A parish council in Cheshire that put up a sign urging cyclists to stay away to avoid spreading coronavirus has taken it down after reading the comments about it on an article published here on road.cc yesterday (Saturday).
In an email sent to road.cc, Little Bollington Parish Council said:
We have read the comments on road.cc website and accept that we got it wrong. The signs in Little Bollington have now been removed. We as a community welcome anyone who wishes to visit or pass through our village. We would ask that everyone ensures they respect social distancing. We want everyone to be safe during these difficult times, villagers and visitors alike.
This article was updated at 2220 hours on 19 April 2020. The original article, published at 1527 hours on 18 April 2020, appears in full below. More on this on our live blog tomorrow.
A parish council in Cheshire has put up signs instructing cyclists to “stay in your local area” because of the coronavirus. Fully embracing misinformation, the sign then states that “infringements will be prosecuted.”
We’ve had any number of reports of overzealous community policing of cyclists in recent weeks. The latest comes from Little Bollington near Dunham Massey in Cheshire.
A road.cc reader told us they’d had a chat with the folks putting up the sign, telling them they were driving a wedge between people and that none of what is on the sign is enforceable.
“They were very angry about being challenged,” they said.
Current lockdown guidelines are that you can exercise outside. So long as you ride alone or with members of your household, cycling is very much permitted.
With regards to staying local, it’s worth pointing out that Crown Prosecution Service guidance states that it is lawful to drive somewhere to go for a walk, just so long as you spend longer exercising than driving.
Being as cycling is a form of exercise as well as a form of travel, you’re surely on even safer ground.
Here’s our guide for how to be a responsible cyclist during the coronavirus pandemic.
There have been similar reports from up and down the country. (Our favourite sign is still the “Cyclists, stop panting viruses through our village” one from earlier in the week.)
The BBC reports that some residents of Bradwell in the Hope Valley are taking issue with people riding there from Sheffield, arguing they “pose a threat” to residents.
Iain Greenhalgh said: “We’re living out in the Peak District, and the thing that’s become apparent in this lockdown is all the groups that use it – hill walkers, trail riders, rock climbers – have stopped.
“But cyclists aren’t compromising what they’re doing for the health of everyone else. If you appear in the villages of the Hope Valley wearing a Sheffield cycling club shirt, you’ve travelled 12 miles to get here.”
He added: “People travelling in from [Sheffield], with one of the highest infection rates in the country, to a rural area, poses a threat.”
Responding to the comments, a spokesperson from Sheffield-based Sharrow Cycling Club said the Hope Valley was “local to our members” and that riders were “complying entirely with government guidelines on social distancing” and not riding in groups.
“We just believe many people are using the lockdown as an excuse to air their long-held grievances against cyclists, which in our case we believe to be unwarranted and unfair.”
How far should cyclists ride?
Cycling UK’s head of campaigns, Duncan Dollimore, said: “Working out how long we can exercise for is something of a balancing act, and we all need to strike that balance depending on the context. We should ask ourselves what is reasonable, based on where we live, where we’re seeking to exercise, how many people are likely to be there, and what time of day we are venturing outside.
“On the one hand, we are all being encouraged to go out once a day for some exercise, for the good of our physical and mental health and well-being. On the other, we are being urged to avoid unnecessary proximity to or contact with other people. We all need to use good judgement in how to get exercise in ways that minimise unnecessary travel, crowds and possible pressures on the emergency services. Think about what’s reasonable.
“Cycling UK advice is to go out for long enough to keep yourself in good shape physically and emotionally but avoid doing more than this. Use common sense when planning your route. If you have a mechanical mishap that you can’t fix yourself and you’re miles from home, you may struggle to get back without asking someone else to undertake an additional journey that could have been avoided if you’d planned a circular route close to home.”




















120 thoughts on “Updated: Parish council in Cheshire takes down sign telling cyclists to stay away after reading road.cc readers’ comments”
Grrr, just posted the BBC
Grrr, just posted the BBC story on another thread.
I wonder when they will start noticing those (wonderful) driving folk might be travelling slightly further, and with their windows open.
Little Bollington is one of
Little Bollington is one of the main routes north to south, because of a tiny little footbridge near the Swan with Two Nicks pub. The alternatives are Bowden Road, which leads to a massive roundabout and which is a horrid road for walking and cycling (in fact there are no pavements), or Mill Lane through Heatley, which is ok but a long way out of the way.
