Skip to content
  • road.cc
  • off.road.cc
  • ebiketips
  • Shop
  • About us
  • Subscribe to the road.cc newsletter here
Log In Register
preferred-google-button

Support road.cc

Like this site? Help us to make it better.
Subscribe
  • News
  • Reviews

    Bike

    Components

    Accessories

    Clothing

    Health, fitness and nutrition

    Tools and workshop

    Miscellaneous

    Road bikes

    Sportive and endurance bikes

    Gravel and adventure bikes

    Urban and hybrid bikes

    Touring bikes

    Cyclocross bikes

    Electric bikes

    Folding bikes

    Fixed & singlespeed bikes

    Children’s bikes

    Tandems

    Frames

    Accessories – misc

    Computer mounts

    Bags

    Bar ends

    Bike bags & cases

    Bottle cages

    Bottle

    Cameras

    Car racks

    Child seats

    Computers

    Glasses

    GPS units

    Helmets

    Lights – front

    Lights – rear

    Light – sets

    Locks

    Mirrors

    Mudguards

    Racks

    Pumps & CO2 inflators

    Puncture kits

    Reflectives

    Smart watches

    Stands and racks

    Trailers

    Arm & leg warmers

    Base layers

    Gilets

    Gloves – full finger

    Gloves – mitts

    Headwear

    Jackets

    Jerseys – casual

    Jerseys – long sleeve

    Jerseys – short sleeve

    Overshoes

    Shoes

    Shorts & 3/4s

    Skin suits

    Socks

    Tights & longs

    Underwear

    Trousers

    Bar tape & grips

    Bottom brackets

    Brake & gear cables

    Brake & STI levers

    Brake pads & spares

    Brakes

    Cassettes & freewheels

    Chains

    Chainsets & chainrings

    Derailleurs – front

    Derailleurs – rear

    Forks

    Gear levers & shifters

    Groupsets

    Handlebars & extensions

    Headsets

    Hubs

    Inner tubes

    Pedals

    Quick releases & skewers

    Saddles

    Seatposts

    Stems

    Wheels

    Tyres

    Energy & recovery bars

    Energy & recovery drinks

    Energy & recovery gels

    Heart rate monitors

    Hydration products

    Hydration systems

    Indoor trainers

    Power measurement

    Skincare & embrocation

    Sun care

    Training – misc

    Cleaning products

    Lubrication

    Tools – multitools

    Tools – Portable

    Tools – workshop

    Workstands

    Apps

    Books, Maps & DVDs

    Camping and outdoor equipment

    Family

    Gifts & misc

  • Buyers Guides
    Bike
    Components
    Accessories

    Clothing

    Health, fitness and nutrition

    Tools and workshop

    Miscellaneous

    Road bikes

    Sportive and endurance bikes

    Gravel and adventure bikes

    Urban and hybrid bikes

    Touring bikes

    Cyclocross bikes

    Electric bikes

    Folding bikes

    Fixed & singlespeed bikes

    Children’s bikes

    Tandems

    Frames

    Accessories – misc

    Bags

    Bike bags & cases

    Cameras

    Car racks

    Child seats

    Computers

    Glasses

    GPS units

    Helmets

    Lights – front

    Lights – rear

    Locks

    Mudguards

    Racks

    Pumps & CO2 inflators

    Puncture kits

    Reflectives

    Stands and racks

    Trailers

    Arm & leg warmers

    Base layers

    Gilets

    Gloves – full finger

    Gloves – mitts

    Headwear

    Jackets

    Jerseys – casual

    Jerseys – long sleeve

    Jerseys – short sleeve

    Overshoes

    Shoes

    Shorts & 3/4s

    Socks

    Tights & longs

    Trousers

    Bar tape & grips

    Brake & STI levers

    Brakes

    Chainsets & chainrings

    Derailleurs – front

    Derailleurs – rear

    Groupsets

    Handlebars & extensions

    Inner tubes

    Pedals

    Saddles

    Seatposts

    Wheels

    Tyres

    Heart rate monitors

    Indoor trainers

    Power measurement

    Skincare & embrocation

    Training – misc

    Lubrication

    Tools – multitools

    Tools – workshop

    Tools – Portable

    Books, Maps & DVDs

    Gifts & misc

  • Features

    All

    How To

    Tech

    Fitness

    Travel

  • Forum

    Bike Forum

    Tea Stop

  • Recommends
  • Podcast
  • Home
  • Subscribe
  • Log InRegister
  • News
  • Reviews

    Back

    Bikes

    Accessories

    Clothing

    Components

    Health, fitness and nutrition

    Tools and workshop

    Miscellaneous

    Back

    Road bikes

    Sportive and endurance bikes

    Gravel and adventure bikes

    Urban and hybrid bikes

    Touring bikes

    Cyclocross bikes

    Electric bikes

    Folding bikes

    Fixed & singlespeed bikes

    Children’s bikes

    Time trial bikes

    Tandems

    Frames

    Back

    Accessories – misc

    Computer mounts

    Bags

    Bar ends

    Bike bags & cases

    Bottle cages

    Bottles

    Cameras

    Car racks

    Child seats

    Computers

    Glasses

    GPS units

    Helmets

    Lights – front
    Lights – rear
    Light – sets
    Locks
    Mirrors
    Mudguards
    Racks
    Pumps & CO2 inflators

    Puncture kits

    Reflectives
    Smart watches
    Stands and racks
    Trailers

    Back

    Arm & leg warmers
    Base layers
    Gilets
    Gloves – full finger
    Gloves – mitts

    Headwear

    Jackets
    Jerseys – casual
    Jerseys – long sleeve
    Jerseys – long sleeve
    Overshoes
    Shoes
    Shorts & 3/4s
    Skin
    Socks
    Tights & longs
    Underwear
    Trousers

    Back

    Bar tape & grips
    Bottom brackets
    Brake & gear cables
    Brake & STI levers
    Brake pads & spares
    Brakes
    Cassettes & freewheels
    Chains
    Chainsets & chainrings
    Derailleurs – front

    Derailleurs – rear

    Forks
    Gear levers & shifters
    Groupsets
    Handlebars & extensions
    Headsets
    Hubs
    Inner tubes
    Pedals
    Quick releases & skewers
    Saddles
    Seatposts
    Stems
    Wheels
    Tyres

    Back

    Energy & recovery bars
    Energy & recovery drinks
    Energy & recovery gels
    Heart rate monitors
    Hydration products
    Hydration systems
    Indoor trainers
    Power measurement
    Skincare & embrocation
    Sun care
    Training – misc

    Back

    Cleaning products
    Lubrication
    Tools – multitools
    Tools – Portable
    Tools – workshop

    Workstands

    Back

    Apps
    Books, Maps & DVDs
    Camping and outdoor equipment
    Family
    Gifts & misc
  • Buyers Guides

