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Horrified bike shop shares photos of battered “single speed… maybe” bicycle (@trench_tales)
Horrified bike shop shares photos of battered "single speed.. (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

“That saddle has stories to tell”: Horrified bike shop would “really rather not find out” if battered “single speed… maybe with multiple cadence options” still works; Pogačar skinsuitgate + more on the live blog

These sunny post-bank holiday mid-Giro four-day weeks are quite nice, aren’t they? Dan Alexander is on live blog duty again today for all your news, reaction and more
  • by Dan Alexander
Wed, May 08, 2024 08:28
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SUMMARY

  • Make it make sense... Tadej Pogačar threatened with disqualification from Giro d'Italia over Castelli's maglia rosa skinsuit
  • Filippo Ganna's 590w for 3:30 + Jonathan Milan's 1,940w sprint... there's no lack of power over at the Giro d'Italia
  • Debates around tougher legislation for cyclists front and centre of broadcast and print media coverage
  • "I'll see you in the winter": Zwift accused of "taking subscribers for granted" as monthly subscription rises from £12.99 to £17.99 – but company says price hike "necessary" for platform's development
  • POLL: Will you keep your Zwift subscription now the price is increasing?
  • What's Tadej wearing today?
  • Iain Duncan Smith calls for creation of "causing death by dangerous, careless, or inconsiderate cycling" law
  • Pedestrian jailed for manslaughter over cyclist's death has conviction overturned
  • British Cycling gym record broken as Matt Rotherham squats 250kg
  • Britain’s strictest cycling ban strikes again!
  • Bravery rewarded as Benjamin Thomas best of four-man escape on Giro's fifth stage
  • Why don’t cyclists use the cycle lane? Errr, because there’s a great big zebra crossing pole right in the middle of it
  • "That saddle has stories to tell": Horrified bike shop would "really rather not find out" if battered "single speed... maybe with multiple cadence options" still works
Horrified bike shop shares photos of battered “single speed… maybe” bicycle (@trench_tales)
Horrified bike shop shares photos of battered "single speed.. (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
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8 May 2024, 08:28

Make it make sense... Tadej Pogačar threatened with disqualification from Giro d'Italia over Castelli's maglia rosa skinsuit

Just another bizarre chapter in the history of professional cycling, the Giro d’Italia’s leader Tadej Pogačar yesterday reverted to black shorts after the UCI threatened him with disqualification from the race over an alleged infringement to the governing body’s rules to do with the colour of his skinsuit… yes, that’s the race leader’s skinsuit, made by Castelli, not even his own team’s kit.

Tadej Pogačar shorts Giro d'Italia (Eurosport)
Tadej Pogačar shorts Giro d'Italia (Eurosport) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Tadej Pogačar shorts Giro d'Italia (Eurosport)
Tadej Pogačar shorts Giro d'Italia (Eurosport) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Contrary to some suggestions, the shorts area wasn’t the same colour as the points classification ciclamino, seen here on Filippo Fiorelli before stage three, but in fact granata in tribute to the Torino football team killed in the Superga air disaster on 4 May 1949, of which the 75th anniversary just passed as the race began in Turin on Saturday.

Tadej Pogačar Giro d'Italia 2024 (Zac Williams/SWpix.com)
SWpix (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Tadej Pogačar Giro d'Italia 2024 (Zac Williams/SWpix.com)
SWpix (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

[Zac Williams/SWpix.com]

UCI commissaires are believed to have got involved, arguing the skinsuit is in breach of the governing body’s rules due to the different colour shorts area to the jersey, and UAE Team Emirates and Pogačar reverted to black team-issue shorts (no skinsuit) for stage four.

A slower kit than a skinsuit, both provided by the race’s partner Castelli and not his team’s kit manufacturer Pissei, but apparently now abiding by the UCI’s rules and not at risk of being chucked out of the race the organisers reportedly paid a hefty fee to get him to attend. Cycling’s weird.

8 May 2024, 08:28

Filippo Ganna's 590w for 3:30 + Jonathan Milan's 1,940w sprint... there's no lack of power over at the Giro d'Italia

Filippo Ganna’s individual pursuit simulation on the roads to Andora yesterday was 590w average power for three minutes 35 seconds, with an average speed of 52.9km/h… an attack which began with a kilometre of uphill. The Ineos Grenadiers rider’s max for the attack was 1,620w, which just so happens to be the average power of stage winner Jonathan Milan’s 20-second blitz. Just look at that max power…

Horse power 🐎🐎 @GannaFilippo @MilanJonathan_ pic.twitter.com/msVHsP4U7E

— Elia Viviani (@eliaviviani) May 8, 2024

Stage five today, from Genoa to Lucca is not dissimilar to yesterday’s, almost identical vertical gain (just north of 2,000m over 178km) and front-loaded with climbs to test the sprinters’ legs and see if any team wants to make things difficult. On paper, the climbing looks tougher, so maybe the breakaway opportunists will fancy their chances? The problem? 117km of flat or downhill to finish, punctuated by just one three-kilometre lump at 20km to go. 