There isn’t really a “village” – it’s just a random collection of houses, a school, a church and a pub. That’s it. There’s another pub which has been shut for years, so that shows how popular the area is.
Whichever twat put this sign up can fuck off. I’ll cycle through there as often as I like and there’s fuck all he can do about it.
Another place to go for a
Another place to go for a group ride when this is over!
Cyclists travel 12 miles. 12 miles ! They make it sound as though it is a world record attempt.
Oh this place isn’t far from
Oh this place isn’t far from me…. hmm.
That sounds like some sort of
That sounds like some sort of confession !
Me either – in fact, I ride
Me either – in fact, I ride through it reasonably often, and past it very often. Might just make sure I ride through it every time I go out…
Breathe heavy.
Breathe heavy.
ktache wrote:
And wear a top that says, London, or Birmingham; you know, something local so the villagers will appreciate your visit appropriately. And if any of them approach you threateningly, start coughing.
I know you’re being flippant
I know you’re being flippant but its one reason I never wear club kit outside of racing. Generic stuff like Rapha and Endura.
A description of “it was a rider in a top with a pink stripe” – well that’s half the cyclists in Cheshire!
I’ve got my London Cycling
I’ve got my London Cycling Campaign top I can wear….
And as an old fat bloke, I tend to gasp for breath on even the shallowest of “hills” so they should really welcome me…
Or wear virus filled pants!
Or wear virus filled pants!
It’s pretty near to me too.
It’s pretty near to me too. My standard route for a quick (roughly 1 hour) blast on a sunday morning goes through there. In fact my last outdoor ride (excluding essential shopping trips) went through it.
Since the lockdown, my exercise has been in Watopia, but I’m suddenly (after reading this) feeling the urge to do some IRL riding tomorrow morningand of course will be following my usual route through Little Bollington.
I took a KOM that started
I took a KOM that started there last week. Pretty sure I did some heavy breathing on that – the good citizens of Little Bollington and Dunham Massey are clearly doomed. DOOMED I TELL THEE!
Zebulebu wrote:
You are Private Fraser and ICMFP.
DOOOOOMED
DOOOOOMED
Not sure I see the problem.
Not sure I see the problem. If Little Bollington is within cycling distance from where you live then it is, by definition of the current regulations, local. If you drive 100 miles for a 5 minute cycle around the village then the residents are somewhat justified in being a tad miffed.
Though one does wonder under what interpretation of essential reasons to leave home some of them went outside to put up irrelevant posters around the village.
Well it isn’t a home made
Well it isn’t a home made sign, so someone has had to order the sign from a signmakers, and possibly take an unneccesary journey to collect said sign.
Looks like it was done in MS
Looks like it was done in MS Word or a DTP app and printed on an inkjet.
Its printed on the corrugated
Its printed on the corrugated plastic that is typically used for waymarkers on sportives etc. so unlikely to have been printed on a home inkjet.
Ian Greenhalgh (self
Ian Greenhalgh (self-appointed Sheriff of Bradwell), quoted above, and judging by the shit on his FB account, is a particular type of little Englander that we’d do well to keep annoying.
Hmm, not very good public
Hmm, not very good public relations to slag off potential customers who may be cyclists from Sheffield, when your busiess is based there I presume the 12 mile journey is OK for him to make http://www.agentpr.co.uk/
Seems to be a person is bored
Seems to be a person is bored at home during lockdown and not able to grind on about Brexit, so has the next item on a Gammons list to foam at the mouth about. He seem to have a sidekick who advocates going “Buffalo Bill” against cyclists. Does that involve firearms?
Popping them in a pit and
Popping them in a pit and skinning them perhaps?
Somebody needs to stick an ‘A
Somebody needs to stick an ‘A’ over the ‘S’ in Parish.
“Derbyshire Police said
“Derbyshire Police said cycling was a permitted form of exercise but cyclists should “use good judgement”. (BBC)
Do they mean, “defer to bigotry”?
In these lockdown days, with
In these lockdown days, with so few constructive jobs, it can only be assumed that Little Bollington Parish council have given up taking turns being the village idiot and decided to all do the job at once. Is the collective noun for a group of idiots a “Little Bollington”.
