stage two passes without incident

So, who actually won the summit finish? Jonas Vingegaard? Primož Roglič? Nope it was a UAE Team Emirates 1-2 with Jan Christen and João Almeida, that might just be even more surprising than everyone getting to where they needed to be without ending up on the wrong side of the barriers. Then again, it’s easier at the top of a climb like this…

 
 
 
 
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20 February 2025, 09:14

"Just a flesh wound": Cyclists spot Cervélo TT bike for £820 on Facebook Marketplace which owner claims to have ridden "for years without problem"... despite giant crack in carbon downtube

An intrepid bargain-hunting cyclist spotted a Cervélo P2 on Facebook Marketplace for €990 (£820). Intrigued they took a closer look and were so amused by what they found they did what any sensible person of the internet would — head straight to Reddit to share. It was posted in the ‘Delusional Craigslist’ subreddit, a group for “the most ridiculous posts from Craigslist, Facebook Marketplace, and anywhere else idiots try to sell things for WAY more than what they’re actually worth”, which sounds like somewhere we might spend some more time scrolling in future.

> How to buy a bike on Facebook Marketplace — don’t get scammed with these key dos and don’ts for buying a pre-owned bike online

Anyway, back to the Cervélo. “Switching hobby,” the seller told potential buyers. “Lower frame has one-inch crack. Been using it for years without problem.”

Facebook Marketplace bike "flesh wound" (Reddit/RIPmyfirstaccount)
RIPmyfirstaccount) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Facebook Marketplace bike "flesh wound" (Reddit/RIPmyfirstaccount)
RIPmyfirstaccount) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Okay, let’s fire up the pic of the crack that hasn’t stopped it being ridden for years… ah, right…

Facebook Marketplace bike "flesh wound" (Reddit/RIPmyfirstaccount)
RIPmyfirstaccount) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Facebook Marketplace bike "flesh wound" (Reddit/RIPmyfirstaccount)
RIPmyfirstaccount) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

What’s worse? The thought of someone riding this “for years” with that or claiming you had to try to get someone else to pay nearly £1,000 for it? We’ll leave that up to the cycling High Court… (our comments section).

Like that heartbreakingly cracked Kuota we shared on the blog last week, there was brief back-and-forth in the comments over whether the crack could be fixed and, more to the point, if it was financially worth it. Yes, duct tape got mentioned again, we hope as a joke.

> “As a mechanic, I would judge a mechanic who offers to repair it”: Cyclist asks Facebook if incredibly snapped carbon frame can be saved “for mostly indoor cycling”, told absolutely don’t “just put some duct tape on it and ride on”

Someone claimed to be happy to ride it in that condition: “I’d ride that. Then it goes up on the wall. I love pushing bikes to catastrophic failure. Feels like I got my money’s worth. Haven’t lost any teeth yet, but my shins tell a tale.” Almost want to start a whip-round to check that one out.

Anyway, we’ll crack on with the rest of the day and just leave this here…

20 February 2025, 09:14

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Best endurance road bikes {year} — the comfy mile munchers for long rides, sportives and audaxes

The best endurance road bikes come with comfort and steady handling without compromising on performance

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Dan is the road.cc news editor and joined in 2020 having previously written about nearly every other sport under the sun for the Express, and the weird and wonderful world of non-league football for The Non-League Paper. Dan has been at road.cc for four years and mainly writes news and tech articles as well as the occasional feature. He has hopefully kept you entertained on the live blog too. Never fast enough to take things on the bike too seriously, when he’s not working you’ll find him exploring the south of England by two wheels at a leisurely weekend pace, or enjoying his favourite Scottish roads when visiting family. Sometimes he’ll even load up the bags and ride up the whole way, he’s a bit strange like that.  

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15 thoughts on ““Just a flesh wound”: Cyclists spot Cervélo TT bike for £820 on Facebook Marketplace which owner claims to have ridden “for years without problem”… despite giant crack in carbon downtube; Fallout to farcical Algarve sprint chaos + more on the live blog”

  1. Rendel Harris
    February 20, 2025 at 11:01 am
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    Pretty embarrassing for VAA

    Pretty embarrassing for VAA organisers but also a bit for Arnaud de Lie, who opined: ““Everyone knows the finish is on the left, it’s been like that for years. The first rider followed the motorcycles, but he must have never watched a cycling race, because we all know that motorcycles don’t cross the finish line.”  Presumably he said this before he found out that the first rider to take the wrong turn whom all the rest followed was Jarrad Drizners, his own leadout man.

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  2. GMBasix
    February 20, 2025 at 11:08 am
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    Sérgio Sousa wrote:

    All the technical information was clear that the riders should go left at the last roundabout. The fact is that some of them took the right, in a lane parallel to the finish line. It was a wrong decision by the peloton but it’s clear that we didn’t do enough to avoid this outcome, which we very much regret,”

    — Sérgio Sousa

    Seriously, mate, stick your head in a cold butt of water.