He did the business for the live blog prediction yesterday, so Milan for me again today…

8 May 2024, 08:28

Debates around tougher legislation for cyclists front and centre of broadcast and print media coverage

Newspaper column inches and airtime of TV and radio talk shows is being put to cycling this week, specifically calls for cyclists to be subject to stricter legislation. We’ll have more on that later, campaigners and politicians have made a renewed argument for changes to the law, but The Times, The Telegraph, Times Radio, Good Morning Britain and Talk TV have all got involved in the past 24 hours.

It all comes after the news story from the bank holiday weekend, a coroner’s inquest told that no charges will be brought against a cyclist who was riding laps of London’s Regent’s Park when he crashed into a pensioner, causing her fatal injuries.

Outer Circle near Hanover Terrace (via Google Street View)
Outer Circle near Hanover Terrace (via Google Street View) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Outer Circle near Hanover Terrace (via Google Street View)
Outer Circle near Hanover Terrace (via Google Street View) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

> No charges brought against Regent’s Park cyclist after high-speed crash in which pensioner was killed while crossing road

This was the scene in Regent’s Park this morning.

Speed guns and long lens cameras in Regents Park this morning. What are the press up to? 🤦🏾‍♂️ pic.twitter.com/QpoMsdpTk4

— Merv Charles (@mervcharles) May 8, 2024

Meanwhile, on Good Morning Britain this morning, long-time campaigner for ‘dangerous cycling’ laws Matthew Briggs (husband of Kim Briggs, killed by cyclist Charlie Alliston who was sentenced to 18 months’ detention in a youth offenders facility after being convicted by a jury at the Old Bailey of “causing bodily harm by wanton and furious driving” in connection with her death when she was struck as she crossed London’s Old Street) was joined by the son of the woman who died of her injuries caused in the Regent’s Park collision, as they both appealed for stronger legislation against dangerous cycling.

‘People are surprised to know that cycling is a lawless activity when it comes to the Road Traffic Act’

Families of victims of speeding cyclists demand action for a ‘dangerous cycling’ law. pic.twitter.com/hevRH8jOlK

— Good Morning Britain (@GMB) May 8, 2024

CyclingMikey too appeared on Times Radio in the past hour following an opinion piece, titled ‘Cycling used to be cool. Now, too many bike riders are jerks’, being published in the newspaper.

I’m about to go on Times Radio at 10:50 to debate against Robert Crampton who wrote this article:https://t.co/yGDBMaqzlm

What would you like to say about it? pic.twitter.com/WHmA2YjNsm

— CyclingMikey the Unspeakable (@MikeyCycling) May 8, 2024

8 May 2024, 08:28

"I'll see you in the winter": Zwift accused of "taking subscribers for granted" as monthly subscription rises from £12.99 to £17.99 – but company says price hike "necessary" for platform's development

2024 Zwift summer update
2024 Zwift summer update (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
2024 Zwift summer update
2024 Zwift summer update (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

> “I’ll see you in the winter”: Zwift accused of “taking subscribers for granted” as monthly subscription rises from £12.99 to £17.99 – but company says price hike “necessary” for platform’s development

8 May 2024, 08:28

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8 May 2024, 08:28

What's Tadej wearing today?

…ahem

💗 It’s Tadej Focacciar #GirodItalia pic.twitter.com/9LW1yWtU1R

— Giro d’Italia (@giroditalia) May 8, 2024

Race leader’s jersey, team-issue Pissei shorts (the same colour as maglia rosa to please the UCI), no skinsuit, no rogue colours, sock length checked. Everyone happy?

8 May 2024, 08:28

Iain Duncan Smith calls for creation of "causing death by dangerous, careless, or inconsiderate cycling" law

Cyclist and Palace of Westminster (copyright Simon MacMichael)
Cyclist and Palace of Westminster (copyright Simon MacMichael) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Cyclist and Palace of Westminster (copyright Simon MacMichael)
Cyclist and Palace of Westminster (copyright Simon MacMichael) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

> Iain Duncan Smith calls for creation of “causing death by dangerous, careless, or inconsiderate cycling” law

8 May 2024, 08:28

Pedestrian jailed for manslaughter over cyclist's death has conviction overturned

Celia Ward falls into path of car after being confronted by Auriol Grey (via Cambridgeshire Constabulary and BBC News)
Celia Ward falls into path of car after being confronted by Auriol Grey (via Cambridgeshire Constabulary and BBC News) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Celia Ward falls into path of car after being confronted by Auriol Grey (via Cambridgeshire Constabulary and BBC News)
Celia Ward falls into path of car after being confronted by Auriol Grey (via Cambridgeshire Constabulary and BBC News) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

> Pedestrian jailed for manslaughter over cyclist’s death has conviction overturned

8 May 2024, 08:28

British Cycling gym record broken as Matt Rotherham squats 250kg

Track cyclist Matt Rotherham has squated a quarter of a tonne, breaking the British Cycling gym record in the process.

 
 
 
 
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A post shared by Matt Rotherham / Track Cyclist (@bigrothers)

Fair play to the cameraman for maintaining such stable camerawork despite being attacked by a wasp midway through the rep. Here’s the lucky SystemSix that gets to put up with all that power when Matt rides on the road.

