Live blog: Yob films himself braking so cyclist goes through rear windscreen; an innovative way to resolve this week’s helmet dispute + more
SUMMARY
Yob films himself braking so that cyclist goes through his rear windscreen
A video has been posted to Facebook of a driver slamming on his brakes so that a cyclist smashes through his rear windscreen. The footage was shot by the driver.
Several newspapers have reported on this, but it is not known when or where the footage was shot.
How to resolve the MIPS v WaveCel helmet dispute
This is easily solved by putting one person in a WaveCel helmet and one person in a MIPS helmet and having them charge at each other at full speed joust-style with heads bowed.https://t.co/bHC4dTRuY3
— Bike Snob NYC (@bikesnobnyc) March 21, 2019
References this.
Manchester to trial European-style zebra crossings at side roads
Another great slab of investment’s been announced in Manchester’s Beelines Network (more on that later). As well as a bunch of major construction projects, they’re going to trial European-style zebra crossings.
Transport for Greater Manchester has proposed an independent research project to investigate using European-style crossings at minor side road junctions to improve safety and enhance the experience for people travelling on foot or by bike.
Currently, zebra crossing-style markings are only permitted on UK roads where Belisha Beacons and zig zag markings are also in place and can cost around £30,000. If European-style crossings were to be permitted in the UK it would bring the cost per side road junction down to around £500.
Chris Boardman said: “The majority of European cities use zebra crossings at side roads to give a clear and simple message to drivers that they must give way to people travelling on foot. They are used in cities across the world and now we want to see if this approach can work in Greater Manchester.
“If it can, and with help from Department for Transport, it will enable us to quickly and cheaply ensure that people are much better protected on every-day journeys including trips to school, to the shops, to work.”
Proposals for a new Greater Manchester bike hire scheme
No real details yet, but a proposal to bring forward a Greater Manchester bike hire scheme will be considered by the Greater Manchester Combined Authority on March 29.
Further details will be announced in the Spring, apparently.
Next wave of Bee Network projects: £137m to be invested in 18 new cycling and walking schemes around Manchester
Oxford man jailed for using his dog 'as a weapon' against city centre cyclists
The road.cc ride out was fun as always!
And the rain even hold off… thanks for coming everyone!
CHPT3 unveils Milan-Sanremo inspired collection
David Millar’s design house CHPT3 has collaborated with long-term partner Castelli to produce a collection of cycling kit inspired by Milan-Sanremo, just prior to this year’s editions (it takes place tomorrow).
The MSR Jersey (£120) is made with a fabric previously exclusive to Castelli’s Maglia Rosa jersey, so it is a race weight, aerodynamic and high-wicking.
CHPT3 designers have softened the race jersey it is based on by including a touch of elastane and employing a less constrictive cut.
“The colours of the MSR Jersey reflect the muted, industrial portion of the race, inferring what’s to come with flashes of Mediterranean colour woven in,” says CHPT3. “Meanwhile, the rear pockets show the chevrons of the Turchino Pass – the turning point in the race.”
The MSR Base Layer (£70) is made from a lightweight mesh fabric originally chosen by Castelli to make a super-lightweight climber’s jersey for the Tour de France.
“MSR embodies so much of the madness inherent in our sport: a 300km race where everything happens in the final 30km,” says David Millar. “Racers will always split races into sections. MSR is two halves, the tunnel of the Turchino Pass is the spiritual halfway point. The moment we exit the tunnel we descend to the coast and enter a brave new world – one where we’re more at home.
“With the MSR collection, we’ve taken this racing mindstate of compartmentalising everything and created a beautiful design, splitting the race up by the visual impression it leaves.”
The MSR collection, which also includes a cycling cap (£25) and socks (£18), is available now from CHPT3.com and selected retailers.
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@Smoggysteve For me one of the plus points of cycling is in the particular: getting the local knowledge, finding the better route ... ... but I think most of the population are less inclined to "magical mystery tour" (with the possibility of the odd bad trip) and more "just getting from A to B safely". Even when just "out travelling". I haven't done much cycling round Lincolnshire and what I did was mostly about the south. I do know that even trying to get between neighbouring towns there - what a not-unfit person might contemplate as a "journey for transport" - could involve a Hobson's choice of thundering traffic or the poorly maintained alternatives (or going a very long way round). I don't think that's necessarily inevitable (see Dutch countryside and "just don't let the motor vehicles drive over everything"). But I suspect (for several reasons, but especially the "low population density" one) Lincolnshire will be among the last places any transport revolution reaches, if it ever does.