    They may be pro riders but, at the last turn at the end of a stage, they will be a little bit tired and not focusing on the A to Z. Their job is to ride and, team instructions aside, ride as fast as they can.

    You want them to have navigators? Put on a tandem race.

    Any ambiguous junctions and lack of clear directions on the route is down to you alone.

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    • GMBasix
      February 20, 2025 at 11:23 am
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      (The “mate” in question is,

      (The “mate” in question is, of course, Sérgio Sousa, as quoted; not Rendel, whose post I happen to have followed in timeline order. That’s the ambiguity that arises from following the person ahead without paying attention!)

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      • SimoninSpalding
        February 20, 2025 at 11:50 am
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        Hopefully you’ll get away

        Hopefully you’ll get away with it, bear in mind how many other well-meaning perfectly reasonable commenters to this site Rendel has hounded, bullied or otherwise abused* after a post that was “open to interpretation”

        *allegedly (although probably they were all the same repeatedly banned user under different names)

        😜

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      • Rendel Harris
        February 20, 2025 at 12:03 pm
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        GMBasix wrote:

        (The “mate” in question is, of course, Sérgio Sousa, as quoted; not Rendel, whose post I happen to have followed in timeline order. That’s the ambiguity that arises from following the person ahead without paying attention!)

        — GMBasix

        *takes head out of bucket of cold water* No harm done, needed waking up anyway.

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    • quiff
      February 20, 2025 at 3:41 pm
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      GMBasix]

      [quote=Sérgio Sousa]All the technical information was clear that the riders should go left at the last roundabout. 

      — GMBasix

      Foolproof. Assuming the last roundabout had a big sign saying “last roundabout”.

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  3. mdavidford
    February 20, 2025 at 11:12 am
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    Re. Is Pogačar going to kill

    Re. Is Pogačar going to kill cycling – didn’t we decide that Warner Bros Discovery had already done that?

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  4. quiff
    February 20, 2025 at 3:38 pm
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    BMC Kaius fork recall – stop

    BMC Kaius fork recall – stop riding: https://bmc-switzerland.com/pages/platform/kaius-01-inspection

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  5. brooksby
    February 20, 2025 at 3:48 pm
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    (Grauniad) Cycling to school

    (Grauniad) Cycling to school almost became extinct – until one man revived the bike bus

    Sam Balto took the idea from a local school to the White House and beyond, inspiring a global movement in which children feel the benefits of cycling together

    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2025/feb/20/cycling-to-school-almost-became-extinct-until-one-man-revived-the-bike-bus

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    • chrisonabike
      February 20, 2025 at 4:35 pm
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      Nice story.  Of course, fix

      Nice story.  Of course, fix the roads and streets and … kids can do this for themselves.  Even … in the UK! (Though it looks like most are walking in the video).

      And of course, the usual link to an article / video from that place which some people don’t believe exists, and others don’t think is relevant because it’s not here and that couldn’t possibly work in our conditions etc.

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    • chrisonabike
      February 20, 2025 at 4:47 pm
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      In the “people take boring

      In the “people take boring stuff in the built environment for granted” category:

      Here’s an article written by a local (in translation) on the “pillars of Dutch Children Cycling” which almost fails to mention “infra”.  But of course they do say it must be safe for very young children to cycle close to home.

      In fact it is the “not-cycling-infra” which allows this to be so.

      This encompasses the the macro-scale (larger network) e.g. planning to avoid routing highways through urban centres and promote less through-traffic generally.  Offering alternatives to driving in the first place, and reducing the numbers of larger vehicles around residential places.

      Then there is making a clear distinction between distributor roads and “local streets”.  Traffic is reduced (and slowed) there by e.g. these being access-only, maybe one-way.  And with modal filters to give walkers and cyclists more options (and let emergency vehicles through – maybe even resident drivers or deliveries also).

      All of which (with much more detail) makes those local streets very “low traffic and slow traffic” and means parents are happy to let those children out!

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  6. David9694
    February 20, 2025 at 5:47 pm
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    “Just a flesh wound” was

    “Just a flesh wound” was expecting to be the. 94th person to post…

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  7. SecretSam
    February 21, 2025 at 7:41 am
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    All TT bikes are stupid and

    All TT bikes are stupid and dangerous, so why not add a bit of excitement to it…

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    • Mr Blackbird
      February 21, 2025 at 8:57 am
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      Yes. A lot of people in the
      Yes. A lot of people in the media seem to be jumping on this bandwagon.
      TT bikes are a large part of competitive club cycling in the UK. And provide an opportunity to compete, for a lot of people. Thousands of club riders compete on TT bikes,without misshap.
      They are deemed dangerous because of the way some people ride them in the professional ranks.
      There is a growing trend for riding in a head down position, looking at the front wheel, rather than looking ahead. This is usually fine on closed roads in competition, with course info from the team car on the radio. But not in training, when traffic and parked cars etc are on the road. When pros have crashed in training, the danger gets publicised and blown out of proportion.
      Most open time trials I take part in, display a warning sign near the start “Riding Head Down Kills.”

