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"My name's Paul and you're a d***": Jeremy Vine verbally abused by impatient Bentley driver; "This is where bicycle N+1 may lead you. Be aware!": Whose garage looks like this?; Reaction to Tour route; Bike storage petition + more on the live blog

Another day, another live blog... Dan Alexander is in the hot seat once again...
27 October 2022, 17:08
Have a great evening...

The live blog will be back tomorrow mornig. We'll leave you with this...

Countdown

27 October 2022, 14:48
"My name's Paul and you're a d***": Jeremy Vine verbally abused by impatient Bentley driver

It's been a while since Jeremy Vine appeared on the live blog... but the broadcaster and social media sharer of all things cycling is back with a bang... and by bang I mean footage of a Bentley driver who just can't seem to understand that people other than himself are allowed to use the roads...

On the route where there used to be a segregated cycle lane before it was ripped out by the council back in 2020, Vine is beeped and told to... yep, get in the cycle lane... 

Aside from the verbals, 'Paul' demonstrates a textbook piece of MGIF (must get in front) driving to race ahead of fellow road users... only to achieve the square root of zilch, arriving at the red traffic light seconds earlier than if he'd listened to Take That's advice and had a little patience.

The explanation: "You're in the wrong lane! [...] Why aren't you in that [left-hand] lane [...] you deliberately went in front of me in the wrong lane. Get in the bloody cycle lane [...] I drive how I want, you don't own the road, believe it or not [...] My name's Paul and you're a dick"...

Charming.

27 October 2022, 14:12
The 'as a keen cyclist myself' Halloween costume
27 October 2022, 13:47
Cofidis will be riding Look bikes once again in 2023
2022 Look 795 Blade RS Disc Proteam - riding 1.jpg

Look will be back in the pro peloton next season, with French team Cofidis returning to the bike manufacturer for 2023 and beyond. The multi-year sponsorship deal will see the men's WorldTour, women's Continental Pro Team and UCI Paracycling Team all use Look's bikes, pedals and CORIMA wheels.

It's the latest chapter in Look's illustrious racing history — its pedals saw their first pro-tour victory via Bernard Hinault at the Tour de France in 1984, and Look's bikes powered Greg LeMond to yellow a year later, while Laurent Jalabert achieved 111 victories aboard the brand's various machines through the 90s.

Where do Look's machines rank in the pro peloton bike hierarchy? Are they one of the best bikes on display?

27 October 2022, 13:08
What's a man got to do to get the second longest cycle tunnel in Europe?

> Report that Wales will get Europe's longest cycling tunnel premature, say campaigners 

27 October 2022, 12:01
Cav: "There are definitely a lot of opportunities for sprints in 2023"
MArk Cavendish after equalling Eddy Merckx's record - picture credit A.S.O./Pauline Ballet

[📷: A.S.O./Pauline Ballet]

Cav's had his say on the route... "Everybody dreams about the Tour de France. There are definitely a lot of opportunities for the sprinters in 2023"

By our calculations stage three, four, seven, maybe eight, 11, 18, 19 and 21 should be for the fast men...

Pog was pleased with what he saw too...

Tadej Pogačar at 2022 Tour de France stage 11 (SWPix/Zac Williams)

[📷: Zac Williams/SWpix.com]

"I really like the course, it's going to be very nice. It's very good that the difficult stages come early!"

Our in-depth look at the men's and women's routes is coming soon...

27 October 2022, 11:44
Reader N+1ing

Time for some lunchtime comments... 

Live blog N+1

What a set up mark1a's got... I'm giving that a strong 9/10...

Not so sure about Wales56's... I feel like we've seen this one before...

Live blog N+1

essexiain: "A few years back, I got given an ultimatum. I could either downsize my stable of bicycles which only totalled six at the time, or my lady would leave taking the cat with her.

"Sigh. I miss that cat.  

"(In reality, I gave four of the bikes to a recycling charity….. and brought a new TI MTB and £4K carbon road bike to replace them…)"

chrisonatrike replied: "Similar story here but fewer bikes.  And I do miss the cat.  Having said that I don't have to clean hair off the chains now.  Or oil off the cat.