    Back

    Bikes

    Accessories

    Clothing

    Components

    Health, fitness and nutrition

    Tools and workshop

    Miscellaneous

    Cross country mountain bikes

    Tubeless valves

    Back

    Road bikes

    Sportive and endurance bikes

    Gravel and adventure bikes

    Urban and hybrid bikes

    Touring bikes

    Cyclocross bikes

    Electric bikes

    Folding bikes

    Fixed & singlespeed bikes

    Children’s bikes

    Time trial bikes

    Tandems

    Frames

    Back

    Accessories – misc

    Computer mounts

    Bags

    Bar ends

    Bike bags & cases

    Bottle cages

    Bottles

    Cameras

    Car racks

    Child seats

    Computers

    Glasses

    GPS units

    Helmets

    Lights – front
    Lights – rear
    Light – sets
    Locks
    Mirrors
    Mudguards
    Racks
    Pumps & CO2 inflators

    Puncture kits

    Reflectives
    Smart watches
    Stands and racks
    Trailers

    Back

    Arm & leg warmers
    Base layers
    Gilets
    Gloves – full finger
    Gloves – mitts

    Headwear

    Jackets
    Jerseys – casual
    Jerseys – long sleeve
    Jerseys – long sleeve
    Overshoes
    Shoes
    Shorts & 3/4s
    Skin
    Socks
    Tights & longs
    Underwear
    Trousers

    Back

    Energy & recovery bars
    Energy & recovery drinks
    Energy & recovery gels
    Heart rate monitors
    Hydration products
    Hydration systems
    Indoor trainers
    Power measurement
    Skincare & embrocation
    Sun care
    Training – misc

    Back

    Cleaning products
    Lubrication
    Tools – multitools
    Tools – Portable
    Tools – workshop

    Workstands

    Back

    Apps
    Books, Maps & DVDs
    Camping and outdoor equipment
    Family
    Gifts & misc
  • Features

    Back

    All

    How To

    Tech

    Fitness

    Travel

  • Forum

    Back

    Bike Forum
    Tea Stop
  • Recommends
  • Podcast
  • Off.road.cc
  • Ebiketips
  • Shop
  • About Us
  • Subscribe to the road.cc newsletter here
Subscribe
  • road.cc
  • off.road.cc
  • ebiketips
  • Shop
  • Subscribe to the ebiketips newsletter here
Log In Register
  • News
  • Reviews
  • Features
  • Buying
  • Blogs
  • road.cc
  • off.road.cc
  • News
  • Reviews
  • Features
  • Buying
  • Blogs
  • road.cc
  • off.road.cc
  • News
  • Reviews
  • Features
  • Buying
  • Blogs
  • road.cc
  • off.road.cc
  • road.cc
  • off.road.cc
  • ebiketips
  • Shop
  • About us
  • Subscribe to the off.road.cc weekly newsletter
Log In Register
  • Home
  • News
  • Reviews
    • Bikes
    • Accessories
    • Clothing
    • Components
    • Health and fitness
    • Tools and workshop
    • Hardtail Mountain bikes
    • XC Mountain bikes
    • Trail Mountain bikes
    • All-Mountain bikes
    • Enduro Mountain bikes
    • Electric Mountain bikes
    • Gravel and Adventure bikes
    • Pumps and CO2 inflators
    • Racks
    • Movie cameras
    • Mudguards
    • Bags
    • Lights - front
    • GPS units
    • Computers
    • Car racks
    • Bike bags and cases
    • Accessories - misc
    • Jerseys
    • Shoes
    • Shorts and 3/4s
    • Socks
    • Underwear
    • Jackets
    • Body armour
    • Arm and leg warmers
    • Base layers
    • Helmets
    • Gilets
    • Gloves
    • Glasses
    • Cassettes
    • Chainsets and chainrings
    • Derailleurs - rear
    • Forks
    • Gear levers and shifters
    • Groupsets
    • Handlebars
    • Headsets
    • Brakes
    • Inner tubes
    • Pedals
    • Rear shocks
    • Rotors
    • Saddles
    • Bar tape and grips
    • Bottom brackets
    • Seatposts
    • Brake pads and spares
    • Wheels
    • Tyres
    • Stems
    • Energy and recovery bars
    • Energy and recovery drinks
    • Energy and recovery gels
    • Skincare and embrocation
    • Hydration products
    • Power measurement
    • Cleaning products
    • Lubrication
    • Tools - multitools
    • Tools - portable
  • Buying
  • Features
  • Trail Guides
  • About us
  • Home
  • News
  • Reviews
    • Bikes
      • Hardtail Mountain bikes
      • XC Mountain bikes
      • Trail Mountain bikes
      • All-Mountain bikes
      • Enduro Mountain bikes
      • Electric Mountain bikes
      • Gravel and Adventure bikes
    • Accessories
      • Pumps and CO2 inflators
      • Racks
      • Movie cameras
      • Mudguards
      • Bags
      • Lights – front
      • GPS units
      • Computers
      • Car racks
      • Bike bags and cases
      • Accessories – misc
    • Clothing
      • Jerseys
      • Shoes
      • Shorts and 3/4s
      • Socks
      • Underwear
      • Jackets
      • Body armour
      • Arm and leg warmers
      • Base layers
      • Helmets
      • Gilets
      • Gloves
      • Glasses
    • Components
      • Cassettes
      • Chainsets and chainrings
      • Derailleurs – rear
      • Forks
      • Gear levers and shifters
      • Groupsets
      • Handlebars
      • Headsets
      • Brakes
      • Inner tubes
      • Pedals
      • Rear shocks
      • Rotors
      • Saddles
      • Bar tape and grips
      • Bottom brackets
      • Seatposts
      • Brake pads and spares
      • Wheels
      • Tyres
      • Stems
    • Health and fitness
      • Energy and recovery bars
      • Energy and recovery drinks
      • Energy and recovery gels
      • Skincare and embrocation
      • Hydration products
      • Power measurement
    • Tools and workshop
      • Cleaning products
      • Lubrication
      • Tools – multitools
      • Tools – portable
  • Buying
  • Features
  • Trail Guides
  • About Us
  • road.cc
  • Ebiketips
log in
register

Back to News

  • News
20mph sign (CC licensed by EdinburghGreens via Flickr)
20mph sign (CC licensed by EdinburghGreens via Flickr) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Town needs ‘proper infrastructure, not cheap and easy 20mph signs’; St Patrick’s Day: Kelly on the Poggio; Book a MTB tour to help Ukraine; Cycling UK’s 145-mile Kent route; Bikepacking; Coffee or petrol?; Loulou races Cheltenham + more on the live blog

Happy St Patrick’s Day! To celebrate, Ryan Mallon’s here for a special green edition of Thursday’s live blog
  • by Ryan Mallon
Thu, Mar 17, 2022 09:40
48

SUMMARY

  • ‘Drunk cyclist’ arrested after collision in West Derby
  • Inter X Cinelli: the great football-cycling crossover continues
  • Cav: No-one from the team talked to me about Milan-San Remo
  • How do you solve a problem like Tadej?
  • Happy St Patrick's Day everyone!
20mph sign (CC licensed by EdinburghGreens via Flickr)
20mph sign (CC licensed by EdinburghGreens via Flickr) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Google icon
Add as a preferred source on Google
17 March 2022, 09:40

‘Drunk cyclist’ arrested after collision in West Derby

A man was arrested on Tuesday on suspicion of cycling while drunk after a woman was knocked down in a collision.

