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Live blog: Laura Kenny advocates ‘the Addison Lean’; Hinault urges riders to strike if Froome races the Tour (and Team Sky’s response); shocking driving from Dublin bus + more
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Thu, Jun 21, 2018 14:02
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Rendel Harris 52 seconds ago
@slc Just read that comment to Mrs H, worryingly she looked thoughtful and said, "Mmm...how nice a bike are we talking here?"
Rendel Harris 4 minutes ago
@DrG82 The implementation costs were £32M and there has been an additional £3M spent on adjustments. It's estimated that the savings to the NHS and other bodies in terms of fewer casualties with which to deal come to around £44M. Odd economics where a £9M net saving is a waste of money.
Mark Thompson 3 hours ago
@DrG82 is a liar. First off, who here said they got everything right? "I wouldn’t say that the Welsh government got everything right." The article contains commentary saying they didn't get everything right. I suppose saying something obviously true sets you up to lie later... "They applied the speed limit changes uniformly, without considering exceptions" You are a liar. The Welsh Government guidance contained rules that would allow councils to exempt roads from 20mph. As an example, much of my route into town stayed at 30 and 40mph because my council bothered to apply the exemptions. I particularly enjoyed your unsupported claim of "This has been a massive waste of money". The article states "collisions involving all road users on 20mph and 30mph are down 37 per cent, with casualties dropping by 35 per cent". I'd say a one-off cost of changing road signs for a permanent 1/3rd reduction in collisions is gonna save the taxpayer a chunk of healthcare costs and owners and businesses a chunk of money not fixing car bodywork. Nothing but contempt for you. Take your lies elsewhere.
Oldblokey 8 hours ago
With so many people using and looking at mobie phones whilst driving and other distractions, may I suggest you always wear Hi viz and stay at home.
kil0ran 8 hours ago
The design of the "car" has played a role in this. SUVs and what the Americans call "trucks" are exempt from the pedestrian safety regulations which apply to passenger cars. Had the victim been hit by a car designed in the past twenty years he would have been "scooped" onto the bonnet and either over the roof or off to one side. Still a serious injury risk and potentially fatal but they have the benefit of those passive safety systems to improve their chances. With vehicles with such a high bonnet line as this Volvo has what tends to happen is the person bounces off the bonnet and falls on the road in front of the vehicle where they're then run over. This has happened time and time again and is becoming more of an issue as the numbers of vehicles exempt from the safety standards grows.
whosatthewheel 10 hours ago
@Accessibility for all Reducing the speeds wouldn't have helped in this case as the driver was reported doing 65 in a 40 zone on the approach to the junction, his driving described by the witnesses as erratic and evidently had no intention to stop to give way even though he had been warned by the passenger who apparently shouted "bike" three times just before the collision. He would have likely flown through that junction even if it was traffic light controlled with a red light for him at the time. In my own experience the entire area i.e. east of Lymm towards Warburton and along Dunham Road all the way up to Altrincham and past into Hale Barns, all those wealthy, posh settlements around Manchester Airport are best avoided by road cyclists. A disproportionally high number of psycho drivers must for some reason live in that area because every single time I went there on my road bike in the past, I either got harassed myself or witnessed proper dickhead driving - speeding, close passes, overtaking into oncoming traffic or round a blind bend, accelerating towards pedestrians already crossing the road, you name it. I gave up road cycling in that area years ago and only use the local TPT these days.
Hollis Jones 10 hours ago
In respect of the murder charge: based on him hitting Mr Mullins and making no attempt to help him (this killing him), how would the case compare to a hit and run driver who seriously injures or kills a cyclist, knowingly, and flees the scene without helping? Would this make the cut for a murder charge? Or is there something very different going on here that I’m missing? Genuinely curious because I don’t recall there being a murder charge before for this kind of thing unless it was premeditated. In fact, in my experience most cases like this seem to go the opposite way - where the driver can merely say the sun was in their eyes and get away with a slap on the hands.
jaymack 11 hours ago
@Rendel Harris...and there was me dishing out the praise!
whosatthewheel 11 hours ago
@polainm He must also be an already hardened criminal. It wasn't mentioned during the court proceedings to avoid influencing the jurors and ensuring he had a fair trial, but he had been released from prison shortly before this incident and was couch surfing at his cousin's house days before. Just look at his face, he's only 35, but looks older than his victim who was 56. Must have spent half his adult life in prison.
