Letting agent staff accused of vandalising cycle lane wands; Pogacar forced to push fan out of the way on TDF stage 17; Rose Bikes no longer shipping to UK; Wheelie hour record smashed; Brailsford critics “moronic”, says Vaughters + more on the live blog
SUMMARY
The alternative lives of the riders in the Tour de France Panini album
Number 1. Shane Archbold, meth cook from the Louisiana bayou. pic.twitter.com/vkDh9HrKoM
— tom owen (@tomowencc) September 15, 2020
Tom Owen has re-imagined what some of pro cycling’s biggest stars would be doing if they weren’t pro cyclists – do you think the observations are spot on?
Hugh Carthy, singer in mid-2000s indie band called something like The Twiglets or The Bang Bangs pic.twitter.com/dAivV8Wyhe
— tom owen (@tomowencc) September 15, 2020
Michael Morkov, kindly therapist operating out of Copenhagen’s trendy Vesterbro neighbourhood. Collects vintage port. pic.twitter.com/QtNc3ElYLr
— tom owen (@tomowencc) September 15, 2020
Cyril Barthe is a 16th century libertine who died of syphilis aged 28, leaving behind four illegitimate children and a single volume of quite bad poetry. pic.twitter.com/uEiyiClB0M
— tom owen (@tomowencc) September 15, 2020
Jose Joaquin Rojas competes on the amateur over-40s mixed martial arts circuit in the northwest of England and works on the doors at a nightclub called at the Tropical Lounge in Wigan that is anything but tropical. pic.twitter.com/0QneEmWE9V
— tom owen (@tomowencc) September 15, 2020
Richie Carapaz got excluded for setting off the fire alarm three times in a single day at your secondary school. Your mum says you’re not to hang about with him. pic.twitter.com/NtbUj60X99
— tom owen (@tomowencc) September 15, 2020
Bernal pulls out of the Tour ahead of stage 17
The young Colombian has thrown in the towel, after struggling to make an impact and losing huge chunks of time to Primož Roglič in the mountains.
A short statement (that has crashed the Ineos Grenadiers website at the time of writing) from Sir Dave Brailsford says: “We have taken this decision with Egan’s best interests at heart. Egan is a true champion who loves to race, but he is also a young rider, with many Tours ahead of him and at this point, on balance, we feel it is wiser for him to stop racing.”
Egan Bernal said: “This is obviously not how I wanted my Tour de France to end, but I agree that it is the right decision for me in the circumstances. I have the greatest respect for this race and I am already looking forward to coming back in the years ahead.”
Is Brailsford now ruing that big decision not to include Chris Froome or Geraint Thomas in his squad?
Bernal is the first defending champion to pull out of the Tour since... a certain Chris Froome
🇨🇴 @Eganbernal has abandoned the #TDF2020.
🔎He is the first defending champion to abandon the Tour since 🇬🇧 Chris Froome, in 2014. pic.twitter.com/PIUAZrzl0c
— Tour de France™ (@LeTour) September 16, 2020
And the last one before Froome? Bernard Hinault in 1980. It really has been all or nothing for Ineos since they began dominating in 2012.
Brailsford: Ineos need to "go back to the drawing board"
Speaking to reporters yesterday evening, Brailsford admitted that Ineos need to go away and have a re-think if they are to compete with Jumbo-Visma next year.
He said: “Have we got to go back to the drawing board? Totally, and that’s quite exciting in some respects. We’ve got to put together a team and a coaching staff that can deliver and try and win the race again.”
Denying that he “took a gamble” with selections, Brailsford stood by his decision not to take Chris Froome or Geraint Thomas to the Tour, adding: “I don’t gamble.
“People are entitled to their opinions, but I didn’t gamble with selection. They were big decisions. Sometimes they work, sometimes they don’t. I’m sure that people have a lot to say but they’re not privy to the facts that I’ve got.
“It was a good decision, regardless of what anybody else may think.”
