Cyclists think they are subject to ‘pavement code not Highway Code’ says minister; Anti-LTN campaigners ‘manipulate’ traffic levels; TdF stage by stage guide; Bahrain Victorious release Tour de France jersey as crypto-art + more on the live blog
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Bahrain Victorious release one-off Tour de France jersey as crypto-art
Team Bahrain Victorious revealed a special one-off jersey at the Tour de France presentation last night – which they will now be auctioning off as a piece of crypto-art.
Known as the ‘Maillot Disruptif’, (wonder where they got that idea from) the jersey highlights the impact obesity and diabetes has across the world.
Following the presentation, the jerseys were destroyed, never to be physically seen again… but one has since been minted as a piece of crypto art known as an NFT (Non-Fungible-Token) that will be auctioned off, raising money to combat these diseases.
A few weeks ago Colnago received some backlash when it became the first cycling brand to jump on the NFT trend.
The criticism was largely centred on the environmental impact of the computing power necessary to maintain blockchain technology (rather than the NFT itself).
This article from The Verge explains just why blockchain technology and its use to determine ownership of NFTs has such a big environmental impact, mentioning among other things that Ethereum, the cryptocurrency that the Colnago and the Bahrain Jersey were purchased in, “uses about as much electricity as the entire country of Libya.”
Mathieu van der Poel and Alpecin-Fenix team wear Poulidor-inspired kit for Tour de France presentation
At our @LeTour debut, 45 years after the last Grande Boucle of the French legend Raymond Poulidor, we want to say Merci Poupou! 💜💛
ℹ️ Check out https://t.co/2ulXaRuMcs #MerciPoupou #AlpecinFenix #TDF21 pic.twitter.com/VRrG0aL6yX
— Alpecin-Fenix Cycling Team (@AlpecinFenix) June 24, 2021
In the second bit of Tour de France jersey news today – Mathieu van der Poel and his teammates have unveiled a special kit inspired by team leader MVP’s grandfather, Raymond Poulidor.
The new design is reminiscent of the iconic kit worn by Poulidor on the Mercier team during the 1960s and 1970s. Poulidor, who sadly passed away in 2019, finished on the podium of the Tour eight times without winning it.
The jersey will not actually be worn in the race but is available to purchase, with the proceeds going to a scheme supporting young cyclists.
Van der Poel said: “My grandfather recognised my joy of cycling early on and he always said that me and David were more talented than he was.
“I wish he could be [here] and experience this moment together with our family. He dreamed of this for a long time, but I am sure he is proud as he always was. I am feeling delighted that we can pay an ultimate tribute to him in such an exciting way and that we will be able to say all together: ‘MerciPoupou’.”
Cyclist who 'face planted' while riding through London saved by strangers
The kindness of strangers
Love the NHS.
Love London.
Love Londoners
A thread :I’ve been cycling daily in London for over 25 years. A couple of weeks back, shit happened. No idea how or why, in a split second, over the handlebars, I face-planted at speed into Shoreditch High St
— Bob From Accounts (@BobFromAccounts) June 23, 2021
What a heartwarming thread this is for a Friday. ‘Bob from Accounts’ had a very nasty sounding crash in Shoreditch this week but ‘within seconds’ four helpful Londoners came to his rescue.
The group moved him off the busy road and looked after him while they waited for an ambulance to arrive.
Restaurant woman brings me water first, then a straw, realising I can’t hold the cup. She offers to store my bike in the restaurant she works in. Scottish ambulance man Ross arrives in 10 minutes. I’m doing my best not to pass out after looking at my left wrist and right shoulder
— Bob From Accounts (@BobFromAccounts) June 23, 2021
After the paramedic came and cut off his backpack and clothes he was taken to hospital where Bob confirmed ‘going towards the light’ is really a thing.
Wake in Royal London Trauma Unit, pain freeish and off my tits. Ross still by my side 4 hours later. He’s found my phone to text and call my wife. Wrist crushed many places. Scapula, clavicle and the top of my humerus resembling a bag of Doritos that had been sat on.
— Bob From Accounts (@BobFromAccounts) June 23, 2021
So, although Bob, as he himself says, is now ‘partly built from stainless’ steel he intends to keep cycling and still ‘Loves London, the NHS and Londoners’.
