Live blog: Yob films himself braking so cyclist goes through rear windscreen; an innovative way to resolve this week’s helmet dispute + more
SUMMARY
Yob films himself braking so that cyclist goes through his rear windscreen
A video has been posted to Facebook of a driver slamming on his brakes so that a cyclist smashes through his rear windscreen. The footage was shot by the driver.
Several newspapers have reported on this, but it is not known when or where the footage was shot.
How to resolve the MIPS v WaveCel helmet dispute
This is easily solved by putting one person in a WaveCel helmet and one person in a MIPS helmet and having them charge at each other at full speed joust-style with heads bowed.https://t.co/bHC4dTRuY3
— Bike Snob NYC (@bikesnobnyc) March 21, 2019
References this.
Manchester to trial European-style zebra crossings at side roads
Another great slab of investment’s been announced in Manchester’s Beelines Network (more on that later). As well as a bunch of major construction projects, they’re going to trial European-style zebra crossings.
Transport for Greater Manchester has proposed an independent research project to investigate using European-style crossings at minor side road junctions to improve safety and enhance the experience for people travelling on foot or by bike.
Currently, zebra crossing-style markings are only permitted on UK roads where Belisha Beacons and zig zag markings are also in place and can cost around £30,000. If European-style crossings were to be permitted in the UK it would bring the cost per side road junction down to around £500.
Chris Boardman said: “The majority of European cities use zebra crossings at side roads to give a clear and simple message to drivers that they must give way to people travelling on foot. They are used in cities across the world and now we want to see if this approach can work in Greater Manchester.
“If it can, and with help from Department for Transport, it will enable us to quickly and cheaply ensure that people are much better protected on every-day journeys including trips to school, to the shops, to work.”
Proposals for a new Greater Manchester bike hire scheme
No real details yet, but a proposal to bring forward a Greater Manchester bike hire scheme will be considered by the Greater Manchester Combined Authority on March 29.
Further details will be announced in the Spring, apparently.
Next wave of Bee Network projects: £137m to be invested in 18 new cycling and walking schemes around Manchester
Oxford man jailed for using his dog 'as a weapon' against city centre cyclists
The road.cc ride out was fun as always!
And the rain even hold off… thanks for coming everyone!
CHPT3 unveils Milan-Sanremo inspired collection
David Millar’s design house CHPT3 has collaborated with long-term partner Castelli to produce a collection of cycling kit inspired by Milan-Sanremo, just prior to this year’s editions (it takes place tomorrow).
The MSR Jersey (£120) is made with a fabric previously exclusive to Castelli’s Maglia Rosa jersey, so it is a race weight, aerodynamic and high-wicking.
CHPT3 designers have softened the race jersey it is based on by including a touch of elastane and employing a less constrictive cut.
“The colours of the MSR Jersey reflect the muted, industrial portion of the race, inferring what’s to come with flashes of Mediterranean colour woven in,” says CHPT3. “Meanwhile, the rear pockets show the chevrons of the Turchino Pass – the turning point in the race.”
The MSR Base Layer (£70) is made from a lightweight mesh fabric originally chosen by Castelli to make a super-lightweight climber’s jersey for the Tour de France.
“MSR embodies so much of the madness inherent in our sport: a 300km race where everything happens in the final 30km,” says David Millar. “Racers will always split races into sections. MSR is two halves, the tunnel of the Turchino Pass is the spiritual halfway point. The moment we exit the tunnel we descend to the coast and enter a brave new world – one where we’re more at home.
“With the MSR collection, we’ve taken this racing mindstate of compartmentalising everything and created a beautiful design, splitting the race up by the visual impression it leaves.”
The MSR collection, which also includes a cycling cap (£25) and socks (£18), is available now from CHPT3.com and selected retailers.
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@Rendel Harris Interestingly, and it sort of supports my theory that UAE were being cunning, Pog has the mountains jersey today because he was the quickest up the final climb, which argues that he hadn't burnt all his matches when he got to the finish.
@JLasTSR It takes time. I got knocked off nine years ago in broad daylight on a roundabout, by a driver who was wearing very dark glasses, I'm suspicious that he was actually visually impaired. No prosecution. It took me a few years to get my confidence back. I wish you all the best in getting the enjoyment back.