 
 
 
 
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A post shared by Matt Rotherham / Track Cyclist (@bigrothers)

Perfect timing considering we took a deep dive into the model for our Bike at Bedtime last night. Can what was billed as “the world’s fastest road bike” still cut it? 

8 May 2024, 08:28

Britain’s strictest cycling ban strikes again!

Victoria_Street_West,_Grimsby_-_DSC07296.JPG
Victoria_Street_West,_Grimsby_-_DSC07296 (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Victoria_Street_West,_Grimsby_-_DSC07296.JPG
Victoria_Street_West,_Grimsby_-_DSC07296 (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

> Two cyclists ordered to pay £500 for riding bike through town centre, as councillor says local authority “will not simply look the other way” and that cyclists “have been rightly punished”

8 May 2024, 08:28

Bravery rewarded as Benjamin Thomas best of four-man escape on Giro's fifth stage

Sprint stage? It should have been, however a four-up attack by Benjamin Thomas, Michael Valgren, Andrea Pietrobon and Enzo Paleni upset the sprinters with a gutsy move late in the day.

Despite some franctic scrambling by the teams with sprint specialists, the quartet had a fairly comfortable gap heading into the closing kilometres, Pietrobon almost pulling off an audacious late attack having sat on for the previous turns. 

However, it was Thomas, the rider whose acceleration kicked the whole move off, who got the final say, powering past Valgren in the final 100m for Cofidis’ first win of 2024, but proving it’s all about perspective. A first win in eight months is the glass half-empty slant, a third consecutive Grand Tour with a stage win and four at their last three participations the more positive spin on things.

Here’s the finish in all its thrilling glory…

💨 A breathtaking affair in Lucca, where the breakaway managed to hold off the peloton, and a sprint where everything was left on the table

⏪ The @Continentaltire Ultimo Kilometro ⤵️#GirodItalia | #Continental #ContinentalItalia #SafetySponsorOfTheRoad pic.twitter.com/wcdiHfNn23

— Giro d’Italia (@giroditalia) May 8, 2024

The day had begun with Alpecin-Deceuninck pulling hard on the climbs to drop some of the sprinters less gifted on the uphill gradients. Fabio Jakobsen, Tim Merlier, Fernando Gaviria and Caleb Ewan all found themselves chasing back to the peloton.

Ahead of the final climb a crash brought down numerous riders including Michael Woods and Tobias Foss, by that point alarm bells starting to ring for Lidl-Trek, the only sprint team attempting to pull back the escape. While the others tried to play it cool and let the team of yesterday’s dominant winner Jonathan Milan’s wear themselves out, they all soon piled to the front of the peloton to help, but as riders came and went the gap to the attackers remained consistent.

Pietrobon the only rider to begin to play games, a committed run in to Lucca seeing all four escape the peloton, Thomas leading Valgren, the Team Polti Kometa Italian and Enzo Paleni home. Behind, Milan asserted himself as the strongest sprinter once again, beating Ewan, Phil Bauhaus, Olav Kooij and Merlier. No changes on GC. Tomorrow it’s time to hit the gravel…

8 May 2024, 08:28

Why don’t cyclists use the cycle lane? Errr, because there’s a great big zebra crossing pole right in the middle of it

Crossing pole in middle of cycle lane, Salisbury (Happy Salisbury, X)
Crossing pole in middle of cycle lane, Salisbury (Happy Salisbury, X) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Crossing pole in middle of cycle lane, Salisbury (Happy Salisbury, X)
Crossing pole in middle of cycle lane, Salisbury (Happy Salisbury, X) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

> “They would never leave a pole in the middle of the road, so why is it acceptable to do so on a cycleway?” Cyclists slam “poor planning” as new bike lane built right into path of zebra crossing pole

8 May 2024, 08:28

"That saddle has stories to tell": Horrified bike shop would "really rather not find out" if battered "single speed... maybe with multiple cadence options" still works

We’ll have to get this in for Stu or one of the team to review… introducing Trench Tales Instagram account’s latest mind-boggling example of bicycle abuse… it’s a single speed (but maybe with multiple cadence options)…

 
 
 
 
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A post shared by trench_tales (@trench_tales)

Have a flick through the photos and that grimace on your face will become more pronounced with every click, the lack of derailleur, the dropouts just about clinging on, the saddle, the tyres… as the long-suffering mechanics behind Trench Tales told their followers (who you should join the ranks of for more ‘your bike hates you’ content direct to your Insta feed): “Single speed… maybe with multiple cadence options? With those flimsy, flaring dropouts, I’d really rather not find out. Also… sweet saddle.”

Horrified bike shop shares photos of battered "single speed... maybe" bicycle (@trench_tales)
Horrified bike shop shares photos of battered "single speed.. (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Horrified bike shop shares photos of battered "single speed... maybe" bicycle (@trench_tales)
Horrified bike shop shares photos of battered "single speed.. (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Naturally, the comments brought us some comic relief in this sad tale of neglect.

great_hoof: “I’d say the removal of derailleurs is the best thing going for that bike.”

boldwon: “That saddle has stories to tell.”

rbicilife: “Her Highness the Imperial Mess.”

