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“It would be mental to do single speed on that course!” Ultra-distance cyclist opts for cheap bike shop repair after trashing rear mech during gruelling off-road mountain race – and is forced to ride with one gear to the finish + more on the live blog

It’s Tuesday, it’s still very cold, and Ryan Mallon’s busy trying to gee himself up to do some training later this afternoon… After a day of cycling news, views, and general silliness on the live blog first, of course

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09:09
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“It would be mental to do single speed on that course!” Ultra-distance cyclist opts for cheap bike shop repair after trashing rear mech during gruelling off-road mountain race – and is forced to ride with one gear to the finish

It’s a big week in the dot-watching cycling community.

We’re about halfway through the Atlas Mountain Race, one of the toughest ultra-distance races in the world, covering 1,300km over seven days across Morrocco, from Marrakesh to Essaouira.

Crossing the Moroccan Atlas, this endurance epic features some of extremely unforgiving terrain, featuring over 20,000m of elevation and following high-altitude gravel roads and long-forgotten single and double tracks, with barely any tarmac for respite.

And it’s safe to say it’s already taken its fair share of prisoners.

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

A post shared by Matt Page (@mattpage24)

Our very own Matt Page – who seemed to be in good spirits yesterday after being joined by a few locals – appears to have scratched later that afternoon, his dot lingering about 30km off the route near Skoura. Matt’s not the only one to suffer a bit of bad luck, however.

Sofiane Sehili, one of the best off-road long-distance racers on the planet and the winner of the 2020 edition of the Atlas Mountain Race, felt the full force of Morrocco’s unforgiving terrain when he trashed his fancy Shimano GRX rear mech – and had to make do with an on-the-cheap replacement from a local bike shop.

Sofiane Sehili broken rear mech

Which, unfortunately for the French ultra-distance legend, means he’s now forced to ride all the way to Essaouira on single speed – putting him, obviously, out of the race.

> Bring on the Atlas Mountains: a beginner's guide to ultra-distance bike racing

Describing his DIY job in an Instagram story, while riding his newly single speed machine, Sehili, who’s also won the Tour Divide and the Silk road mountain race during his illustrious long-ride career, said: “So, I went to this little repair shop and they had chains, six or seven-speed chains, which obviously were too thick for my 12-speed cassette.

“I removed a couple of cogs from the cassette, replaced them with some spacers that were the right size.

Sofiane Sehili rear mech

“So now I can use one cog! And I added a derailleur, just to have the right tension on the chain. Yeah, so I’m riding single speed on tarmac.

“And if you’re wondering why I’m not back on the course, I honestly think it would be mental to do single speed on that course – though I know one guy who’s doing it!”

Yeah, that sounds fair. I doubt anyone will be shouting ‘one gear is more than enough on those mountain dirt roads!’ as he passes by on the tarmac anyway.

In a longer Instagram post, Sehili – who joked that he was “in the mood for a bike tour anyway” after being forced onto the tarmac – added: “This is how my second attempt at the Atlas Mountain Race ends. Pretty differently from the first one. It was all going well, until it wasn’t anymore. I don’t give up easily but this time there’s nothing I could do but throw in the towel.

“When it happened, I was more than gutted. Now that I have had time to get some sleep and reflect on it, I feel a bit better. Of course I’m disappointed, but if something like that has to happen, I surely prefer it happens during a race I have already finished and won.

“I also take comfort in the fact that I didn’t just come here just for the race but was, beforehand, lucky enough to ride almost a thousand kilometres in this beautiful country that is Morocco.

Sofiane Sehili

“It is easy to indulge in self-pity, but in the end it is truly just a bike race and I got to take part in half of it. Some of my mates weren’t as lucky, a good friend is in hospital bed awaiting surgery after a serious accident. So yeah, it’s not the end of the world…

“I’m not gonna complain. Instead, I will look at the bright side of things, which is that I was racing hard and fast in a very competitive field. I was right there in the mix. Well ahead of my 2020 times.

Sofiane Sehili 2

“It feels quite good to actually get better while getting older to be honest. There will be other races. There will be many other opportunities to sing and (hopefully) crack you up.

“Now I'm gonna try to single speed my way to Essaouira.”

I don’t know about you, but that sounds brutal, too. These ultra-distance cyclists, eh?

