Revisions to the Highway Code aimed at protecting vulnerable road users came into force this weekend – and some news outlets have marked the occasion by calling for the changes to be scrapped and declaring a ‘battle of the Highway Code’ on Britain’s roads.
The updated Highway Code includes not only the laws that road users are required to follow but also contains advice aimed at improving safety. A new hierarchy of road users has been introduced, where the most dangerous road users carry the greatest responsibility for the safety of the most vulnerable, with pedestrians at the top of this hierarchy followed by cyclists.
Other updates include advice for cyclists in certain situations (such as riding in the middle of their lane to increase visibility on quiet roads, in slower-moving traffic, and when approaching junctions), giving priority to pedestrians at junctions, and encouraging the adoption of the ‘Dutch Reach’ method of opening car doors.
> Highway Code changes: ‘What about cyclists, or do the rules not apply to them?’
Despite the new Highway Code’s focus on the safety of all road users, some media outlets and commentators predicted “carnage” under the new rules.
This stance has not softened since the changes were introduced on Saturday. In two articles titled “The day cyclists took over the roads” and “Battle of the Highway Code”, the Mail Online claimed that since the new rules were brought in, cyclists have been “deliberately hogging the centre of the road, causing pile-ups of traffic behind them”.
The Mail again misleadingly referred to cyclists “taking to the middle of the road and riding two-abreast” with drivers “powerless to stop them under the new Highway Code”. This claim has been rebuffed by groups such as Cycling UK, who emphasise that bike riders are asked to ride in the centre of their lane in certain situations, not the middle of the road.
> Press misrepresents Highway Code changes – just days before they come into force
The site also prominently shared a tweet which claimed that a group of cyclists “refused to let cars past for eight miles looking back and laughing”.
As we reported on Friday, the Times responded to the incoming revisions by calling for cyclists to be licensed and insured, almost 10 years to the day since the newspaper launched an award-winning campaign to make Britain’s roads safer for people on bikes. The paper also appealed for a new offence of death by dangerous cycling to be introduced, under the headline “Killer cyclists may be classed like motorists“.
Beyond the written press, the changes were featured on a particularly embarrassing segment on GB News yesterday, hosted by conservative political commentator Darren Grimes.
Grimes said that the new hierarchy featured “pedestrians and cyclists at the very top” before adding “I don’t need to tell you where motorists end up” (the presenter, hosting his first show on the channel, neglected to mention that van and lorry drivers bear more responsibility for car drivers and motorcyclists under the updated guidance).
He also criticised what he said was the overt emphasis on dangerous drivers under the new rules, claiming that in London “you’re lucky if you get away with your life with cyclists storming down the road so fast”, despite cyclists being involved in four of the 346 incidents which resulted in the death of a pedestrian in 2020.
> Grant Shapps calls for new ‘death by dangerous cycling’ law
Grimes was joined on the programme by Fair Fuel UK’s Howard Cox, a prominent opponent of the new Highway Code, who described the changes as “a cyclist’s charter” and said that the updates permitted bike riders “to cycle in any way they wish, no matter how dangerous, without fear of prosecution.”
Cox continued: “They have been given the right to pass all the blame to other road users. They are innocent no matter what they do, and this can’t be right. I believe this Highway Code will actually lead to more injuries and more deaths.”
Despite Cox’s criticism of the changes, he called for the updates to “be sent to every household in this country”.
“This Highway Code assumes all drivers are homicidal maniacs, and that is completely and utterly unjust,” he said.
While Cox adamantly defended the “law-abided majority” of motorists, one TikTok user was criticised over the weekend for claiming that the new rules meant that she was inevitably “going to hurt people”.
Chantelle Bradd, a model from Bristol, posted a video on the social media platform in which she argued that the new Highway Code was part of the government’s attempt “to de-populate us”.
Give up your licence. pic.twitter.com/mBV9pkCWWu
— put it in the bin (@photogog) January 30, 2022
In the video (which contains copious amounts of swearing), she said: “I’m a new driver, so I don’t know how I’m even going to deal with driving through the centre of Bristol, because bikes now can be on either side of you, and you have to give way to them.
