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“Re-education”: Cyclist attacks car passenger who allegedly threw litter at him; Pressure group asks PM to remove cycle lane… that was his idea; Tao donates £5k to his former school; Paris bike lane busy despite winter weather + more on the live blog

It’s Thursday and Dan Alexander is in the hot seat for all your live blog needs
  • by Dan Alexander
Thu, Jan 07, 2021 09:07
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SUMMARY

  • Tao Geoghegan Hart donates £5,000 to his old school
  • Total of £2,700 in fines for seven people who failed to pay fixed penalty notices for cycling in a pedestrianised area of Grimsby town centre
  • Chris Froome's race programme for 2021 season takes shape
  • Pressure group ask Boris Johnson to remove cycle lane... that was his idea
  • Liv Racing release colourful new kit
  • Record number of new users for Santander Cycles during 2020
  • One hour to vote for your favourite cycling fan account
  • US legal analyst compares treatment of cyclist he represented in racial justice protest to last night's unrest in Washington
  • Bob Jackson Cycles, who were 'saved' due to new investment in November, now say they have ceased trading with immediate effect
  • "Car Wars: the Cyclist Strikes Back": Mercedes passenger attacked after allegedly throwing litter at cyclist
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7 January 2021, 09:07

Tao Geoghegan Hart donates £5,000 to his old school

 
 
 
 
View this post on Instagram
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

A post shared by Tao Geoghegan Hart (@taogeogheganhart)

Tao’s a good lad…The Giro winner has donated £5,000 to his old school in Stoke Newington — £1,000 for every year he went there. In a letter to the school he wrote: “Dear Stokey, 2020 has been a tough year for the young, and the old. I’m lucky enough to be able to say that this year has also given me a lot, so I want to give a little back. Thank you for all the great memories. I hope this donation can help future Stokey kids to also dream big.”

7 January 2021, 09:07

Total of £2,700 in fines for seven people who failed to pay fixed penalty notices for cycling in a pedestrianised area of Grimsby town centre

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grimsby town centre - wikimedia commons (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
grimsby town centre - wikimedia commons
grimsby town centre – wikimedia commons (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Seven people received a combined court bill of £2,700 after failing to pay fines for cycling in Grimsby town centre. Planet Radio reports that North East Lincolnshire Council said they will continue to issue notices to anybody putting people at risk by cycling in pedestrian areas. More than 30 people have been successfully prosecuted since November.

In this case, all seven defendants were issued a £100 fixed penalty notice for cycling in a pedestrianised area on Victoria Street in the town centre. Those who failed to pay were taken to court, prosecuted for the original offence and given a larger fine.

Councillor Ron Shepherd is the cabinet member for Safer and Stronger Communities at North East Lincolnshire Council. He said: “Shoppers, businesses and people working in the town centre often complain about nuisance cycling in the town centre. There’s no need to cycle in the pedestrian area – Bethlehem Street and Osborne Street are literally a few metres away and run parallel to it.”

7 January 2021, 09:07

Chris Froome's race programme for 2021 season takes shape

This is what California dreams are made of 🥰 #cycling pic.twitter.com/ysSXu81Gz4

— Chris Froome (@chrisfroome) January 7, 2021

Chris Froome will start his 2021 season at the Volta ao Algarve in February in his first race for new team Israel Start-Up Nation. Before Christmas it was believed Froome would debut at the Vuelta a San Juan but it appears his plans have changed. The 35-year-old has been training in California over the winter but will do an entirely European race block building towards the Tour de France in July. Froome’s sports director Rik Verbrugghe confirmed to Het Nieuwsblad that the four-time Tour champion will race the Tour of Catalonia and Critérium du Dauphiné in a relatively light calendar.

“Due to the lockdown in Monaco in March last year and the distance with Ineos, his rehabilitation was not perfect,” Verbrugghe explained. “In the meantime, he has become so much stronger and he can again develop as much strength in the right as in the left leg.The most important thing is that he returns to his old level with which he was able to win the Tour.

