It had to happen… Thanks to Vecchiojo for not having anything better to do all day and spotting this
Schleck Contador… chains: Hitler has his say
Wed, Jul 21, 2010 11:57
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chrisonabike 6 minutes ago
...(so assuming they're "type-approved" if MOT exists) ... and have the appropriate category on your driving licence (or presumably have done your CBT and have an L-plate), have got that insurance, wear an appropriate helmet and only ride on the road in accordance with the conditions for that kind of vehicle... but other than that, it's basically order on the Internet and go...
bensynnock 22 minutes ago
You can buy legal electric motorbikes and mopeds. https://www.flexelectric.co.uk/category/e-mopeds You'd think some of these were illegal if you saw them, but they have an MOT from new and can be insured. You'd want to carry your documents with you.
Andrewbanshee 33 minutes ago
Has anyone ridden any of the Forestry England dirt courses? Some of them are pretty hairy and could definitely be deemed dangerous. Dalby forest has seen a fair few of my friends injured on some of the more gnarly downhills. These are the routes they are saying the youngsters are allowed on, rather than a well designed pump track with ramps, which would be an excellent introduction to the more challenging routes throughout the forest. Their proposal of a redesign will no doubt turn out to be a sanitised version of what they are removing. As an oldster, child of the 70's I don't remember any serious injuries from all the 'dangerous' stuff we did.
philhubbard 40 minutes ago
@ErgoKnees the riders family asked for it to continue and as Rendel mentioned, neutralised stages are generally a nightmare (one to manage and two for the riders). Granted, blame has to be with the race organiser but road closures simply come down to a matter of cost. The TdF can afford this, smaller races can't. Instead of the UCI taking a fee they should be treating these races like a loss leader and supporting them to improve safety measures like using police rather than volunteers and using the proper barriers.
mdavidford 44 minutes ago
Even your correction of the correction isn't quite right. It's perfectly legal for an EAPC (not EPAC) to be able to go more than 15.5 mph - its just that the motor has to cut out above that speed. Also, it isn't necessarily illegal to use a bike that doesn't meet the EAPC requirements, provided you first get a vehicle approval and find someone willing to insure it (though, in practice, next to nobody's going to bother with all that when they can mostly just go out and ride them without and no-one will do anything about it).
Circles 52 minutes ago
edjz: It's not EPAC, it is an Electrically Assisted Pedal Cycle; EAPC. Also. you keep stating that non compliant bikes are only illegal on the road. This will confuse some, as they are illegal on all public land, which includes cycleways and other tracks.
Jack Sexty 58 minutes ago
@edjz We've added a clarification to that paragraph, thanks.
John Emms 1 hour ago
Wow. Last year, I resigned as Chair of the Active Travel Forum for Yate, Sodbury and Surrounding Area not only because there was little to nothing being done to make cycling safe around Yate, but I was coming under personal attack from pro-car (anti-cycling) local councillors, and everything possible was being done to keep our group (drawn from local parish councillors and members of the public with specialist knowledge) out of providing any input. After nearly being killed by someone driving a car at about double the 30 mph speed limit (quite normal around here) I have given up, and we are moving to East Yorkshire. If we were still living in Bristol, had moved to Bath (Weston area), or I had confidence that the now no longer secret "Getting About In Yate" (directed by a couple of councillors who only drive cars) will make any real difference, I would stay.
mdavidford 1 hour ago
If it's true*, as reported, that the driver in question asked and was told that the race had passed, that's not 'arrogant disdain for cyclists' - it's a mistake resulting from a failure of communication somewhere along the line. [* recognising that much about the events here are a fair amount of hearsay at the moment.]
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Schleck yawned thru this and
Schleck yawned thru this and laughed till he hiccupped!