If you have the time, it’s well worth reading the whole thread.
Cycling cartoonist explains the Tour de France
With the Tour de France about to start it seemed like a good time for some explanatory diagrams. This one is from my first cycling book, ‘The Cycling Cartoonist’. pic.twitter.com/8XVrcK641Q
— Dave Walker (@davewalker) June 24, 2021
Author of The Cycling Cartoonist, Dave Walker, has published some of his helpful diagrams on Twitter ‘explaining’ the Tour de France to those who might be new to the sport…
Van driver jailed for 18 months for causing death of 85-year-old cyclist
Jamie Bridgwater, from Stourport, was driving a Mercedes Sprinter van when he struck Brian Humphreys’ bike on Temple Row, Willenhall, on June 15 last year, The Express and Star report.
Bridgwater, 33, ‘failed to allow sufficient room’ to overtake Mr Humphreys which led to the near-side headlight colliding with the handlebar of the bike, Wolverhampton Crown Court heard.
Bridgwater, was arrested at the scene after testing positive for cannabis and was later found to be over the legal limit for THC.
Mr Humphrey’s son Ian described his father in it as the ‘strongest man’ he’s ever met who was “so alive” and the life and soul of any get-together.
Oxfordshire County Council appoint new 'cycling champion'
Very pleased to have been appointed as County Council cycling champion at today’s Cabinet meeting, and looking forward very much to working with all stakeholders on this vital issue
— Andrew Gant (@AndrewGant3) June 22, 2021
Councillor Andrew Gant has been named as Oxfordshire County Council’s new ‘cycling champion’.
Mr Gant, councillor for Wolvercote and Summertown, said: “I’m really delighted to be taking on this important role, and I look forward to working closely with my colleagues in the Oxfordshire Fair Deal Alliance administration, fellow cycling champions around the county, and the many active stakeholder groups who believe passionately in the benefits of cycling and all forms of sustainable transport.
Anti-LTN campaigners accused of trying to 'manipulate' car traffic levels
One of the leading opponents of traffic changes in Hackney is desperate to manipulate figures so as to strengthen her case. This cynical plan should be condemned. pic.twitter.com/2wUyJNaasc
— Hackney LCC (@hackney_cycling) June 24, 2021
Anti-LTN campaigners have been accused of encouraging motorists to ‘drive up and down the road’ to manipulate traffic figure levels as the council continue to receive feedback and data from residents regarding the Low Traffic Neighbourhoods.
The comments, posted in the ‘Horrendous Hackney Road Closures’ Facebook Group, read: “Could everyone in the group who drives please drive up and down Dalston Lane for the next few days…
“I now have an official traffic/pollution monitor based at mine in advance of the court case and yesterday was the quietest day in a long time.”
If you’ve never cycled in a Low Traffic Neighbourhood before, here’s two minutes of pedalling around Islington and Hackney yesterday evening: pic.twitter.com/yTnrnJkvms
— Jon Stone (@joncstone) June 24, 2021
Tour de France has riders from smallest number of different countries since 2006
184 riders from 27 different countries
This is the least amount of different countries since 2006 https://t.co/dqGOGIKkOH pic.twitter.com/L72kRLYHBD
— ProCyclingStats.com (@ProCyclingStats) June 25, 2021
This year at the tour there will be 33 French riders, 22 Belgians and 17 Spaniards.
At the other end of the scale there is just one (quite good) Ecuadorian rider and following Sam Bennett’s exclusion from the Quick-step team only one Irish rider, Dan Martin.
Michael Matthews to ride new custom Bianchi Oltre XR4 at Tour de France
The Team BikeExchange rider will compete at the Tour de France on a bespoke-painted version of Bianchi’s flagship Oltre XR4.
The hand-painted frame was designed by Bianchi Reparto Corse, and features iridescent inserts as well as a personalised message in the paintwork.
Matthews said: “My Oltre XR4 is beautiful, thanks to this hand-made Italian paint job. For the way I ride and the stages I can do well in, this bike has everything: it’s super aero and it sprints fast.”
The bike also has the word ‘believe’ printed on the top tube.
Matthews continued: “In a race where there are difficult moments, a little slogan like this can make a difference. I must believe in myself, I can push hard and, I can achieve my dreams.”