16:35
Gino Bartali
Cycling goes Hollywood: Top Gun Maverick star Miles Teller set to play Italian cycling hero Gino Bartali in upcoming biopic

If, like me, you love cycling history and obsessively picking apart factual inaccuracies in Hollywood biopics, then this is your lucky day.

Because it was confirmed this morning that ‘Bartali’, a film about the life of double Tour de France and three-time Giro d’Italia winner Gino Bartali, is in production. Yes, really.

Deadline reports that Miles Teller, who’s starred in Top Gun: Maverick, Fantastic Four, and Whiplash, is set to take the lead role as the legendary cyclist, while Oscar-winning Free Solo and Nyad filmmakers E. Chai Vasarhelyi and Jimmy Chin are to direct. Meanwhile, award-winning producer Karen Tenkhoff has written the script, which Deadline says they’ve “heard good things about”.

While on the surface it may seem strange that Hollywood is interested in telling the story of an Italian cyclist who won his first Tour de France almost 90 years ago (the gap between Bartali’s two Tour victories in 1938 and 1948 remains the longest in the race’s history), the mythology surrounding ‘Pious’ Gino’s career and life is the kind of stuff biopic producers just eat up.

First, there’s his iconic rivalry with Fausto Coppi, which not only characterised an entire era of the sport but also divided a nation, symbolising Italy’s growing chasm between its conservative and deeply religious population and the country’s modern, secular elements in the wake of the Second World War.

Gino Bartali (L) with great rival Fausto Coppi (CC licensed by Tsuru1111:Flickr)

‘Hey Fausto, do you reckon they’ll make a film about us in 80 years?’

Then there’s the story, heavily shrouded in myth, legend, and hearsay, that Bartali’s 1948 Tour win saved Italy, brought to the brink after Communist leader Palmiro Togliatti was shot by a right-wing student while leaving parliament, from civil war.

And finally, and this is where the film producers’ ears prick up, there are the revelations that emerged following his death in 2000, of his apparent war-time exploits carrying messages in his bike frame – which the army would never have touched to avoid upsetting the great sporting icon – to the Italian Resistance.

This role, some historians have claimed (though others have refuted, and which the cyclist never mentioned), may have saved hundreds of Italian Jews during the war (there are claims Bartali also hid a Jewish family in his house at one point), but remained a secret throughout the devout Catholic’s lifetime.

It’s the kind of mythology that makes the recent Bob Dylan biopic – starring hire bike lover Timothée Chalamet – seem relatively straightforward by comparison.

Oh, and he’s also one of the greatest cyclists of all time, there’s that too.

> Renaissance riders: Italy’s Tour de France winners, from Coppi and Bartali to Pantani and Nibali

“The moment we read Karen’s script, we knew this was a film we had to make. It captures everything we love about storytelling – it’s about bravery, about perseverance and, ultimately, about what it means to have moral courage,” directors Vasarhelyi and Chin said in a statement.

“With Miles attached to star in the title role, we know this epic tale will leave audiences hopeful, energised, and inspired by Gino’s story.”

“I’m so excited to join this incredible project and bring Gino Bartali’s inspiring story to life,” added Teller.

“He wasn’t just a cycling legend, he was a true hero who risked his own safety to help those who needed it most. Can’t wait for audiences to see the courage and heart behind his journey.”

Get your popcorn and fact-checking notepads at the ready. I for one can’t wait to see that infamous bottle pass with Coppi on the big screen…

14:59
London Cycling Campaign to stage protest at junction where cyclist was killed in collision with lorry driver last month, to “highlight more than a decade of inaction”

In two weeks, the London Cycling Campaign will stage a protest at the “dangerous, unprotected” junction of Stratford High Street and Carpenters Road in east London, where a cyclist was killed on 13 January in a collision with a lorry driver.

On Monday 24 February, the LCC and its Newham Cyclists branch will gather where the Greenway meets Stratford High Street at 6.15pm, before leaving fifteen minutes later to ride along Stratford High Street, stopping briefly at the Carpenters Road junction for a minute’s silence and speeches.

The protest ride, the campaign says, will attempt to “highlight more than a decade of inaction on a series of unprotected and unsafe junctions along Stratford High Street that TfL (and Newham Council) should have acted on years ago. This inaction has now led to another needless death.”