“He will start in Portugal at the end of February, in the Volta ao Algarve. Then the Tour of Catalonia follows and Chris heads to the Tour via the Critérium du Dauphiné. Those are the broad outlines that are now established.”

7 January 2021, 09:07

Pressure group ask Boris Johnson to remove cycle lane... that was his idea

OneChiswick writing to the man who conceived the idea for the cycle lane on Chiswick High Road ten years ago to ask him to intervene to stop it “to save a largely Tory voting community” is priceless. pic.twitter.com/VP9Sz9pyJK

— Paul Campbell (@PauloCampbell) January 7, 2021

If you’re going to ask for a cycle lane to be removed, probably best not to ask someone who ensured it was put there in the first place…OneChiswick wrote to the PM asking him to intervene to help “save a largely Tory voting community.” What the anti-LTN group seem to have forgotten is that Johnson came up with the idea for the cycle lane during his time as Mayor of London.

The letter asks the PM to intervene against “socialist councils” and describes Chiswick as a “Tory voting community”, despite being part of the Brentford and Isleworth constituency which elected Labour MP Ruth Cadbury by more than 11,000 votes in 2019.

The first part of the letter reads: “Dear Prime Minister. Many congratulations on achieving a deal with the European Union — after the year you’ve had I’m sure that was a well received Christmas present. The pandemic must be a huge drain on your physical and emotional resources and whilst I don’t agree with he (sic) course you’re taking, I support you in these almost impossible circumstances.

“As if you didn’t have anough to cope with, I’m here asking for your help on another front. In fact, I’m writing to ask for your urgent help to save a largely Tory voting community less than six miles away from #10. The various schemes — cycle lanes and Low Traffic Neighbourhoods have been implemented with no consultation by socialist councils across London.”

The route finally opened on December 21, more than a decade after the plans for the route were unveiled by Johnson’s administration. You can see a before and after video of the route here. The PM has supported many cycle schemes in the capital and was said to be ‘ballistic’ over the scrapping of the Kensington High Street cycle lane. 

7 January 2021, 09:07

Liv Racing release colourful new kit

A drum roll please… 🥁
Here is Liv Racing’s outfit.

✏️ by @LivCyclingWorld, 🪡✂️ by @CuoreofSwiss. #LivRacing pic.twitter.com/74FaD5Ip02

— Liv Racing (@LivRacingWT) January 7, 2021

7 January 2021, 09:07

Record number of new users for Santander Cycles during 2020

Woman on Santander Cycles hire bike in London (picture copyright Britishcycling.org.uk).jpg
Woman on Santander Cycles hire bike in London (picture copyright Britishcycling.org.uk) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Woman on Santander Cycles hire bike in London (picture copyright Britishcycling.org.uk).jpg
Woman on Santander Cycles hire bike in London (picture copyright Britishcycling.org.uk) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Santander Cycles 24-hour membership registrations rose by 157% in 2020 compared to 2019. The total number of hires also increased as more than 10 million journeys were made using the scheme. These new figures from Transport for London (TFL) show the bike hire service reached a wider audience during the pandemic as people tried to avoid busier modes of transport. In 2020, the previous maximum daily hire number of 50,000 was surpassed on 14 separate occasions.

Notably, the scheme’s free codes for NHS staff and key workers were used on almost 220,000 hires by 18,000 people. The offer remains available to key workers until February 21.

7 January 2021, 09:07

One hour to vote for your favourite cycling fan account

#LFRFanFavouriteAccount20 – THE FINAL

Vote your Fan Favourite Account of 2020 between@OutOfCycling vs @NairoInGreen #LFRContests

— La Flamme Rouge (@laflammerouge16) January 6, 2021

This one’s a bit niche, so most of you can probably skip to the next post…However, if like me you’re a pro cycling fan who spends more time than they should on Twitter then you’ll probably have come across the ‘Cycling out of context’ and ‘Nairo in Green’ accounts. But which one is best? Funny pro cycling moments or Nairo Quintana propaganda? One hour of voting left to decide your favourite fan account of 2020…

7 January 2021, 09:07

US legal analyst compares treatment of cyclist he represented in racial justice protest to last night's unrest in Washington

I represented a client pro bono who was arrested at a protest of racial injustice in NYC because he was biking alongside a march and taking videos. They zip-tied him, threw him in a van, and held him for hours.