Merseyside Police attended the scene on the Eaton Road in West Derby after reports of a crash involving a man on a bike. The woman was taken to hospital with minor injuries.

The cyclist was arrested at the scene and taken into custody on suspicion of riding his bike while drunk.

17 March 2022, 09:40

Inter X Cinelli: the great football-cycling crossover continues

The other day we featured on the blog a throwback to one of the all-time great football and cycling collaborations: namely, an old photo of the Yates twins as children with a floppy haired David Beckham.

Well, someone at Inter Milan (the city rivals of Becks’ old club AC) must have been inspired by the idea of a football-cycling crossover, as the three-time European Champions have teamed up with another venerable Italian brand, Cinelli, on a limited-edition joint range of cycling gear and bikes.

Basically, if broadcaster James Richardson has been a fundamental part of your sports viewing life (on Channel 4’s Football Italia and Eurosport’s Tour de France coverage), or if you had posters of both Marco Pantani and Roberto Baggio in the 1990s, then this is right down your street.

Inter Cinelli
Inter Cinelli (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Inter Cinelli
Inter Cinelli (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

The first part of this collaboration, the ‘Made in Milan’ collection, was released today and features a jersey, bib shorts, socks and cap all inspired by the city’s industrial history and art.

Inter and Cinelli have also worked together on a very cool range of bikes, including two Vigorelli track bikes, a Nemo Tig gravel bike and a very classy Nemo Tig road bike.

Inter Cinelli Nemo Tig
Inter Cinelli Nemo Tig (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Inter Cinelli Nemo Tig
Inter Cinelli Nemo Tig (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

The collection all forms part of Inter’s aim to show “that the club is capable of thriving in worlds beyond football and forging ever deeper bonds with iconic Milanese brands.”

Speaking of Milan icons, the collaboration will be officially presented in the city’s famous old Vigorelli velodrome (just down the road from Inter’s San Siro home), on Saturday before the start of Milan-San Remo.

The above video features players from Inter’s U19 women’s team and men’s Primavera Youth team (another nod to Saturday’s classic), as well as the Cinelli racing team, further underlining this “meeting of the worlds”.

The collab’s second round will feature colour variants (woohoo!) and will be launched in June.

I wonder if this footballing-cycling mashup will catch on. If it does I for one can’t wait for the Wolves-Le Col crossover…

17 March 2022, 09:40

Cav: No-one from the team talked to me about Milan-San Remo

Despite an impressive win at the newly sprint-ified Milano-Torino yesterday, Mark Cavendish won’t be lining up at the start of Milan-San Remo on Saturday, a classic he won in scintillating fashion back in 2009.

After Julian Alaphilippe was ruled out with bronchitis, Quick Step-Alpha Vinyl called up Fabio Jakobsen to fill the Frenchman’s spot at La Primavera.

Jakobsen also appears to be the Manx rider’s biggest rival for a place on Quick Step’s Tour de France team, amidst reports that the Dutchman is currently the squad’s preferred option for the sprinting berth in France.

Speaking at the post-race press conference yesterday, Cavendish said he hadn’t spoken with the team about riding the first monument of the season.

“You’ll have to ask the team,” Cavendish said. “No-one from the team talked to me about it, so I don’t know, I don’t know. Obviously, I have won it. I’d like to do it, but nobody talked to me so…

“I’m on a separate programme this year. I don’t really do any big races, though I’ll be back in Italy for the Giro d’Italia.”

There go our hopes of one last trademark Cavendish sprint on the Via Roma then…

17 March 2022, 09:40

How do you solve a problem like Tadej?

With Tadej Pogačar widely expected to blow Milan-San Remo apart on Saturday, some riders are coming up with ingenious plans to outfox the Slovenian superstar:

This is how you get ahead of Pogi. Set off on Wednesday. Not just a pretty face, Wout van Aert 😉 #MilanSanRemo pic.twitter.com/Myj973fMae

— Katy M (@writebikerepeat) March 16, 2022

While it seems as if many within the peloton, including Julian Alaphilippe and defending champion Jasper Stuyven, are trying to avoid yet another hiding at the hands of the 23-year-old by simply not showing up: 

At this rate, Pogačar will go solo because he’ll be the only rider in the race.

— Sadhbh O’Shea (@SadhbhOS) March 17, 2022

Though for anyone jumping the gun about Pogačar’s perceived ‘boring’ dominance of the sport, check out this thread by former Procycling editor Ed Pickering: 

I think the ennui about Pogačar’s current dominance in cycling is very premature. A short thread.

— Edward Pickering (@EdwardPickering) March 17, 2022

I know you didn’t ask, but here are my thoughts on the whole ‘Oh, Pog is going to ruin cycling’ debate:

I’m not at all convinced by the arguments that the sport is in danger of becoming predictable at the hands of a rider who is contributing to the most exciting and attacking racing we’ve seen since the 1980s, who is trying to win every race he enters (a real novelty in the sport’s modern era), and who hasn’t even won many of the races fans are willing him to fail at, for fear the sport will become boring.

Perhaps when Pogačar has captured his fifth Tour in a row, second Giro, third Vuelta, fourth Liège and Lombardia, third Flanders, San Remo and Roubaix (you get the point), then the critics will have a point.

But until then, we should just appreciate – with a healthy dose of scepticism instilled through years of watching cycling – a generational talent winning and racing in a manner which we never thought we’d see again.

And if he rips Saturday’s race to pieces on the Turchino, then even better…

17 March 2022, 09:40

Happy St Patrick's Day everyone!

Happy St. Patrick’s Day to two of the finest Irish riders, Philip O’Ganna and Matty O’Trentin 🇮🇪

— The TT Podcast 🚴‍♂️ (@ttpdcst) March 17, 2022

17 March 2022, 09:40

Repeat offender who stole bike at Gatwick Airport in full view of CCTV cameras jailed

Repeat offender who stole bike at Gatwick Airport in full view of CCTV cameras jailed

Max Huggett was already serving a suspended sentence for similar offences at the airport.

17 March 2022, 09:40

It’s not just cyclists loving the Snake Pass closure – local residents do too thanks to the peace and quiet

It’s not just cyclists loving the Snake Pass closure – local residents do too thanks to the peace and quiet

Cyclists set to take to iconic Peak District road again this week despite Derbyshire County Council insisting they are banned too

Help us to bring you the best cycling content

If you’ve enjoyed this article, then please consider subscribing to road.cc from as little as £2.49. Our mission is to bring you all the news that’s relevant to you as a cyclist, independent reviews, impartial buying advice and more. Your subscription will help us to do more.

Subscribe
  • cycling live blog, live blog, road.cc live blog
Ryan Mallon
After obtaining a PhD, lecturing, and hosting a history podcast at Queen’s University Belfast, Ryan joined road.cc in December 2021 and since then has kept the site’s readers and listeners informed and enthralled (well at least occasionally) on news, the live blog, and the road.cc Podcast. After boarding a wrong bus at the world championships and ruining a good pair of jeans at the cyclocross, he now serves as road.cc’s news editor. Before his foray into cycling journalism, he wallowed in the equally pitiless world of academia, where he wrote a book about Victorian politics and droned on about cycling and bikes to classes of bored students (while taking every chance he could get to talk about cycling in print or on the radio). He can be found riding his bike very slowly around the narrow, scenic country lanes of Co. Down.  

