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Live blog: Laura Kenny advocates ‘the Addison Lean’; Hinault urges riders to strike if Froome races the Tour (and Team Sky’s response); shocking driving from Dublin bus + more
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Thu, Jun 21, 2018 14:02
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chrisonabike 30 seconds ago
@Mr Blackbird isn't it "this pub survived two World Wars, but will be destroyed by this ludicrous, dangerous cycle lane, which nobody wants and which will only be used by illegal immigrants riding unlicensed electric motorbikes..." ?
Mr Blackbird 6 minutes ago
@Mr Blackbird The report on this case is on page 19 of today's Times. Maybe the more right wing rags didn't bother at all? It was on the BBC News website yesterday, but was not featured on this morning's Breakfast News.
chrisonabike 8 minutes ago
@Rendel Harris no no NO! Won't you think of blind pedestrians, who will be in danger of falling in, then being run over by the peloton, then drowning?! Not to mention people with limited mobility who might stumble in and then not be able to get out? Or just those walking around in a relaxed manner, not paying too much attention? No, what is needed is a dedicated area to support accessibility for all. We could call it a ... road! Those with sight impairment would doubtless be ok with that as they would be able to hear the motor vehicles (unlike those deadly silent cyclists). And they could get taxis also. In fact all those who *have to drive* could use it! Cyclists would have nothing to complain about, they could ride there if they don't get in the way of motor vehicles and come to a compete stop whenever they see a pedestrian looking like they might cross...
Rendel Harris 29 minutes ago
@HoarseMann I've probably given this too much thought, but alongside each of the bridges I was going to have little in and out ramps to allow cyclists to exit for the shops rather than be confined to a straight-through run.
Mr Blackbird 53 minutes ago
@kingleo Just picture a lovely character pub with all the original internal features. Baskets of flowers hanging outside. It serves an excellent selection of real ales, craft ales, quality lagers and quality ciders. Todays menu includes a ploughman's lunch, seafood platter and a vast range of sandwich fillings ; all made using locally sourced foods. But wait! A new cycle lane has just been constructed in front of the pub. It is far too dangerous to cross and enter the pub. You turn around and trudge home. Stopping at Tesco to buy a 4 pack of Carling.
chrisonabike 1 hour ago
@Hollis Jones as Rendel said, the key difference here is there were two strong pieces of evidence distinguishing this from "we all *know* they were aware of the cyclist", one of them a human witness. Outside that it's simply "but the prosecution cannot prove they didn't notice..." and legally that must fail. Like a "he said, she said" but where one of the sides is absent, because they're dead.
leedorney 1 hour ago
Having experienced this in Anglesey and most of it is unnecessary, it does give the driver a big lesson in 'looking extra', as travelling slower does that !
leedorney 1 hour ago
It's true, you aren't feeling yourself any favours wearing black/dark colours, BUT you've got to look, soo many dont and the campaign should be for motorist - look, simple as, it's not hard and drop the speed to, maybe if the police where actually outside rather than on Facebook looking for the naughty words/viewpoints, drivers would be caught speeding, not looking, pulling out, not braking in time, going through red lights, overtaking at a bad time, cutting up cyclists and a lot more..
wtjs 1 hour ago
@Rome73 There are still too many motor vehicles in the central Oxford Street area. There should be zero, except for delivery vehicles at proscribed... prescribed times
Rendel Harris 1 hour ago
@Hollis Jones The crucial difference is the fact that Richardson stopped, exited the vehicle, tried to pull Mr Mullins free and when he couldn't got back in and drove on. He knowingly, actively and voluntarily engaged in the harmful behaviour that caused Mr Mullins' death, which is what made it murder. The hit and run driver hasn't deliberately hit a cyclist and although driving away is of course utterly reprehensible it's only covered by the laws regarding failing to stop at the scene of an accident, which only attracts a six month prison sentence maximum. It's high time the law was changed so that firstly the penalties for failing to stop and render assistance are far higher and secondly so that if the medical evidence is that the victim would have survived with prompt assistance then the driver can be charged with manslaughter or murder. However as it stands murder requires evidence of malice aforethought with an intention to kill or to cause GBH resulting in death. Richardson clearly displayed this by resuming driving even though he knew Mr Mullins was stuck under his car; the hit and run driver in an "accident" didn't have that intention so can't be charged with murder however atrocious their behaviour after the event.