A bit of WD40 and some new brake pads and it’ll be as good as new… maybe… probably not…

Horrified bike shop shares photos of battered "single speed... maybe" bicycle (@trench_tales)
Horrified bike shop shares photos of battered "single speed.. (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Horrified bike shop shares photos of battered "single speed... maybe" bicycle (@trench_tales)
Horrified bike shop shares photos of battered "single speed.. (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Trench Tales does the noble job of documenting bicycle abuse so the rest of us remember to take better care of our bikes. You wouldn’t want to end up the butt of internet jokes, would you?

The rust might not be as prominent as the famous Tetanus Express that made us wince last year…

Rusty bike (@trench_tales/Instagram)
Instagram) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Rusty bike (@trench_tales/Instagram)
Instagram) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Nor the rubber quite as worn as the impossibly worn tyre that earned bike shop visitor a standing ovation from mechanics… after he only came in “for a tube”…

Worn tyre (@trench_tales/Instagram)
Instagram) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Worn tyre (@trench_tales/Instagram)
Instagram) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

But having to change gear by manoeuvring the chain using your fingers, while moving, if the rear wheel doesn’t just fall out the dropouts first, earns this poor bicycle a place in our live blog pantheon of mechanical misery. Alternatively, maybe it works really well and we’ll soon all be doing it in the search of weight savings and less maintenance… hmmmm, maybe…

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50 thoughts on ““That saddle has stories to tell”: Horrified bike shop would “really rather not find out” if battered “single speed… maybe with multiple cadence options” still works; Pogačar skinsuitgate + more on the live blog”

  1. Oldfatgit
    May 8, 2024 at 9:39 am
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    Shit state bikes … nothing
    Shit state bikes … nothing to be proud of, a liability to the rider and a danger to the rest of us.

    Hit someone with a bike in an unroadworthy state and any Public Liability insurance provider is likely to walk away.

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    • ChrisA
      May 8, 2024 at 1:08 pm
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      Ffs, a large number of people

      Ffs, a large number of people use bikes (as with cars) as a tool to get from A to B.  They’re not precious shiny toys.  Many people can’t afford to spend hundreds (thousands !!! ?) on their bike; it’s makedo and mend.  If the derailleur can’t be fixed, it gets removed. Yes the tyres could probably do with replacing & the inside of the rims checked to see how far the tin worm has got. But if the brakes brake & the steering steers it is probably ok pootling along the road. 

      Many people don’t have, or can afford, insurance of any kind (assuming that, if they ride this bike they can’t afford a car; for which they do need insurance).

      I really don’t think we need to run down the road screaming “we’re all going to die” at this point.

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      • ChrisA
        May 8, 2024 at 1:15 pm
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        I’m more impressed by the

        I’m more impressed by the people who take these bikes give them a polish (ie. replace those parts that need replacing) and supply them to people who need them; than the omg brigade.

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      • KDee
        May 8, 2024 at 1:26 pm
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        It’s been a while since I

        It’s been a while since I bought insurance in the UK, but here in NL, 92% of adults have liability insurance. Mine is included with my home contents insurance. Is it not included with home insurance in the UK?

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        • ChrisA
          May 8, 2024 at 1:44 pm
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          It can be, but as I said,

          It can be, but as I said, there are many people who can’t afford (or who choose not to have) any kind of insurance.

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          • Dnnnnnn
            May 8, 2024 at 2:32 pm
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            ChrisA wrote:

            It can be, but as I said, there are many people who can’t afford (or who choose not to have) any kind of insurance.

            — ChrisA

            Cyclists’ PLI is available for a couple of £ per month – while there will be  people who can’t afford that, I suspect the vast majority without it just haven’t bothered (more likely because they haven’t thought about it than actively opted not to).

          • KDee
            May 8, 2024 at 2:35 pm
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            That is a good point. I

            That is a good point. I rented here for about 18 months before buying a place, and didn’t bother with home insurance…apartment was rented fully furnished anyway.

        • OnYerBike
          May 8, 2024 at 2:04 pm
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          Yes, most (all?) home

          Yes, most (all?) home insurance policies would include public liability insurance. But whilst most home owners have such an insurance policy, many renters will not, so that’s a substantial portion of the population without insurance.

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      • andystow
        May 8, 2024 at 2:10 pm
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        ChrisA wrote:

        Ffs, a large number of people use bikes (as with cars) as a tool to get from A to B.  They’re not precious shiny toys.  Many people can’t afford to spend hundreds (thousands !!! ?) on their bike; it’s makedo and mend.  If the derailleur can’t be fixed, it gets removed. Yes the tyres could probably do with replacing & the inside of the rims checked to see how far the tin worm has got. But if the brakes brake & the steering steers it is probably ok pootling along the road. 

        Many people don’t have, or can afford, insurance of any kind (assuming that, if they ride this bike they can’t afford a car; for which they do need insurance).

        I really don’t think we need to run down the road screaming “we’re all going to die” at this point.