Contrast that to law enforcement response yesterday at the Capitol.

— Elie Honig (@eliehonig) January 7, 2021

While the world still tries to make sense of the actual President of the United States whipping up an ragtag mob of extremists to break into the Capitol building, Elie Honig, a CNN legal analyst and former federal prosecutor, has compared the response against ‘protestors’ yesterday to the treatment of a client he represented last year. 

Honig said he voluntarily represented a man who he claims was “biking alongside a march and taking videos” during a racial injustice protest: “They zip-tied him, threw him in a van, and held him for hours. Contrast that to law enforcement response yesterday at the Capitol”, Honig added. 

Back in June, we reported on disturbing footage that emerged of a cyclist being beaten at a protest organised to show solidarity for the Black Lives Matter movement. Pierce McCaffrey said that he was riding slowly to separate protestors from a line of police officers, saying: “They started tackling me to the ground, punched me, put my hands behind my back, handcuffed me and threw me into the car.”

7 January 2021, 09:07

Bob Jackson Cycles, who were 'saved' due to new investment in November, now say they have ceased trading with immediate effect

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bob jackson bike - via bob jackson (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
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bob jackson bike – via bob jackson (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

In Otcober, the much-loved bike builder said it would close after 85 years… but just over a month later, the company said it planned “to be around for at least another 85 years” thanks to “additional investment” in the company.

What happened we don’t know, but what we do know is that the business is listed as “permanently closed” on Google, and the website carries the message: “We would like to thank all our customers past and present for the last 85 years.

“We are ceasing trading with immediate affect [sic]” 

road.cc has asked for comment. 

7 January 2021, 09:07

"Car Wars: the Cyclist Strikes Back": Mercedes passenger attacked after allegedly throwing litter at cyclist

A driver in Melbourne captured the moment a cyclist got revenge on a car passenger who allegedly threw litter at him, with numerous people praising the cyclist’s actions in the comments underneath the video and describing it as “karma” amongst other things. 

Around 18 secs into the video, the driver behind the dashcam can be heard saying: “What the f*ck? The guy in the Mercedes threw something”. Shortly afterwards, the cyclist catches up with the driver and begins throwing punches, before we see the car speeding off. 

One person commented under the video: “Good on the bike rider for giving re-education to the passenger on littering”, while another said: “I’d have done the same thing or worse. A knee in the door would have been justified.”

Some condemned the violence on both sides, with one saying: “I don’t care who did what to who. This behaviour is immature and does not resolve anything.” 

Benny St Leger added: “This is why cyclists need to be registered. So we can all give him a cookie.”

7 January 2021, 09:07

Drunk driver told he was “a cyclist’s worst nightmare” by judge who jailed him

Drunk driver told he was “a cyclist’s worst nightmare” by judge who jailed him

Victim was left with serious injuries after Anthony Adams, who had drunk up to eight pints, crashed into him

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Dan is the road.cc news editor and joined in 2020 having previously written about nearly every other sport under the sun for the Express, and the weird and wonderful world of non-league football for The Non-League Paper. Dan has been at road.cc for four years and mainly writes news and tech articles as well as the occasional feature. He has hopefully kept you entertained on the live blog too. Never fast enough to take things on the bike too seriously, when he’s not working you’ll find him exploring the south of England by two wheels at a leisurely weekend pace, or enjoying his favourite Scottish roads when visiting family. Sometimes he’ll even load up the bags and ride up the whole way, he’s a bit strange like that.  

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33 thoughts on ““Re-education”: Cyclist attacks car passenger who allegedly threw litter at him; Pressure group asks PM to remove cycle lane… that was his idea; Tao donates £5k to his former school; Paris bike lane busy despite winter weather + more on the live blog”

  1. Sriracha
    January 7, 2021 at 9:21 am
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    Quote:

    the city announced it would be investing €300 into cycling

    Are there no bounds to their profligacy? Three hundred euro, sheesh!