Pierre Rolland retweets competition to win a polka dot jersey
Mais LOOOOOL @PierroooRolland 🤣🤣
Allez une madeleine demain puis digestion tranquille, une remise à l’ouvrage jeudi et c’est bonb😜
— Damien Jacobs (@Dam3210) September 15, 2020
It appears Rolland has a back-up plan if he doesn’t manage to wrestle the real thing from Benoit Cosnefroy, comically retweeting the competition above.
Rose reportedly no longer shipping bikes to the UK due to 'legal reasons'
Shocking news, it turns out Rose Bikes is no longer supplying the U.K. market due to the braking setup. A friend shared this message with me below… Real shame after my review the excellent Reveal recently pic.twitter.com/TazhAubObi
— david arthur (@davearthur) September 15, 2020
The German retailers will no longer be sending bikes to the UK, according to a message reportedly send to a potential customer.
Rose say it’s because they are now only setting up brakes ‘Euro style’, and as they’re not allowed to send bikes here with the brakes set up the other way round/not set up, that gives them no option but to pull out of the UK. They say it’s also not possible to get around it by ordering from Rose’s overseas sites, as they’ve blocked deliveries to UK addresses.
The letter also says: “Furthermore, we do not sell any single frames or forks for dumping protection reasons.
“At this point in time, we cannot say if and when ordering for UK citizens will be possible again.”
road.cc have contacted Rose Bikes for more details – but as their UK website no longer includes bikes for sale, we can all but confirm the news.
British Cycling confirm men's squad for Road World Championships
The hastily rearranged event will now be held in Imola, Italy, and Team GB have now announced their elite men’s squad. Some big names are missing because of preparations for the Giro d’Italia and Vuelta a Espana, but Performance director Stephen Park said he is “confident” the team will get some good results. The selections are:
Elite Men’s Road Race
Hugh Carthy
Matt Holmes
James Knox
Tom Pidcock
Luke Rowe
James Shaw
Elite Men’s Time Trial
Alex Dowsett
Geraint Thomas
The wheelie hour record has been broken... and now stands at a wheelie fast 30.95km
On an athletics track just in Gümligen just outside of Bern, Switzerland, Manuel Scheidegger smashed the previous record for the farthest distance travelled in one hour while doing a front wheelie. The previous mark was 25.86km, and Scheidegger destroyed it by going 30.95km in the 60 minutes. The rules stipulate that the rider’s front wheel must never touch the ground throughout the whole attempt.
We’re not sure if Scheidegger’s attempt has been ratified by Guinness World Records yet, but he’s uploaded the activity to Strava if you want to analyse more details. It’s not the first rodeo for this Swiss wheelie specialist either, as back in June, Scheidegger completed the first wheelie’d everesting. It took him over 21 hours, with all challenges raising funds for the Wheels for Nepal charity.
The 'queen stage' is underway, minus Egan Bernal
🚩 Wheels are rolling, the “queen stage” is underway!
🚩 Les coureurs sont partis, l’étape reine du #TDF2020 est lancée !#TDF2020 #TDFunited pic.twitter.com/V4sz3KF9MI
— Tour de France™ (@LeTour) September 16, 2020
Stefan Küng of Groupama FDJ has also dropped out to focus on the world championship time trial.
Jonathan Vaughters says criticism of Brailsford's team selection is "moronic", and has another pop at Lance Armstrong
Dave Brailsford and myself aren’t the best of friends, but good grief, the number of outright moronic comments regarding his #tdf rider selection is astounding. @INEOSGrenadiers picked the best team they could based on the data available. End of.
— Jonathan Vaughters (@Vaughters) September 16, 2020
As the current EF Pro Cycling manager references, he hasn’t always seen eye to eye with Brailsford (once suggesting that Bradley Wiggins’ 2012 Tour de France victory would always be blemished by his use of a TUE), but has slammed some of the criticism Brailsford has received over his team selection.
“@INEOSGrenadiers picked the best team they could based on the data available. End Of”, said Vaughters.
Lance is bitter and vindictive. End of story.
— Jonathan Vaughters (@Vaughters) September 16, 2020
He also had time to reiterate his thoughts on a certain Lance Armstrong when asked a question about Jumbo Visma’s Sepp Kuss moving to EF Pro Cycling, calling the disgraced Texan “bitter and vindictive.”