“They don’t have to use the cycle lanes, which our councils have spent maybe millions of pounds on. They can opt to be in the centre of the road instead, they can ride two-abreast in the middle of the road, so they’re definitely going to be making you late for work in the morning. Why have you done this?
“People are going to get hurt,” she continued. “I am going to hurt people. I’m going to be responsible for hitting Maisie with her little helmet going to school. I’m going to t**t her off her bike in the morning because of this. Why?”
Yesterday, Cycling UK called for a long-term public awareness campaign from the government to help produce a “mindset shift” on British roads and to counteract misleading reports in the media. The charity says it will take years to fully enforce the revisions and change “entrenched driving behaviour”.
“The latest changes to the Highway Code are a hugely important start towards a mindset shift that will make the roads safer for everyone – not just for people who choose to cycle or walk,” Cycling UK’s head of campaigns Duncan Dollimore said.
“The changes in our driving behaviour, however, will only happen if the government commits to communicating them with simple, accurate, and memorable messaging in the long term.
“We’ve seen the public’s attitude shift on seat belt use and drink driving. This shows entrenched driving behaviour can change. The new Highway Code requires a similar shift, and it can happen again but not overnight.
“To make our roads safer for everyone, the government must be looking in terms of years not months to communicate and eventually enforce these changes.”





















105 thoughts on ““The day cyclists took over the roads”: The Times, Darren Grimes and TikTok react as new Highway Code revisions come into force this weekend”
I can only assume the
I can only assume the following is some sort of young person’s speak that is understood by them as humour.
It can’t be literal can it?
“I’m going to be responsible for hitting Maisie with her little helmet going to school. I’m going to t**t her off her bike in the morning because of this. Why?”
Laughing about it as she
Laughing about it as she admits that she is incapable of following established road law and will likely kill a child as a result. As good a case for licence revocation as one could imagine.
I just made use of the new
I just made use of the new guidance – I’d come from the suspension bridge and was wanting to turn left towards The Downs, but there were some pedestrians trying to cross. I motioned them across, which they didn’t react to, so I stopped, repeated the hand motion and said “after you” and then entered the side road behind them as they crossed. Simples.
But what about the carnage
But what about the carnage behind you of a multiple vehicle pile up ?
And how did he look back
And how did he look back laughing at the carnage whilst simultaneously watching and waving the pedestrians across the road?
Mattleng1 wrote:
Handlebar end mirror
hirsute wrote:
It was horrendous, but sounded like not my problem.
hirsute wrote:
I’d been reading about this impending doom scenario yesterday, so naturally I was terrified when I needed to turn right today and there was not a gap in oncoming traffic. Amazingly, even though I had to stop and wait to turn, none of the drivers behind slammed into the back of me.
Perhaps those that are really concerned can just treat a left turn as if it’s a right turn, and everything will work out in the end.
That’s reassuring. I thought
That’s reassuring. I thought it was specifically left turns were going to end the world, though? Isn’t it the rule that under no circumstances should they hold anyone up? (Most of our roads seem designed with that in mind with wide sweeping corners.) Don’t advanced drivers sometimes not signal for these?
I thought it was specifically
I thought it was specifically left turns were going to end the world, though?
I’m hoping that someone will obtain video of a driver ignoring the new ‘give way’ rule in connection with a crossing of a side road, either against a pedestrian or a cyclist walking with a bike, and then reporting the violation to the police. A violation more likely to be captured by a cyclist is a driver crossing right in front of the cyclist going straight ahead on the main road, with the driver turning either right or left from the main road into a side road. Camera vigilantes: look out for it!
‘Camera vigilantes’.
‘Camera vigilantes’.
Got anyone particular in mind?(!!)