"The bikes were one source of friction but the growing parts bin also caused some discord!"

27 October 2022, 10:46
And the men's...

More on this later... 

27 October 2022, 10:28
Time to climb... Tour de France Femmes route includes Tourmalet summit finish

Ryan is going to have a deep dive into both the (soon-to-be revealed) men's route and the women's later on, but here's a quick look at the latter...

If last year's was a de facto Tour de North East France, next year's will be a Tour de South West France, including a venture into the Pyrenees.

One mega mountain stage, a couple for the puncheurs, four 'flat' days and a final-stage TT...

Here's the highlight though...

cc: Annemiek van Vleuten 

27 October 2022, 10:12
The annual cyclists wear normal clothes meltdown

White trainers are the order of the day...Cav, Pidcock and Pog were just three of the sparkly white shoe wearers. Maxime Bouet was not...

Pogačar  looking like he'll be on someone's shoulders belting out Come on Eileen come half ten...

27 October 2022, 09:35
Cav's on tie duty

 

27 October 2022, 09:33
A proper Tour de France (unless you live inland)
27 October 2022, 08:09
Reader's bike storage petition

A quick shout-out to road.cc reader Kerry who forwarded us her petition to make bike storage pods a requirement for all new building developments...

"Everyone focuses on getting people out on bikes for leisure or commuting. But what happens when you arrive at your destination? Where do you securely store your bike? How do you charge it if it is an e-bike? I have started a petition and I would love to get it signed and shared," she told us.

As per the petition description...

We want the provision of secure weatherproof individual bike storage pods, with charging points, to be made a planning condition for all new building developments — residential, commercial or public.

To answer Kerry's rhetorical question, about what happens when you arrive at your destination? It normally ends up with something like this...

Plymouth bike rack (CC licensed by Tim Peters via Flickr).jpg

Or this...

Shit bike rack (via Horsham District Cycling Forum on Twitter)

Or even...

Lidl cycle parking @Matt_Hill_UK/Twitter
27 October 2022, 08:05
Anything big happening in Paris today?
 

Yep, today's the day the route for the 2023 Tour de France is revealed... so that'll explain Tom P's pacey 8km around the French capital's Bois de Boulogne park, starting and finishing at the Arc de Triomphe, of course. 

We'll bring you full details of the route as and when we have them...

27 October 2022, 07:56
"This is where bicycle N+1 may lead you. Be aware!": Whose garage looks like this?

Come on, own up, whose garage looks like Jez's?

Amongst the impressive haul... a Moulton Super Deluxe from 1964 and plenty more modern...

> Do you really need another bike? Find out what n+1 means 

Obviously Jez isn't the only one to have collected more than a few bicycles over the years in the name of N+1... cue the collections...

Does that look familiar to anybody? 

Dan is the road.cc news editor and joined in 2020 having previously written about nearly every other sport under the sun for the Express, and the weird and wonderful world of non-league football for The Non-League Paper. Dan has been at road.cc for four years and mainly writes news and tech articles as well as the occasional feature. He has hopefully kept you entertained on the live blog too.

Never fast enough to take things on the bike too seriously, when he's not working you'll find him exploring the south of England by two wheels at a leisurely weekend pace, or enjoying his favourite Scottish roads when visiting family. Sometimes he'll even load up the bags and ride up the whole way, he's a bit strange like that.

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Rendel Harris | 2 years ago
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Yep, today's the day the route for the 2023 Tour de France is revealed... so that'll explain Tom P's pacey 8km around the French capital's Bois de Boulogne park, starting and finishing at the Arc de Triomphe, of course.

Un pédant écrit... actually starting and finishing around Neuilly-Porte Maillot, the Arc is over a kilometre away down the Avenue de la Grande Armée.

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mark1a replied to Rendel Harris | 2 years ago
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Rendel Harris wrote:

Un pédant ecrit... 

A pedant writes - the verb écrire has an acute accent. 

Je suis désolé, je sortirais plus mais...
 