48 Comments

48 thoughts on “Town needs ‘proper infrastructure, not cheap and easy 20mph signs’; St Patrick’s Day: Kelly on the Poggio; Book a MTB tour to help Ukraine; Cycling UK’s 145-mile Kent route; Bikepacking; Coffee or petrol?; Loulou races Cheltenham + more on the live blog”

  1. TriTaxMan
    March 17, 2022 at 10:02 am
    0

    On a bit of an aside…… My

    On a bit of an aside…… My FOI request from Thames Valley Police requesting information on the number of Helmet Camera Videos submitted and the relevant action taken has been denied.

    “Part of this information is not held in an easily retrievable format. In order to provide accurate data relevant to the outcomes, we would have to manually review each case, as this will be within the body of each report. Due to the number of reports that would require review this will exceed the appropriate 18 hour time and £450 cost limit.  “

    Log In or Register to post comments
    • Hirsute
      March 17, 2022 at 10:32 am
      0

      What do they ask on the form

      What do they ask on the form you complete for submission?

      Log In or Register to post comments
      • TriTaxMan
        March 17, 2022 at 10:51 am
        0

        hirsute wrote:

        What do they ask on the form you complete for submission?

        — hirsute

        It’s an online form with an empty box where you complete with the information you want released.  (https://www.thamesvalley.police.uk/rqo/request/ri/request-information/rip/request-information-police/request-information-about-police/foi-request-form/)

        I asked – 

        “Following submission of helmet camera footage by cyclists to Thames Valley Police please confirm the number of videos submitted during the year ended 31st December 2021.  In addition please confirm the number of videos which resulted in 
        a. – No Further Action;
        b. – Driver issued with a warning letter; 
        c. – Driver attended a driver improvement course; and
        d. – Driver issued with penalty points”

        I might have been too specific with the information requests.  Maybe I should have just narrowed it down to number of submissions received and number of NFA’s

        Log In or Register to post comments
        • Hirsute
          March 17, 2022 at 11:08 am
          0

          I meant the orginal

          I meant the orginal submission for a traffic offence.

          Log In or Register to post comments
          • TriTaxMan
            March 17, 2022 at 11:24 am
            0

            hirsute wrote:

            I meant the orginal submission for a traffic offence.

            — hirsute

            I’ve not had the joy of submitting to TVP, only Northumberland Police.

          • Hirsute
            March 17, 2022 at 11:55 am
            0

            Essex changed their form and

            Essex changed their form and it now asks you what you used on the submission page. If TVP don’t ask this as a required field, then I can see it would take manual effort to answer the question.

            I did do one submission to Northumberland Police but the upload speed was so poor in the rental place that it timed out !

        • GMBasix
          March 17, 2022 at 12:29 pm
          0

          I note the following from the

          I note the following from the ICO web site:

           You can automatically withhold information because an exemption applies only if the exemption is ‘absolute’. This may be, for example, information you receive from the security services, which is covered by an absolute exemption. However, most exemptions are not absolute but require you to apply a public interest test. This means you must consider the public interest arguments before deciding whether to disclose the information. So you may have to disclose information in spite of an exemption, where it is in the public interest to do so.

          — ICO

          (Emphasis added)

          You might wish to follow up and ask for the public interest evaluation (as an FOI request, for the avoidance of doubt, although the Act doesn’t require you to say so).

          I agree with you, that it might be worth requesting simpler stats of submissions and NFAs.  After that, I would suggest recruiting local support to press the PCC for more action to have the matter more properly researched.

          It seems a bit anachronous that the questions you have asked are not readily answered by a fairly basic set of search criteria of the force’s database(s).  They could even set out categories of errors or containment (“we extracted cases that included the following categories, the following words and attached files of the following filetypes”).

          If that doesn’t narrow down the number of cases that may need to be researched individually (for maybe a couple of minutes each as part of the 18-hour limit), then that indicates a more serious category of incidents, which suggests that there is a public interest and that the force should be conducting more detailed analysis in any case.

          Log In or Register to post comments
        • Grahamd
          March 17, 2022 at 1:36 pm
          0

          Perhaps it’s just the mood I

          Perhaps it’s just the mood I am in, but I would narrow it down considerably to:

          – How many submissions for the week ending 31/12.

          – How many had no further action.

          Once I had that I would send a second request for week ending 24/12 and so forth…

          Log In or Register to post comments
        • Mary Willoughby
          March 17, 2022 at 1:40 pm
          0

          Hmmm, I wonder whether the

          Hmmm, I wonder whether the specific reference to “helmet” cameras was taken literally.

          Log In or Register to post comments
          • SimoninSpalding
            March 17, 2022 at 1:57 pm
            0

            This was my thought – they

            This was my thought – they could use the specific device used to capture a video as the excuse for not providing the data. Resubmit FOI referencing upload of visual evidence and they will have to think again.

             

    • HoarseMann
      March 17, 2022 at 10:45 am
      0

      Yet some forces manage to

      Yet some forces manage to publish this information without being asked!

      It seems like they’re missing a trick, punishing an individual for a misdemeanour is only a small part of the justice process. The larger benefit is deterring others doing the same by increasing the perception that getting caught is likely. You need publicity for that.

      I have a submission in at the moment with TVP, the NIP has been returned and the case is now awaiting an officer to review and decide on the course of action. I’ve asked they put a note on the file that this course of action is discussed with me prior to being implemented (quoting my rights under the victims code).

      Log In or Register to post comments
    • IanMK
      March 17, 2022 at 12:20 pm
      0

      I was reviewing some footage

      I was reviewing some footage from over the weekend. Started off with 2 overtakes, on my highstreet, as I was just entering the zigzags on a crossing. I just don’t think I can be bothered. 

      I’ve made 5 submissions to TVP since getting the camera. I only got one automatic response which was NFA. I chased 2 and on both occasions they phoned me before 8.00am to discuss. Even on the worst one they asked if they could share my footage with the company so that they could have words with their driver. Some of the other nonsense they came out with just went to show they had no interest in changing driver behaviour.

      Log In or Register to post comments
      • Hirsute
        March 17, 2022 at 1:16 pm
        0

        It’s not an offence to

        It’s not an offence to overtake a cyclist on a zigzag – only applies to motorised traffic.

        You could make an argument for careless/inconsiderate driving but I can’t see that going anywhere.

        Log In or Register to post comments
        • IanMK
          March 17, 2022 at 1:58 pm
          0

          I think this is something

          I think this is something that has change. Agreed it’s not an offence but rule 167 now says 

          DO NOT overtake where you might come into conflict with other road users. For example

          on the approach to crossing facilities

          (I think you are correct about the law bit which was covered in Rule 165. I’d have to follow the link to the RTA and find it specifically but this as you say won’t have changed.)