I don’t think I’ve ever seen
I don’t think I’ve ever seen any cammer, even the one you allude to, drag a motorist from their vehicle to give them a summary beating or take their licence from them. I think you’ve fallen for the DM’s interpretation of what a vigilante is.
how about the dictionary
how about the dictionary definition, not some made up nonsense?
vigilante
a member of a self-appointed group of citizens who undertake law enforcement in their community without legal authority, typically because the legal agencies are thought to be inadequate.
grOg wrote:
People with cycle cams do not “undertake law enforcement”, they report crimes to the authorities for enforcement, it’s essentially no different to telephoning the police when one sees a crime. As for “without legal authority”, a number of police forces in the UK positively encourage the submission of camera footage and have special sections of their websites and dedicated units to process it. Thank you for providing a definition that conclusively proves that cycle cammers are not vigilantes.
Law enforcement is not
Law enforcement is not undertaken and police forces encourage submissions.
This has been pointed out to you before.
Also operation snap showed the majority of submissions are from drivers.
Dobbing somebody in isn’t
Dobbing somebody in isn’t vigilantism. Challenging someone for their illegal behaviour isn’t either. I know of regular citizens in Belfast who have challenged terrorists about to carry out a rocket attack on a sanger simply because it would mean every door in that street would get kicked in several hours later. I’ve seen people intervene and drag assailants off the person being attacked. In my job I’m totally within my rights to challenge and detain shoplifters by making a citizens arrest. If I see a drunk staggering out of a pub and attempt to get in their car I can stop them take their keys from them and hand them to the police.
Vigilantism is only when people act as judge and jury. Much like the punishment beatings you get in some cities.
a certain seth efriken..
a certain seth efriken..
wtjs wrote:
With all due respect mate, let’s not call ourselves vigilantes, that’s what the Heil and other lavatory paper manufacturers (and doubtless their fanboys on here) call us. A vigilante is someone who takes the law into their own hands; cycle cammers are simply supporting the upholding of the law by reporting breaches of it to the police, we’re no more vigilantes than someone who calls the police because they see a house being burgled, it’s just being a good citizen. A Sir Robert Peel memorably said:
“The Police are the Public; the Public are the Police. The Police are paid to give full time attention to duties that are incumbent upon every citizen in the interest of community welfare and existence.”
Quoting something stated by
Quoting something stated by Peel, way back circa 1830’s reminds me of U.S. firearm enthusiasts that believe an ancient 2nd amendment to their Constitution gives them the right to carry military grade assault rifles when going shopping.. the reality is this; if you obtain camera evidence of traffic offences while cycling, then by all means, send it to police, but if you approach a member of the public to remonstrate with them about their behaviour or even worse, step into the roadway and forcibly stop traffic, then that is vigilante action and in Australia, is in breach of road rage laws.
grOg wrote:
Yes it’s exactly the same except in no way whatsoever. Seeing as elsewhere in your fifty-odd posts in the last few hours (busy day?) you admit to driving at 100kph in a 60kph zone, it’s hardly surprising that you’re against the concept of illegal driving being caught on camera.
Oh, and this article is about reactions to changes in the UK Highway Code, so whatever laws pertain in Australia are hardly relevant.
On one occasion I had to pull
On one occasion I had to pull two guys knocking lumps out of each other. Did I break the law doing this? Or would you rather me to wait for the polis while they inflicted more serious injuries on each other.
Except nobody in the 1700s
Except nobody in the 1700s anticipated the advances made in tech regarding guns and haven’t introduced controls because of the influences of the NRA. The U.K. allows for automatic weapons but it is highly regulated. The police forces throughout the world probably appreciate public involvement to deescalate issues through peer pressure or whatever. They will draw the line at them being judge and jury though.
This is the thing that’s been
This is the thing that’s been confusing me. For years left turning vehicles have been required to give priority to pedestrians already crossing. Yet I’ve never seen a motorist being shunted on the rare occasions that they do this.
I’m confused. Does the Times
I’m confused. Does the Times want cyclists punished if they drive dangerously? Or treated like car drivers? Which one…?
We did have an example of a
We did have an example of a confused driver today, old boy in a jaguar stopped on a roundabout as we were about to join, it all got a bit messy to be honest as everyone tried to give way without unclipping but waves and smiles in the end. Other than that, some close passes but no outright aggression.