London Cycling Campaign protest (image credit: LCC)

While the recent installation of protected cycle lanes at junctions along Cycleway 2 has increased safety, the LCC says on the one-mile stretch between Bow Roundabout and Stratford town centre, TfL and Newham Council “have left the junctions unprotected and untouched”, exposing people cycling “to unacceptable danger”.

A host of junctions on this corridor, including at Carpenters Road, are “completely unprotected” and “don’t give cyclists any separation at all from vehicles turning left”, while forcing pedestrians to contend with “indirect staggered crossings, excessive waiting times, dangerous guardrail, and in some cases pedestrian crossings that are completely missing”.

Dangerous junctions campaign (London Cycling Campaign)

“As our Dangerous Junctions map shows, there are far too many junctions in London where there are known design flaws that are resulting in clear patterns of collisions, yet year after year TfL does nothing,” the LCC’S chief executive Tom Fyans said in a statement.

“Worse, TfL right now is continuing to roll out supposedly ‘safer’ junctions which leave in design flaws even their own design criteria considers a ‘critical’ failure. If TfL and the Mayor are genuinely committed to reducing road danger, and saving lives like the one lost on 13 January, we need to see a step change in action.

“Ten people died while cycling on London’s streets in 2024 – until TfL designs better and works with all boroughs to move faster it's hard to see that number coming down any time soon.”

17:05
Talk about a real Sophie’s Choice… Black Sabbath vs the Tour de France

As much as I like Black Sabbath I refuse to pay such high prices. We're off to Lille for the day on the Eurostar instead, will be great to watch the Grand Depart of the Tour de France instead #procycling #TourdeFrance2025

— Jacky-I'm retired & love it-still masking 😷 (@alswifejacky.bsky.social) February 11, 2025 at 4:53 PM

Quick, does anyone have a photo of Ozzy Osbourne riding a bike? 

12:57
Lancaster Grand Prix 2024 (Craig Zadoronyj/SWpix.com)
Lancaster Grand Prix cancelled for 2025 as organisers cite “logistical reasons” and funding “uncertainties” – but British Cycling confirms Tour of the Reservoir set to return for first time in six years in one-day format

The cloud hanging over the British domestic racing scene in recent years shows no signs of dissipating any time soon, following the news this morning that the Lancaster Grand Prix will not go ahead in 2025 due to logistical and funding issues.

According to a statement from British Cycling this morning, the popular race, which forms part of the governing body’s National Road Series and is regarded as one of the most selective events in the season-long competition, will not be held this season.

> “You need a billionaire to say ‘I’ll save the sport’. But that won’t happen”: Matt Holmes on why British cycling needs a reset and his journey from WorldTour pro to the “world’s most reluctant YouTuber”

The Lancaster Grand Prix’s organising committee, headed by Roy Holmes, the father of former Lotto pro Matt, says the decision has been made “due to a variety of logistical reasons and to uncertainties in funding and sponsorship”.

Nevertheless, despite these issues, the organisers insist that they are proceeding with plans for the event to return in 2026.

In more encouraging news, however, British Cycling also announced that the historic Tour of the Reservoir, one of Britain’s most prestigious domestic races, is set to finally return in 2025, following a six-year absence.

Jamie Shaw wins 2019 Tour of the Reservoir (Simon Wilkinson/SWpix.com)

James Shaw wins the 2019 Tour of the Reservoir (Simon Wilkinson/SWpix.com)

The race, established in 2005 as a two-day event, boats Dean and Russell Downing, as well as EF pro James Shaw among its winners, while a women’s race was also added in 2014, cementing its status as one of the calendar’s key dates.

> "I can't think of any British bike race that would run at a profit": Another organiser cancels cycle race amid spiralling costs

However, following the death of organiser Mike Hodgson in 2020, the race has struggled to establish itself and has not been held since Shaw’s win in 2019. An attempt to run it last year was cancelled due to “unforeseen obstacles”, though organiser Steve Walton told the British Continental in December that the iconic race “is very much on for 2025”.

And that’s proved the case, with British Cycling announcing that the Tour of the Reservoir will return to Consett as a one-day men’s and women’s race (Walton hopes it will revert to its old two-day format in time) on Sunday 22 June and will form part of the National Road Series, an unexpected boost for the event after it was initially left off the competition’s calendar.