          So I take primary to dissuade overtaking and they still overtake but of course fail to give 1.5m. Additionally in both cases they swing back in earlier than I would like because they see another car coming in the opposite direction. I’m not expecting any prosecutions but they could be “advised” on best practice.

          Log In or Register to post comments
          • eburtthebike
            March 18, 2022 at 5:00 am
            0

            The HC may say that, but it

            The HC may say that, but it isn’t law.  In the event of a collision, it would probably be taken into account though.

  2. brooksby
    March 17, 2022 at 10:29 am
    0

    Has anyone noticed all these

    Has anyone noticed all these stories spreading across the media calling for fuel duty to be reduced (after being frozen for the last decade) because some MP is claiming that parents will be “forced” to homeschool if they can’t afford to drive their children to school…

    (So many motorists complain that cyclists don’t use the cycle paths that their taxes paid for, and yet miss the point that everyone who rarely or never drives is subsidising the fuel used by all the people who do).

    Log In or Register to post comments
    • notMyRealName
      March 17, 2022 at 10:42 am
      0

      The only way that

      The only way that homeschooling could be considered “cheaper” than driving is if you don’t measure the value of the parent or guardian’s time. I guess that makes sense, since statistically the home school supervisor is more likely to be a woman and we all know their time is worth less…

      Log In or Register to post comments
      • wycombewheeler
        March 17, 2022 at 2:54 pm
        0

        notMyRealName wrote:

        The only way that homeschooling could be considered “cheaper” than driving is if you don’t measure the value of the parent or guardian’s time. I guess that makes sense, since statistically the home school supervisor is more likely to be a woman and we all know their time is worth less…

        — notMyRealName

        completely ignoring that walking the children to and from school would take less time than homeschooling them.

        Until we see fewer than 10% of children driven to school, then fuel is not too cheap.

        Log In or Register to post comments
        • TriTaxMan
          March 17, 2022 at 3:49 pm
          0

          wycombewheeler wrote:

          completely ignoring that walking the children to and from school would take less time than homeschooling them.

          Until we see fewer than 10% of children driven to school, then fuel is not too cheap.

          — wycombewheeler

          This is the epitome of a first world problem.

          https://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/news/motoring/driver-forced-ditch-porsche-fuel-6775834

          Log In or Register to post comments
        • Kapelmuur
          March 17, 2022 at 4:22 pm
          0

          My neighbour uses her 4 x 4

          My neighbour uses her 4 x 4 to take and collect her child from a school that is less than half a mile away.

          I have never seen any of the family walking anywhere other than down their drive and into the car.

          I see little hope of persuading such people to walk or cycle.

          Log In or Register to post comments
    • Steve K
      March 17, 2022 at 10:57 am
      0

      brooksby wrote:

      Has anyone noticed all these stories spreading across the media calling for fuel duty to be reduced (after being frozen for the last decade) because some MP is claiming that parents will be “forced” to homeschool if they can’t afford to drive their children to school…

      (So many motorists complain that cyclists don’t use the cycle paths that their taxes paid for, and yet miss the point that everyone who rarely or never drives is subsidising the fuel used by all the people who do).

      — brooksby

      It’s not just ‘some MP’ – it’s Robert Halfon.

      Halfon has two relevant roles here.  First, he is chair of the Education Select Committee.

      And second – he is chair of the All Party Parliamentary for Fair Fuel for UK Motorists and UK Hauliers.  And yes, if that sounds like a familiar name – it is indeed linked to our dear friend Howard Cox.  He is listed as the contact for public enquiries.  https://publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm/cmallparty/211006/fair-fuel-for-uk-motorists-and-uk-hauliers.htm

      Log In or Register to post comments
      • brooksby
        March 17, 2022 at 11:03 am
        0

        Steve K]

        … he is chair of the All Party Parliamentary for Fair Fuel for UK Motorists and UK Hauliers. 

        — Steve K

        Is he really?  Well, gosh, I can’t see him having any particular axe to grind there, then… 

        Log In or Register to post comments
        • Steve K
          March 17, 2022 at 11:09 am
          0

          He’s also got a thing about

          He’s also got a thing about bouncy castles.

          Log In or Register to post comments
          • JustTryingToGetFromAtoB
            March 17, 2022 at 12:27 pm
            0

            Steve K wrote:

            He’s also got a thing about bouncy castles.

            — Steve K

            He should absolutely not have is thing about bouncy castles, he should bloody well keep it to himself.

          • Steve K
            March 17, 2022 at 12:31 pm
            0

            To be fair, it’s a serious

            To be fair, it’s a serious safety concern following tragedies where children have been killed when inflatables have come unmoored in high winds.

          • JustTryingToGetFromAtoB
            March 17, 2022 at 12:50 pm
            0

            Steve K wrote:

            To be fair, it’s a serious safety concern following tragedies where children have been killed when inflatables have come unmoored in high winds.

            — Steve K

            That’s fair
            Note to self, stop trying to be funny

          • Steve K
            March 17, 2022 at 1:07 pm
            0

            Oh, no – entirely my fault. 

            Oh, no – entirely my fault.  I was trying to be funny by bringing up bouncy castles at all.

             

    • AlsoSomniloquism
      March 17, 2022 at 1:39 pm
      0

      Not seen that. However I’ve

      Not seen that. However I’ve seen plenty of headlines in the Right wing press and by right wing commentators that the Russian sanctions have shown Net-Zero policies aren’t ready yet and should be removed…….

      Log In or Register to post comments
      • brooksby
        March 17, 2022 at 3:44 pm
        0

        Which is weird, when I’d read

        Which is weird, when I’d read an article saying that if the Govt had pushed ahead with ‘green’ policies ten years ago when they first mooted it then we wouldn’t be so dependent upon fossil fuels now and we could tell Russia to go shove it’s oil…

        Log In or Register to post comments
        • AlsoSomniloquism
          March 17, 2022 at 6:47 pm
          0

          This is the link about it.

          This is the link about it.

          https://twitter.com/johnharris1969/status/1503327182382325765

          Log In or Register to post comments
  3. JonSP
    March 17, 2022 at 12:33 pm
    0

    RE: Kelly on the Poggio, what

    RE: Kelly on the Poggio, what really strikes me watching it now is how many motorbikes there are and how close to the riders – definitely some aero advantage there, but a lot of risk too.

    Log In or Register to post comments
  4. Steve K
    March 17, 2022 at 12:34 pm
    0

    Of absolutely no great

    Of absolutely no great relevance or import, but I work with the Edge’s cousin.

    Log In or Register to post comments
    • the little onion
      March 17, 2022 at 2:27 pm
      0

      Are they a family that gets

      Are they a family that gets on well? Is your colleague particularly close to the Edge?

      Log In or Register to post comments
      • Steve K
        March 17, 2022 at 2:54 pm
        0

        Excellent work 

        Excellent work laugh

        Log In or Register to post comments
    • mdavidford
      March 17, 2022 at 3:56 pm
      0

      Steve K wrote:

      Of absolutely no great relevance or import, but I work with the Edge’s cousin.