“And, I might add, totally out of touch with modern cycling. #livinginthepast”, added Vaughters.
Rose rumours roll on, as German bike retailer reportedly stops selling to the UK
Who knows. There’s plenty of evidence that they’ve been struggling to keep the wheels turning during COVID times. Maybe they figured the UK wasn’t worth the hassle given Brexit is around the corner.
— Jez Ash (@supremerouleur) September 16, 2020
Are Rose 100% definitely no longer selling bikes to UK customers, and is it all because they are refusing to set up bikes front brake/right? We’ve not heard back from them and the rumours are flying, after a would-be Rose customer claims they received this letter below.
Shocking news, it turns out Rose Bikes is no longer supplying the U.K. market due to the braking setup. A friend shared this message with me below… Real shame after my review the excellent Reveal recently pic.twitter.com/TazhAubObi
— david arthur (@davearthur) September 15, 2020
Ddi you have your eye on a Rose, and have you heard otherwise? Let us know in the comments or email us at info@road.cc
Apple launching a virtual fitness subscription service 'to rival Peloton'
Costing just £10 a month or £80 a year, Apple’s new Fitness+ service features “world-class workouts by the world’s top fitness trainers” according to the tech giants, and will be viewed as serious competition to the likes of Peloton, Les Mills and Fiit. This coincides with the launch of the sixth generation Apple Watch, which now has plenty of extra detailed features (blood oxygen levels anyone?) to tempt serious athletes as well as more casual users.
There are spin sessions and many other sports/exercises on Fitness+, with many of the floor workout designed so they can be done in hotel rooms, at the park or in your living room: “It’s easy to turn any place into a state-of-the-art studio”, say Apple.
For Apple Watch users, Fitness+ will also recommend workouts and training plans based off activity tracking from your watch. You’ll also get three months of Fitness+ for free.
For more info, head over to the Fitness+ landing page on the Apple website.
Square Mile workers, visitors and residents say cycling is the most effective way to tackle climate change, according to survey
In a survey of over 2,600 people carried out by the City of London Corporation, 59% said that better cycling provisions and renewable energy were the most important things for tackling climate change. 49% said they would prioritise changing the way they travel, and 95% said that combating climate change was important.
The survey also found that those aged between 25-34 were keenest to make changes. Catherine McGuinness, Policy Chair at the City of London Corporation, said: “It is clear that tackling the global climate crisis is a top priority for many City workers, residents and visitors, and we share their desire for change.
“Together we will build a greener City, where we can all play our part.
“These results will be built in to our Climate Action Strategy, which will reduce the City’s carbon emissions and ensure we are resilient to climate change.”
The City Corporation say they have invested heavily to achieve their goal of becoming net-zero emission and climate resilient in the future, including the introduction of a City-wide speed limit of 20mph, the UK’s first 24/7 zero-emission vehicle street at Beech Street, and the ‘All Change at Bank’ scheme which they claim has transformed a former accident hotspot. They also plan to expand the existing Square Mile cycling network, introduce more cycle parking and potentially introduce a new 15mph speed limit.
Riders neutralise second stage of Tour of Luxembourg in protest due to dangerous course conditions
#SkodaTour
The riders will ride in a neutralized cortege to the final circuit where a new start will be given in Syren. pic.twitter.com/fETA8N0HSP— ŠKODA TOUR LUXEMBOURG (@skodatour) September 16, 2020
There were numerous complaints among the riders and team staff about cars in the road, including a near miss with a tractor, which meant that all teams agreed to neutralise stage two after just 18km.
Nicolas Guillé – who was driving AG2R La Mondiale’s team car, told Direct Velo: “We already complained about a lack of security after the first stage. There were cars all over the place.
“This start of the second stage was a continuation of what we saw yesterday, with vehicles travelling in the opposite direction of the race. It was really dangerous, so we decided to stop.”
After some negotiations, the neutralised peloton agreed to ride to the finish circuit in Syren for a restart and a 42.5km modified stage, which was won by Arnaud Demare of Groupama FDJ.
Tour de France stage 17: will Carapaz hold on?