15:58
Old name, new bikes: SuperX moniker returns to take over from the SuperSix EVO SE and CX as Cannondale’s off-road race bike
15:39
“There is no more beautiful reason to say goodbye”: Former world champion Chantal van den Broek-Blaak announces second pregnancy and early retirement

2017 world road race champion Chantal van den Broek-Blaak has confirmed today that she is retiring from the sport, a year earlier than expected, after announcing that she is expecting her second child.

The 35-year-old SD Worx rider is one of the most successful riders of her generation, winning the Tour of Flanders, Amstel Gold, Strade Bianche, Gent-Wevelgem, Ronde van Drenthe, and Omloop Het Nieuwsblad during an illustrious 17-year career.

At the 2017 road world championships in Bergen, days after taking silver in the time trial, she took advantage of the Netherlands’ numerical superiority and the confusion in the bunch to solo away to a deserved rainbow jersey, almost half a minute clear of her pursuers.

Chantal van den Broek-Blaak wins 2020 Tour of Flanders (CorVos/SWpix.com)

Van den Broek-Blaak winning the Tour of Flanders in 2020 (CorVos/SWpix.com)

After returning to the sport in 2024 following the birth of her daughter Noa, securing the final win of her career at the Dutch national championships, Van den Broek-Blaak was initially intending to hang up her wheels at the end of the season, renewing her deal with SD Worx.

However, after discovering that she was pregnant again at the start of January, the 35-year-old made the decision to step away from professional cycling for good.

“It took some switching, but there is no better reason to quit top-level sport,” Van den Broek-Blaak said in a statement today.

Referring to her return to racing in 2024, the Dutch champion said: “That was not an easy year. Especially mentally, I had to get used to the role of motherhood combined with top-level sport. I rode good races, but the stability was missing. Of course, capturing the Dutch title was a nice highlight, which showed that I could still compete for prizes at the highest level.

“I am now 35-years-old and wanted to flame another year. At the training camp in December, I was already pedalling good values at the tests. I finally had the same feeling on the bike as before my pregnancy and was eager to show the red-white-blue.

“In early January, we found out that I was pregnant again. It felt strange at first, but I soon realised how lucky I am to have got pregnant again so easily. This is what life is really all about. The farewell year is not coming now. With the 2024 season, in which I again became Dutch champion on the road, I was finally able to say goodbye to active cycling in a very nice way.”

 And in a post on Instagram, she added: “I had imagined my last season differently, give it one final push in the national jersey. But more than anything, I feel super happy and grateful for what’s ahead. There is no more beautiful reason to say goodbye.

“Looking back, I’m proud of everything I’ve achieved in my cycling career. It has been an amazing journey. Cycling was the best life lesson I could have, and the sport will always be in my heart. Exciting times ahead!”

11:35
Bike racks unscrewed Edinburgh (Edward Tissiman)
Bike thefts in Edinburgh jump by 20 per cent in 18 months, as Tory MSP slams “startling” figures and calls on council to increase number of secure bike hangars in city

A Conservative MSP has called on Edinburgh City Council to install more secure cycle parking facilities to tackle the city’s “serious” bike theft problem, after new Police Scotland figures revealed that the number of bikes reported as stolen in the Scottish capital have rocketed by almost 20 per cent in 18 months.

According to Police Scotland’s stats, in the 18 months from 1 July 2023 to 31 December 2024, there were 1,848 recorded bike thefts in Edinburgh – a jump of 19.5 per cent compared to the previous 18 months.

The figures were published after Lothian MSP Miles Briggs contacted Police Scotland following a wave of complaints from constituents whose bikes were stolen, prompting the Tory politician to urge the local council to do more to reduce the city’s “startling” cycle theft stats.

> Cyclist raises theft fears as bike rack easily unscrewed... but council says cycle parking "meets design requirements"

“These figures are startling and are a serious worry for bike owners in the capital,” Briggs told the Edinburgh Evening News.

“Bike theft is nothing new to Edinburgh and the Edinburgh police division has previously had great success in reducing the number of thefts, but more needs to be done now.