        — ChrisA

        I have a friend who has her rear canti brake cable disconnected. Apparently it rubs the wheel if reconnected. She’s a single mom and doesn’t have a lot of money. I’ve offered multiple times to fix it, but she seems happy with just a front brake. She knows I’m competent as I’ve done lots of other work for her before on her house, car, lawnmower, etc. for free or for a six pack.

        One night we had biked to the same event, and I took advantage of the opportunity when leaving before her to hook the cable up and adjust the tension screws to recentre them. They seemed to operate properly, and I went home. The next day she asked me if I’d done it, because she noticed on the way home that the bike felt really slow and she found the brake hooked up and dragging.

        Now I just passive agressively mention when we’re on a ride that I hope today isn’t the day her front brake fails. Fortunately she’s a slow and careful rider, but she’s over sixty and won’t do well even in a minor crash.

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      • brooksby
        May 8, 2024 at 2:40 pm
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        ChrisA wrote:

        Ffs, a large number of people use bikes (as with cars) as a tool to get from A to B.  They’re not precious shiny toys.

        — ChrisA

        My commuter is in for a service.  The LBS asked whether I wanted the front brake noodle replacing as it was very rusty – I said check if the rust in on the inside and affecting the cable movement: if not, don’t bother.  I’m more concerned on whether it works properly than how well it looks.

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  2. JohnnyEnglish
    May 8, 2024 at 10:07 am
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    The way the story on Pogacar

    The way the story on Pogacar’s skin suit is written makes no sense at all.

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    • quiff
      May 8, 2024 at 10:11 am
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      JohnnyEnglish wrote:

      The way the story on Pogacar’s skin suit is written makes no sense at all.

      — JohnnyEnglish

      To be fair, I think (as the writer says) it’s the underlying story that makes no sense – UCI threatens to sanction race leader for colour of skinsuit which was provided by race organisers. 

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      • JohnnyEnglish
        May 8, 2024 at 10:13 am
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        Still confused. Why would the

        Still confused. Why would the pink jersey revert to black?

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        • quiff
          May 8, 2024 at 10:17 am
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          The jersey stayed pink. But

          The jersey stayed pink. But the bottom half reverted to black, instead of the purple shade that had been made to honour the victims of the plane crash.

          The maglia nera on the other hand is (or was?) to the Giro as the Lanterne Rouge is to the Tour.

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          • JohnnyEnglish
            May 8, 2024 at 10:22 am
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            Thanks for trying to clarify.

            Thanks for trying to clarify.

          • Dan Alexander
            May 8, 2024 at 10:29 am
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            Sorry should have clarified

            Sorry should have clarified the *shorts part* of the skinsuit, not the top half is the UCI’s issue, I see what you mean…

            The UCI thinks it all should be the same colour as the leader’s jersey as per its rules (“The wearer of the leader’s jersey shall be entitled to match the colour of his shorts to that of the jersey”) so he could wear team shorts or pink shorts matching the maglia rosa colour.

            It’s all a bit messy though because does a skinsuit have shorts or is it one item of clothing? Does anyone care enough to argue? You might also ask why I didn’t just mention all that in the post earlier…

          • quiff
            May 8, 2024 at 10:44 am
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            I can’t believe I’ve gone

            I can’t believe I’ve gone down this rabbit hole but, in addition, the UCI Jersey Guidelines for a skinsuit (p116) divide it into two zones – basically the team sponsor panels and the organiser zone. For the organiser zone, it says “the organiser is free of use any design and color for this zone”. So perhaps the argument is that it doesn’t say colours, plural and so should be all pink – but that would scupper the polka dot KOM jerseys.  

      • OnYerBike
        May 8, 2024 at 10:38 am
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        The underlying story

        The underlying story certainly has elements that are confusing, but I must agree with JohnnyEnglish that the way it has been reported here is exponentially more confusing. 

        But yes, as far as I can tell the story is:

        Pogacar, as current General Classification leader, was wearing the race leader skinsuit provided by the event organiser’s kit supplier (Castelli). This is traditionally pink.

        The bottom half of the skin suit was not pink. The UCI objected to this.

        There had been speculation that the objection was due to potential confusion with the “ciclamino” (mauve) kit allocated to the current Points Classification leader, but that was not the case. Instead, the colour was described as “granata” (pomegranate?), and was intended as a tribute to the disaster mentioned.

        The objection appears to have been that kits are required to either be a uniform colour (i.e. all pink), or else be pink on the top and with plain black lower half.

        So, to comply with the rules, Pogacar was provided with a pink jersey and black shorts (again, provided by the event organiser’s supplier, Castelli).

        The UAE Team Emirates’ kit supplier, Pissei, were not involved.

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        • Dan Alexander
          May 8, 2024 at 10:45 am
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          ? I’ll send you the log-ins

          ? I’ll send you the logins and you can take over after lunch (although it looks like the black shorts were standard team-issue Pissei)

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          • KDee
            May 8, 2024 at 2:34 pm
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            How do you pronounce “Pissei”

            How do you pronounce “Pissei”?

  3. brooksby
    May 8, 2024 at 11:06 am
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    What is going on with the

    What is going on with the tyres on that Trench Tales bike?

