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Councillor who said she’d paint (now removed) bike lane black slams “ignorant” people who painted it back

Twitter user asks whether “this furious councillor is the same furious councillor who threatened to paint out the cycle lanes?”

A Conservative councillor who last year offered to paint over a temporary cycle lane because Brighton & Hove City Council was not removing it as quickly as she wanted has slammed “ignorant” people who painted the road markings back in.

The makeshift markings on Old Shoreham Road have been painted in at the same location formerly occupied by the cycle lane, which the city council introduced last year in response to the coronavirus pandemic.

The cycle lane, which proved hugely popular with local cyclists, was removed in September – but has now reappeared thanks, presumably, to guerrilla activists.

But Councillor Dawn Barnett is calling for the people who painted in the new lane to be tracked down and prosecuted, claiming that it will cause collisions.

She told the Argus: “I want it removed asap. While it is left there, it is going to cause accidents.

“I would like it removed as soon as possible and if we find out who done it, I would like them prosecuted.

“It is going to cause an accident because people are unsure.

“It was taken out because it wasn't safe and it wasn't used and now they are putting in scrappy lines.

“There must be cameras along there to see who was around.

“The people that did it – well they are ignorant,” she added.

But one Twitter user asked the Argus: “Can you confirm or deny if this furious councillor, is the same furious councillor who threatened to paint out the cycle lanes on Old Shoreham Road?”

Brighton & Hove City Council announced last August that it would begin removing the lane the following month – but that wasn’t soon enough for Councillor Barnett, who said she’d be happy to go down there and paint out the markings herself.

> Councillor offers to paint over cycle lane lines to speed up Old Shoreham bike lane’s removal

“I’m sorry it’s not being removed quicker than that after it went in overnight,” she told the Argus at the time. “I’ve offered to go along there with a tin of black paint to cover up the white lines.

“I understand highways have got to remove the high signs and burn off the white lines but I don’t want it dragging on.

“The council could go along there and get the posts out. It shows willing and lets people know it is happening,” she added.

The local authority said at the time that it would remove the lane “as soon as possible,” but pointed out that “this involves a considerable amount of planning to make sure we fulfil legal requirements in terms of removing the road markings and wands, reinstating the carriageway and repairing it where necessary, removing or changing the signage and adjusting traffic signals in a safe and co-ordinated manner.

“It is also dependent on our highways contractors, who tend to only have limited availability at this time of year,” the council added.

The council has said that it will remove the unauthorised markings, and is urging people not to reinstate them.

Last month, we reported how parents of local schoolchildren had set up a “bike train” to get them to school safely along Old Shoreham Road, and have launched a petition calling on the council to put the lane back.

> Parents set up ‘bike train’ for school run after council rips out bike lane (+ video)

Simon joined road.cc as news editor in 2009 and is now the site’s community editor, acting as a link between the team producing the content and our readers. A law and languages graduate, published translator and former retail analyst, he has reported on issues as diverse as cycling-related court cases, anti-doping investigations, the latest developments in the bike industry and the sport’s biggest races. Now back in London full-time after 15 years living in Oxford and Cambridge, he loves cycling along the Thames but misses having his former riding buddy, Elodie the miniature schnauzer, in the basket in front of him.

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brooksby | 2 years ago
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Is it me, or has this thread about the Old Shoreham cycle lane (and removal of same) gone a little bit off topic...? 

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belugabob | 2 years ago
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"if we find out who done it"

'whodunnit', possibly, 'who did it', preferably.

“It is going to cause an accident because people are unsure."

Yet, at the same time, road markings for cars are commonly introduced in a way that definitely makes people unsure. Recent changes to Junction 11 of the M23 have resulted in 4 lanes at one part of the roundabout, 2 in other parts and 3 in another part. At no point in the (very protracted) planning/buulding process, did it occur to anybody that having left turn lanes filter round without hinderance would be a good idea, but it was deemed necessary to remove the one filter lane that was already there.
Every time I use this junction, I'm waiting for a crash to happen.

Traffic layouts need to be made much more simple, not more complicated.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/WiVEkJZyFxLwoBJE9

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Captain Badger | 2 years ago
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Funny. If I'm "unsure" when behind the wheel my course of action tends to be slow down and take even more care than usual.
Now I see I've been doing it wrong, I should have an accident.
Feeling a bit stupid now....

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matt_cycles | 2 years ago
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Ah yes, Councillor Dawn Barnett aka NIMBY.

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eburtthebike | 2 years ago
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No prizes for guessing that she was a tory, the party of sleaze and hypocrisy.

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wycombewheeler replied to eburtthebike | 2 years ago
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eburtthebike wrote:

No prizes for guessing that she was a tory, the party of sleaze and hypocrisy.

Rupa Huq also a tory?

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Secret_squirrel replied to wycombewheeler | 2 years ago
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Is Rupa sleazy?

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eburtthebike replied to wycombewheeler | 2 years ago
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wycombewheeler wrote:
eburtthebike wrote:

No prizes for guessing that she was a tory, the party of sleaze and hypocrisy.

Rupa Huq also a tory?

I've no idea; how is that relevant?

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Flintshire Boy replied to eburtthebike | 2 years ago
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Yawn. Yawn. Yawn. Yawn. Yawn.

Grow. Up. Buddy.

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Rendel Harris replied to Flintshire Boy | 2 years ago
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mdavidford | 2 years ago
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Can the people who took the decision to remove the protected lane be prosecuted because ' it will cause collisions'?

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cbrndc | 2 years ago
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I would have put money on the fact that she would be FAT

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Awavey replied to cbrndc | 2 years ago
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Captain Badger replied to cbrndc | 2 years ago
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cbrndc wrote:

I would have put money on the fact that she would be FAT

Is that an acronym, or did you mean that as written?