Jumbo-Visma reveal Tour de France bike - and there's something unusual about it...
So for the Tour this year Jumbo-Visma will be riding bikes with a blue front tyre… but why?
Essentially, the team has partnered up with Swapfiets, a ‘mobility company’ known for its bikes’ blue front tyres.
It’s certainly an unusual look.
Richard Plugge, Director of Team Jumbo-Visma said: “Swapfiets is an innovative leader when it comes to urban cycling. Our team is innovative in our way of working, so we match with Swapfiets and you will see that in the peloton. We both believe the more people cycle the better it is for the health of everyone and the cities we live in.”
— Wout van Aert (@WoutvanAert) June 24, 2021
The 'Oscars of the Giro' have been announced
The organisers of the Giro have announced the winners of their ‘awards’ from this years race.
Unsurprisingly, Bernal was given most protaganistic rider but he also won the ‘amore infinito prize’ for taking off his rain jacket at the end of the brutally, cold and wet stage 16.
Lorenzo Fortunato was named as the ‘revelation’ while the best team spirit went to Ineo for Martinez’s emphatic encouragment of Bernal at Sega di Ala on stage 17.
New bike hire scheme launches on the Royal Canal in Dublin
A new bike hire scheme has launched on the Royal Canal in Ireland.
The Royal Canal biking trail stretches for 130 kilometres all the way from Maynooth in County Kildare, through Meath, Westmeath, Longford, through Ireland’s Ancient East into the Hidden Heartlands.
The Royal Canal Bike Hire hub is situated at Maynooth Harbour, Co Kildare, with a drop-off location in Enfield, Co Meath – both located next to train stations, The Irish Mirror reports.
It's almost time... here's our guide to the first and second stage of the 108th Tour de France
Stage 1 – Saturday 26 June
Brest – Landernau (187km)
Hilly stage
All four Breton stages have sinuous routes with the first three also taking in coastal stretches. The first week of the Tour is stressful enough as it is for the riders, but if there is a strong wind today, that will raise the prospect of echelons forming, making it an especially nervous opening day.
With the prize of perhaps a once-in-a-lifetime chance to wear the iconic yellow jersey awaiting the day’s winner, the final climb – 3 kilometres at an average gradient of 5.7 per cent but hitting as much as 14 per cent early on – the finish to the stage should be an explosive one.
Stage 2 – Sunday 27 June
Perros-Guirec – Mûr-de-Bretagne Guerlédan (182 km)
Hilly stage
Starting in the spectacular scenery of the Cote de Granit Rose, this stage ends with a double ascent of the Mûr-de-Bretagne, nicknamed the Alpe d’Huez of Brittany, also tackled twice in the 2018 Tour when Dan Martin was the winner. It’s only 2 km long but averages 6.9 per cent and is even steeper in its first half. It’s worth noting that bonus seconds are up for grabs the first time it’s climbed.
The second time around, the climb is approached from a different direction, the riders coming onto it after a 90-degree right-hand corner. There will be a huge fight for position involving not only those seeking the stage win, but also riders with GC hopes, and woe betide anyone who puncture or gets caught behind a crash ahead of the climb – they could lose significant time.
Some cyclists think they are subject to the ‘pavement code’, not the Highway Code, says minister
Conservative front bencher Lord Wolfson of Tredegar made the remark as he took questions in the House of Lords on traffic offences.
The Lancashire post report, that the minister said: “We can all think of examples around the world where there is a different culture in the way that road space is used.”
He added: “Of course, one has to remember that everybody who uses the road is subject to the Highway Code.
“That includes both the drivers of juggernauts and, if I may say so, cyclists, who sometimes appear to think that they are subject to the pavement code.”
> Transport minister: Responsible cyclists CAN ride on the pavement
25 June 2021, 08:20
2018 champion says having four overall contenders needn’t harm chances of Ineos Grenadiers winning the yellow jersey
Geraint Thomas predicts “chaotic” start to Tour de France in Brittany
2018 champion says having four overall contenders needn’t harm chances of Ineos Grenadiers winning the yellow jersey
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so Shimano still avoiding leading the market, but rather coming up safely behind with a safe product. All good but hardly cutting edge, weights a bit high, width a bit narrow, cost a bit high...which is fine for their market I suppose, but they are being overtaken by others
This is a really important precedent, because it confirms that an oncoming car in their own lane CAN be charged with a close pass, even if the cyclist and the car remain in their own lanes. A cyclist riding in primary position could probably rack up dozens, if not hundreds, of prosecutions in an hour or two of cycling. Or, West Yorkshire Police are full of shit.