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    • mdavidford
      January 7, 2021 at 9:46 am
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      The Cycling Mafia hasn’t

      The Cycling Mafia hasn’t quite got this extortion business down yet.

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    • GMBasix
      January 7, 2021 at 11:01 am
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      Either edited, or they’ve

      Either edited, or they’ve found €299,999,700 down the side of the chaise longue.

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    • NPlus1Bikelights
      January 7, 2021 at 1:59 pm
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      Dan’s m key is broken from

      Dan’s m key is broken from typing “PM” and “MP” and “helmet row” so many times.

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  2. Hirsute
    January 7, 2021 at 9:52 am
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    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-55548820

    ecargo passenger transport – the cycling mafia have infiltrated the bbc.

     

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    • eburtthebike
      January 7, 2021 at 12:03 pm
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      hirsute wrote:

      https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-55548820

      ecargo passenger transport – the cycling mafia have infiltrated the bbc.

      — hirsute

      One tiny swallow doesn’t make a summer.yes
      Where are the regular programmes about the health, social, global benefits of cycling?  Why isn’t cycling mentioned in every article about those problems?

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      • Hirsute
        January 7, 2021 at 1:08 pm
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        I did think of you when I

        I did think of you when I posted. I hope you noted that neither person was wearing a helmet 😮

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        • eburtthebike
          January 7, 2021 at 4:15 pm
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          hirsute wrote:

          I did think of you when I posted. I hope you noted that neither person was wearing a helmet 😮

          — hirsute

          Of course I did, I just didn’t want to mention it.yes

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  3. AlsoSomniloquism
    January 7, 2021 at 10:58 am
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    But I’m sure we have been

    But I’m sure we have been told here multiple times over the summer that the cycle lanes would be empty once the seasons changed. 

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    • Rendel Harris
      January 7, 2021 at 12:39 pm
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      AlsoSomniloquism wrote:

      But I’m sure we have been told here multiple times over the summer that the cycle lanes would be empty once the seasons changed. 

      — AlsoSomniloquism

      I had to wait through two cycles of the lights to get across the road on the cycle lane at Vauxhall last week as there were that many cyclists queueing – it was 17.30, 2 degrees, and pissing it down!

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      • AlsoSomniloquism
        January 7, 2021 at 12:56 pm
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        Now I know you must be lying

        Now I know you must be lying because you have just told me that cyclists waited at lights.

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        • Rendel Harris
          January 7, 2021 at 1:44 pm
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          AlsoSomniloquism wrote:

          Now I know you must be lying because you have just told me that cyclists waited at lights.

          — AlsoSomniloquism

          At Vauxhall Cross outside the MI5 building where the cycle lane heads south across five lanes of traffic, if you don’t wait at the lights you get splattered!

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    • Jenova20
      January 7, 2021 at 2:10 pm
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      I saw a group of 4 cyclists

      I saw a group of 4 cyclists at the end of my journey home last night, all on the road together. Only one had lights on, and the batteries clearly needed changing. Some of these people are doing our image no good at all. Also destined to end up as a statistic.

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      • brooksby
        January 7, 2021 at 2:17 pm
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        Jenova20 wrote:

        I saw a group of 4 cyclists at the end of my journey home last night, all on the road together. Only one had lights on, and the batteries clearly needed changing. Some of these people are doing our image no good at all. Also destined to end up as a statistic.

        — Jenova20

        I don’t have an image.

        By which I mean, I don’t consider myself affected by some person I don’t know and never met being inconsiderate, any more than some random motorist feels all guilty because they saw another motorist forgetting to (for example) switch their daylight running lights onto proper driving at night lights.

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      • HarrogateSpa
        January 7, 2021 at 7:41 pm
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        With that comment you are

        With that comment you are tarnishing the image of everyone whose name begins with the letter ‘J’.