With 5km to go, 🇪🇨 @RichardCarapazM counts a 45″ lead!
A 5km de l’arrivée, 🇪🇨 @RichardCarapazM dispose toujours d’une avance de 45″ !#TDF2020 pic.twitter.com/nhAk6PMEts
— Tour de France™ (@LeTour) September 16, 2020
There’s around 3km or so to go now, and the GC group are less than 30 seconds away from the Colombian. Meanwhile, Mikel Landa got dropped like a stone…
Oh Landa… pic.twitter.com/NW2hrkkJ0y
— Joe Bone (@josefbone) September 16, 2020
They've got him
💛 The battle for the GC is on! 🇨🇴 @SupermanlopezN is the first to attack. Roglic, Kuss and Pogacar follow.
💛 La bataille pour le classement général est lancée ! 🇨🇴 Miguel Angel Lopez y va. Roglic, Kuss et Pogacar sont les seuls à suivre.#TDF2020 #TDFunited pic.twitter.com/EIYLGTtkjb
— Tour de France™ (@LeTour) September 16, 2020
Carapaz is caught, Roglic looks pretty infallible and let Sepp Kuss go for the stage win… but Kuss went back for Roglic, and now Miguel Angel Lopez of Astana will take the stage.
Roglic goes after Lopez
There’s Teletubbies on the course. It’s going mad!
Roglic remains in the driving seat!#TDF2020 pic.twitter.com/H4Um9uoD5h
— ITV Cycling (@itvcycling) September 16, 2020
Roglic looks to put more time between himself and Tadej Pogačar, but his compatriot is coming back fast.
Miguel Ángel López wins stage 17, Roglic extends overall lead
🏆 @SupermanlopezN wins at the Col de la Loze!
🏆 @SupermanlopezN s’impose au Col de la Loze !@Continental_fr #TDF2020 pic.twitter.com/ZMcPeAOpOV
— Tour de France™ (@LeTour) September 16, 2020
It looked like Pogačar was going to catch Roglic on that brutal final kilometre… but the yellow jersey held on and then some, even managing to put a valuable few extra seconds into Pogačar – full stage report here.
More TDF fan behaviour concerns, as Pogacar is forced to push a fan out of the way on final climb
Pogacar pushes away too-close fan. pic.twitter.com/CWpBkhcwYN
— DANIEL McMAHON (@cyclingreporter) September 16, 2020
Lots of dickheads on the road.
Pogacar getting distanced. He’s not having a good time in this crowd. pic.twitter.com/9LwGr3DoDt
— VeloVoices (@VeloVoices) September 16, 2020
Lots of idiots on this climb, unfortunately.
— Richard Moore (@richardmoore73) September 16, 2020
The Slovenian was seen pushing a fan back with around 2km to go, which obviously shouldn’t be happening during a global pandemic. Some have called for barriers to be installed on climbs, or at least ensure that riders are given more space.
Cracking end to the #TDF2020 stage 17 today, but really disappointing to see so many fans still shouting in the faces of passing riders while not wearing masks. There’s a pandemic on, lads. Sort yourselves out, you’re a disgrace. #cycling
— Phill Tromans (@PhillTromans) September 16, 2020
Looked like fans got in the way of Pogacar when Lopez attacked too. They really need to give riders more space, and even more during an effing pandemic.
— Niamh Lewis (@lewis_niamh) September 16, 2020
Last week, Movistar Team and Andre Greipel were among those calling for fans to wear masks and respect the riders, after TV footage captured a number of maskless spectators getting too close to riders in the Pyrenees.
Movistar pleaded: “Please wear a mask, use it correctly, and keep some distance. Do it for us and the rest of the field.”
How do you think the Tour’s idiot problem should be solved?
Golf more dangerous than cycling, according to new survey
Ok, that might be twisting the truth a little… but a new study from Golf Support has found that by ranking the percentage of participants who have picked up injuries while playing/doing their sport, cycling only just makes the top 10.
Football tops the list, with 71% of players reporting that they have picked up an injury, and darts is the ‘safest’ with just 18% reporting injuries (how 18% of darts players managed to pick up an injury is surely the question that needs asking here).