"In a statement provided to road.cc, West Yorkshire Police also said it was “not appropriate” to release footage of the earlier close pass, the spokesperson stating that it would be “unfair” to the driver and not “strictly relevant” to the offence posted online." It may not be "strictly relevant" to the offence posted online. But the pertinent question is why they chose to post the cycling offence online, but not the motoring offence. That's "unfair". If they sincerely meant the message posted alongside the cycling clip ("It is important that all road users are aware of The Highway Code, are considerate to other road users and understand their responsibility for the safety of others"), then they should have posted both offences. To post only one looks very much like seeking to dissuade cyclists from making reports.
Um, which is it then?
So it's appropriate to cite the offence for which the cyclist submitted the video as a comparative that "proves" the cyclist's offence was far worse, but now it's not only not appropriate to show the video but it's not actually relevant to the cyclist's offence either? Right. Shouldn't you make a beeping noise when you back up like that, chaps? Does the cyclist still have the original footage? Nothing to prevent them releasing it so we can see the validity or otherwise of the police claims.
@quiff Yes - that's the bit I was referring to.
Right then.... It's not appropriate? Why not? Is it because it shows that in fact the close pass received by the cyclist was not, in fact, significantly more than the distances shown in this (admittedly rather stupid) example of bad cycling? Are they covering their backsides after another blatant lie? Is this the same force that didn't prosecute a close pass on me because I wasn't in the dead center of a cycle lane, but slightly to one side to avoid a drain grate, and therefore I was "inconsiderate" in my cycling? Or who tried to prosecute me for swearing in distress when a driver deliberately tried to ram me off the road, whilst filming me? Or who actually wrote in a witness statement that I swear in the majority of the videos that I submit (a blatant lie which they know is false, but don't care. Shame I couldn't get that tested in court). Is this the police force who have a written policy - and I kid you not - of dismissing OUT OF HAND any complaints about how they handle submissions from cyclists who have previously complained to them. Is this the same force that can't see anything wrong with a close pass UNDERTAKE at speed, and refused to prosecute this incident; https://vimeo.com/1079291114/f8d5ab5f41 Or whose road safety unit does not contain a SINGLE cyclist (my sample size is the 6 who I've had the 'pleasure' of dealing with) amongst their ranks? Institutionally anti-cyclist!!!
Cassette bearings are simply better to replace, Shimano and roll better !
I cycle around here regularly and also submit footage to WY Police from time to time through OpSnap. My experience has been generally good, almost all submissions result in "positive action" as they say. The stats for cyclist submissions are good - I think as a road user group the cyclist submissions have the highest "strike rate". I do feel in this instance (the Menston incidents) that we are not getting the whole story. There is of course nothing to prevent the cyclist in question releasing all the footage from the whole of the incident. When I saw the headline costs / fine I did wonder if it had been dealt with in the Defendants absence. Overall there does seem to be an imbalance in disposals - the cyclist should be given the option of an out of court route as the driver was.
Valencia city is a pretty dodgy place. I have had 2 almost decente Decathlon bikes taken, one from outside the railway station, and a couple of BSOs too, and the wife has lost 2 cheapos too, over the last 30 years and we don't leave 'em parked ouside anymore.
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That Poulidor kit is a very
That Poulidor kit is a very nice touch, and actually looks really, really nice. Retro yet modern. Colours are bold yet tasteful. It’s a real shame we won’t see it in the race.
Is there a reason for that ?
Is there a reason for that ? TdF didn’t like it or they not fill in the UCI paperwork like EF pro did last year, as I dont understand why youd create a kit to honour Van der Poels grandfather, which is a great idea lots of sponsor coverage, and just wear it at the team presentation and then literally never speak of it again.