Local paper FB page is just horrific though.
Definitely felt a bit
Definitely felt a bit different on our ride today. Frost meant we were a smaller than usual group of 4, but had some motorists hanging well back, more being entirely across the white line.
Still had a major plonker though. A cone had got knocked across into the lane through roadworks causing cars to swerve round it. I slowed, picked the cone up and dropped it to where it came from. This sent a guy behind me insane, shouting, revving and demanding swearily that I stop so he could give me a portion of his wisdom. Fortunately, he turned off about 200 yards up the road. I wouldn’t mind, but the cone made no odds to cyclists.
You were treated with more
You were treated with more courtesy because you were in a smaller group of four. Might be a lesson there somewhere for you.
I think you’ll find you’re
I think you’ll find you’re wrong.
IanMSpencer wrote:
Did you mean about anything in particular, or was this just a general observation?
Garage at Large wrote:
Well I was riding solo, in secondary position across Dorney Common
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Dorney+Common,+Windsor/@51.4989678,-0.656289,15z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x48767b5ca89c06d3:0xbdffc4eb4e615773!8m2!3d51.4980935!4d-0.6513322
When a driver came from behind, pulled alongside (no delay as nothing oncoming) called me a c**t and told me to move over. 2010 vintage BMW (no surprise) , Caught him at the traffic lights 1.5 miles down the road, so even if he had been stuck behind me it would have cost him zero actual time.
So, it’s not about group size it’s just about some drivers having been triggered by tabloid media and being generally unplesant.
Oh yes, young child on passenger seat for this exchange, I was quite tempted to wave my little finger at him in honour of his small dick when I filtered up to the advanced stop line.
wycombewheeler wrote:
So, it’s not about group size it’s just about some drivers having been triggered by tabloid media and being generally unplesant.
Oh yes, young child on passenger seat for this exchange, I was quite tempted to wave my little finger at him in honour of his small dick when I filtered up to the advanced stop line.— Garage at Large
I agree, I encounter the same amount of sh!tty attitudes from a small number of drivers whether I ride solo or in a group.
It will undoubtedly be worse for the next 2 or 3 months until the media hysteria dies down and drivers realise that the updates to the Highway Code in the majority of cases were simply clarifying the existing rules.
GAL will continue to bleat on about the new rules going to cause accidents…. when in reality the style of riding for the vast majoirty of cyclists isn’t going to change…. I have always ridden in primary position when I have felt the need for my own safety to do so, but the majority of the time would ride in secondary position.
GAL will always interpret any cyclist who does not automatically move from Primary position as soon as a motor vehicle is behind them…. as an antagonistic lycra warrior on a jolly with the sole purpose of holding up a motorist that has to be on a very important journey. Regardless of the fact that the cyclist is maintaining primary position for safety reasons. i.e. on the approach to a blind corner, on the approach to a roundabout or other pinch point.
wycombewheeler wrote:
On the subject of traffic lights…… yesterday I was driving and as I approached a set of traffic lights they changed to amber as I was approaching and despite travelling close to the speed limit (50mph) and only being about 50m away at the time in the 3 seconds from the lights going to amber I managed to safely stop my car and the car directly behind me never ran into the back of me. I never had to use the GAL principle of going through a “recently established red light”
Then at a separate set of traffic lights I can only assume GAL was driving in the opposite direction to me. Turning right from a filter lane behind another car….. filter light comes on and the car in front of me turns right….. as I start to turn I have to do an emergency stop to avoid running into a driver following GAL’s “recently established red light” principle who plows through the red light…… surprisingly it was….. wait for it…. yes you guessed it…… an early 2010’s BMW 3 series
We certainly has one incident
We certainly has one incident on a steep climb to Astwood Bank where as a group of 4 we singled out and where just too tempting for a BMW to attempt a pass while an oncoming car was visible forcing his way into the group to avoid a head on and nearly rear-ending our lead rider and bringing no. 2 rider to a halt in evasion. Our fault for singling out rather than grinding up in a compact 4 – which would have got abuse from the usual suspects (and it did prove the point that singling out does not help motorists get past). In our 8 or 10 we would have probably stayed 2 abreast but the group would have broken up into two.