      — Steve K

      The Vertex?

      Log In or Register to post comments
    • mark1a
      March 17, 2022 at 3:57 pm
      0

      I guess Chrome can be called

      I guess Chrome can be called a cousin of Edge now that Microsoft have based it on the Chromium codebase. 

      Log In or Register to post comments
  5. wexeee
    March 17, 2022 at 2:15 pm
    0

    One for the blog? https:/

    One for the blog? https://twitter.com/TVP_Oxford/status/1504434009065066498

    about a guy who has done it before 
    https://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/15075899.160-bikes-seized-one-mans-home/

    and advertises thousands of bikes for sale on gumtree
    https://www.gumtree.com/p/bicycles/used-bikes-for-sale-as-singles-or-job-lot-oxford-oxfordshire-uk/1422466268

    Log In or Register to post comments
  6. Shelders
    March 17, 2022 at 2:18 pm
    0

    Alaphillipe comes home 2nd

    Alaphillipe comes home 2nd then…

    Log In or Register to post comments
  7. OldRidgeback
    March 17, 2022 at 2:29 pm
    0

    I like the idea of that Kent

    I like the idea of that Kent route. It sounds good. The bit from Whitstable to Canterbury is nice and easy as much of it is along an old railway line.

    Log In or Register to post comments
    • tigersnapper
      March 17, 2022 at 3:41 pm
      0

      Yes.  I live in Rochester and

      Yes.  I live in Rochester and am looking forward to trying this out.  My wife is also wanting to give it a go and she normally won’t ride anywhere she has to be o the road.

      Log In or Register to post comments
      • OldRidgeback
        March 17, 2022 at 3:46 pm
        0

        Have you tried the Whitstable

        Have you tried the Whitstable-Canterbury stretch with her? I did that a while bike on rental bikes with my sons.

        Log In or Register to post comments
    • Rendel Harris
      March 17, 2022 at 4:03 pm
      0

      Is that stretch road-bikeable

      Is that stretch road-bikeable or does it need a gravel/hybrid/MTB?

      Log In or Register to post comments
  8. Rendel Harris
    March 17, 2022 at 3:09 pm
    0

    Just want to draw attention

    Just want to draw attention to a spectacular bit of in-court victim blaming: the driver went straight through a give way at a roundabout and hit a cyclist, leaving the 30-year-old victim with a fractured skull, a bleed on the brain and life-changing injuries for which he requires daily care. The defendant pleaded guilty to causing serious injury by dangerous driving. So far, so everyday ghastly.

    Mitigating, the defence lawyer said: “the victim had no lights on his electric bike, no high visibility clothing and was dressed in black. Mr Nuttall said: “He should have been seen but he wasn’t clearly able to be seen.”

    The incident occured at 6.15AM on June 1st last year. Looking up the weather, it was a fine clear day and the sun rose at 4.45AM.

    The defendant was given a suspended sentence because it would be tough on his wife if he went to prison.

    https://www.stokesentinel.co.uk/news/stoke-on-trent-news/driver-leaves-cyclist-life-changing-6791490

     

    Log In or Register to post comments
    • bloodylazylayabout
      March 17, 2022 at 3:20 pm
      0

      Yes – nothing to do with the

      Yes – nothing to do with the fact that there was a stationary vehicle on the right blocking the view but he just ploughed on regardless – it was the lack of lights & hi-viz that did it

      Log In or Register to post comments
    • AlsoSomniloquism
      March 17, 2022 at 3:22 pm
      0

      Can you still drive a fork

      Can you still drive a fork lift truck if a driving license has been suspended? I’m assuming yes if it isn’t “road facing”. 

      Yes definitely shittery from the Defence there, as their normally is. The one car was stopped waiting for the bike, the other car decided they were just stopped for no reason and carried on. I wonder why the defence solicitor didn’t blame the business for expecting the criminal to start work at 630am when it is quite obvious he was too lazy to leave the house in plenty of time. 

      Log In or Register to post comments
      • bloodylazylayabout
        March 17, 2022 at 3:38 pm
        0

        AlsoSomniloquism wrote:

        Can you still drive a fork lift truck if a driving license has been suspended? I’m assuming yes if it isn’t “road facing”. 

        Yes definitely shittery from the Defence there, as their normally is. The one car was stopped waiting for the bike, the other car decided they were just stopped for no reason and carried on. I wonder why the defence solicitor didn’t blame the business for expecting the criminal to start work at 630am when it is quite obvious he was too lazy to leave the house in plenty of time. 

        — AlsoSomniloquism

        If it happened from the direction I imagine it must have it’s likely he was leaving work after a night shift – there is only industrial units from where he was exiting

        Log In or Register to post comments
    • brooksby
      March 17, 2022 at 3:39 pm
      0

      The motorist was banned from

      The motorist was banned from driving for two years and three months and until he passes an extended test, which is something, I guess…

      Log In or Register to post comments
    • TriTaxMan
      March 17, 2022 at 3:39 pm
      0

      Yep basically anything to try

      Yep basically anything to try and get a lesser sentence for the driver.

      No matter if you are wearing hi viz/reflectives and have lights on that would put the sun to shame….. if a driver isn’t looking for a cyclist they won’t see them.

      The whole thing smacks of the driver thinking…. it’s 6.15am there won’t be anyone else about at this time of the morning I can carry a bit more speed through the roundabout.

      Log In or Register to post comments

Leave a Comment Cancel reply

You must be logged in to post a comment.

 

 

Read more...

Ratio converts SRAM T-Type mechanical for drop bar bikes
Ratio converts SRAM T-Type mechanical for drop bar bikes
tech news
0
LIVE BLOG
“Is this all part of the propaganda to dump on cyclists?” Anger after The Sun reshares footage of cyclist hit by van driver from 2023; Sprint expected after chaotic Vuelta weekend + more on the live blog
“Is this all part of the propaganda to dump on cyclists?” Anger after The Sun reshares footage of cyclist hit by van driver from 2023; Sprint expected after chaotic Vuelta weekend + more on the live blog
news
0
Lusso Womens Paragon Signature CB Bib Shorts
Lusso Womens Paragon Signature CB Bib Shorts
Good compression, good comfort and a superb easy-pee design
review
0
JetBlack launches £599 indoor trainer frame so you can leave your outdoor bike alone
JetBlack launches £599 indoor trainer frame so you can leave your outdoor bike alone
The adjustable Victory Indoor Trainer Frame removes the need to take an outdoor bike on and off a trainer – and a complete trainer-and-frame setup costs £899
tech news
6
The revolution and evolution of XC: How cross-country racing has changed in the UK and beyond
The revolution and evolution of XC: How cross-country racing has changed in the UK and beyond
Cross-country racing has changed massively from its humble beginnings. We take a look at the XC evolution over the last 40 years
feature
15
Lezyne Pro Sensor Pair
Lezyne Pro Sensor Pair
Does the job, but If the Pro Sensor Pair was half the price it would be a lot easier to recommend
review
2
Castelli Espresso 2 Cap Unisex
Castelli Espresso 2 Cap Unisex
Summer cap provides UV protection with impressive wicking and breathability
review
2
“The last lock you’ll ever need”: check out the £180 U-lock that’ll survive 10 angle grinder discs – plus the gravel bike that fits in a suitcase, the bike shoe brand now selling scent and loads more
“The last lock you’ll ever need”: check out the £180 U-lock that’ll survive 10 angle grinder discs – plus the gravel bike that fits in a suitcase, the bike shoe brand now selling scent and loads more
Feedback unveils “the world’s first lightweight and portable air lift bike repair stand”, the fastest gravel wheelset on the market, and more from Ridley, Exposure, Quirk, Assos, Shokz…
tech news
3

Read more...