Yikes, €30 for p&p to the UK
Yikes, €30 for p&p to the UK
and then no doubt some
and then no doubt some customs holdup and extra charges……
Not sure they actually ship
Not sure they actually ship to the UK anymore anyway. No shipping methods available if you try to purchase. I wonder why that would be? ?
Let the tragic case of Brian
Let the tragic case of Brian Humphreys be quoted to all those, especially police, who don’t think close passes are worth any action.
Anti-LTN campaigners accused
Anti-LTN campaigners accused of trying to ‘manipulate’ car traffic levels – is that real? That is just so… I don’t know, was going to say ‘manipulative and wrong’, and then remembered who’s in Govt right now…
Heart-warming to read
Heart-warming to read @BobFromAccounts thread on the compassion afforded him after crashing his bike both by the general public and the NHS staff.
Sometimes I get a bit cynical about the world we live in, but every so often read something that changes my mind.
Hope Bob mends quickly and well done to all those who did their bit.
Quite, I would suggest
Quite, I would suggest everyone clicks the link and read the whole thread, not just the highlighted ones.
However, slight nit picking but he praises the four people who helped him initially “Somehow, with these four strangers help, I was moved off the busy High St“. Good job that he didn’t have a spinal injury, maybe he was “walking wounded” but if he wasn’t, how much was his concern and how much was “woah, he is in the way of other traffic”.
If that was a typical street
If that was a typical street scene of LTN’s, why would anybody be against them?
Cities are about people, not lumps of steel clogging up the arteries.
If only we could get LTN’s in my Midlands town asap, it would be wonderful.
At the risk of being labelled
At the risk of being labelled Columbo, those who claim that deliveries are obstructed by LTNs might be directed to Jon Stone’s above video of cycling in an LTN. The eagle-eyed amongst them will note the Ocado van on the right ~30s in.
As any fule no, Ocado vans are kept on-site when not on route – this driver clearly had no issue gaining access to their LTN destination when they needed to.
Interesting post. But is it
Interesting post. But is it kind to carry over irrelevant baggage from previous days? I’d rather these little skirmishes were laid to rest with the setting sun.
Sriracha wrote:
I shall accede to your eloquently presented point and edit. Except for the Columbo bit – I’m a something of a Falkie on the quiet…
You’re a gentleman, Captain
You’re a gentleman, Captain Badger.
Just one more thing…
Just one more thing…
Did you know that Bing Crosby
Did you know that Bing Crosby was originally going to play Columbo but he preferred to play golf instead
Michael Matthews to ride new
Michael Matthews to ride new custom Bianchi Oltre XR4 at Tour de France – maybe its just me, but it looks like something’s missing from that bike…?
Swapfiets are already in
Swapfiets are already in London, as last time I was there I kept wondering why people had left turbo trainer tyres on their bikes
Three TdF teams named (in
Three TdF teams named (in part) after countries and only one of those countries has a single rider in the peleton.
Quote:
Oh har de f-ing har!
Lord Wolfson of Tredegar is a Conservative Life peer who has sat under this title in the Lords since 7 January 2021.
I wonder if Lord Wolfson
I wonder if Lord Wolfson could explain what this “pavement code” is that he’s made up in his head for the purpose of othering cyclists?
Maybe he would like to explain why we all need to follow the rules on social distancing but Minister for Health Matt Hancock only has to follow the Tory Sleaze code?
I wonder if he would like to
I wonder if he would like to comment on the number of pedestrians who are killed by drivers of cars whilst on the pavement and compare to injuries sustained by collisions with cyclists on pavements?
According to wikipedia Lord
According to wikipedia Lord Wolfson is wary of stories that are “anecdotally true but empirically false”
Awavey wrote:
Any evidence of that?
though I didnt say which Lord
though I didnt say which Lord Wolfson I was referring to… ok so I got my Lord Wolfson’s mixed up then 😀
and it wasnt the one I thought it was, still a good quote the other Lord Wolfson might choose to reflect on though.
Captain Badger wrote:
Any evidence of that?
— AwaveyJust stop with the venom will you please?
Nearly all the road vehicles
Nearly all the road vehicles I see on the pavements are cars and vans – but no complaints about them from the politicians, can any of the politicians tell me why?
kingleo wrote:
Sure. It’s illegal to ride a bike on the pavement but not to park a car on the pavement (outside London). Hope that helps.