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The day the cyclists took
The day the cyclists took over the roads – no, that’s the last Friday or Saturday every month. Just wait until they come across a critical mass event – their worst nightmares will be incarnated. In Edinburgh this plague looked like this:
This is actually genuinely
This is actually genuinely the stuff of rage at “entitled” cyclists: motorist on the left in 1st picture was blocked until all the cyclists had passed (would have been the same if the road was full of cars…). Not proceeding at anything near the Minimum Speed Limits – more 8mph than 12. Definitely getting in the way because filling the entire lane or maybe all ongoing lanes. Cycling through red lights. (Stopping at ones in front of the group but if lights go red while the group’s passing they keep going to avoid any cars within the mass). Blocking pedestrian crossings in the same way (yeah… not so sure about this one myself). Not cycling in the cycle lanes (there wouldn’t be room… and anyway these nowhere form a connected network). General lack of helmets and hi-vis. Clear presence of youths pulling wheelies. People not being intimidated. (The goal is “friendly interaction” but since there’s no leader, no membership …)
5 cars held up here!
Our club ride today … most
Our club ride today … most overtakes were ok; only one over take incident where an artic passed us wide and long during an empty section of road; unfortunatley, he went too long and an oncoming car appeared around a bend and was made to stop by the truck. The truck driver didn’t have to go as long as he did, so I guess he wanted to ensure he was *really* clear before pulling back in.
We had a few people shaking their magic beans coming towards us for being doubled up; a shout from a moped rider coming towards us (and not inconvinenced by us in anyway shape or form) telling us to ride in single file; and an angry shout from a car driver – something along the lines of ‘usless fucking cyclists’ for being made to slow down to around 18mph in a 20 zone.
So in all, about par for the course for around here.
Glad to hear you are riding
Glad to hear you are riding again.
Thank you, ktache.
Thank you, ktache.
It’s been a battle; I’m physically as good as I’m going to get, and hopefully the legal stuff will be over soon. 3 1/2 years on a case of admitted liability, and we’re still no where near a settlement.
Hopefully, it’ll have calmed
Hopefully, it’ll have calmed down in a week or two media wise but of course, the rules will still be there
He also criticised what he
He also criticised what he said was the overt emphasis on dangerous drivers under the new rules, claiming that in London “you’re lucky if you get away with your life with cyclists storming down the road so fast”,
Yeah bloody cyclists – always in the way holding oppressed drivists up. Oh wait hang on…..
Isn’t this as expected from a
Isn’t this as expected from a brainless ‘model’ called Chantelle?
wtjs wrote:
Probably.
Let’s hope her employer (presuming she can actually hold down a job) takes a dim view.
But why is it that even newly qualified drivers have already been suckered into believing that they have some god-given right to rule the road?
FFS!
Simon E wrote:
because for years they have been on the other side, yielding to the drivers that ruled the roads, and now they want their turn.
More likely that throughout
More likely that throughout childhood they have been ferried short distances in their parent’s cars and never had a bicycle beyond the one they got at the age of 3 with stabilisers that did a few trips to the local playground before being car booted. The thought of walking let alone cycling are considered horrendous, demeaning options for losers.
Why would her employer have
Why would her employer have any view on her social media output? as long as she can perform her job function satisfactorily, that should be all that’s required by her employer; employers thinking they can ‘cancel’ an employee because of sharing an opinion on social media is a cancer on society.
We’re advised to be careful
We’re advised to be careful on our social media postings especially when we’ve highlighted who we work for. As the employer does not want the image of hiring individuals of questionable attitudes.
Because the employee can
Because the employee can bring the employer into disrepute. This is not a new concept. Just because there are now more ways to bring your employer into disrepute, does not mean some sort of cancer on society. Previously people were limited to writing a letter to a newspaper, now they do this via various online platforms.
We recently sacked someone
We recently sacked someone for their virulent anti-Muslim hate on social media.