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      • GMBasix
        February 21, 2025 at 9:21 am
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        A pair of aero belay glasses

        A pair of aero belay glasses would suffice

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jackcycles 1 hour ago

The problem with roadcc's coverage of Nick Freeman is that it's focusing too much on his controversial hot takes, rather than the well-known work he's done road safety campaigning. For balance, Nick has been very vocal recently on the dangers posed by electric cars for cyclists and pedestrians, writing (on X): "Pedestrians, cyclists and other vulnerable road users often rely on hearing an approaching vehicle. That’s why I believe EVs should emit synthesised warning sounds at all speeds, not just low speeds. Road safety must always come first." I think we can all unite around that sentiment rather than the more divisive number plates argument which I disagree with. Nick thinks that "accountability" comes with identifiability. I agree to some extent, but you have to balance the risks posed by a form of transport with the loss of freedom and increase in state power resulting in having mandatory identity numbers. Cycling doesn't even come close.

in: “This is exactly why cyclists should have number plates,” says Mr Loophole – after “arrogant” cyclist fined £1,200 for squeezing between cars (while riding without a licence plate); Cyclist in outside lane of 70mph dual carriageway + more on the live blog
Xenophon2 4 hours ago

@HarrogateSpa : Exactly. Clickbait articles such as this to keep the advertisers happy.

in: “This is exactly why cyclists should have number plates,” says Mr Loophole – after “arrogant” cyclist fined £1,200 for squeezing between cars (while riding without a licence plate); Cyclist in outside lane of 70mph dual carriageway + more on the live blog
chrisonabike 5 hours ago

@hawkinspeter Hmm... while there is sensible stuff in there it's even better where the design and human nature carries more of the weight than rules or guidance. Speed limits being one; if it was just on the rules that would be a lesser way of ensuring safety than the road / space design. (Of course just changing a number on a sign *does* work to some extent, presumably in part via the "anchoring" effect and "when in Rome"). I'm thinking more of what we have in eg. UK motorway-design-level thought and applying that *. One example would be the Dutch taking the observation that a certain fraction of people will make dangerous overtake no matter the rules, paint or even considerations of their own safety and a muffed overtake can have very severe consequences ... and then simply banning overtaking on some classes of roads (and even bringing in physical barriers some places). Hey presto - a whole class of problems they don't have! (It's not perfect of course, lots of legacy roads there). * Only some classes of vehicles allowed, everyone going the same direction with no crossing traffic or stopping / parking, rumble strips at edges, energy absorbing crash barriers, curved layout to stop people falling asleep...

in: Sometimes, cyclists can be a**eholes too — and it’s OK to say that
ktache 5 hours ago

I liked his graphs.

in: Sometimes, cyclists can be a**eholes too — and it’s OK to say that
Rendel Harris 6 hours ago

And yet not three weeks ago you were actively canvassing likes. Good liars need good memories, Nigel.

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hawkinspeter 6 hours ago

@chrisonabike - the Highway Code is a good example of fool-tolerant rules. The emphasis is on how to minimise causing danger to others, but also avoiding collisions even if the other road users are being arseholes (e.g. not running over cyclists even if they're blatantly cycling on the wrong side of the road)

in: Sometimes, cyclists can be a**eholes too — and it’s OK to say that
jackcycles 6 hours ago

Bless you, I didn't realise you place your self-worth on the number of likes you receive on an internet forum. I've never yearned for the approval of others, I'm just satisfied in the knowledge that I've constructed a coherent and noteworthy post. The best one I've done so far was the one I gave with your pipe, ale and suggestion to move to my leafy cul de sac. I have to admit I cheekily read it back to myself a few times and chuckled *every single time*!

in: Sometimes, cyclists can be a**eholes too — and it’s OK to say that
chrisonabike 7 hours ago

Yeah, I think you're right, it did get a bit more "oh yeah? Well what about this?!" latterly. There's a lot more polarising going on. I blame myself. And the unicyclists.

in: Sometimes, cyclists can be a**eholes too — and it’s OK to say that
mdavidford 7 hours ago

"They want us all locked in our homes...!" "Not all, only some..."

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chrisonabike 7 hours ago

@hawkinspeter fool-tolerant design? Fool-foiling designs sound better but they tend to have unfortunate side-effects - at least when combined with human nature *. "Sustainable Safety" - design expecting mistakes and some rule-breaking eg. corner-cutting - but be *forgiving*. That means while *feedback* is provided (see adverse camber, slightly uneven driving surface etc) favour "everyone gets to their destination safely" over "the rules must be respected even at risk of collateral damage!" The penalty for failure shouldn't be serious injury or death. * Few want to be thought a fool and some may prove it if they believe that assumption was made.

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