Nigel Garrage wrote:
But, of course, it’s not possible to park on a pavement without driving on a pavement which is the same offence as cycling on a pavement
The WMP RHT (the ones behind
The WMP RHT (the ones behind the intial drive to prosecute close passing) also used to run OP Park Safe.
London has Pavement parking rules for sure, but the rest of the country do have the capability to charge drivers for it, just not as enforced if the driver is considerate on the spaces left for other users. Similar to why most cyclists on the pavement being considerate would be ignored as specified by Home Secretary. Still Politicians will moan about one but not the other.
It is illegal to drive a
It is illegal to drive a vehicle onto the pavement.
If you’re going to be obnoxious, it’s essential to get your facts straight.
I didn’t mention driving, I
I didn’t mention driving, I wrote parking, for which the Highway Code clearly states is legal (outside London). The problem (generally) is that there isn’t adequate off-road parking in the UK, and roads are too narrow generally. This leads to little alternative but to park partially on the pavement out of politeness and courtesy – it avoids obstructing the highway. You can blame governments of all colours for allowing this to happen, but we are where we are.
The same constraints don’t exist for the nefarious activity of cycling on the pavement. There would (of course) be popular outrage if people started driving cars down footpaths and pedestrian zones in the same dangerous manner that a small minority of cyclists do.
Also – we are cyclists! We can only control what we can control, and it’s important to project a sensible and upstanding image to society, to promote safe cycling and show the general population – who may be relunctant to get on their bike – that it can be done with decorum and civility.
On criminality, the Road Traffic Act 1991 defacto ‘decriminalised’ the offence of parking on the footway, passing enforcement from the police to the local authority in question. You can read more about it on Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decriminalised_parking_enforcement. South Yorkshire police confirmed via a freedom of information request that they do not deal with such matters due to this legislation, and have instead handed matters over to the local authorities.
You can also read a written reply from a Mr Carlton Reid (who I believe is a radical pro-cycling activist) at https://publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm201314/cmselect/cmtran/writev/parking/m01.htm which confirms the above.
Nigel Garrage wrote:
Alternatively, the problem (generally) is that there is too much private vehicle ownership in the UK, and an ingrained assumption of a right to park right next to your home / destination.
Exactly.
Exactly.
As if there not being off-road parking close to your destination means you have little alternative but to block the pavement. Your options are to park properly or park elsewhere. Claiming people do it out of politeness and courtesy is idiotic.
I’m afraid Mr Farage may be
I’m afraid Mr Farage may be correct on this. This is a still from footage I was going to submit but Gloucestershire Constabulary system seems to direct me to report it to the local authority and the local authority only seems concerned if it’s currently causing and obstruction. I couldn’t find any way of reporting so I’ve given up. The car is not only parked in a cyle lane but is also blocking the pavement, pretty sure a wheelchair wouldn’t have got through. Probably too late for this one now but if anyone knows how to report these please let me know.
Garrage. My name is Nigel
Garrage. My name is Nigel Garrage. Not Farage. Not CarRage. Not Nige. Not Booboo. Not any four letter word.
Let’s show some etiquette here. But thank you otherwise for your support and kind words.
Entirely my fault and I
Entirely my fault and I apologise unreservedly for my error. I will try to do better in future.
Do you know how to report parking in a cycle lane? I am assumimg that it is illegal to park in a cycle lane with a solid white line and double yellow lines but I may be wrong. You seem to be well versed in the law and I was hoping someone may be able to help me out.
Wasting your time expecting a
Wasting your time expecting a modicum of civility from some of the aggressive posters on here.
Oddly, you directed this
Oddly, you directed this comment to someone who has only a passing acquaintance with the concept of civility. Maybe you aren’t familiar with his previous comments but if you were you’d maybe have chosen someone else to get on side when promoting civility.
markieteeee wrote:
Maybe you can help by pointing to some of Nigel Garrage’s [i]uncivil[/i] comments? You might not like what he says, but is it uncivil? Or have I misunderstood your point?
Despite his claims of
Despite his claims of accepting others opinions, he is quite happy to be rude if it suits.
hirsute wrote:
This was meant as a light hearted riposte to your insistence that bike helmets don’t protect their wearers from injury. I apologise if you felt offended and am happy to clarify that I don’t really think you have a bunker.