Incredibly, they got the no cycling sign right, but I am wondering why they put the camera sign on the poster; will they be tracing the cyclists from the registration numbers? I’m sure some of the local clubs could organise a ride through the village, maintaining the correct distance of course.
With a name like that, I was initially sceptical of the story, but it exists!
I think I prefer the
I think I prefer the simplicity of this sign.
Where’s that?
Where’s that?
I don’t know – I suspect it
I don’t know – I suspect it was knocked up in Paint.
I found it in the story on coveney village in this Twitter story.
https://mobile.twitter.com/gsholling/status/1249659263695433728
That’s Kenmare in Kerry. Many
That’s Kenmare in Kerry. Many Irish Cyclists will know that sight as it’s the end of the Ring of Beara ride
herlihy wrote:
Thought it looked like Ireland, but shouldn’t the sign read FECK OFF? 😉
herlihy wrote:
double post. where’s the delete option?
“Social distancing enforced”
“Social distancing enforced”
How, exactly? LOL
“Fur the greater good!”
For anyone in the Manchester
For anyone in the Manchester area, there’s a lovely scenic route along the Bridgewater canal. Come off at the Dunham Massey town hall, turn left down School Lane , and head south past Dunham Massey park, and left onto Lymm Road into Little Bollington.
That’s my Sunday exercise sorted 😀
I wonder how many of the
I wonder how many of the people putting up these signs consider the impact on their community if, after the lock down is lifted, outsiders decide to follow their advice and stay away?
You have to laugh at the 2 m seperation in the red circle
Hadn’t noticed that. Does
Hadn’t noticed that. Does that mean that 2m separation is prohibited?
Grrnnn my head hurts
One could always ask them to
One could always ask them to explain…
clerk@littlebollington.org
Dont hold your breath look at
Dont hold your breath look at their meeting schedule https://www.littlebollington.org/the-parish-meeting/
Irony alert have you seen
Irony alert have you seen teh Chairman’s website ? https://www.swanwithtwonicks.co.uk/
langsett wrote:
Looks like an interesting pub, but I’m not sure I could afford the prices, and I’m not sure they welcome zombies or cyclists.
It’s a typical up it’s own
It’s a typical up it’s own arse country pub – with it’s own brown sign and everyfink!
It’s at the end of a road that amounts to little more than a dirt track, and hundreds of 4x4s go tooling down there at high speeds when the pub is open. Pretty sure the locals don’t have any objections to that, nor to the dozens of people I’ve seen walking round there after crossing over the narrow footbridge from Dunham Massey.
It is, in short – exactly the kind of Local Village for Local People that you’d think it is from the sterling work being done by the Local People in this article…
langsett wrote:
A brilliant advertisement for his PR firm, with amateur signs with illegal messages.
It’s all a bit American
It’s all a bit American Werewolf in London or Straw Dogs. Without the werewolves or raping.
How exactly do they think cyclists will infect them even if all were rampantly carrying Covid? Constantly sneezing whilst riding on the pavements? Stopping at every letter box to cough in it? It’s not airborne really so maybe cylcists stopping to lick car doors?
Rick_Rude wrote:
Damn! I was looking forward to ravishing a few local maidens. Does this mean that the local village idiots actually believe the plots of werewolf and zombie movies? Could we not get the local tv station to show a few Pooh Bear and Enid Blighton movies to reassure them?
12 miles isn’t very far on a
12 miles isn’t very far on a bike ?
It is inconceivable to people
It is inconceivable to people who would drive their car a half mile rather than walk.
In the UK, this is a regular
In the UK, this is a regular conversation – did you ride to work?, followed immediately with exclamations about the danger, the weather, the distance, the apparent superhuman levels of fitness needed to complete this task… To be honest, you’d get fewer questions if you turned up using a jetpack!
Now go to Amsterdam or Copenhagen or similar and it’s so totally normal to ride to work that no-one bats an eyelid or indeed cares!
I will have to dig out this
I will have to dig out this top for when I go through -their heads will explode
Damn, beat me to it!
Damn, beat me to it!
New Zealand, what’s wrong
New Zealand, what’s wrong with the good Old Zealand. Zexit now.
smile and wave, smile and
smile and wave, smile and wave, and sing the higher you build your wall…
I’ve developed an aversion to coughey, spittey joggers, having seen both in my village.