“I welcome the positive work which Police Scotland have undertaken in the past to inform residents on how to keep their bikes safe especially people living in tenements and students coming to study in the capital.”

Leith Walk attempted bike theft (screenshot via Marion Bell, Twitter)

> Thieves attempting to steal bike using angle grinder thwarted by passing locals

He continued: “An increase in bike storage facilities would be a good way of ensuring that bikes in the city are more secure.

“I have written to Edinburgh City Council to ask what plans are being developed to help provide more safe facilities for bikes to be stored.

“In the meantime, I would ask people to be vigilant and ensure their bikes are not left unattended or unchained in public areas.”

Edinburgh bike hangars (Cyclehoop)

> Over 3,000 cyclists waiting for bike hangar space, as council aims to deliver parking infrastructure "suitable for larger bikes and cargo bikes"

In response to Briggs’ complaints, Edinburgh City Council noted that there are currently 218 secure cycle hangars in operation in Edinburgh, providing space for 1,302 bikes, with 97 per cent of the spaces in use.

The local authority is also progressing the roll-out of the second phase of the project, which will see a further 162 hangars installed over the next year, bringing Edinburgh’s total provision to 380 hangars and 2,260 spaces.

Nevertheless, the council acknowledged that demand was high for spaces, with waiting lists in place for most existing hangars and a long list of requests from residents for hangars in new locations.

Transport and environment convener Stephen Jenkinson said: “Helping people keep their bikes secure is an essential part of good active travel provision, and our roll-out of hundreds of secure storage units across the city, providing thousands of spaces, has proved extremely popular.

“We’ll also continue working with Police Scotland to explore theft prevention initiatives, like bike marking.”

13:48
Alright, Discovery, I’ll pay the £31 a month if you promise to show Jörg Muller stealing a police officer’s gun during the 1989 Tour de France over and over, deal?

Can't believe I just watched footage of a 1989 tour de france rider grabbing an officer's service weapon mid stage. And eurosport expect people to pay £30 a month when this doesn't happen anymore?

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— CalumOnWheels (@calumonwheels.bsky.social) February 10, 2025 at 9:30 PM

Ah, the eighties, different times… 

12:05
Visma-Lease a Bike’s Olav Kooij doubles up at Tour of Oman with sprint victory ahead of Giacomo Nizzolo, as David Gaudu retains race lead

If a Dutch sprinter continues his flying start to 2025 at a race with barely any roadside fans, and with no TV coverage, did it actually happen?

No, I’m not talking about the existential crisis facing every UK-based cycling fan in next month’s post-apocalyptic – sorry, I mean post-Eurosport world. I’m referring to Olav Kooij’s second stage win at the Tour of Oman this morning, a race where the coverage is so scarce it appears to exist solely as a timely, doom-laden harbinger of bike race viewing to come.

Anyway, according to the handful of wobbly videos and photos uploaded to social media by the race organisers, Visma-Lease a Bike’s Kooij made it two from two in bunch kicks this week, taking advantage of Uno-X’s Erlend Blikra’s decision to launch his sprint early on the drag to the line, coming off his wheel with 200m to go and holding off Giacomo Nizzolo for the victory, as Movistar’s Orluis Aular took third ahead of the fading Blikra.

“It was good for me. We could control the finish with the team, and they helped me very well,” Kooij said after the stage.

“We knew the last kilometre would be important to get in a good position. I could then follow the right wheels to start my sprint at exactly the right moment.

“After coming from the winter in Europe, it takes some time to get used to [racing], but the feelings are good.”

The 23-year-old Dutch sprinter – who once again looks set to miss out on a Tour de France debut this year due to Visma’s GC ambitions – can now bask in the glory of a job well done in Oman, as tomorrow’s summit finish to Green Mountain promises to be an explosive battle between race leader David Gaudu and reigning champion Adam Yates.

If we could see it, that is.

10:37
Tadej Pogačar, Arenberg training ride, 2025 (Tim Wellens, Instagram)
“No Paris-Roubaix for Tadej Pogačar – at the moment,” say UAE Team Emirates… So, you’re telling me there’s a chance?

Ah, Pogi-Roubaix, we hardly knew ye.