The most common reason given for injuries were ‘another person’s carelessness’ (something cyclists can definitely relate to), while three in five said they required medical attention after sustaining their injury.
Birmingham letting agent employees accused of vandalising cycle lane wands to park their cars
These wands have been in for 1 HOUR and the staff at @MartinCoUK have already tried to destroy them. A tale in 4 videos.@BCC_Help @bhamconnected @BCRbirmingham 1/4 pic.twitter.com/1MjuVSNNDg
— Sophie Watson 🚲 (@swat_transport) September 15, 2020
In the footage, a driver is shown parking inside a cycle lane with recently installed ‘wands’ on Carver Street in Birmingham. At least five cars are parked inside the cycle lane – rendering it useless – and after attempting to bend a wand and pull it out of the ground, two people are then shown unscrewing and removing it entirely.
This man owns the white Audi directly behind and could have easily reversed out the way. They’d rather unscrew the wand and take it inside. 3/4 pic.twitter.com/cSiSnQ02yL
— Sophie Watson 🚲 (@swat_transport) September 15, 2020
Sophie Watson, who uploaded the footage to Twitter, said: “Cones have been here for 3 weeks now and I’m pretty sure all cars here belong to staff at the branch. Plenty of room left in front and behind to get out. I just wish I could say I was shocked watching this.”
Update: wand has been put back. 5 cars have appeared in the cycle lane this morning. Will this ever be usable?! 😤 pic.twitter.com/vRyzDtaWLA
— Sophie Watson 🚲 (@swat_transport) September 16, 2020
This is criminal damage and theft.
They need reporting to the Police and the Council for this.— Dom from cyclicalmonkeys.com (@Tdr1nka) September 15, 2020
Should not be parking there in the first bleeding place!!! Absolutely stupid!
— ARK (@KindRandomAct) September 16, 2020
Today the missing wand appears to have returned, but the cycle lane still cannot be used because of cars parked within it. The policing unit for the Jewellery Quarter area of Birmingham have now said they will “try and get someone down to speak to the owners of the vehicles”. The people in the footage allegedly work for property management company Martin & Co.
16 September 2020, 08:32
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16 September 2020, 08:32
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73 Newtons in this planet's gravity is the equivalent of 7.44 kgf (kilogram force). Although kgf has largely been superseded by Newtons as a measure of force it is still used in China, by the European space agency and various other bodies. So no, not misremembering, not mischaracterising, and not research done by unqualified persons. https://www.forensicmed.co.uk/pathology/head-injury/skull-fracture/
One thing to keep in mind is that cracks in helmets are usually the result of tensile forces as the plastic foam is strong under compression, but weak under tension. It's possible that the crack formed due to the forces applied elsewhere e.g. if you snap a piece of spaghetti (or a Shimano crank), the break is not where you're holding it and applying force.
Yes. What a shitshow
[img]https://static.standard.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2012/01/03/09/bald-squirrel-415x275.jpg[/img]
Dagnammit - have road.cc stopped the img tags from working?
"caused by a force as low as 10kgs" This sentence does not make much sense. Either you are misremembering or mischaracterising whatever research this was, or else this research you are quoting was done by people unqualified in this area.
Speak for yourself, why not [img]https://static.standard.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2012/01/03/09/bald-squirrel-415x275.jpg[/img]
Well, they (medical professionals) almost always make "life-saving" claims about helmets though they're typically not that well versed in how bike helmets are designed to work (i.e. reducing acceleration by the foam compressing). Also, their view is skewed as they usually only see alive cyclists who've had a collision, so they're not in a good position to evaluate how effective helmets are. Again, the issue with bike helmets is not whether they do or do not provide some protection (they obviously do), but whether the cycling population is well served by focussing on PPE such as helmets instead of focussing on road traffic safety measures (e.g. increased enforcement of traffic laws, providing separate infrastructure etc). I mean, you never seem to hear of medical professionals stating how many lives have been saved by separated infrastructure even when stats across different countries suggest that they are much more effective in reducing the general danger level that cyclists face.