I think this is scarcity, (rather than abundance thinking) at work. Over Easter I challenged some of the more batty comments on my parents’ home town Facebook about the Council selling a town centre car park and all the lost car parking spaces. Maybe the last town centre residential development that only had a handful of visitor parking spaces brought the coronavirus crashing down on us – there were some dire warnings of the world stopping turning as the time, as I recall it. I’m coining the phrase “the answer is me driving my car, what’s the question?”
Anyway, the particualr guy I challenged was adopting a position that basically said just stop all growth – there are traffic jams – he clearly spoke from experience there and (clearly second-hand familiars) the hospital A&E is bursting and you can’t get a school place – stop with all new building (“says someone nicely housed, thank-you” – he and others didn’t like that one) and stop immigration as well. That’s probably what we’re dealing with here – there’s just not enough to go round so we’re keeping it for ourselves.
anyone on here live near Waitrose? I ‘ve got instructions on how to build a simple checkpoint out of toilet paper tube and old boxes.
David9694 wrote:
Hit it one my friend, I am going to be quoting that for the rest of my life 🙂
Glad you liked it, and glad
Glad you liked it, and glad to see upthread there’s been some action to remove the wretched signs. There’s been some “help! we’re swamped, we’re overwhelmed by cyclists and walkers, my neighbour counted nearly 40” in Dorset too. You spent how long counting??
Anyway, update on the above. So it’s news in Salisbury that Debenhams will not be re-opening. Already, the on-line speculation is turning to future uses, of which one is flats, but not just any old flats, no sireee: flats, are you sitting down, built without car parking. There, I said it. This must already be a thing in people’s minds – like when the old Salisbury bus station got redeveloped as a McCarthy & Stone.
Perhaps I’m reading between the lines too much, but there was a sense of indignance, almost moral panic at the very idea. I mean, what if you later got a job that wasn’t on a bus route? Hadn’t thought of that, had you?
Pure, pure speculation – but fact is that most of the buses in Salisbury stop outside (what was) Debenhams and the train station is a hop, skip and a jump away. Tesco Metro just around the corner. There is not a location in Wiltshire where you need your own car less.
Just out of interest, when
Just out of interest, when the citizens of Little Bollingdon jump in their car to drive into town to visit the supermarket, do they find the people in the town put out signs telling the out of towners to go away as well??
No??
The crisis has brought out the best on some prople but the worst in others.
I have to say that in the villiages I have been through, everyone has been very relaxed and friendly so far.
Don’t forget the essential
Don’t forget the essential out of towners doing their deliveries, and are village hospitals still a thing?
After the events of the past
After the events of the past few years; the misinformation, the gammon, the parochialism and solipsism, the petty, pathetic nationalism, I didn’t actually think little England could get any more little.
Lukas wrote:
Micro-England?
It’s near me but I rarely
It’s near me but I rarely ride there because of the inconvenience of the narrow footbridge and the road past the pub being choked with cars and pedestrians.
I suspect that it’s still attracting plenty of peds who arrive by car, especially dog walkers, trying to get into the closed Dunham Massey park or onto the canal towpath.
It is. Last week I almost got
It is. Last week I almost got wpied out by a 4×4 there driving away from the Swan with two nicks – though at least they had a dog and three kids in the back, unlike most 4x4s which are driven around by a single occupant
Idiots, like the sort that
Idiots, like the sort that put signs like that up, are best ignored. They tend to be small minded, clueless types. Their opinions aren’t often shared by the majority of people in their locale either. It’s just that these inadequates shout louder.
So I went to the garage today
So I went to the garage today and “accidentally” jumped on my CX bike rather than the roadbike attached to the turbo, and so found myself going on a local* ride for local people through Little Bollington.
There were** over half a dozen of these signs within a half mile stretch from the junction of Park Lane with the A56 (pictured) through to the footbridge over the Bolington and another at the entrance to Brick-kiln Lane where it meets Woodhouse Lane (adjacent to the gates to Dunham Massey NT).
Footnotes:
* I live approx. 5 miles away
** they were aattached with screws and my multi-tool accidentally fell into the screw-heads and twisted around in ant-clockwise manner on 4 of the signs
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That ones defo illegal, its
That ones defo illegal, its on a restricted byway, the only way to prevent access to those is with a tro. Putting up this sign is an offence under section 132 (1) of the 1980 Highways Act
CCTV could be of some use
CCTV could be of some use then.