Rendel Harris 11 hours ago
@jaymack They did offer him manslaughter though but he declined to plead guilty. Without wanting to seem curmudgeonly, yes great that they preferred the most serious charges but hard to see how they could have done differently considering that Richardson got out of the car, saw Mr Mullins was stuck underneath and then got back in and carried on. That clearly moved it above anything that falls under death by dangerous driving.
22 thoughts on “Live blog: Laura Kenny advocates ‘the Addison Lean’; Hinault urges riders to strike if Froome races the Tour (and Team Sky’s response); shocking driving from Dublin bus + more”
Only if you admit to doping
Only if you admit to doping when you refused to take a dope test after your tour win.
Hinault head of the desperate Roman Bardet for GC campaign, as it’s the only he’s going to beat Froome, or unless Froome has an unfortunate mishap.
My money is on the Badger, he
My money is on the Badger, he’d take Froome in a fight
Bernard Hinault: Cycling
Bernard Hinault: Cycling legend, and a bit of a nob.
Hinault can see his position
Hinault can see his position as one of the elite 5 time winners being diluted so he is trying to undermine Froome who is perfectly entitled to be riding. It is the UCI that he should be having a go at, not someone racing who is perfectly entitled to be doing so. Nice comment by Christopher.
Hinault, yawn, such 1980s
Hinault, yawn, such 1980s mentality.
check12 wrote:
Strikes never went out of popularity in France.
Old Bernard really is being a
Old Bernard really is being a bit of a prick. I’m not condoning or defending Froome and Team Sky’s alleged misdemeanours, but the fact is that all this shouldn’t even be in the public realm at this stage. If the adverse finding hadn’t been ‘leaked’ then this would all be happening behind closed doors where Froome would (or at least should) be getting a fair hearing, and like other riders should be free to race until convicted/banned/acquitted or whatever the outcome may be. As already said above, if anyone should be feeling the wrath of Bernie, it should be the UCI for being lax with their data security in the first place, apparently relying on a rather sub-standard and questionable test for Salbutamol and subsequently handing the whole situation rather poorly.
The Sky fan boys are out in
The Sky fan boys are out in force today
It’s so sad when one of your
It’s so sad when one of your heros turns out to be a prick.
But so good to see East Dumbarton Police getting a right royal shafting on twitter for their absurd, victim blaming campaign.
burtthebike wrote:
Why is he (Hinault) a prick? He has an opinion like everyone else and is entitled to air it, doesn’t make him a prick though.
don simon wrote:
Aah Don, you seem to be unaware the man is a foreigner. From abroad. Over there.
mike the bike wrote:
Aah Don, you seem to be unaware the man is a foreigner. From abroad. Over there.— don simon
I’m sure that’s true, but I expect burtthebike can give their own explanation, it’d be a pretty stupid thing to say otherwise.
I think The Badger is taking
I think The Badger is taking a leaf out of the 1966 Monte Carlo rally rule book and planning to disqualify everyone until he gets to the token Frenchman, who will then be crowned the victor. He was one of the all-time greats of cycling, but he was always a proper tool.
A frenchman calling for
A frenchman calling for strikes. Whatever next.
Yorkshire wallet wrote:
Although he was also famous for punching those strikers who got in [i]his[/i] way.
Team Sky may be partially
Team Sky may be partially correct about Hinault. His call for a boycott probably isn’t based on a full knowledge of every detail of the Froome case. But then I suspect they’d respond in the same way to anyone who hasn’t read all 1500 pages of “evidence” which they’ve submitted to delay and obfuscate the case.
handlebarcam wrote:
Remember, it’s not Team SKY’s fault that they are dragging out the case and not supplying information, it’s 100% fault of the UCI.
What a relief with some
What a relief with some straight talk. There is no smoke without a fire. These things should be settled quickly with no options for appeal and not with this stupid system where things are decided in court rooms.
*sigh..
*sigh..
25mph on the pavement?
25mph on the pavement? Pathetic!
At the public meeting to consider the chicanes put in by the local authority on the Bristol-Bath cycle path, after they’d put them in, one person claimed that the cyclists were doing 60mph. It did get quite a big laugh.
Meaningless statistic of the
Meaningless statistic of the day:
“Research commissioned by Addison Lee following incidents involving its drivers and cycle couriers found that 65 per cent of cyclists have been involved in a car-dooring incident or know someone who has.”
Did they also reveal that 100% of the population is female? Or know somebody who is female?
That Dublin bus driver was a
That Dublin bus driver was a bit incompetent, eh?
I think bus drivers should be trained to look ahead and see if anyone is waiting at a stop, so they don’t do stupid and dangerous last-minute manoeuvres like that one! Oh, wait…