@tomlew That sounds like someone who is thinking about GC to me. I don't think your comparison with 16-year-old footballers is particularly valid, ultimately football at every level is played on roughly the same size to pitch, the goals are the same size and there are eleven players on each team. If professional football was played on a pitch three times the size with goals half the size and for five hours instead of ninety minutes, that might be a good comparison. I have no objection to Seixas riding this tour for experience, I think it's a good idea, but as I've said, I don't think he's got any chance of winning unless something major happens to the big contenders (he's already shipped 39 seconds and 27 seconds respectively to the big dogs) and if he tries too hard he could receive humiliating setbacks that could damage him psychologically throughout his career. You say "If I were a prodigy cyclist youngster with a realistic shot at winning, I might take [the risk] even if I knew it might be the end of my career", but he doesn't have a realistic shot at winning and in taking the risk he might be putting in jeopardy the possibility of winning multiple Tours in future. I don't think this is a situation where a "death or glory" approach is suitable. We shall reconvene in three weeks time and see what happened, and I'm quite happy to be proved wrong and if he does win this year it would certainly mean we had had a thrilling Tour.
@Rendel Harris I absolutely know all that. But that's exactly what I said: he is risking a lot, but the reward might be worth it. It is only a matter of judgment. And by the way, AFAIK nobody said he's going to ride to win the GC. Maybe the plan is exactly to learn his lessons this year so that next year nobody can say he's too inexperienced to really go for victory. Of course, he could ride the Vuelta, but what better place is there to learn the TdF than TdF itself? Times have changed. No more pecking orders, 16-year-old footballers are already shaking the world (even though most of them do indeed get chewed and spat out badly, but again: that's a risk they take). Why wouldn't the same happen in cycling?
Sôme interesting comments from Wright and Stewart about 'losing' thé team élément a bit with thé new format
And I don’t know when you wrote this but I think it was published 9 days after Onley was confirmed out of the Tour.
Paul Seixas’ team is Decathlon CMA CGM
The best thing about the TTT as Stage 1 is that it emphasises the fact that cycling grand tours incl the TDF are a team sport.
If you click through and read the story you'll see that the first motorist hit the cyclist, and the second, following, motorist then also hit them while they were lying in the road - both were convicted of causing the cyclist's death.
I may be reading far too much into it, but I felt as though Pogacar and UAE weren't actually that bothered about winning today. Not having yellow to defend and all the extra press etc to do this early in the race is an indisputable advantage; I just got the impression that they were out to lose no more than a handful of seconds but not to bury themselves for the win. With about 2.5kms to go I thought that if Pogacar really wanted it he would have gone from there, but he stayed with Del Toro for nearly another kilometre even though the body language was saying that no way was Del Toro in as good shape as Pogacar. Even after the finish he didn't seem as wiped out as Ganna (whom I don't think I've ever seen quite so shattered) or Jonas. As I say, might be reading too much into it but I would not be surprised if UAE had played a very clever hand not to lose any meaningful time but to avoid the burden of yellow from the get go.
31 thoughts on “Live blog: Yob films himself braking so cyclist goes through rear windscreen; an innovative way to resolve this week’s helmet dispute + more”
Surely that’s causing injury
Surely that’s causing injury by careless (or something, FFS!) driving?? Clearly intentional.
(Admittedly, the chances of actually tracking it down…).
brooksby wrote:
Driver INTENTIONALLY applied the brakes, anyone sensible person would clearly see that as dangerous but unfortunately I doubt you’d get a jury of his peers (who will likely be drivers) would see it that way and just class it as careless 🙁
Was there a motor on the bike
Was there a motor on the bike? Seems like it.
Clearly using the phone
Clearly using the phone whilst driving and capturing a deliberate attempt to harm another road user – a prosecution should be a formality.
I could be wrong but kind of
I could be wrong but kind of looks fake to me.
The cyclist is on the path from the start and the driver knew he would join the road? The way he smashes into the rear window doesn’t look right and his reaction seems off, similar to other fake videos I’ve seen.
If it is somehow real then the driver should face no less than the death penatly
NorthEastJimmy wrote:
Actually you can clearly see him look over his shoulder as he pulls on to the road
Face clearly identifiable,
Face clearly identifiable, make of car can be determined aas a grey micra and the shape will give an age to it. Police should be able to narrow it down a bit to males in the right age range, and add in the accent they should be able to get pretty close to a region too.