Yesterday morning, Tadej Pogačar set the online cycling world alight by mischievously posting a video of himself tearing over the jagged cobbles of the Trouée d'Arenberg, sparking speculation that the world champion is set to make his Paris-Roubaix debut this April.

However, while social media was abuzz with excitement about the prospect of a mouthwatering duel on the cobbles with Van der Poel and Van Aert, Pogačar’s old adage that “Twitter is for trolling” appears to have crept over to Instagram, after his UAE Team Emirates squad were quick to point out that, no, the Hell of the North has not been added to their Slovenian star’s 2025 programme… Yet.

> “Hey, not too fast!” Tadej Pogačar tests himself on the jagged cobbles of the infamous Arenberg Forest during Paris-Roubaix-themed training ride… Is the world champion finally ready to tackle the Hell of the North?

Speaking to Daniel Benson, UAE’s sports manager Matxin Joxean Fernandez claimed that the Arenberg recon was merely part of a wider trip assessing the key sections of Gent-Wevelgem, the Tour of Flanders, and Roubaix with sports director Fabio Baldato and teammate Tim Wellens, who is pencilled in to race the Hell of the North this year.

“They were in the area and did the recon of the Arenberg. In Tadej’s initial race programme, there’s no Paris-Roubaix this year. He simply did three days looking at the Tour of Flanders, Gent-Wevelgem, and then Paris-Roubaix,” Fernandez told Benson.

“He was looking at the materials, the tyres, the bike and was riding with them and looking at the critical moments of those races.

“Tim is racing Paris-Roubaix, and Tadej went with him. At the moment, we’ve not looked at Roubaix for his race programme. Normally, he’ll stop after the Tour of Flanders and prepare for the Ardennes Classics.”

Asked if Pogačar could ultimately add Roubaix to his plans after the Tour of Flanders, Fernandez said: “We can’t speak about this. Maybe after Flanders, he has good confidence, but it all depends on the situation, but at the moment, no.”

So… you’re telling me there’s a chance?

Fernandez was equally vague when pressed about the world champion’s apparent plan to target the Vuelta a España, the only grand tour he’s yet to win, later this year after the Tour.

“We’ll see soon, I think at the UAE Tour, it will be explained and announced by Tadej himself. I know, but the communication will be for the team at that moment,” he said.

So, one more time… Twitter is for trolling, Instagram is for nice photos, and team staff statements are for keeping things vague and the online speculation rolling.

10:10
Thibaut Pinot being peak Thibaut Pinot

Oh, your morning’s been fine, but it’s still missing a few photos of a mercurial retired French climber hugging a Highland calf, you say? Well, I’ve got just the post for you:

The only thing that could out-Thibaut Pinot this brilliant Insta post is one of the former FDJ star sobbing at the side of the road after going down in a blaze of glory at a grand tour, as baby goats frolic in the field behind him…

After obtaining a PhD, lecturing, and hosting a history podcast at Queen’s University Belfast, Ryan joined road.cc in December 2021 and since then has kept the site’s readers and listeners informed and enthralled (well at least occasionally) on news, the live blog, and the road.cc Podcast. After boarding a wrong bus at the world championships and ruining a good pair of jeans at the cyclocross, he now serves as road.cc’s senior news writer. Before his foray into cycling journalism, he wallowed in the equally pitiless world of academia, where he wrote a book about Victorian politics and droned on about cycling and bikes to classes of bored students (while taking every chance he could get to talk about cycling in print or on the radio). He can be found riding his bike very slowly around the narrow, scenic country lanes of Co. Down.

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brooksby | 4 hours ago
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Nothing at all to do with cycling, but just very (unintentionally) funny:

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mitsky | 5 hours ago
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"Tory MSP says something positive/usefull for cyclists"

Either it is 1st of April or he isn't a Tory.

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don simon fbpe | 5 hours ago
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It'll be a bit chilly in those there Atlas Mountains too. #nutters

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chocim | 8 hours ago
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"covering 13,000km over seven days" - that would be QUITE a pace. It should read 1,300 km.

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HoarseMann | 9 hours ago
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https://www.thamesvalley.police.uk/news/thames-valley/news/2025/february...

"Between 4pm and 4.30pm on Tuesday (4/2), the offender, who was on a push-bike, punched the wing mirrors off the victim’s car on V6 Grafton Street.