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  4. Clem Fandango
    May 8, 2024 at 11:45 am
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    So when is breakfast/daytime

    So when is breakfast/daytime TV / MSM going to be “debating” the number of KSIs inflicted on us by drivers?   Asking for a friend.

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    • brooksby
      May 8, 2024 at 12:02 pm
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      I still don’t really

      I still don’t really understand what Matthew Briggs wants… Hung, drawn, and quartered, maybe?  Alliston got 18 months for something that wouldn’t have even made the news if he’d been driving a car.  You can’t say that “cyclists are outside the law”, on that evidence.

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      • Clem Fandango
        May 8, 2024 at 12:14 pm
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        Exactly.  

        Exactly.  

        Any death on our transport network is a tragedy, it just boils my p!ss that pretty much any incident that involves someone on a bike being involved in the death of a pedestrian makes headline news and generates hours and hours of culture war ammunition… sorry I mean “debate”.  Whereas anyone else killed by a car driver is just acceptable collateral damage and not newsworthy.  Who cares if dangerous driving is socially acceptable, under policed and sentencing scandalously weak?  If you are going to report it, just frame it as “who’s to blame? (nudge nudge, the cyclist innit)” – that’s quality journalism!

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        • chrisonabike
          May 8, 2024 at 12:20 pm
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          Just “man bites dog” though?

          It’s always tempting to see “enemy action” but perhaps just “man bites dog” though?

          It’s not just that it’s very rare (so newsworthy) – it’s a threatening upset to the usual order.  High salience.

          So it’s “who are these cyclists?  How many are there?  How long have they been killing pedestrians – and what are the police / the government doing about it?”  (Clearly the people asking immediately see there are themselves, their friends etc. and then dangerous cyclists, over there).

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          • Clem Fandango
            May 8, 2024 at 12:29 pm
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            But the way the meeja goes

            But the way the meeja goes about it is totally irresponsible and it has damaging consequences (he says having reported 3 egregious close passes and some verbal abuse from a single ride at the weekend).  

            And another thing.  I got bitten by a dog last summer.  It’s never happened to me before.  Why was I not booked to appear on Good Morning?  Tougher sentencing for four pawed, fur clad vermin I say! 

            Then again, I am a cyclist so it was probably my fault.

          • Backladder
            May 8, 2024 at 3:26 pm
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            Clem Fandango wrote:

             

            And another thing.  I got bitten by a dog last summer.  It’s never happened to me before.  Why was I not booked to appear on Good Morning?  Tougher sentencing for four pawed, fur clad vermin I say! 

            — Clem Fandango

            You just need to bite it back (preferably with photos or video) and you’ll be the star guest on Jacob Rees-Moggie’s show (until he finds out you’re a cyclist).

          • chrisonabike
            May 8, 2024 at 3:43 pm
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            Clem Fandango wrote:

            And another thing.  I got bitten by a dog last summer.  It’s never happened to me before. […]

            — Clem Fandango

            Bloody immigrant canines, coming over here from (*checks history*) the continent in small boats* , expecting handouts and biting hard-working families…

            * In the early Neolithic.  Or maybe on foot via Doggerland?

          • Clem Fandango
            May 8, 2024 at 5:04 pm
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            These days mate, if you say
            These days mate, if you say you’re a motorist you get arrested and thrown in prison.

          • chrisonabike
            May 8, 2024 at 7:46 pm
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            Now now!  Stiff upper lip. 

            Now now!  Stiff upper lip, man.  Don’t you know there’s a war on? [1] – and an [accidental backhanded complement from Welsh Conservatives]

      • chrisonabike
        May 8, 2024 at 12:29 pm
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        I have no idea.  Maybe in

        I know … I have no idea.  Maybe in part “stuck in a moment he can’t get out of”?  Or taking meaning and personal motivation out of a tragedy by devotion to “fixing the problem”?

        Examples from “the other side of the fence” exist – I’m thinking of one of the proponents of the Dutch “Stop de Kindermoord” movement [1] [2].  (The minister of transport at the time had also lost a son in a road collision apparently.  Perhaps the notion of “let the mighty be afflicted also, that they may understand” applies?)

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      • ChrisA
        May 8, 2024 at 12:49 pm
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        If I remember correctly, Mrs

        If I remember correctly, Mrs Briggs also stepped into the road without looking. If Alliston had been riding a legal bike, would there have been a case to answer?

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        • quiff
          May 8, 2024 at 12:53 pm
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          Possibly – see Robert

          Possibly – see Robert Hazeldean

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          • ChrisA
            May 8, 2024 at 1:28 pm
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            That was a civil case, though

            That was a civil case, though and they are very much a lottery.

      • hawkinspeter
        May 8, 2024 at 12:54 pm
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        brooksby wrote:

        I still don’t really understand what Matthew Briggs wants… Hung, drawn, and quartered, maybe?  Alliston got 18 months for something that wouldn’t have even made the news if he’d been driving a car.  You can’t say that “cyclists are outside the law”, on that evidence.

        — brooksby

        I suspect that he’s being manipulated by malign forces that seek to discredit cyclists and LTNs etc. Probably some part of the Tory Death Cultists.