There is a basic level of decency that colleagues can expect. There is a basic level of decency the end user can expect (it was a role that was customer facing and the role required the use if judgement on customer circumstances). Also, if you’re stupid enough to spout this stuff, you’re too stupid to the do the job
Good (sensible) piece in i
Good (sensible) piece in i Weekend.
of course not all motorists
of course not all motorists are homicidal maniacs. Most are simply not paying attention; many are frustrated/angry; many more are simply extremely thick and many are sensible people going about their daily business, unconcerned by the global environmental crisis.
But, as cyclists, we have to assume that they are all homicidal maniacs, because we only need to encounter one.
If you think that tiktok
If you think that tiktok video, from Chantelle Bradd, is shocking, then one of her earlier posts will simply scare you…
https://www.tiktok.com/@chantellebradd/video/7053729413762010374?is_copy_url=1&is_from_webapp=v1&lang=en
I disagree, belugabob. Most
I disagree, belugabob. Most people consider themselves above-average drivers and refuse to admit that they could make a mistake.
Fursty Ferret wrote:
Good point…
Spot on
Spot on
One survey found that 98% of American drivers thought they were above average.
I don’t have a figure for the UK – it may be better (or worse!)
Cycloid wrote:
I believe a mere 85% of UK drivers think they are better than average…not sure where I read that though.
Daveyraveygravey wrote:
Assuming you are thinking of the mean average, that is entirely possible, if most people drive at standard x, and a few at x-y. Or, think about a small firm with 9 engineers paid 50k each, and one admin bod paid 10k. 90% are paid above the average.
But you’d have a point if we consider the median instead.
Mean, Mode, Median – Whatever
Mean, Mode, Median – Whatever measure of centrality you take most drivers think they are in the top half
Cycloid wrote:
And if you are using the word “half” in the vernacular sense of “bigger half”, they’d be right, since only the median splits the population in two equal halves.
The power of the original statement, “most drivers think they’re better than average”, relies on the double-take people do when it strikes them that the statement must be impossible, from which it is a short step to concluding that most drivers overestimate their driving. The double-take rests on the popular misconception that exactly half must be above and exactly half must be below the average.
Taking a simple but appropriate measure of driving quality, how much room I’m given when overtaken on my bike, I’d say the vast majority of drivers are above average, since they give me no cause for concern whatsoever. The average is dragged down by the few idiots who close pass. That leaves the few idiots well below the average, with the great majority marginally above the average.
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That’s an interesting perspective though, isn’t it, and one I frequently fall into myself, in thinking that somebody obeying road law is de facto about average? Have we become so used to being subjected to bad driving that what should be average or standard appears to us as above average?
Actually I’d argue that the
Actually I’d argue that the sense of ‘average’ most people are using when they answer this is none of those, but the further sense (perfectly acceptable if you’re a real person, rather than a mathematician) of ‘neither above or below an acceptable standard’. On that basis, I’d suggest that the reality is that most drivers are below average.
Daveyraveygravey wrote:
Does that make UK drivers above average at judging whether they’re better than average?
mdavidford wrote:
On average, yes
Sounds about right.
Sounds about right.
the same article I got my info from said 65% of Swedish drivers thought they were above average
At least Chantelle recognises
At least Chantelle recognises some of the everyday situations re pedestrians and cyclists that she is going to have to contend with. She also acknowledges her own lack of experience and an awareness of her own deficiences with spatial awareness. I expect we would all be better road users if we did likewise.
Part of me wants to watch,
Part of me wants to watch, just in case my blood pressure is dangerously low right now… 😉
Edit:
“I just think I should not ever be allowed to pass my f-ing test hah-ha-ha!”
Edit (2):
Just started to watch the one from the Liveblog. The weird echoing <BANG> you all heard was probably a vein in my forehead popping…
Edit (3):
She thinks it’s hilarious that she admits she’s a rubbish driver, that she can’t be expected to be aware of what’s going on around her, and that she’ll probably end up killing someone. High. Lair. Ee-ous.