22 thoughts on “Live blog: Laura Kenny advocates ‘the Addison Lean’; Hinault urges riders to strike if Froome races the Tour (and Team Sky’s response); shocking driving from Dublin bus + more”
Only if you admit to doping
Only if you admit to doping when you refused to take a dope test after your tour win.
Hinault head of the desperate Roman Bardet for GC campaign, as it’s the only he’s going to beat Froome, or unless Froome has an unfortunate mishap.
My money is on the Badger, he
My money is on the Badger, he’d take Froome in a fight
Bernard Hinault: Cycling
Bernard Hinault: Cycling legend, and a bit of a nob.
Hinault can see his position
Hinault can see his position as one of the elite 5 time winners being diluted so he is trying to undermine Froome who is perfectly entitled to be riding. It is the UCI that he should be having a go at, not someone racing who is perfectly entitled to be doing so. Nice comment by Christopher.
Hinault, yawn, such 1980s
Hinault, yawn, such 1980s mentality.
check12 wrote:
Strikes never went out of popularity in France.
Old Bernard really is being a
Old Bernard really is being a bit of a prick. I’m not condoning or defending Froome and Team Sky’s alleged misdemeanours, but the fact is that all this shouldn’t even be in the public realm at this stage. If the adverse finding hadn’t been ‘leaked’ then this would all be happening behind closed doors where Froome would (or at least should) be getting a fair hearing, and like other riders should be free to race until convicted/banned/acquitted or whatever the outcome may be. As already said above, if anyone should be feeling the wrath of Bernie, it should be the UCI for being lax with their data security in the first place, apparently relying on a rather sub-standard and questionable test for Salbutamol and subsequently handing the whole situation rather poorly.
The Sky fan boys are out in
The Sky fan boys are out in force today
It’s so sad when one of your
It’s so sad when one of your heros turns out to be a prick.
But so good to see East Dumbarton Police getting a right royal shafting on twitter for their absurd, victim blaming campaign.
burtthebike wrote:
Why is he (Hinault) a prick? He has an opinion like everyone else and is entitled to air it, doesn’t make him a prick though.
don simon wrote:
Aah Don, you seem to be unaware the man is a foreigner. From abroad. Over there.
mike the bike wrote:
Aah Don, you seem to be unaware the man is a foreigner. From abroad. Over there.— don simon
I’m sure that’s true, but I expect burtthebike can give their own explanation, it’d be a pretty stupid thing to say otherwise.
I think The Badger is taking
I think The Badger is taking a leaf out of the 1966 Monte Carlo rally rule book and planning to disqualify everyone until he gets to the token Frenchman, who will then be crowned the victor. He was one of the all-time greats of cycling, but he was always a proper tool.
A frenchman calling for
A frenchman calling for strikes. Whatever next.
Yorkshire wallet wrote:
Although he was also famous for punching those strikers who got in [i]his[/i] way.
Team Sky may be partially
Team Sky may be partially correct about Hinault. His call for a boycott probably isn’t based on a full knowledge of every detail of the Froome case. But then I suspect they’d respond in the same way to anyone who hasn’t read all 1500 pages of “evidence” which they’ve submitted to delay and obfuscate the case.
handlebarcam wrote:
Remember, it’s not Team SKY’s fault that they are dragging out the case and not supplying information, it’s 100% fault of the UCI.
What a relief with some
What a relief with some straight talk. There is no smoke without a fire. These things should be settled quickly with no options for appeal and not with this stupid system where things are decided in court rooms.
*sigh..
*sigh..
25mph on the pavement?
25mph on the pavement? Pathetic!
At the public meeting to consider the chicanes put in by the local authority on the Bristol-Bath cycle path, after they’d put them in, one person claimed that the cyclists were doing 60mph. It did get quite a big laugh.
Meaningless statistic of the
Meaningless statistic of the day:
“Research commissioned by Addison Lee following incidents involving its drivers and cycle couriers found that 65 per cent of cyclists have been involved in a car-dooring incident or know someone who has.”
Did they also reveal that 100% of the population is female? Or know somebody who is female?
That Dublin bus driver was a
That Dublin bus driver was a bit incompetent, eh?
I think bus drivers should be trained to look ahead and see if anyone is waiting at a stop, so they don’t do stupid and dangerous last-minute manoeuvres like that one! Oh, wait…