Ratio converts SRAM T-Type mechanical for drop bar bikes
Ratio converts SRAM T-Type mechanical for drop bar bikes
tech news
0
The revolution and evolution of XC: How cross-country racing has changed in the UK and beyond
The revolution and evolution of XC: How cross-country racing has changed in the UK and beyond
feature
15
Revel Rascal SRAM XO mountain bike
Revel Rascal SRAM XO mountain bike
A fast, agile and lively bike which is a hoot to ride but watch out for the steeps
review
0
Do mountain bikes get more adjustable than this? Rocky Mountain’s Instinct and more from Giant, Tailfin, Insta360 and Cast
Do mountain bikes get more adjustable than this? Rocky Mountain’s Instinct and more from Giant, Tailfin, Insta360 and Cast
This week's Five Cool Things plus the best stories of the week
feature
0
Coaching is the best money you’ll ever spend on your mountain bike
Coaching is the best money you’ll ever spend on your mountain bike
New bikes are cool and all... but have you thought about investing in the engine that runs them?
blog
3
USWE Race 2.0 2L hydration pack
USWE Race 2.0 2L hydration pack
Superb hydration pack with excellent comfort and a brilliantly designed central clasp closure
review
1
Dunne, not dusted: 2025 world downhill bronze medallist Rónán Dunne on his comeback from big injury
Dunne, not dusted: 2025 world downhill bronze medallist Rónán Dunne on his comeback from big injury
The Irishman had a superb season last year, winning the Les Gets World Cup and taking third in the UCI Downhill World Championships. Things haven’t gone to plan in recent months but he’s back racing and he’s targeting a big end of season
feature
0
Alpinestars’ MotoGP-style airbag technology comes to mountain biking
Alpinestars’ MotoGP-style airbag technology comes to mountain biking
New airbag system claims to provide four-times the protection of standard inserts
tech news
0

Read more...

“County lines on wheels?” Ipswich abandons hire e-bikes after ‘safety’ concerns, Bafang launches powerful new motor, 16m micromobility trips in west of England plus more
“County lines on wheels?” Ipswich abandons hire e-bikes after ‘safety’ concerns, Bafang launches powerful new motor, 16m micromobility trips in west of England plus more
feature
7
E-bike confusion harming shops, as owner claims illegal bike owners “aggressive” when refused service
E-bike confusion harming shops, as owner claims illegal bike owners “aggressive” when refused service
news
26
Blanket e-bike ban from trains and stations will have “devastating impact”, say cycling campaigners – as rail operator refuses to meet with cyclists and share evidence behind “huge backward step”
Blanket e-bike ban from trains and stations will have “devastating impact”, say cycling campaigners – as rail operator refuses to meet with cyclists and share evidence behind “huge backward step”
Cycling UK launches formal complaint over operator's upcoming ban, citing complaints of riders who rely on e-bikes as mobility aids
news
53
Ahooga E-Max Alfine
Ahooga E-Max Alfine
Innovative and functional folder performs very well and should garner a strong following
review
0
Lime disabled in London district after blind resident claimed pavement-blocking e-bikes ‘forced him onto busy road’
Lime disabled in London district after blind resident claimed pavement-blocking e-bikes ‘forced him onto busy road’
Lime apologises and disables e-bikes in Penge after partially sighted residents highlight issues with poor e-bike parking
news
7
FLIT M2i folding e-bike weighs less than a Brompton Electric T Line – and costs half the price
FLIT M2i folding e-bike weighs less than a Brompton Electric T Line – and costs half the price
The 13.3kg Cambridge-built FLIT M2i is “the lightest fully folding premium e-bike” and is priced at £2,999
tech news
1
Gtechniq has Gore-Tex set in its sights as brand unveils ‘next-generation’ PFAS-free Fabric Proof
Gtechniq has Gore-Tex set in its sights as brand unveils ‘next-generation’ PFAS-free Fabric Proof
Fresh DWR spray promises high abrasion resistance, greater longevity and easy installation without forever chemicals
tech news
1
Police sergeant claims “under current legislation e-bikes are deemed to be motor vehicles” after targeted crackdown on illegal “nuisance” vehicles
Police sergeant claims “under current legislation e-bikes are deemed to be motor vehicles” after targeted crackdown on illegal “nuisance” vehicles
When approached by road.cc for comment, the sergeant clarified that “some e-bikes should be regarded as motor vehicles and hence require insurance and tax”
news
22

Latest Comments

OnYerBike 21 seconds ago

@Xenophon2 No-one has ever claimed any bike lock is "invincible". Angle grinder resistance is one of the most important selling points, because angle grinders are often the tool of choice for the serious thief. That said, these locks tend to stand up well to other forms of attack. Seatylock has a good article outlining the types of attack various certification schemes require locks to pass, several of which include cold and hammering attacks. Bike Radar did some pretty extensive destructive testing too. Despite spending an arguably unreasonable amount of time on the internet looking at bike-adjacent content, I am yet to come across a single case of one of these new generation angle grinder resistant locks being defeated in the "wild". There are other cases of thieves damaging bikes or stripping parts off bikes locked in that way, but if anything that simply highlights that the thief couldn't get through the lock with the tools at their disposal. It's pretty cold comfort if you come back to a locked frame stripped of all its parts, but as I said, you can't fault the lock - the lock did it's job. So whilst no-one is claiming these locks are invincible, all the evidence suggests they are pretty darn tough, and can't be easily defeated. If it was as simple as using some refrigerant spray and a hammer, I'm sure we would have heard about it. Clearly, even if the lock were undefeatable, it's still possible for a would-be thief to damage or destroy the bike, either in spite, or in attempting to defeat the lock. Components can also be stolen. It seems pretty unreasonable to fault the lock in those scenarios - the lock is doing it's job; you just have to accept that there are some risks a good lock can't do anything about. A good lock doesn't mean there's a magic forcefield around your bike protecting it from any and all damage/theft. Good locking technique can also help in some circumstances - I always recommend as a minimum putting the lock around the rear wheel, frame and bike rack. This means the thief can't simple cut the frame, or the rack, and then ride off with the bike to deal with the lock later (and yes, thieves have been known to ride off on bikes despite having cut through the top tube). It also means you bike is less likely to be accidentally knocked over, which can cause damage to the bike, as well as an obstruction to other road users. The bottom line is that it's about reducing risk, not eliminating risk entirely. You want to make your bike less attractive than the next one. If you've got a good lock, most thieves will simple move onto the next bike - if they can cut through the lock and ride off with a complete, working bike, that is generally the preferred option. (Links to follow in separate comment)

in: “The last lock you’ll ever need”: check out the £180 U-lock that’ll survive 10 angle grinder discs – plus the gravel bike that fits in a suitcase, the bike shoe brand now selling scent and loads more
Rendel Harris 9 minutes ago