The rest were on/adjacent to
The rest were on/adjacent to public highways. They were all illegal.
The rest were on/adjacent to
The rest were on/adjacent to public highways. They were all illegal.
CygnusX1 wrote:
Perhaps you should contact the parish council and ask them for costings of putting up those signs, then follow that up with a Freedom of Information request on CCTV locations and demand to see the ffotage they have of you. That should keep them busy for a while
http://askyourcouncil.uk/understanding-your-council/freedom-of-information/?fbclid=IwAR0AY-MoNILeWcCNm5KhMUlJKw3i1I3KSUbt_k5YzAlZg_w00LayTh9VDpU
You are assuming this was
You are assuming this was done by the pc.
It was.
It was.
clerk [at] littlebollington
clerk@littlebollington.org
has anyone called up on them (it’s a parish meeting, not a parish Council) to clarify their position on this?
You realise you were on CCTV?
You realise you were on CCTV? The L. Bollington neighbourhood watch alliance have now marked your card in order to preserve the greater good.
Quote:
https://images.app.goo.gl/C23UVvwnAdkhPRCq8
Then what happened?
most unfortunate
Then what happened?
Well the signs fell off,
Well the signs fell off, unfortunately. Tempting as it was to destroy or remove them at that point, I just left them nearby. Didn’t want to commit criminal damage or theft.
Here in the French Pyrenees
Here in the French Pyrenees the lock down is much harder. I’ve just paid a 135e fine for cycling to my local supermarket on my Wilier wearing cycling clothes, which the gendarme took exception to, even tho’ it was legitimate under the rules. I could have argued the toss but frankly it’s easier to pay and forget it. Luckily I live on a 10%hill and so an practice hill repeats!
Exactly what “infringements”
Exactly what “infringements” are they expecting to prosecute?
“If your CCTV captures images beyond your property boundary, such as your neighbours’ property or public streets and footpaths, then your use of the system is subject to the data protection laws.”
https://ico.org.uk/your-data-matters/domestic-cctv-systems-guidance-for-people-using-cctv/
Private video surveillance that covers public spaces is subject to GDPR. I wonder whether they comply. One aspect of GDPR is that the purposes for which data is collected must be lawful. I doubt that the prosecution of the non-existant crime of cycling is a lawful purpose.
Since by all appearances this [b]is[/b] their purpose then I suspect that their enterprise is in breach of the law.
Perhaps some local cyclists could start making subject access requests, and take it from there:
https://ico.org.uk/for-organisations/guide-to-data-protection/guide-to-the-general-data-protection-regulation-gdpr/individual-rights/right-of-access/
Signs have been taken down.
Signs have been taken down. Rode through there this morning.
I think we know why !
I think we know why !
Utter fucktards.
Utter fucktards.
Oh well done, clap, clap,
Oh well done, clap, clap, clap. I don’t disagree with your sentiment, but
In a last-ditch bid for some kind of ammunition with which to return fire, you provided Bollington Parish Meeting with – well one bullet – but that’s all they needed.
The only way we’re going to win at this is by being the better man – consistently.
Little Bollington is 14 miles
Little Bollington is 14 miles from me. I think I’ll plan my next ride to go through there.
Anybody else coming? Staying 2m away from each other of course ?
As pointed out the signs
As pointed out the signs actually say you should not stand 2 m away!!
Also they need planning permission for them.
sparrowlegs wrote:
Well done for playing straight in to the cycle-haters hands.
Proof – on a cycling website – that cyclists are intentionally breaking the law.
Which bit of “exercise only with members of your household” didn’t you get?
Oldfatgit wrote:
Little Bollington is 14 miles from me. I think I’ll plan my next ride to go through there.
Anybody else coming? Staying 2m away from each other of course ?
— Oldfatgit Well done for playing straight in to the cycle-haters hands. Proof – on a cycling website – that cyclists are intentionally breaking the law. Which bit of “exercise only with members of your household” didn’t you get?— sparrowlegs
But they’re not breaking the law. That’s kind of the point…
I think it was the invitation
I think it was the invitation to ride as a group that was the law breaking thought crime (not that I for one second think the invitation was literal).