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Rendel Harris replied to mark1a | 2 years ago
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mark1a wrote:

Rendel Harris wrote:

Un pédant ecrit... 

A pedant writes - the verb écrire has an acute accent. 

Je suis désolé, je sortirais plus mais...
 

Zut alors, quel embarras! Corrigée.
 

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eburtthebike | 2 years ago
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With pages getting this long, how about a "back to the top" button visible on any open page?

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AlsoSomniloquism | 2 years ago
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Linking from the bus story above. On the BBC.

Very very lucky 7yo, and weirdly the Police and the Bus company are investigating even though there is no number plate reported to them. Just the time and place of the incident. 

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hawkinspeter replied to AlsoSomniloquism | 2 years ago
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AlsoSomniloquism wrote:

Linking from the bus story above. On the BBC.

Very very lucky 7yo, and weirdly the Police and the Bus company are investigating even though there is no number plate reported to them. Just the time and place of the incident. 

Strange how they're describing it as 'careless' driving when I'd consider it to be clearly dangerous driving. Ignoring traffic lights is given as a classic example and I'd guess it applies to pedestrian lights too.

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AlsoSomniloquism replied to hawkinspeter | 2 years ago
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We have already seen several incidents of drivers only getting careless charges for charging through Red Lights. "It was a momentary lapse". So it does seem to be a "drive" to normalise that for motor vehicles in the same way speeding is only classed as careless in the majority of cases. 

Yet cyclists would be classed as Dangerous in the same circumstances. (Speeding being going too fast then a driver / ped expects of course). 

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wtjs replied to AlsoSomniloquism | 2 years ago
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We have already seen several incidents of drivers only getting careless charges for charging through Red Lights. "It was a momentary lapse". So it does seem to be a "drive" to normalise that for motor vehicles in the same way speeding is only classed as careless in the majority of cases

Ah! an opportunity presented itself sooner than anticipated. In Lancashire, passing traffic lights at red has been so normalised that they don't suffer 'only careless charges'- the police don't trouble them with any charges at all unless they actually KSI somebody (cyclists excepted)

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wtjs replied to AlsoSomniloquism | 2 years ago
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Linking from the bus story above. On the BBC(link is external).

Very very lucky 7yo, and weirdly the Police and the Bus company are investigating even though there is no number plate reported to them. Just the time and place of the incident. 

I can state with absolute certainty what the response from Lancashire Constabulary would be if that had occurred here. If that was submitted to OpSnapLancs now there would just be no response at all- it's simply a Black Hole. If it had been sent in a year ago, they would have said there is no evidence that the driver was confronted with a red light as the video does not show the traffic lights from the front. NFA. Of course, what they really mean is 'No KSI = No Offence'. There was, as you will all anticipate by now, no response whatsoever from expletive-deleted Lancashire Constabulary to this offence by the driver of Kirkby Lonsdale bus UA 5013. I could have shown Porsche DS 6972 going through a red light on 22nd October, but people are pretty bored with those because there are so many in Lancashire

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NOtotheEU | 2 years ago
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Oh dear, I just realised I've been wearing a halloween costume to work every day since I hit middle age!

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Rome73 replied to NOtotheEU | 2 years ago
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That explains a lot ! 

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NOtotheEU replied to Rome73 | 2 years ago
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It could explain why I'm single at least, and maybe why some drivers seem to be intent on driving into me.

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eburtthebike | 2 years ago
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"Bike lane where two cyclists have been killed in recent months does not comply with minimum safety standards, council warned last year"

No comments allowed on this story?  It doesn't say, so maybe a glitch.

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brooksby replied to eburtthebike | 2 years ago
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More likely they're wanting to take pity on the keyboards of certain regulars on here...

(I must admit, if that lane doesn't meet minimum safety standards then none of the ones in Bristol and surrounding areas do...).

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ShutTheFrontDawes replied to brooksby | 2 years ago
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You're right; none of the cycle lanes in Bristol meet the minimum safety standard. I have never cycled in a cycle lane in Bristol that meet the minimum width guidance of 2m.

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AlsoSomniloquism replied to eburtthebike | 2 years ago
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I think it might be because the story also contains two ongoing Police investigations.