@Smoggysteve Fair enough so! For me, with only two of us who can ride roughly the same size bikes (she rides 54 cm, me 56/58) a dedicated cheap secondhand bike would do the job but obviously if you want something that can be adjusted for kids and adults that's where this comes into its own.

in: JetBlack launches £599 indoor trainer frame so you can leave your outdoor bike alone
Smoggysteve 16 minutes ago

@Rendel Harris For me its partly adjustability, partly having something I can encourage the kids to use. My biggest issue is I might be ok putting my bike on my trainer , but because its disc brake and everyone else in my households bikes are all rim braked the adapters are different and then its storage etc . 1 bike everyone can use is much more attractive and for the fraction of the cost of buying something like a wattbike.

in: JetBlack launches £599 indoor trainer frame so you can leave your outdoor bike alone
Rendel Harris 28 minutes ago

@Smoggysteve Yes I get that, I was just wondering what the advantage is of a purpose-built frame like this or the Zwift bike compared to just having the same trainer with a dedicated standard bike? I can see that if several family members of significantly different size are going to use the trainer then the adjustability is definitely a selling point but I can't see much advantage for a sole user, apart from maybe that is aesthetically more pleasing.

in: JetBlack launches £599 indoor trainer frame so you can leave your outdoor bike alone
chrisonabike 31 minutes ago

And something of Led Zeppelin in "a whole lot of true, original, and relatable soul"?

in: The revolution and evolution of XC: How cross-country racing has changed in the UK and beyond
Sedis 36 minutes ago

@mdavidford Thanks, I'll try an remember to take a tape measure next time I'm walking that way.

in: “You’re not worried about the things that come out of nowhere”: Cyclists broadly support England’s first ‘Cycle Street’ but some concerned by £2.4 million “bleedin’ waste of money”
chrisonabike 36 minutes ago

I'm not getting the disapproval here? Some of this is right up there with the best of Mark V. Shaney's work on Usenet. It hovers, Dylanesque, between the trite and the incomprehensible:

in: The revolution and evolution of XC: How cross-country racing has changed in the UK and beyond
Smoggysteve 40 minutes ago

@Rendel Harris Thats just a trainer. im talking about the Zwift bike frame instead of your own outdoor bike. There is no other direct competition other than getting a wattbike or similar. I have a Tacx Neo 2 trainer I use. I looked at the Zwift bike specifically for its setup specifically and this is direct competition for that one particular item

in: JetBlack launches £599 indoor trainer frame so you can leave your outdoor bike alone
Rendel Harris 57 minutes ago

@Smoggysteve Genuine question, if budget is a consideration, as of course it is for most of us, why not buy one of the cheaper trainers that features Zwift Cog and Click, like the Van Rysel D100 (£279rrp) or D500 (£379 on special at Sigma Sports) and a sound and solid old bike to put on it permanently for £100 or less (easy to make a stand for the front fork if space is a consideration and you don't want to leave the front wheel on). £599 just for the frame seems an awful lot for what it is.

in: JetBlack launches £599 indoor trainer frame so you can leave your outdoor bike alone
Liam Mercer 1 hour ago

@mudfish Yep, FoD. My first session was with Wye MTB as part of a coaching/guiding package, the other two were with Sam at Katy Curd Coaching. Very thoroughly recommend both.

in: Coaching is the best money you’ll ever spend on your mountain bike

Most Popular News

1. “Is this all part of the propaganda to dump on cyclists?” Anger after The Sun reshares footage of cyclist hit by van driver from 2023; Sprint expected after chaotic Vuelta weekend + more on the live blog

2. “This has turned my stomach”: Crowdfunder for cyclist knocked off bike in “horrifying unprovoked incident” reaches almost £3,000 as youth charged with assault

3. Camera cyclist Dave Sherry laughed at by GB News presenters for correctly pointing out speed limits do not apply to cyclists during 20mph ‘debate’

4. “Officials who should know better, don’t”: Sadiq Khan criticised for describing electric police motorbikes as “e-bikes” as BBC amends misleading headline; ’50km climb’ awaits Vuelta peloton in finale

5. SUV driver arrested after swerving into cyclists and firing gun in shocking US road rage attack

6. E-bike confusion harming shops, as owner claims illegal bike owners “aggressive” when refused service

7. Tacks reportedly found on final fast descent of Vuelta a España stage, sparking safety concerns

8. Invest £30 million in safe cycling schemes to leave lasting legacy for British Tour de France Grands Départs, prime minister told

Award-winning cycling news, reviews and buying advice

QUICK LINKS

  • About us
  • News
  • Reviews
  • Buyers Guides
  • Features
  • Tech
  • Forum
  • Opinion
  • Podcast
  • Recommends
  • Shop
  • Bicycle Insurance

FOLLOW US ON

preferred-google-button
rcc-facebook
rcc-youtube
rcc-insta
rcc-threads
rcc-bluesky
rcc-whatsapp
rcc-rss

Our Websites

GET IN TOUCH

Editorial, general: info@road.cc
Tech, reviews: tech@road.cc
Advertising, commercial: sales@fat.digital
View our media pack

Privacy policy

Support us

Subscribe

All material © Farrelly Atkinson (F-At) Limited, Unit 7b Green Park Station BA11JB. Tel 01225 588855. © 2008–present unless otherwise stated. Terms and conditions of use

offroad_logo
Mountain bike and gravel cycling reviews, news and advice

QUICK LINKS

  • About us
  • News
  • Reviews
  • Buyers Guides
  • Features
  • Trail Guides
  • Blog

FOLLOW US ON

rcc-facebook
rcc-youtube
rcc-insta
rcc-threads
rcc-bluesky
rcc-rss

Our Websites

roadcc-logo

GET IN TOUCH

Editorial, tech and reviews: info@off.road.cc
Advertising, commercial: sales@fat.digital
View our media pack

Privacy policy

Support us

Subscribe

All material © Farrelly Atkinson (F-At) Limited, Unit 7b Green Park Station BA11JB. Tel 01225 588855. © 2008–present unless otherwise stated. Terms and conditions of use

Electric bike reviews, news and advice

QUICK LINKS

  • About us
  • News
  • Reviews
  • Buyers Guides
  • Features
  • Blog

FOLLOW US ON

rcc-facebook
rcc-youtube
rcc-insta
rcc-threads
rcc-bluesky
rcc-rss

Our Websites

roadcc-logo

GET IN TOUCH

Editorial, tech and reviews: info@ebiketips.road.cc
Advertising, commercial: sales@fat.digital
View our media pack

Privacy policy

Support us

Subscribe

All material © Farrelly Atkinson (F-At) Limited, Unit 7b Green Park Station BA11JB. Tel 01225 588855. © 2008–present unless otherwise stated. Terms and conditions of use