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Jenova20 replied to Captain Badger | 2 years ago
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Captain Badger wrote:
cbrndc wrote:

I would have put money on the fact that she would be FAT

Is that an acronym, or did you mean that as written?

Frickin Awful Turd (Of a person)?

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Captain Badger replied to Jenova20 | 2 years ago
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Jenova20 wrote:

....

Frickin Awful Turd (Of a person)?

Well there's no call for that, I was only asking...

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Flintshire Boy replied to Jenova20 | 2 years ago
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Good, good, good.

How to win hearts and minds, how to get people with differing views to yours on to your side.

Oh, hang on ......

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Hirsute replied to Flintshire Boy | 2 years ago
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How's that working out for you?

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eburtthebike replied to cbrndc | 2 years ago
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cbrndc wrote:

I would have put money on the fact that she would be FAT

Reminds me of Angela Lee aka the swamp monster from BHIT (Bicycle Helmet Initiative Trust, now renamed Cycle Smart).  For some reason, full length pictures of her are extremely rare, but here's a portrait.  As I recall, she was the size of a blimp wearing a marquee, and was happy to ignore the risks of obesity, but made it her business to deter as many people as possible from cycling by saying that they would die without a helmet.  And to sell helmets of course.

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Rendel Harris replied to eburtthebike | 2 years ago
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Come on Burt, you can make your case without fatshaming, eh?

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eburtthebike replied to Rendel Harris | 2 years ago
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Not fat shaming, merely pointing out that taking advice about health from someone who clearly doesn't care about her own health might not be sensible.  Someone who doesn't care about the massive negative effects in terms of health and obesity, thousands of times greater than any possible benefits from her actions.  She's the very definition of the hypocritical helmet zealot.

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Rendel Harris replied to eburtthebike | 2 years ago
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Come on mate, you called her a swamp monster and a blimp. Even though I disagree with your view on helmets I respect your logically constructed arguments, you don't need to go there.

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eburtthebike replied to Rendel Harris | 2 years ago
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Rendel Harris wrote:

Come on mate, you called her a swamp monster and a blimp. Even though I disagree with your view on helmets I respect your logically constructed arguments, you don't need to go there.

Sorry, I'm not apologising for calling someone those things when she is single-handledly responsible for shortening the lives of thousands of people.  BHIT peddled lies and misinformation in its zealotry, blatantly presenting cycling as much more dangerous than it actually is, deterring many from riding bikes, which wouldn't have been quite so bad if helmets actually saved lives.

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Rendel Harris replied to eburtthebike | 2 years ago
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eburtthebike wrote:

Sorry, I'm not apologising for calling someone those things when she is single-handledly responsible for shortening the lives of thousands of people.  BHIT peddled lies and misinformation in its zealotry, blatantly presenting cycling as much more dangerous than it actually is, deterring many from riding bikes, which wouldn't have been quite so bad if helmets actually saved lives.

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But her weight and appearance has nothing to do with it. If you believe what you've said - and I make no comment one way or the other - isn't that enough to focus on, without using fairly unpleasant insults about her weight? It actually undermines the seriousness of your argument. 

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hawkinspeter replied to eburtthebike | 2 years ago
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eburtthebike wrote:

Sorry, I'm not apologising for calling someone those things when she is single-handledly responsible for shortening the lives of thousands of people.  BHIT peddled lies and misinformation in its zealotry, blatantly presenting cycling as much more dangerous than it actually is, deterring many from riding bikes, which wouldn't have been quite so bad if helmets actually saved lives.

Surely your argument would hold up no matter the shape of her body though? I think it's counter-productive to draw attention to someone's body shape when it's not directly related to the topic.

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Sriracha replied to hawkinspeter | 2 years ago
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hawkinspeter wrote:
eburtthebike wrote:

Sorry, I'm not apologising for calling someone those things when she is single-handledly responsible for shortening the lives of thousands of people.  BHIT peddled lies and misinformation in its zealotry, blatantly presenting cycling as much more dangerous than it actually is, deterring many from riding bikes, which wouldn't have been quite so bad if helmets actually saved lives.

Surely your argument would hold up no matter the shape of her body though? I think it's counter-productive to draw attention to someone's body shape when it's not directly related to the topic.

I don't think it is so hard to see the irony of one who embodies the deleterious effects of a sedentary lifestyle advocating for measures that reduce cycling, especially in the name of health.

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Rendel Harris replied to Sriracha | 2 years ago
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I don't think it is so hard to see the irony of one who embodies the deleterious effects of a sedentary lifestyle advocating for measures that reduce cycling, especially in the name of health.

Firstly, one assumes you have no idea why this woman is carrying excess weight, which could, whatever our nastiest troll says, be from a plethora of health or psychological problems; secondly, even if you believe it's a point worth making, that doesn't excuse calling her a "blimp" and a "swamp monster". Honestly can't believe that that sort of abuse is being defended.

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Sriracha replied to Rendel Harris | 2 years ago
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For the record, I have never defended the name calling.

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Rendel Harris replied to Sriracha | 2 years ago
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With all respect, if, without knowing any of the reasons why this woman might be overweight, you state she "embodies the deleterious effects of a sedentary lifestyle" you're just name-calling slightly more politely than others.

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Sriracha replied to Rendel Harris | 2 years ago
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Rendel Harris wrote:

With all respect, if, without knowing any of the reasons why this woman might be overweight, you state she "embodies the deleterious effects of a sedentary lifestyle" you're just name-calling slightly more politely than others.

You're right, I have no idea how she became overweight, but I can see how I might have given the impression that it was lack of exercise.

Nevertheless, I think it hypocritical that she would advocate, in the cause of reducing risk to health, for measures shown to lead others to the same unhealthy situation, whether or not that is how she got there herself.

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