Meanwhile, some common sense
Meanwhile, some common sense about the new HC rules from Mike Rutherford in Auto Express, which may be surprising as he’s a petrolhead par excellence. Cycling barely makes a mention in his article:
https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/opinion/357214/get-familiar-new-highway-code-so-you-can-save-lives
OldRidgeback wrote:
Not sure about this bit though…
That is to keep your take-out
That is to keep your take-out warm. As you will, according to some sources, be trapped behind a cyclist riding in the middle of the road for at least 8 miles.
Picked this article up by a
Picked this article up by a self confessed petrol head as well. https://www.warwickshireworld.com/news/people/the-rugby-advertisers-view-youre-not-allowed-to-kill-cyclists-because-some-of-them-annoy-you-3543310
Also from the auto express article. Was taught to drive out of a parking space many years ago. Can never figure out why people insist attempting a reverse with minimal sight lines. Also having driven the length of England spent time on musing why petrol stations no longer have a bucket of water and sponge to wash windows, lights and number plates as mine were filthy after 300 odd miles.
giff77 wrote:
Thanks – that’s a well written article.
The inability of people to
The inability of people to reverse into spaces (including their own driveways!) infuriates me.
JustTryingToGetFromAtoB wrote
They know what other motorists are like when they perceive themselves to be held up for a few seconds, and the ones they’d annoy whilst reversing into their driveway would know where they live!
But the ones held up whilst
But the ones held up whilst they reverse out have no clue where they live?
Reversing in gives you the opportunity to wait for a gap in the traffic – often with better sight lines – and generally involves a single manoeuvre.
On the other hand, reversing out often involves poor sightlines, requires two manoeuvres, is more dangerous and is contrary to the Highway Code
Motoring journalist giving
Motoring journalist giving safe driving tips.. hardly surprising.
It’s very rare that a
It’s very rare that a motoring jurno will advise drivers to exercise caution when interacting with vulnerable road users.
Coming into the office this
Coming into the office this morning, I think I was generally passed better than usual by most motorists.
(That being, said, someone had reversed a large flatbed van up so it could park on the pavement and protected cycle lane on Park Row westbound…).
I would agree the “law-abided
I would agree the “law-abided majority” are probably more aware of how to overtake carefully. Bad drivers (little old man that passed me right before a pinch point and I followed him down the hill to watch him roll through a STOP sign) are still bad drivers and aggresive idiots now feel even more emboldened to be hostile (that’s on the press not the changes to the HC)
Saturday morning I was
Saturday morning I was overtaken on the Sheepway outside of Portishead, by a big white range rover on a blind (high hedges) left curve on the approach to a hump-back bridge. The driver had to swing in sharpish just past me, to avoid going head-on with a double-decker bus (which they’d clearly not been able to see, but neither had I). So it’s not all good.
I think that’s my argument.
I think that’s my argument. That could/would have happened regardless of the changes to the HC. If a few of the “law-abided majority” are already making better decisions as a result of the changes and further awareness campaigns increase that number that’s realistically the best anybody could have hoped for. Bad drivers will still drive badly and haters will still hate.
Interestingly, and I’m sure many will concur, I had several questions about the changes from co-workers last week. It’s not surprising that many of my answers involved telling them what the “old” HC said.
That sort of thing happens
That sort of thing happens every ride in Surrey. Multiple times. Did before the HC changes and will continue to do so. Crap, selfish, irresponsible, dangerous drivers aren’t going to be reading it.
‘large flatbed van’.. that
‘large flatbed van’.. that would seem to be a contradiction in term there.
Large flat bed vans are the
Large flat bed vans are the ones right at the 3.5 t limit which will allow somebody with a B classification to drive. It saves the employer having to pay a higher wage. You can get mini and midi size which are mainly Japanese models. The larger ones tend to be Ford, VW etc.
grOg wrote:
A flatbed lorry with a crew cab (ie. driver-plus-passenger plus a back seat for further passengers). Not an HGV, but not a little van either. I’m sorry, but I didn’t get a note of the VIN.