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      • Captain Badger
        January 7, 2021 at 11:20 pm
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        Jenova20 wrote:

        I saw a group of 4 cyclists at the end of my journey home last night, all on the road together. Only one had lights on, and the batteries clearly needed changing. Some of these people are doing our image no good at all. Also destined to end up as a statistic.

        — Jenova20

        as most of us posting here are drivers too (citation required), is our image also damaged by the jerk in the Merc?

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      • Rendel Harris
        January 8, 2021 at 9:06 am
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        Jenova20 wrote:

        I saw a group of 4 cyclists at the end of my journey home last night, all on the road together. Only one had lights on, and the batteries clearly needed changing. Some of these people are doing our image no good at all. Also destined to end up as a statistic.

        — Jenova20

        I saw a group of four human beings the other day sitting in the park drinking, spitting, making lascivious comments to women passers-by and ignoring all antivirus recommendations. I didn’t feel they tarnished my image as a human being, or an Englishman, or a Londoner, I just thought they were twats.

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      • Gus T
        January 8, 2021 at 9:34 am
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        On Tuesday night whilst

        On Tuesday night whilst cycling home I passed three people cycling in the opposit direcrion without lights and thought silly sods but couldn’t see why it would affect me. 

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        • Jenova20
          January 8, 2021 at 12:09 pm
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          Gus T wrote:

          On Tuesday night whilst cycling home I passed three people cycling in the opposit direcrion without lights and thought silly sods but couldn’t see why it would affect me. 

          — Gus T

          I get that. But at the same time there is clearly a war on our roads, fuelled by anti-cyclist rhetoric. All i’m saying is that some people will tar us all with the same brush for stupidity like this. Car driver stupidity is already endemic (Pretty much goes without saying).

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          • hawkinspeter
            January 8, 2021 at 12:43 pm
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            Jenova20 wrote:

            On Tuesday night whilst cycling home I passed three people cycling in the opposit direcrion without lights and thought silly sods but couldn’t see why it would affect me. 

            — Jenova20

            I get that. But at the same time there is clearly a war on our roads, fuelled by anti-cyclist rhetoric. All i’m saying is that some people will tar us all with the same brush for stupidity like this. Car driver stupidity is already endemic (Pretty much goes without saying).

            — Gus T

            Your attitude just seems to add weight to those who think that “cyclists” are a group and that they share group responsibility.

            Also, aren’t you guilty of accusing all car drivers of being stupid? You may benefit from thinking about that.

          • alansmurphy
            January 8, 2021 at 4:06 pm
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            I hate it when all of these

            I hate it when all of these people see cyclists without lights, makes me wonder why I spent all that money on lights…

          • hawkinspeter
            January 8, 2021 at 4:20 pm
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            alansmurphy wrote:

            I hate it when all of these people see cyclists without lights, makes me wonder why I spent all that money on lights…

            — alansmurphy

            I just don’t see it, myself

  4. NPlus1Bikelights
    January 7, 2021 at 1:56 pm
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    Thanks for the positivity in

    Thanks for the positivity in content Dan, more please.

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    • jasecd
      January 7, 2021 at 2:47 pm
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      Agreed. It’s also nice to

      Agreed. It’s also nice to look through the comments section and see the conspicuous absence of everyone’s least favourite troll. Road.cc as I remember it…

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      • Legin
        January 7, 2021 at 4:39 pm
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        où est le coq?

        où est le coq?

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      • Mungecrundle
        January 7, 2021 at 6:47 pm
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        Although it would have been

        Although it would have been nice to read his condemnation of the knee jerk demand to remove a cycle lane that has only been open a few weeks after 10 years of planning and consultation.

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  5. mdavidford
    January 7, 2021 at 4:21 pm
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    Quote:

    it was believed Froome would debut at the Vuelta a San Juan but it appears his plans have changed

    Inrng was reporting the other day that they won’t take a decision whether the race will go ahead, and if so, whether non-local teams will be able to take part, until 9 days before the start, not leaving much time for travel plans, etc., which might have had some influence on the change of plans.