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Hirsute | 2 years ago
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andystow replied to Hirsute | 2 years ago
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hirsute wrote:

More vigilantes

https://twitter.com/edtiss/status/1585596632271392770

https://twitter.com/edtiss/status/1585534683558952960

Do Police Scotland really care about roadcrime ?

Is it illegal to wear a costume covered in small carbide-tipped spikes so they're guaranteed to badly scratch their paint if they hit you?

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hawkinspeter replied to andystow | 2 years ago
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andystow wrote:

hirsute wrote:

More vigilantes

https://twitter.com/edtiss/status/1585596632271392770

https://twitter.com/edtiss/status/1585534683558952960

Do Police Scotland really care about roadcrime ?

Is it illegal to wear a costume covered in small carbide-tipped spikes so they're guaranteed to badly scratch their paint if they hit you?

Listen officer, this is purely a fashion choice and I had no idea that drivers often go through that junction on red. Yes, I was flailing my arms around a lot, but that's because this jacket chafes a bit.

 

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chrisonabike replied to hawkinspeter | 2 years ago
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Looks good but probably can't afford it - so I'm off to Rob Halford's.

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Hirsute replied to Hirsute | 2 years ago
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"In 2022 MikeyCycling's street revolt started to develop into a mass movement. Seldom before on Britain's mean streets had pedestrians & cyclists challenged the all powerful law-breaking motorist lobby."

 

https://twitter.com/DeaconThurston/status/1585718635930488832

"Stopped at the Brunswick Road junction on the way home to see what all the fuss is about. It's utter chaos — all caused by countless drivers wilfully ignoring clear signage to make illegal turns across a ped crossing. Absolutely crazy, someone's going to get seriously hurt."

Very loud horn too !

 

 

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Rendel Harris | 2 years ago
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Tour route looks brilliant, definitely a climber's race. At first sight the mountaintop finishes on Grand Colombier and (at last, after 34 years!) Puy de Dome look standouts.

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Cycloid | 2 years ago
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Bicycle N+1 - not a problem!
If this unreasonably becomes a topic of dispute with your partner it's because they simply need educating. I find a simple comparison works well.

"How many pairs of shoes do you have (Dear)
I'll make do with one bike if you have one pair of shoes.
May I suggest the wellies?
Those expensive heels won't last five minutes in the garden"

The above information may save your bikes, but it will destroy my marriage if my wife sees it!

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essexian replied to Cycloid | 2 years ago
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That might work.... unless you have, including your cycling shoes and trainers.... more shoes than your lady does.

Ops. And no, I am not downsizing my shoe collection although I do wish she would stop calling me "Ian Marcos" whenever I turn up with a new pair. 

 

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quiff replied to essexian | 2 years ago
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essexian wrote:

That might work.... unless you have, including your cycling shoes and trainers.... more shoes than your lady does.

See also handbags -vs- bike bags. I'm definitely catching up in that category...

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Bungle_52 | 2 years ago
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Just signed the petition. Thanks for the heads up.

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AlsoSomniloquism | 2 years ago
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Continuing on from the Choley New Road story, this steetview pic should be forwarded to the Councilor on why the orcas and wands might make some difference to cyclists safety.

 

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squired | 2 years ago
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Gotta love bike racks.  I recently had an appointment at a hospital, so decided to cycle there.  The only bike racks available were not actually attached to the ground.  Thankfully my bike was still there when I returned from my appointment (which happened 40 minutes late).  My other recent use of a bike rack resulted in someone presumably ramming my bike with a trolley while I was in-store because my rear mudguard was destroyed and the rear wheel would no longer move.  Damn those unlicenced and uninsured pedestrians.  They damage my bike and walk off without a care in the world!

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mark1a | 2 years ago
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My current fleet. The one in the workstand is not mine, it's my brother's being serviced. Although it did used to be mine before he had it.

 

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IanMSpencer replied to mark1a | 2 years ago
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Hmm, spies telly in the corner, - that's not a bike shed, that's a lounge. I like the cut of your jib.

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