Strangely I’ve noticed that
Strangely I’ve noticed that Cardiff taxis are now amongst the most courteous of road users.
This has not always been the case.
The biggest taxi firm in Cardiff has also recently introduced internal and external dash cams.
I know correlation is not causation but…
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I think that might be an entirely made-up story.
“No Strava or it did happen”
“No Strava or it did happen” said an angry motorist.
Agreed. The guy was some
Agreed. The guy was some bigwig, so simply not credible that he did not have the alleged episode on dash-cam – otherwise he would have posted it, no?
brooksby wrote:
Say it ain’t so……
Excellent (as usual) piece in
Excellent (as usual) piece in the Guardian by Peter Walker on the Times editorial:
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/bike-blog/2022/jan/31/the-times-editorial-cycling-licences
The article is not helped by
The article is not helped by some unfortunate errors.
Firstly they point out that car drivers cause greater numbers of injuries than do than cyclists, without reference to the huge disparity in numbers of cars versus bicycles on the road.
Secondly they venture into GCSE physics and kinetic energy, with the erroneous understanding that in a collision between two objects the one “imparts” all its kinetic energy to the other.
We need articles from the MSM friendly towards cyclists, but they need to be well argued. If they are going to accuse the other side of “intellectual howlers” they’d do well to up their own game first.
I’m trying to track down some
I’m trying to track down some stats on RLJ related injuries, did you post something in a thread a few weeks ago?
Can’t unfortunately find it on a Google search and no decent road.cc search function but seem to remember it was you who posted it originally?
that Chantelle is a little
that Chantelle is a little charmer. And bright as a button too.
her social class is higher
her social class is higher than her IQ..
The refusal to let cars
The refusal to let cars overtake for 8 miles- where to start with that?
at 15mph average speed it would take 32 minutes to cover that distance. Who the heck wants a car behind them for half an hour?
Northumber_lad wrote:
I once had a driver behind me for over two minutes. She was well back, there were plenty of opportunities to pass (the road in the industrial park is so wide she could have passed me safely without crossing the center) and I even tried waving her past twice. “What a nice driver” I thought, even though I’d have preferred it if she passed me.
As I turned at the next light, she pulled alongside me, rolled down her window, and, face livid, shouted “you need to find a bike lane.”
The road she refused to pass me on is officially part of my city’s bike network, and is signposted as such. The only reason for a motorist to use it is to bypass two traffic lights. I told her what I thought she needed to do.
That anecdote tweet no doubt
That anecdote tweet no doubt originated from a troll stirring the pot.. anyone in the media that takes notice of an unverifiable piece of nonsense is a clown.
“I was stuck behind this
“I was stuck behind this cyclist for hours” claimed Sophie from Swindon “Waving my arms around and he just grinned.”
Going by media input, it
Going by media input, it would appear that those on the left are pro cycling and those on the right are anti cycling; I’d be interested in a debate on why this is so.
grOg wrote:
I think it’s just the ones shouting the loudest thankfully.
grOg wrote:
Left v Right might be oversimplification ir lead to polarisation or lazy use of stereotypes.
Perhaps consider democratisation v authoritarianism? This piece by Julian Sayerer from 2017 is an interesting read:
https://www.howwegettonext.com/the-most-subversive-way-to-travel/
His chat on Carlton Reid’s podcast about his experiences in Israel/Palestine was quite an eye-opener too.
You don’t have to be ‘right wing’ to be anti-cycling, just believe the diatribes in the MSM, add in some fake outrage from social media and you can easily become a hardened cyclist-hater. It’s what they have been doing to other out-groups for centuries.
Ooh is it multi-dimensional
Ooh is it multi-dimensional graph time again (from https://electowiki.org/wiki/Political_spectrum)?
Simon E wrote:
Agreed. I’m right wing, but don’t feel the highway code changes go far enough in the cyclist’s favour. And quite frankly the media fuelling the war on the roads need fining each time they do it…There’s reporting news, and there’s manufacturing it…
Simon E wrote:
Have you read his book about cycling in Israel and Palestine?
Yep. Very much agree with
Yep. Very much agree with this.