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I drove past this just after
I drove past this just after it had happened. Quite a sight!
(seems like amazingly the driver was ok though)
Image from the dashcam…
…we will take no further action. The driver will be spoken to and he will be given a warning with words of advice and guidance.Err, isn’t that further action (albeit of the lowest order)?
They were really tying themselves up in knots trying to excuse the driver in this case. I suspect because the driver was behind me for about a minute.
I only drive down there at 15mph as it’s narrow and there are parked cars – so a bit of a stretch the police saying ‘regardless of them being held up’. It’s almost like there’s a certain amount of time after which a driver can say ‘f*uk it, I’m going for it’, and that’s acceptable.
The ‘contradictory’ part of my statement, was simply my explanation of what happened – particularly, what cannot be seen on the rear view camera, such as the oncoming driver having to perform an emergency stop coming to a complete halt, whilst sounding the horn as I swerved to the left kerb to avoid being side-swiped – oh, and the _fact_ it was on a bend!
I do hope TLO gets some sense out his MP and PCC office. Although I suspect the old ‘can’t get involved in a specific case’ excuse will be readily deployed.
This is really of no help,
This is really of no help, but just some solidarity with the absurdity of the police sometimes…
After careful consideration of the available evidence and surrounding circumstances it has been decided that the driver will receive words of advice and guidance.
Having watched your dashcam footage and read your report we found that your statement was inconsistent with the footage and therefore could not be relied on in court. You stated the vehicle overtook you on a bend, the footage show otherwise. And as far as we can see on your footage nobody was inconvenienced. We see the car followed you for a great distance and was respectful and held back and simply followed in the narrow streets and only over took when on a wider road.
Your footage was from a rear mounted camera and your claim he overtook on a bend with oncoming traffic and you had to swerve to avoid a collision was not evidenced.
In the early part of your video it shows the car following you. Considering the road conditions (Parked cars on narrow residential street) the driver was considerate and gave as much room as he deemed safe to do so. This wasn’t a pass at excess speed however was very close to the back of you regardless of the length of time he followed you and was held up.
You have clearly shown in your footage that this did result in a close pass, but considering the clear inaccuracies we will take no further action. The driver will be spoken to and he will be given a warning with words of advice and guidance.
I’m sure you are right. I’ve
I’m sure you are right. I’ve had some surprisingly differing responses from the police. Some police officers have been very professional and these submissions led to prosecutions or driving courses. Others have questioned my evidence and even, unbelieveably, insinuated that I was lying by saying the driver overtook me on a bend, as it doesn’t look like a bend! (last time I looked at a map it was a bend!). Then there was the case where I had to report it to the IOPC for them to take it further.
So, I’ve got a really healthy scepticism of the police. Wouldn’t trust them at all to do the right thing.
This does indeed sound like
This does indeed sound like an abuse of power from the police. They’re really going all-in with what seems to be a very bad hand. Quite possibly a couple of officers who have a dislike of cyclists in general, yourself specifically or both.
As others have said, get some legal advice. If you end up with a cyclist-hating magistrate presiding over the case, you might be in trouble. It’s far easier to get the case thrown out due to a fault in the process (if one exists), than hope for sense to prevail.
I can imagine (and as you say) this is very costly, time consuming and stressful. Stick in there. In the grand scheme of things even the worst case outcome will not be _that_ bad.
There’s a lot of support for you here and I can certainly empathise with the way you conducted yourself during the incident when faced with such a threat – particularly when it’s a culmination of similar incidents.
Yep, that’s appalling. I had
Yep, that’s appalling. I had something similar involving a bus – no action taken by Thames Valley Police.
I’m not sure what more can be done. Clearly she’s lying when she “insisted she was taking the driving ban seriously”. Maybe confiscate her vehicle (a Nissan Qashqai, I note)?She has a bus stop outside her house! Sure, it might be quicker by car to get to Swindon for your shopping trip, but it’s not like it’s impossible for her to manage without a car…
Woman gets fine for illegally
Woman gets fine for illegally parking on Winnats Pass and will never return to park there after ordeal (umm, that’s how parking fines are supposed to work?!):
and what does he mean by
and what does he mean by ‘people don’t know the rules and don’t reverse out of the way if you are on a hill’.
I’m not really sure that is a ‘thing’. I think he’s conflating two specific points:
1. Generally, you should reverse if it makes sense for you to do so – i.e. you’ve just gone past a good passing place and it would be easier for you to reverse back than the other driver.
2. Generally, if you are coming downhill, it’s better for you to give way to the vehicle coming uphill if possible – saves on burning out their clutch trying to get going again.
Perhaps he thinks that means if you’re coming uphill you have ‘priority’, which really isn’t the case as far as I can see…
Rule 155
Single-track roads. These are only wide enough for one vehicle. They may have special passing places. If you see a vehicle coming towards you, or the driver behind wants to overtake, pull into a passing place on your left, or wait opposite a passing place on your right. Give way to road users coming uphill whenever you can. If necessary, reverse until you reach a passing place to let the other vehicle pass. Slow down when passing pedestrians, cyclists and horse riders.
Well, I’ve watched the video
Well, I’ve watched the video and I didn’t see anyone in it who would likely to be offended.
I think that video is your evidence that this charge cannot stick:
[the appeal court] found that the words did amount to abusive or insulting words or behaviour. Having decided that the words spoken were potentially abusive, the court went on to state that there must also be proof that the words were spoken within the hearing of a person likely to be caused harassment, alarm or distress by them. There was no evidence of that here and the conviction was therefore quashed.
Evidence must always be adduced that the person who was within hearing of the words was likely to have been harassed, alarmed or distressed. It cannot be inferred.
“You have to cross a footpath
“You have to cross a footpath, then you get into the cycle lane, and because the road is so busy you have to take a sharp turn not to hit oncoming traffic,” said Alice Reeve.
yes Alice, it’s called “driving carefully”.
Lots of snow and ice on the
Lots of snow and ice on the roads today – make sure you’ve got the right vehicle for the job if heading out…
At some point left-turns were
At some point left-turns were prohibited at this junction. I suspect the short section of shared pavement is to allow cycles to continue to turn left.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/qc6MQYVdsvxbLBsZ9
Not quite the same scenario,
Not quite the same scenario, but has some similarities…
(DM – sorry)
Driver injured after car
Driver injured after car flips onto its roof
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy0g9rpp8x9o