The victim, a man in his fifties, got out of his black Range Rover on the dual carriage way and the offender assaulted the victim, leaving him to fall unconscious on the floor."

Hmm, I'm willing to bet there's more than one victim involved here. Also, do Range Rovers have 'wing' mirrors?!

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panda replied to HoarseMann | 8 hours ago
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I'll bite.  They do have wing mirrors - that's what they're called because they enable you to see down the wing of the car.  They're usually attached to the door because that's the best place to put them; it's a bit like the rear view mirror (which is what you use to see what's behind you) being attached to the inside of the windscreen rather than being part of the scenery behind the car.  <adjusts spectacles>

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Paul J replied to panda | 7 hours ago
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panda wrote:

that's what they're called because they enable you to see down the wing of the car.

No, they were called wing mirrors because they used to be mounted on the front wings of the car. The wings being the covers over the wheel - which eventually merged with the body work. This was pretty much the norm to about the early 70s. Just google for "Morris Minor", or "Morris Marina" (earlier versions), or any 50s or 60s car.

The wing is not the side of the car - not generally anyway.

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panda replied to Paul J | 7 hours ago
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So ... hahaha ... I made that point previously (minus the Morris Minor reference) on this very forum and was told in an equally authoritative tone that the panel over the front wheel is indeed called the front wing but that wing refers to the side of the car more generally and that panel is only called the front wing to distinguish it from the door (and I guess rear wing).  It made sense to me because of the more general usage of "wing" in e.g. architectural terms which would pre-date the car.  

There are lots of words in common usage which derive from some former incarnation.  Nobody thinks twice about referring to the thing the instrument panel is mounted on as the "dashboard", But it's hard to argue that the current dashboard's job is to stop dash from the horses' hooves getting all over everyone instead of onto the side of 1970s houses where it belongs. 

Either way, they're wing mirrors because that's what they're called regardless of what they're attached to.

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chrisonabike replied to panda | 7 hours ago
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panda wrote:

Nobody thinks twice about referring to the thing the instrument panel is mounted on as the "dashboard", ...

Binnacle, shurely?!  Or console at a push (since that is now used for "electronic entertainment system" it's getting more appropriate...)

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HoarseMann replied to panda | 7 hours ago
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It was a tongue-in-cheek reference to the regular debates about this subject 'swldxer' used to initiate on this forum 😉!

I have to say, I've never tried to wrestle a wing mirror from a Range Rover. I can't imagine it's that easy, so to do both is quite something. Sounds like quite a serious incident for the driver to have ended up unconscious.

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Bungle_52 replied to HoarseMann | 7 hours ago
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So the person who got out of their car to confront a cyclist is the victim. How does that work?

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Hirsute replied to Bungle_52 | 6 hours ago
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Because they were then punched and ended up in hospital
"The victim suffered a concussion and bruising and swelling to his face which required hospital treatment. He has since been discharged."

Although if a cyclist confronts illegal behaviour then they are causing incitement.

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HoarseMann replied to Hirsute | 5 hours ago
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I think just seeing a cyclist is enough incitement for some motorists!

Getting out of you vehicle to have a confrontation is never a good idea. Possibly a case of whoever lost the fist fight is considered the victim?

We shall have to wait and see if more details emerge. But this particularly interests me, as I'm quite local to the area and have had some woeful experiences with Thames Valley Police's roads policing.

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Hirsute replied to HoarseMann | 5 hours ago
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People who drive wankpanzers are usually entitled. Hard to believe the cyclist damaged the wing mirrors with no good reason.

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The_Ewan replied to Hirsute | 4 hours ago
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It's hard to imagine a legally defensible reason for doing both of them though, "He's a cock, your honour" not usually being an acceptable mitigation.

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Hirsute replied to The_Ewan | 4 hours ago
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Except no one really knows what happened. Perhaps the driver threw a punch and the cyclist defended themselves and connected first. Then that's more self defence.

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Secret_squirrel replied to Hirsute | 3 hours ago
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Are we really meant to believe the cyclist punched off one wing mirror, jumped off his bike, ran around the other side to punch off the other, and then had a pop at the motorist as well - all unprovoked?   Possible I guess but unlikely. 

We all know the likelyhood of bellend behaviour increases from Range Rover drivers.

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