Campaign to make endangering a cyclist “as unacceptable as drink driving” I recently had my life threatened by a reckless/inattentive driver, and since I had a bar cam, I posted a still and an explanation on our local website. Whilst I did get some support, there were also some incredibly entitled drivers: 'the one idiot decided to start weaving back and forth across the road, almost collided with me yet I was over the white line in the other 'lane'..... yes, I did beep my horn at them and got told to F*ck Off for the privilege!!!' 'However, had he have collided with me/my car who was going to HAVE pay for the damage to my 26 plate car.....oh yeah that'll be me !!!' 'The public highway is not suitable. In 1826 it was. In 1926 perhaps it was. In 2026 I suggest it really isn’t.' '....cyclists will hold up a significant amount of traffic for quite some time to excercise their "rights" to be on the road whilst making people late for work/school/appointments etc just because its their "rights".' '...all because of 3 cyclists all riding "abreast"...' [I did ask for evidence, but didn't get any.] 'Im absolutely certain that we all get the message that ONLY you matter, ONLY your story is the truth.....' [sic] 'However, I do take issue with Entitled arrogant smarmy cyclists who think only their opinion matters, oh, or thinking about it, do I detect misogyny. [sic] 'My point remains - consideration is a two-way street, and the idiot policy makers who can’t see an issue with mixing 10-15mph traffic with 50+mph traffic are the main problem.' '..by the way, only one contributor in this thread has lowered to thinly veiled prejudices, borderline rudeness and absolute refusal to consider anyone else’s point of view.' All that because I posted about two drivers who put my life at risk and posted a picture of one of their cars. Motornormativity is so deeply embedded in our society that it is going to take generations to change things.
Thanks for all the marvellous entertainment Julien, even though it's always been coupled with irritation as one shouted at the screen "There's no N! It's not Alanphilippe!" as the commentators consistently got your name wrong. Somewhere in an alternative universe there wasn't a landslide on stage 19 of 2019, you caught back up with Bernal on the climb to Tignes, the next day wasn't shortened either and you clung on to the yellow jersey all the way to Paris. You deserved one just for the amount of excitement you generated that year and the peloton will be a duller place without you, plus Mrs H is going to have to find a new piece of eye candy now...
I don't always agree with Smoggysteve's opinions and he certainly can be blunt when articulating them but he is a long-term contributor to road.cc comments, he is quite clearly an enthusiastic cyclist and his opinions are genuine, not deliberately contrarian, so he is not in any way a troll. If you want to go troll hunting I can point you in the direction of a 24 carat example...
@rideANDdie People writing any comment on any social media platform should be taken with a pinch of salt, they could be from anyone, mostly rage baiting. I dont for a minute believe people suddenly get absolutely furious with vein popping anger at a cyclist in the road. words on a screen like that are written by the same cowards who try to act big but if they were confronted in the real world they balls would shrink up inside them. And as for trolling, I think youll find I am a regualr commentor on here , and I am a strong advocate for raod safety as many who have read my comments will know. So bore off with that one. My point still stands, the language used is inflammatory, and helps NOBODY, its adding to a problem that made out to be far worse than it is by the gutter press and social media. Adding to it just compounds the problem made by the ones who perpetuate the war on the roads,
So how would you describe the comments left on that post, friendly? What about the comments left on stories of people being knocked off their bike and killed saying "good they deserved it"? What about the many cases of drivists deliberately hitting people on bike? How would you discribe the coutless times I've had someone deliveratly swerve at me, sometimes from the on comming lane, while swearing and shouting, almost always when there was plenty of space to just go around, would you say they were calm while threatening the life of another human being for just exisiting? Just a bit of banter right? Maybe try actually riding on the roads before trolling a cycling website because there's no way a regular road cyclist hasn't had an encouter with an angry driver! The point you miss is bigots and idiots can't get away with blaming all their problems on people of different races, genders etc, one of the last groups it's socially acceptable to overtly hate is cyclists, so we thankfully don't have lynchings anymore what we have instead is people actually wanting to kill or see cyclists be killed and glorifying this behavour. We are just human beings going about our day in a healthy and environmentally friendly way that actually reduces congestion on the roads and half the population (it seems) litterally state outloud they want to see us dead for it and frequently treatern or try to hit us, or just don't care if they do... of course there's nothing angry about that!!!
Motorists should be allowed to drink and/or use drugs while driving at speed in residential areas; pedestrians and cyclists will have to learn how to jump out of the way and wear body armor to protect themselves.
I think in some cases irritation, which soon escalates to anger. Although some drivers may miss out the irritation stage. I agree that most motorists are considerate towards, cyclists. But just read some of the idiotic comments in the article. It is a minority to be concerned about.
Trying to distract attention away again from the fact that car drivers do most of the pedestrian killing and injuring, and cyclists kill and injure hardly anybody.
Of couse ultimately one of those German tunneling machines might have to be the answer, just under crawl, at cm per hour, the problem.
31 thoughts on “Live blog: Yob films himself braking so cyclist goes through rear windscreen; an innovative way to resolve this week’s helmet dispute + more”
Surely that’s causing injury
Surely that’s causing injury by careless (or something, FFS!) driving?? Clearly intentional.
(Admittedly, the chances of actually tracking it down…).
brooksby wrote:
Driver INTENTIONALLY applied the brakes, anyone sensible person would clearly see that as dangerous but unfortunately I doubt you’d get a jury of his peers (who will likely be drivers) would see it that way and just class it as careless 🙁
Was there a motor on the bike
Was there a motor on the bike? Seems like it.