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      • BalladOfStruth
        May 8, 2024 at 1:13 pm
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        brooksby wrote:

        Alliston got 18 months for something that wouldn’t have even made the news if he’d been driving a car.

        — brooksby

        If Alliston had been driving a car at 2/3 of the speed limit when a ped stepped out in front of him, there’s zero chance he would have spent a day in prison, faulty brakes or no. If anything, Matthew Briggs has only drawn attention to how disproportionatley harshly cyclists are often treated in court.

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        • wycombewheeler
          May 8, 2024 at 2:52 pm
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          BalladOfStruth wrote:

          Alliston got 18 months for something that wouldn’t have even made the news if he’d been driving a car.

          — BalladOfStruth

          If Alliston had been driving a car at 2/3 of the speed limit when a ped stepped out in front of him, there’s zero chance he would have spent a day in prison, faulty brakes or no. If anything, Matthew Briggs has only drawn attention to how disproportionatley harshly cyclists are often treated in court.

          — brooksby

          only cyclists can see that. The media are still telling everyone else that Alliston got away due to lack of death by dangerous cycling laws.

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    • mitsky
      May 8, 2024 at 3:06 pm
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      When Covid lockdown kicked

      When Covid lockdown kicked off, we were getting daily updates in the news about hospitalisations and deaths.

      Would be good if the media could report on daily and cumulative injuries and deaths by motorists along with reports on court results about prosecutions…

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  5. BalladOfStruth
    May 8, 2024 at 1:09 pm
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    Anyone mentioned this yet?

    Anyone mentioned this yet?

    On the topic of devious, murderous cyclists, apparently pushing one under a moving car is totally fine now.

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    • brooksby
      May 8, 2024 at 1:13 pm
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      O. M. F. G. 

      O. M. F. G. 

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      • BalladOfStruth
        May 8, 2024 at 1:39 pm
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        Indeed. I’m so glad Martin

        Indeed. I’m so glad Martin got himself banned because he’d be fucking insufferable at this news.

        I’m furious at this, because from the videos we saw at the time, Grey’s “aggressive gesticulation” was actually sweeping blow that almost definitely made contact with Ward and is what put her under the car. Even if it wasn’t, Ward’s attempt to evade it did. Either way, this result is disgusting.

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    • NotNigel
      May 8, 2024 at 1:16 pm
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      Was going to comment that it

      Was going to comment that it’s a shame the same level of compassion from the media can’t be shared with the victim of this.

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    • Clem Fandango
      May 8, 2024 at 7:39 pm
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      In look forward to Mr

      I look forward to Mr Loophole calling for registered tabards for pedestrians & the making of new laws to address “hostile gesticulation”

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  6. Mr Hoopdriver
    May 8, 2024 at 1:21 pm
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    “Instead a huge cultural

    “Instead a huge cultural reset is required, and it should be initiated within the cycling fraternity.’

    Cool eh.

    I thought there was a war on motorists.

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    • ROOTminus1
      May 8, 2024 at 3:46 pm
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      Perversely to what they were
      Perversely to what they were intending, this sounds like a call to revolution.
      Sod the pitchforks folks, grab those chain locks, brake disks and flat pedals, we storm the barricades at dawn.

      Apologies! They weren’t barricades, just queues of vehicles stuck in traffic

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      • Backladder
        May 8, 2024 at 8:07 pm
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        ROOTminus1 wrote:

        Perversely to what they were intending, this sounds like a call to revolution. Sod the pitchforks folks, grab those chain locks, brake disks and flat pedals, we storm the barricades at dawn. Apologies! They weren’t barricades, just queues of vehicles stuck in traffic

        — ROOTminus1

        I think queues of traffic might be very vulnerable to a cyclist swinging a U-lock at their windows! Bring on the revolution!

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  7. dubwise
    May 8, 2024 at 1:33 pm
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    The UCI make Polis Scotland
    The UCI make Polis Scotland look almost competent.

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    • lesterama
      May 8, 2024 at 1:38 pm
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      Of their many, many

      Of their many, many incompetent decisions, I’ll never forgive them for banning my nearly-new pursuit bike after Lugano.

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      • Backladder
        May 8, 2024 at 3:19 pm
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        lesterama wrote:

        Of their many, many incompetent decisions, I’ll never forgive them for banning my nearly-new pursuit bike after Lugano.

        — lesterama

        My peeve was when they made me tape over the SIDI logo on my brand new shoes because the classed it as “advertising” and would have declared me a professional if I didnt!

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  8. Velophaart_95
    May 8, 2024 at 2:09 pm
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    UCI as amateur as ever…….

    UCI as amateur as ever………and in 2024, what sport forces riders to wear the organisers kit? Ridiculous…..and from another era that needs binning off.

    I imagine the UCI come out in a cold sweat looking at other sports kits……..

     

    Just let teams wear their own kit and end this nonsense.