Oh, OK…
Oh, OK…
The invitation was to ride
The invitation was to ride separated by 2m. Doesn’t matter if you’re alone, 2 of you or 2,000 so long as you’re exercising and 2m apart. You could argue 2m is a bit close if you’re huffing and puffing, but that’s inexpert interpretation. The law is 2m
There is no law that say it
There is no law that say it has to be 2m
There are regs about staying at home and activities that fall under reasonable excuse. Under exercise it does say ‘either alone or with other members of their household’. I think you would stuggle to demonstrate it was not a group ride and hence fail the ‘reasonable excuse’ test
It’s all academic as the orginal comment was a joke.
If people wish to see just
If people wish to see just how powerful local Parish councils can be, I suggest you watch a quick episode of “The vicar of Dibley”, I particularly recommend the first ever episode, as it’s hard hitting documentary style investigation unearths the local corruption too.
“Oh no no no no no … err,
“Oh no no no no no … err, yes!”
You may have seen on Twitter,
You may have seen on Twitter, that I wrote the the Little Bollington Parish Council yesterday demanding that they removed the signs, linking in the current legislation and APCC and College of Policing guidelines pointing out that cyclists were perfectly entitled to ride on the public highway through their village as long as it was in accordance with the government guidelines.
I linked in Cheshire Police and Cheshire East Council (they own the verges, so if the signs were put on them they did it illegally) and also my wife, who is the Cycling & Walking Champion on Cheshire East Council. She was going to take this up on Monday morning and get the signs removed, but I received an email response this morning from the Parish Clerk, Mike Reed informing me that the signs were being removed this morning.
If anyone happens to pass through Sun afternoon or later and there are signs still up, please report on here, or on any of the various twitter feeds on this subject and I will dispatch Mrs SAS (yep, her initials!) who will pursue it at Cheshire East level.
It also appears that they had put signs on the towpath on the canal that runs through the village, without permission of the Canals and Rivers Trust, so I would be interested to hear if anyone finds those signs still in place too.
cheers all,
PP
Firstly, top work on the
Firstly, top work on the action, well done!
Secondly – what did the email from the clerk say? Was it full of grovelling apologies that anyone had ever considered this a good idea? Did it deny all knowledge of who had put them up claiming it was one spiteful but anonymous individual? Or was it a sort of “bugger, we’ve been rumbled this time but just you wait…”
Barely anything….
Barely anything….
Pilot Pete wrote:
Whilst I’m fully in favour of brevity, even I have to admit a little more detail would be useful. No further communication from them I assume?
Still signs up as of about
Still signs up as of about 1230 today.
That one looks to be more
That one looks to be more made at home, with laminator, ooohhh.
Plus drawing pins rather than screws.
Much less class, same stupid.
The larger more aggressive
The larger more aggressive ones have gone. This must have been a little straggler just to prove a point.
A great result, and
A great result, and magnanimous of the PC to climb down – never easy.
“Magnaminous?” Are you for
“Magnaminous?” Are you for real??
they’ve been exposed, humiliated, and cajoled into this by public pressure and have now performed a classic reverse ferret.
It would be nice if they were indeed magaminous such that the underlying attitude had changed for good.
who’s idea was it, How many local people were in on it, did any parishioners object?
I ride past the Dunham and
I ride past the Dunham and the Swan with 2 nicks, most days (not seen the signs tho’). What I have noticed is the amount of cars parked on the pavement out side Dunham park since the car park is closed.
Came through on foot about
Came through on foot about 4pm yesterday and counted 6 signs still up.
Rip them down. Cycling is
Rip them down. Cycling is permitted on the towpath of the Bridgewater Canal.
Actually only in certain
Actually only in certain sections – and near Little Bollington is not one of them, so the sign is actually correct in that regard.
http://www.bridgewatercanal.co.uk/todo/cycling
If anything a retrograde step
If anything a retrograde step over the first sign. The symbol is now the classic “No no cycling” used by halfwits countrywide.
With regards signs remaining
With regards signs remaining up, I challenged the Parish Council again today and said that my wife, @suzie_as – Cycling and Walking Champion for Cheshire East Council would be getting involved if he did not confirm to me that they had all been removed. This was his reply.
A man of few words.
A man of few words.
It’s Good to hear that the
It’s Good to hear that the signs in the village have now been removed – Gud ‘un Pete.