I’d be surprised if this hadn’t been reported by the cyclist, unless it was a setup.
As has been mentioned looks
As has been mentioned looks like a motorcyclist of the e variety seeing as he’s not pedalling at all.
Yob films motorcyclist crash into car in fake attempt at viral video. That’s better.
The most surprising thing
The only surprising thing about this is this website’s use of the word “yob”. I thought that wasn’t allowed these days. Surely, in the modern parlance, he is a left-behind, with concerns about sharing the road with people he dislikes, which elites like us have failed to recognize. The local BBC radio station will probably get him on to provide ‘balance’ the next time they have a “Cyclists: nuisance or menace?” call-in.
Definitely something fishy
Definitely something fishy about that…
JohnnyRemo wrote:
Both on the wrongside of the road too.
If it’s fake:
If it’s fake:
– no seatbelt
– using a phone whilst driving
If it’s real:
– deliberately causing an accident (irrespective of whether bike has a motor)
– no seatbelt
– using a phone whilst driving
Likely police action:
If it’s fake: no action
If it’s real: caution the cyclist for not wearing a helmet, cycling on a pavement and / or cycling too close to a car and / or – the video doesn’t show a driver not wearing a seatbelt, using a phone whilst driving or causing an accident.
Several news papers carried
Several news papers carried this fake content so road.cc jumps on the bandwagon, come on Alex.
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Regardless of whether this is
Regardless of whether this is set up, unless it was a closed road (which I doubt), then surely there is still an offensive. Does using a car in an attempt to make a viral video class as dangerous or careless driving??
Trouble is, fake or not, and
Trouble is, fake or not, and I’m in the fake brigade, the dullards will see this and think I’ll try that, no one will get hurt.
Trouble is, fake or not, and
Trouble is, fake or not, and I’m in the fake brigade, the dullards will see this and think I’ll try that, no one will get hurt.
If its real they can’t
If its real they can’t convict him for deliberately causing the accident because you can’t see the front, so we don’t know that a kid didn’t run out onto the road or whatever.
Kadinkski wrote:
How would the drive rhave known? He wasn’t paying any attention to what was happening in front of him.
If this is a fake, then he’s just paid for it with a smashed rear window, so serves him right. If not fake, then I’m sure the full force of the law will come down on him (yeah, right).
Kendalred wrote:
Even it is fake, and all pre-arranged, then isn’t “pi$$ing around on the road, braking unnecessarily so as to cause a hazard to other road users, and breaking glass everywhere” all still covered by some law or other?
As always bikesnobnyc gets to
As always bikesnobnyc gets to the real heart of the matter.
Was it down-hill? (explains
Was it down-hill? (explains speed and no pedalling).
Cyclist was going at speed on a pavement.
I thought cyclists were
I thought cyclists were clever, looks like I’m mistaken and I retain my title as an elite being. Fake or not, what you’ve all failed to spot is that the video is flipped, the car is driving on the wrong side of the road, therefore it’s the passenger filming, not the driver. Still doesn’t excuse idiotic and dangerous behaviour.
Lucero79 wrote:
I already mentioned about it being on the wrong side of the road…
Do pay attention.
With the massive amount of
With the massive amount of advert tracking code this page is now completely unusable.
12Mb and 3 minutes to load so far. I have a 40Mb fibre connection so the delay is your end.
Bit puzzled with the audio on
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if chris boardman thinks
if chris boardman thinks following european zebra crossings is a good thing, come to france. No bugger stops, ever, despite it being the law.
Almost got run over in spain too taking the UK approach to Zebra crossings
ChancerOnABike wrote:
If you come back to Britain, you’ll find the same attitude is prevalent here, even when there are crossing lights!
ChancerOnABike wrote:
If you come back to Britain, you’ll find the same attitude is prevalent here, even when there are crossing lights!
janusz0 wrote:
No, that’s not true. Motorists here are pretty good at stopping at zebra crossings. Certainly much better than Spain, France and Italy anyway.
Probably fake. But surely
Probably fake. But surely whether it’s the ‘wrong’ side of the road depends on what country it is in?
Either way, who cares? Without any details it’s meaningless. If there’s a video it’s not there for me and I can’t be bothered to look for it.
But judging from the still image, I think the driver should be arrested for that horrible hair-cut and weird facial expression.