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  6. eburtthebike
    January 7, 2021 at 10:08 pm
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    Having had things thrown at

    Having had things thrown at me from cars, I’m totally with the cyclist on this one, and as Benny St Leger said

    “This is why cyclists need to be registered. So we can all give him a cookie.”

    And I’d buy him a beer to go with it.

    Looking at the vid again, it seems that the driver pulled in just so the passenger could throw something at the cyclist.  Confirmed by this report https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9120263/Mercedes-driver-pulls-throw-rubbish-cyclist-red-light-foils-plan.html?ico=amp-comments-addcomment#comments-9120263

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  7. brooksby
    January 8, 2021 at 8:54 am
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    One for hawkinspeter

    One for hawkinspeter yes

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/08/squirrel-attacks-nyc-neighborhood-fear

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    • hawkinspeter
      January 8, 2021 at 9:05 am
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      brooksby wrote:

      One for hawkinspeter yes

      https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/08/squirrel-attacks-nyc-neighborhood-fear

      — brooksby

      Fake news! It was just Antifa dressed up as squirrels inciting the violence

       

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      • brooksby
        January 8, 2021 at 10:02 am
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        hawkinspeter wrote:

        One for hawkinspeter yes

        https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/08/squirrel-attacks-nyc-neighborhood-fear

        — hawkinspeter

        Fake news! It was just Antifa dressed up as squirrels inciting the violence

        — brooksby

        I suspect that the squirrel was only concerned about the integrity of the vote, and didn’t actually mean to incite or cause such violence…

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        • hawkinspeter
          January 8, 2021 at 10:26 am
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          brooksby wrote:

          One for hawkinspeter yes

          https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/08/squirrel-attacks-nyc-neighborhood-fear

          — brooksby

          Fake news! It was just Antifa dressed up as squirrels inciting the violence

          — hawkinspeter

          I suspect that the squirrel was only concerned about the integrity of the vote, and didn’t actually mean to incite or cause such violence…

          — brooksby

          Some would say that the violence was just to provide cover for the foreign squirrels planting covert technology

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  8. Jenova20
    January 8, 2021 at 10:44 am
    0

    I wouldn’t like to encourage

    I wouldn’t like to encourage violence…That being said – If you’re going to throw stuff at an innocent member of the public for no reason, then they can do whatever they like to you in retaliation as far as i’m concerned.

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"you can’t pass a law saying it’s illegal not to have a speedometer if you’re going to go above the speed limit." I don't think this would be a good idea, nor even speed limits (and presumably mandatory speedometers everywhere) ... ... but is there any theoretical legal impediment to that? Or even simply enacting a law that cyclists are not permitted to ride faster on roads than the motor vehicle speed limit (or some other limit) and leaving it up to cyclists how they go about complying with that? (Not a lawyer not a legal theorist though...)

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What has KE to do with it? If you are hit by a large object you don't absorb all its KE. Being hit by a car is no better than being hit by a bus at the same speed. What matters is how much acceleration you experience.

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@Robert Hardy 20mph isn't as fast as you seem to think, this 57-year-old-not-that-fit rider can easily achieve it on the flat in still conditions and most averagely fit people can on a decent bike. The argument that it wouldn't be a problem to impose speed limits on cyclists because those who can achieve 20mph already have speedometers is an entirely specious one, firstly as I've said a huge number of people can achieve 20mph, not just Garmin-obsessed racers, and secondly you would have to make speedometers compulsory for everyone on a bike, you can't pass a law saying it's illegal not to have a speedometer if you're going to go above the speed limit. How many cycling incidents are caused by supposedly excessive speed? It wasn't a factor in this case, the cyclist would still have hit her if he'd been doing 15mph or even 10mph. Charlie Alliston was under the car speed limit. It's a non-issue and only of interest to those seeking yet another stick with which to beat cyclists.

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(Usual reference to speed being the major issue as kinetic energy goes up with the square of velocity / much greater braking distances required etc)

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@mdavidford steady on - an 80kg cyclist on a 20kg bike would only need to be doing a little over 89mph to have the same kinetic energy as a 2 ton car at 20mph. So same ballpark, really...

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