Genuine question, how much of that increased likelihood is attributable to the fact that less confident/ more nervous riders might be more likely to wear a helmet and also more likely to have a crash, and also to the fact that people are more likely to wear helmets in a perceived-risk environment? If all urban commuters wear helmets and nobody who rides on quiet country roads wears a helmet, obviously the urban commuters are going to be have more collisions and so the figures would show riders with helmets have more collisions but it would be primarily attributable to the environment, not the helmets. Is there any research that shows that amongst a cohort of riders of similar experience and ability, riding in the same type of environment, those wearing helmets will have more collisions?
They really aren't that tough, researchers have found that a simple skull fracture can be caused by a force as low as 10kgs; it has been known for people to fracture their skulls simply by walking into a door frame, and a very significant proportion of fractured skulls come from simple low-impact falls when walking. The idea that hair can protect you from abrasions is pretty risible, maybe if it was woven into a mat it might but on your head it's in individual strands; try running your fingernails over your scalp, does the hair protect you? No, it parts. Now imagine your fingernails are a rough road surface, the same thing would happen. None of this particularly is meant as a pro-helmet argument, but if you think you can rely on your skull and your hair to get you out of a crash undamaged I'm afraid you might well end up severely disappointed.
42 thoughts on “Letting agent staff accused of vandalising cycle lane wands; Pogacar forced to push fan out of the way on TDF stage 17; Rose Bikes no longer shipping to UK; Wheelie hour record smashed; Brailsford critics “moronic”, says Vaughters + more on the live blog”
I love those alt-text
I love those alt-text descriptions for the sticker album pictures!
LOL chapeau, Tom Owen !
LOL chapeau, Tom Owen !
I love Dave Brailsford.. he really is the master of stating the obvious.
Froome and Thomas must be
Froome and Thomas must be shitting themselves about getting dropped as lead rider for the Vuelta and Giro to make way for Bernal
Why? Thomas being displaced
Why? Thomas being displaced seems unlikely unless they can diagnose and fix whats wrong with Bernal in the next 2 weeks or so as the Giro starts on the 2nd.
Froome might have cause to worry but – but on his current form he’d find it argued that his place should be guaranteed. It may come down to who wins the recovery race between his long term injuries and what evers going on with Bernal.
If I was Brailsford I’d be considering pulling Carapaz from the Giro for the Vuelta based on fitness – no idea if the Vuelta suits his style but him and Thomas seem to be the only ones reasonably race-ready.
Or he mentally bins off the Vuelta and doubles down on winning the Giro.
I thought they said Bernals
I thought they said Bernals back pain had shifted his position on the bike to protect it,which has then caused knee pain problems. Both of which require time off bike to recover properly so chucking him into any GT this year would be a bad idea imo as it will just keep flaring up if you rush it and each flare up takes longer to recover, Ineos have multiple riders capable of winning a GT precisely so you dont have to burn out your star future riders if you dont need to.
Ultimately Froome wasnt
Ultimately Froome wasnt remotely fit enough to compete and Geraint, while a lot better was in a similar position (his own fault presumably as I dont think he had any injuries to overcome?)
Coming 2nd in the Tirenno is not the same as coming 1st at the TDF considering all the strongest riders are currently at the Tour.
Genuinely looking forward to seeing what they can do at the Giro and Vuelta though, very intriguing
Rose bikes; yet another
Rose bikes; yet another “benefit” of Brexit?
I don’t think it’s entirely
I don’t think it’s entirely related to Brexit – the regulations that require bikes sold in the UK to have the brakes the “right” way around have existed for some time. Rose bikes have just decided that as a result of their new production methods they will no longer be fitting brakes that way around and therefore can’t sell to UK customers.
Of course, it’s not a massive leap to think that Brexit might have been weighing on their mind when they took that decision…
TBH, their market share in
TBH, their market share in Britain probably doesn’t justify the cost to have a dedicated production line to change the brakes over. Especially if extra taxes and stuff might come into effect from 31st December.