The “Cycling Prohibited” signs on the stretch of the Bridgewater canal that passes the village are a permanent feature.
This stretch of the canal is part of one of my favourite rides – “TheChesire Ring” a 97 mile canal circuit around Manchester and into Cheshre.
90 miles of the ride are managed by the Canal and River Trust who actively encourage (responsible) cycling on the canal towpaths in normal times. About seven miles are managed by Peel Holdings who ban cycling, although the quality of the canal towpath is no different from the other 90.
Needless to say when I do the ride I ignore the “No Cycling” signs, but give extra care to pedestrians. I usually get some negative comments from the little Englanders going through Little Bollington and Grapenhall. Trespass is a civil offense, and Peel Holdings could prosecute, but I think it is highly unlikely.
The good news is that you can
The good news is that you can’t/ don’t prosecute for this type of trespass ; the bad news is that your behaviour doesn’t endear cycling to the Peel Trusts of this world.
Hi David9694
Hi David9694
I take it you are not familiar with Peel Holdings.
Check out Wikipedia – Crticism
Utterly baffled.
Utterly baffled.
It doesnt seem that the message is getting across at all. Anyone who moves anywhere at all is either at risk of contracting Covid 19 from someone, or they are at risk of spreading Covid 19 as they are infected.
My 86 year old mum has Covid 19 and she is thankfully confined in hsopital. She also remarkeably has no symptoms what so ever. It will not kill her. Had this Covid virus not been found by blood test she could/would have very happily left Covid on everything that she touched in her old folks home and killed possibly everyone.
While you are fighting for your civil liberties to cycle where and when you want some of you, the carriers with no sysmptoms, are bimbling about leaving Covid where ever you go. 12 hours is the length of time suggested by scientists that it can linger and be picked up by another person.
I live in France and we have had very clear and very firm direction from the Goverment. Stay home, no cycling until its over. That looks like it could be May 11th for some areas of France as we seem to be getting on top of the pandemic and the curve is flattening, deaths per day going down etc.
With all of this movement of people in the UK I can see that you in the UK and Boris will still be dealing with Covid on September /October. Every journey that is not 100% required is spreading the virus by someone. Its that simple.
Glad to hear your mum is
Glad to hear your mum is doing Ok. However you seem to be scaring yourself silly; “bimbling about leaving Covid where ever you go.”
You seem to think that an infected person is like a crop sprayer spreading virus wherever they go. That’s not what happens. You need to be close enough for long enough to be at risk. Well, that pretty much excludes catching it from a cyclist – you’ve little chance of finding yourself within 2m [b]and remaining so[/b] for more than a few seconds with a cyclist.
I worry for the people of
I worry for the people of France. Lack of sustained exercise and Sunlight (Vit D) are terrible for the immune system, as is low mood. And the immune system is our only defence at this point in time. I believe in evidence based policy.
Different governments are
Different governments are taking different approaches to dealing with Coronavirus. History and a lot of analysis will tell us which ones made the better decisions and will be argued about for decades to come. As citizens, all we can really do is go along with whatever strategy our country’s government has decided to implement. The French authorities have banned cycling outdoors, HM UK Gov are encouraging people to go out and take exercise, specifically identifying cycling.
Undoubtedly at one level you are right. Do not go out, do not risk spreading disease. At another level cooping people up inside for weeks on end, often in crowded accomodation has its own detrimental consequences.
The outrage at this particular attack on our civil liberties is that a small minded minority are attempting to impose their own rules, going against official policy and guidelines. This behaviour needs to be called out and stopped.
There have been reports of
There have been reports of small riots starting in Paris.
I wouldn’t read too much into
I wouldn’t read too much into that – its the usual young guys from the banlieus who need very little excuse to set fire to sh*t and throw stuff at the police, who then respond ‘sensitively’ to avoid upsetting community relations.
According to my sister who lives there at least.
In response to the fact that
In response to the fact that it appears that Little Bollington Parish Council were leaving signs up on the canal, I wrote Mike another email yesterday. He has not replied.
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And this morning I received
And this morning I received this reply. They were advised the wording was inappropriate, but no acknowledgement that the sentiment was in any way wrong…
Everything was OK today. No
Everything was OK today. No Problems.
You should have changed drive
You should have changed drive to cycle !