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Latest Comments

Sredlums 7 hours ago

@Rendel Harris You know damn well what I mean, Rendel. The bikes here are just a nice angle to make their point about how tech has changed over the years. They could have easily used two other bikes for exactly the same purpose. They chose these because they already had an article that looked at the old bike in depth, and because Seixas' bike is new. You keep cherry-picking, to try to win this silly argument on semantics, but the intro actually says it quite clearly: "We compare Jaan Kirsipuu’s early-2000s AG2R race bike with Paul Seixas’ latest machine TO CHART A QUARTER OF A CENTURY OF TECH PROGRESS". The article is not ABOUT these bikes, it USES these bikes to illustrate that tech progress, hence, the article is about that tech progress.

in: Paul Seixas’ unreleased Van Rysel shows just how far Decathlon’s Tour de France bikes have come in 25 years
Rendel Harris 7 hours ago

@Sreedlums That's hilarious, the article is literally about two Decathlon Tour de France bikes and comparing them. It says that everywhere, in the headline, in the subhead, in the body text. It says it's "a good excuse to look back at how Decathlon’s top-level race bikes have changed over the last 25 years", how on earth can you get from that to "this article was *not* about these two bikes"? Go on swearing black is white all you want, but you are totally wrong.

in: Paul Seixas’ unreleased Van Rysel shows just how far Decathlon’s Tour de France bikes have come in 25 years
whosatthewheel 8 hours ago

@Sriracha They have got what makes bicycles be recognized by the public as bicycles, and what motorbikes haven't got - pedals, that's why.

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Sredlums 8 hours ago

@Rendel Harris Oh wait, so now the article is only about Decathlon's TdF bikes? Because that's in the headline? That's funny, because in your previous comment you said "I think if you look really hard you can see this is an article about how Tour de France bikes have changed",. So, which is it? You can keep cherry-picking snippets of text, but it doesn't change the fact that this article was *not* about these two bikes, nor was it about TdF bikes. This article took these two bikes as examples of top road bikes of their time, to take a broader look at how road bike tech has changed in 30 years. And my original comment was about exactly that; road bikes then and now.

in: Paul Seixas’ unreleased Van Rysel shows just how far Decathlon’s Tour de France bikes have come in 25 years
Rendel Harris 8 hours ago

@Sredlums Did you miss this bit? See the words "Tour de France bikes" there? Easy to miss, only being in the headline and all...

in: Paul Seixas’ unreleased Van Rysel shows just how far Decathlon’s Tour de France bikes have come in 25 years
Sredlums 8 hours ago

@Rendel Harris Except of course, Rendel, it is not. This sentence is in the intro of this article: "We compare Jaan Kirsipuu’s early-2000s AG2R race bike with Paul Seixas’ latest machine to chart a quarter of a century of tech progress", and this is the sentence with which they end the article: "Would you like to have a soft spot for bike tech of the past? Or is it best left to history?". Nowhere does it say they are looking only at bikes from the TdF. They honed in on these two specific Decathlon bikes to compare bike tech then with bike tech now.

in: Paul Seixas’ unreleased Van Rysel shows just how far Decathlon’s Tour de France bikes have come in 25 years
Rendel Harris 8 hours ago

@Sredlums Well, Sredlums, I think if you look really hard you can see this is an article about how Tour de France bikes have changed, so if you were talking about road bikes in general (which you did not make clear) it was your comment, not my reply, that was not pertinent.

in: Paul Seixas’ unreleased Van Rysel shows just how far Decathlon’s Tour de France bikes have come in 25 years
mdavidford 13 hours ago

Looking at Google shopping results for 'road bike', and then at a variety of retailer sites (Halfords, Decathlon, Sigma Sports, Ribble, Winstanleys, etc. etc., plus a couple of our local shops with ecommerce presence), on none of them are more than about one in eight black or dark grey, and often that's just one of a number of colour choices. So if there are a preponderance of such bikes around, it seems like it's less because bikes have become more 'boring' than it is because the people buying them have.

in: Paul Seixas’ unreleased Van Rysel shows just how far Decathlon’s Tour de France bikes have come in 25 years
Sredlums 14 hours ago

@Rendel Harris Well, Rendel, I think if you look really hard you can see that I wrote "how much more boring road bikes have become" and not 'how much more boring road bikes IN THE TOUR DE FRANCE have become". Simply look around you, when you see a group of road bikers pass by. Look in the bike shops. It's black, black, more black, some dark grey, more dark grey, matte. And black parts, like on all the bikes you showed as an example.

in: Paul Seixas’ unreleased Van Rysel shows just how far Decathlon’s Tour de France bikes have come in 25 years
GravelIsNothingNew 16 hours ago

Exactly. Agree. But that doesn’t give ProCycling a free pass – instead the UCI and all pro teams should be leading the way as ambassadors for cycling as the greenest sport. Pro cycling could be green, but it will take significant change. Frighteningly however, it’s greenwashing that is still the aim and motivation for the majority of pro cycling sponsors. It’s not good enough. Such sponsorships should be banned. Like tobacco and alcohol. It’s as simple as that. Our planet is sending a very clear message through ProCycling – not sustainable.

in: “Cycling is fundamentally a green sport”: EF boss Jonathan Vaughters calls on teams to “take responsibility” as Tour de France on red alert due to extreme heat

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