Reading through the post by
Reading through the post by Dave Arthur and also parts of Rose’s website it seems that they have moved some of the assembly from in house to other contractors. The result of this will be that they have moved from a made to order model to a made for stock model. So rather than have a small percentage set up for the UK they have decided to withdraw from the UK market. They’ll not be missed, the bikes themselves were never as keenly priced as the UK based direct sellers nor marketed as well as those of Canyon. They therefore struggled to gain enough traction in this country.
roadrunner23 wrote:
Speak for yourself, I’ll miss them! Who else offered that level of customisation at that price? Even without the customisation (saves you a lot of money very quickly if you like odd sized cranks or don’t want pro-elite gearing on your bike…) they were well priced for a very nice product in the flesh.
I think we had this discussion on a Ribble thread somewhere else on the site, Ribble might look as good value until you started digging in to the component choices, at best Ribble were on a par with Rose, certainly not more ‘keenly’ priced.
It’s a moot point though, even if they were still shipping to UK they’re not doing customisation, so I’ll be looking elsewhere for my next bike sadly.
OnYerBike wrote:
Is this actually a regulation?, Mason Cycles for one will allow you to configure your brakes the other way round when you configure your bike, are they breaking the law?
perhaps Mason can offer it as
perhaps Mason can offer it as they don’t import complete built bikes so no customs checks
It is British Standard at
It is British Standard at point of sale, so in theory Mason shouldn’t do it. Now they might offer it as a post sales option which should be legal though, IE, they sell it one way, you pay for that and then ask the team to make changes after the sale has gone through.
I am not a lawyer nor have
I am not a lawyer nor have any form of legal training/background, but it does appear to be a regulation: https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2010/198/regulation/4/made
If the bike is not fully assembled, then it appears Regulation 5 applies instead, which only requires the bike to be supplied in a manner which is capable of being assembled to comply with Regulation 4. So it’s possible this is a legal workaround (although my reading would be that if so, the bike would have to be supplied with instructions which tell you to “assemble” the bike by removing the brake levers and re-attaching them on the “correct” side in order to comply fully).
However, my hunch would be that Mason etc. are not technically compliant with the law, but no-one really cares enough to check.
They appear to still be
They appear to still be selling bikes through their Irish site (Rosebikes.ie).
Not sure what is an acceptable brake setup for the Irish Republic.
Not the UK one but the EU one
Not the UK one but the EU one I suspect.
Idiotic comment ;-(
Idiotic comment ;-(
Brexit ftw 😉
Defending champion pulls out.
Defending champion pulls out… “It really has been all or nothing for Ineos since they began dominating in 2012” and yet there were so few non Sky/Ineos defending champions to do any abandoning that the stat is meaningless. You might as well say that since 1980 a full third of abandoning champions have been French, called Bernard, and ridden for Renault. Or indeed pointed out that a shocking 40% of sick days are taken on Fridays or Mondays.
Hopefully Sir Jim, will give
Hopefully Sir Jim, will give Sir Dave a wake up call. Sir Dave screwed up by dropping Froomy and G from the Tour line up, Bernal was not respected enough to be given full screw status, and he’s too young ( Bernal not Brailsford). Hopefully they’ll learn and move on.
Eh? Froome’s obviously so
Eh? Froome’s obviously so far from TfD winning form your comment is ludicrous. Thomas you may have a point but bascially that would have removed him from Giro contention. Without hindsight Bernal was the right choice for TdF, presupposing they thought he was ok form-wise.
What on earth does full screw status mean? Are you suggesting the team didnt work for Bernal?
It’s that time of year then.
It’s that time of year then.
Re; Rose Bikes, they stopped
Re; Rose Bikes, they stopped selling their range of e-bikes to UK and Ireland over a year ago so it’s a bit surprising it’s taken them this long to follow suit with their other bikes.
Uber’s self-driving operator
Uber’s self-driving operator charged over fatal crash
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-54175359
Over here the person would
Over here the person would have been free to go after 6 months. That is why deaths should not have such a short window for investigation.
We are Apple. We will add
We are Apple. We will add your biological and technological distinctiveness to our own. Your culture will adapt to service us. Resistance is futile.
brooksby wrote:
Genius.
Seems very short sighted of
Seems very short sighted of Rose. Surely it would not be beyond the wit of removing a UK-destined bike from the line and have a tech wire the brakes the UK way, for a modest upcharge.