Anyway, today is a new day! I’m not going to discuss parking or anything else from yesterday.
I’ve just come back from a lovely ride, with an unexpected delight – in a picturesque Essex village that I rode through, the residents were preparing for their annual scarecrow exhibition.
There was a perfect example where someone had really thought of the best of British: scarecrow representations of Boris Johnson, Chris Whitty, Rishi Sunak and the Queen with a banner about vaccinations saving lives. A young woman with blonde flowing tussles was busy hanging out Union Jack bunting, and I doubled back to chat to her. “Did you swap out Matt Hancock for Rishi?” I joked playfully.
Oh how she laughed. Anyway, must fly, my lunch won’t eat itself.
There you go again
There you go again misrepresenting the facts as I never said that. What I did write in that thread was:
‘ I argue where people make assertions about the efficacy of helmets and fail to understand their limitations or just make wild claims with no evidence. I’ve never said “don’t bother to wear a helmet”. ‘
And no, it wasn’t light hearted as you had already made comments about anti-vaccers and 5g nutters so basically putting me in the same camp.
Just another of your baiting posts. If you carried on the way you do on other sites, you would have been banned on them a long while ago.
Nigel Garrage]
Are you sure that wasn’t actually Boris Johnson?
Hmm… I suppose there is
Hmm… I suppose there is usually a sheen of civility, so I understand your general point. I don’t have the means* to go back and find examples of open incivility in his various comments but there have been many times in many threads. Personally, I find his manner to be uncivil. This could just be me and stating exactly why I think this will undoubtedly draw accusations that I’m being uncivil.
*Out of interest, if there a way of doing that on here without scrolling through multiple articles? I wouldn’t use it for this purpose but I dip in and out and sometimes I want to jump to a comment thread I found interesting a few days ago and it’s not always obvious from the article headline. Am I missing something or can’t you look up your own previous comments?
No, you have to make a note
No, you have to make a note of the article. Other forums allow you to click on a name and see what was posted.
A bit frustrating when searching for articles that you have commented on such as the one where the thief uses a angle grinder and it is all over in about 20s.
hirsute wrote:
I’d like to find the infamous helmet thread with over 500 comments.
There is only one?
There is only one?
ktache wrote:
Are you Connor MacLeod?
Where do live, most people
Where I live, most people park on the pavement to preserve their wing mirrors. Nothing more.
You can’t fit 2 cars past them so the only outcome is damaging the pavement and causing a nuisance to pedestrians.
You still haven’t explained how anyone parks on the pavement without driving on it. But that is no surprise.
Nigel Garrage wrote:
Difficult to park your car without driving it I would have thought…
Many commentators have posed
Many commentators have posed the question “how can you park a car on the pavement without driving it on the pavement?” or words to that effect.
Now to the uninitiated and hard of thought I do agree this would seem to be an insurmountable problem, but clearly there must be a solution otherwise why would the highway code state that that it is legal to park on the pavement outside London?
The solution requires a little lateral thinking. We know that it’s illegal to drive on the pavement under normal circumstances, but that it isn’t illegal to drive over the pavement to access private property. We also know that it isn’t illegal to park on someone else’s drive but is merely a civil matter.
Armed with this information, in order to park on the pavement without breaking the law, I simply enter the pavement zone with the intention of driving onto private property, change my mind and reposition my car tangentially. I then switch off the engine and allow the car through its own momentum (without driving it) to come to its correct parking position, applying the handbrake with a final flourish.
Very good but…… From what
Very good but…… From what I can find you can only drive 15yds and only mount the pavement at a dropped kerb so if a car is parked more than 15yds from a dropped kerb this wouldn’t be possible would it?.
The Highway Code does not say
The Highway Code does not say that though
rule 244
You MUST NOT park partially or wholly on the pavement in London, and should not do so elsewhere unless signs permit it. Parking on the pavement can obstruct and seriously inconvenience pedestrians, people in wheelchairs or with visual impairments and people with prams or pushchairs.
Good luck with other offences such as red light jumping, overtaking on double white lines where your engine is switched off.
Nigel Garrage wrote:
What was it for breakfast today Nige? Waffle again?