Clearly using the phone
Clearly using the phone whilst driving and capturing a deliberate attempt to harm another road user – a prosecution should be a formality.
I could be wrong but kind of
I could be wrong but kind of looks fake to me.
The cyclist is on the path from the start and the driver knew he would join the road? The way he smashes into the rear window doesn’t look right and his reaction seems off, similar to other fake videos I’ve seen.
If it is somehow real then the driver should face no less than the death penatly
NorthEastJimmy wrote:
Actually you can clearly see him look over his shoulder as he pulls on to the road
Face clearly identifiable,
Face clearly identifiable, make of car can be determined aas a grey micra and the shape will give an age to it. Police should be able to narrow it down a bit to males in the right age range, and add in the accent they should be able to get pretty close to a region too.
I’d be surprised if this hadn’t been reported by the cyclist, unless it was a setup.
As has been mentioned looks
As has been mentioned looks like a motorcyclist of the e variety seeing as he’s not pedalling at all.
Yob films motorcyclist crash into car in fake attempt at viral video. That’s better.
The most surprising thing
The only surprising thing about this is this website’s use of the word “yob”. I thought that wasn’t allowed these days. Surely, in the modern parlance, he is a left-behind, with concerns about sharing the road with people he dislikes, which elites like us have failed to recognize. The local BBC radio station will probably get him on to provide ‘balance’ the next time they have a “Cyclists: nuisance or menace?” call-in.
Definitely something fishy
Definitely something fishy about that…
JohnnyRemo wrote:
Both on the wrongside of the road too.
If it’s fake:
If it’s fake:
– no seatbelt
– using a phone whilst driving
If it’s real:
– deliberately causing an accident (irrespective of whether bike has a motor)
– no seatbelt
– using a phone whilst driving
Likely police action:
If it’s fake: no action
If it’s real: caution the cyclist for not wearing a helmet, cycling on a pavement and / or cycling too close to a car and / or – the video doesn’t show a driver not wearing a seatbelt, using a phone whilst driving or causing an accident.
Several news papers carried
Several news papers carried this fake content so road.cc jumps on the bandwagon, come on Alex.
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Regardless of whether this is
Regardless of whether this is set up, unless it was a closed road (which I doubt), then surely there is still an offensive. Does using a car in an attempt to make a viral video class as dangerous or careless driving??
Trouble is, fake or not, and
Trouble is, fake or not, and I’m in the fake brigade, the dullards will see this and think I’ll try that, no one will get hurt.
Trouble is, fake or not, and
Trouble is, fake or not, and I’m in the fake brigade, the dullards will see this and think I’ll try that, no one will get hurt.
If its real they can’t
If its real they can’t convict him for deliberately causing the accident because you can’t see the front, so we don’t know that a kid didn’t run out onto the road or whatever.
Kadinkski wrote:
How would the drive rhave known? He wasn’t paying any attention to what was happening in front of him.
If this is a fake, then he’s just paid for it with a smashed rear window, so serves him right. If not fake, then I’m sure the full force of the law will come down on him (yeah, right).
Kendalred wrote:
Even it is fake, and all pre-arranged, then isn’t “pi$$ing around on the road, braking unnecessarily so as to cause a hazard to other road users, and breaking glass everywhere” all still covered by some law or other?
As always bikesnobnyc gets to
As always bikesnobnyc gets to the real heart of the matter.
Was it down-hill? (explains
Was it down-hill? (explains speed and no pedalling).
Cyclist was going at speed on a pavement.
I thought cyclists were
I thought cyclists were clever, looks like I’m mistaken and I retain my title as an elite being. Fake or not, what you’ve all failed to spot is that the video is flipped, the car is driving on the wrong side of the road, therefore it’s the passenger filming, not the driver. Still doesn’t excuse idiotic and dangerous behaviour.
Lucero79 wrote:
I already mentioned about it being on the wrong side of the road…
Do pay attention.
With the massive amount of
With the massive amount of advert tracking code this page is now completely unusable.
12Mb and 3 minutes to load so far. I have a 40Mb fibre connection so the delay is your end.
Bit puzzled with the audio on
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if chris boardman thinks
if chris boardman thinks following european zebra crossings is a good thing, come to france. No bugger stops, ever, despite it being the law.
Almost got run over in spain too taking the UK approach to Zebra crossings
ChancerOnABike wrote:
If you come back to Britain, you’ll find the same attitude is prevalent here, even when there are crossing lights!
ChancerOnABike wrote:
If you come back to Britain, you’ll find the same attitude is prevalent here, even when there are crossing lights!
janusz0 wrote:
No, that’s not true. Motorists here are pretty good at stopping at zebra crossings. Certainly much better than Spain, France and Italy anyway.
Probably fake. But surely
Probably fake. But surely whether it’s the ‘wrong’ side of the road depends on what country it is in?
Either way, who cares? Without any details it’s meaningless. If there’s a video it’s not there for me and I can’t be bothered to look for it.
But judging from the still image, I think the driver should be arrested for that horrible hair-cut and weird facial expression.