Oh well, its an opportunity for UK builders to step up and compete.
Yes, but it’s an extra cost
Yes, but it’s an extra cost that they clearly don’t want to
put(edited:) ‘pay’. I wonder what proportion of their sales are made to the UK.“Surely it would not be
“Surely it would not be beyond the wit of removing a UK-destined bike from the line and have a tech wire the brakes the UK way, for a modest upcharge.”
For “Uk way” substitute ‘proper’ way!
Someone on Twitter implied
Someone on Twitter implied the bikes are now already boxed before it’s known where it will be shipped to. So it’s not “take it off the line”, it’s “take it out of the warehouse, unbox it, swap it, rebox it” at the shipping stage.
Obviously it could it still be done at a cost. Does it makes more sense to drop UK sales altogether than charge extra for that stage? I assume Rose’s accountants considered it carefully, while anticipating imminent extra costs from a crash-out Brexit.
(I’ve no idea what the “dumping protection” thing on frames and forks is.)
Thames tunnel will cost
Thames tunnel will cost nearly £2bn over 30 years, TfL figures show
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/sep/16/thames-tunnel-will-cost-nearly-2bn-over-30-years-tfl-figures-show
Kind of puts the amounts spent on cycling infrastructure into scale, doesn’t it…?
thats cheap in comparison to
thats cheap in comparison to the Lower Thames crossing which Highways England are estimating will cost 6.8billion, its cost per mile of route means its more expensive than even HS2
Motorists get subsidised to
Motorists get subsidised to the hilt, but it’s never enough for them.
I suspect adding an extra
I suspect adding an extra seperated lane for cycists was out of the question. (Could always be the safety evacuation tunnel and used by cyclists when not in use)
TBH whilst the Blackwall tunnel needs to be updated or replaced, especially the northern one, from the plans for this everything still needs to get down the A2 to get to it and that is bad enough at the moment.
‘I could have died’ – Cyclist
‘I could have died’ – Cyclist crashes head-first into bus windscreen
https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/i-could-died-cyclist-crashes-4520152
There are comments BTL, if you’re feeling brave (I wasn’t).
Some usual stuff (“this
Some usual stuff (“this proves that helmets save lives” yadda, “cyclists on pavements” yadda, “militant” yadda) but also a few pointing out that the bus was too close
“A typical display of
“A typical display of incompetence by your lycra-clad, gammon-faced hobbyists. Not paying attention to the road surfaces, not assessing where he was going.
Had Gerry contributed to the upkeep of the motorist-funded roads network, there would have no doubt been funds to keep the road gutters (where cyclists belong) in a usable condition. ALAS he did not and they did not.
And we haven’t even started on the inconvenience and delay caused to all the bus passengers due to the actions of this psycholist.” – BradleyWoggins
Not sure what a ‘psycholist’ is, but they did well in the bingo list. (though I doubt the track suit bottoms or flash gordon tshirt are lycra).
I suppose this is the sort of lowish speed event that helmets are certified for, but if he takes away ‘helmet’ rather than checking the road ahead, proximity of vehicles, road position, he is going to become a cropper.
brooksby]
I couldn’t resist.
Has anyone from Martin & Co
Has anyone from Martin & Co been contacted for a comment? Deliberate vandalism, illegal parking, obstruction of the highway. I’m sure there are more offences but that’s enough to be going on with.
May I suggest that any local cyclists contact the firm and make it very clear that the company won’t be getting any business from them. Has this been reported in the local media?
Lots of tweets in the thread
Lots of tweets in the thread copying them in and someone also emailed the MD.
However one reply indicates that they were arseholes stealing all the nearby redidential parking at a previous location so must be here as well.
The area had been coned off and lined off as non parking bays for weeks and they just still carried on moving the cones. The council should have had a tow truck ready to remove the vehicles that were illegally parked and stopping essential road works from taking place in the first place or sent the ticketer up the street several times.
I hadn’t realised that those
I hadn’t realised that those things just screw back in. I’ll have to start just replacing the ones near my office when they end up on the footpath, rather than phoning the council.