Branflakes with raisins,
Branflakes with raisins, followed by a banana. Plenty of fibre for a poo to reduce body weight prior to my ride.
Nigel Garrage wrote:
That explains it. Have a great ride dude.
Captain Badger wrote:
Oh for deity’s sake. Parking and driving have specific definitions in law. It is legal to park on the pavement (where applicable), and not legal to drive. Parking includes the manoeuvring necessary to park. It does not include ‘driving’.
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2004/18/part/6
Dave Dave wrote:
Oh for deity’s sake. Parking and driving have specific definitions in law. It is legal to park on the pavement (where applicable), and not legal to drive. Parking includes the manoeuvring necessary to park. It does not include ‘driving’.
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2004/18/part/6
— Captain Badger
Hi Dave, y’right?
Pavement parking is an
Pavement parking is an offence enforced by the police the RTA 1991 act is related to car parking enforcement on the road not pavements where the offence is under Regulation 103 of The Road Vehicles (Construction and Use) Regulations 1986. PAvement parking creates a great deal of anguish and difficulty for people with disabilities or pushing prams or just everyone. It has little to do with no facilities, many car drivers park on the pavement regardless of the circumstances and need, where no parking exists then adequate parking would exist a short distance away. In many ways enforcement does need transferring to local councils as the police have little inclination or resource to enforce. On average 40 people a year are killed by motor cars on pavements and many more seriously injuried.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-stoke-staffordshire-57544083
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-53067001
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cumbria-53138099
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-somerset-57488200
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-europe-55148111
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-57544657
Just a few recent reports
And that driver posted in
And that driver posted in yesterdays thread of course.
Wolfson – get back to us when
Wolfson – get back to us when you’ve made cycling safe enough for 8 to 80 year olds, either on the road or on dedicated, physically protected cycle tracks.
Until then, shut up.
There aren’t nearly enough
There aren’t nearly enough gangs of motorbike riders shown in that cartoon. There always seem to be as many motorcyclists as cyclists in tours, often getting in the way.
Yet another incompetent
Yet another incompetent government minister, no less than a lord this time.
He added: “Of course, one has to remember that everybody who uses the road is subject to the Highway Code.”
Lord Wolfson should know, and know very well, that no-one is subject to the Highway Code, which has no legal force; they are subject to the various Road Traffic Acts and associated laws.
Is there no end to this government’s incompetence?
eburtthebike wrote:
No.
Captain Badger wrote:
Is there no end to this government’s incompetence?
— Captain Badger No.— eburtthebikeVenom entirely justified that time.
There is no “ascent of the
There is no “ascent of the Mûr-de-Bretagne” – only an ascent to Mûr-de-Bretagne. Mûr-de-Bretagne is the village – the climb is the Côte de Menéhiez.
Re Lord Wolfson : I found the
Re Lord Wolfson : I found the lord’s debate which this quote is taken from. It’s his response to a question about hierarchy of road users and when we are going to get a response to the consultation. Not only has he dodged the question but managed to turn it round to make cyclists the problem and not motorists.
“Lord Rosser Shadow Spokesperson (Home Affairs), Shadow Spokesperson (Transport)
One way of addressing the incidence and consequences of unacceptable driving is to change the culture among road users. Last year’s consultation on the interim review of the Highway Code focused specifically on improving safety for vulnerable users—particularly cyclists, pedestrians and horse riders—and asked respondents for their views on introducing a hierarchy of road users. If introduced, this would ensure that those road users who can do the greatest harm have the greatest responsibility to reduce the danger or threat they may pose to others. Do the Government support a hierarchy and the prioritisation of road users in this way? When will the Government publish their response to the consultation, which closed eight months ago?
Lord Wolfson of Tredegar The Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Justice
My Lords, some of the points the noble Lord has raised are really for my colleagues in the Department for Transport, and I will pass those on. But he is absolutely right that culture is an important part of this debate; we can all think of examples around the world where there is a different culture in the way that road space is used. Of course, one has to remember that everybody who uses the road is subject to the Highway Code. That includes both the drivers of juggernauts and, if I may say so, cyclists, who sometimes appear to think that they are subject to the pavement code.”
The rest of the debate makes interesting reading as well including a reference to cyclists “mowing down pedestrians”