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Don't try this at home! Tom Pidcock shows off his mind-blowing descending skills; Video emerges of Dan Walker being hit by driver, but MailOnline claims "rear wheel caught car's front wing"; Who's the best descender in pro cycling? + more on the live blog

It's Wednesday and Dan Alexander is here to take you through the middle of the week on the live blog...
22 February 2023, 08:54
Could you keep up? Tom Pidcock shows off his mind-blowing descending skills

No. No we couldn't keep up... even if Jamie has hit 100km/h downhill, taking these Los Angeles twists and turns at 60km/h plus is a completely different game entirely.

The peloton's king of descending (Matej Mohorič may disagree) Tom Pidcock met up with LA's own downhill hero SAFA Brian on his off-season trip, plummeting down Tuna Canyon. Spoiler alert: they make it down in one piece... thought you might want to know that in advance so you can uncover your eyes...

Those lads are quick...

80km/h and slightly less while bombing around tight bends... "That was a bit sketchy," Pidcock laughs at the end of the video... "We survived"... All the kudos in the world to the guy filming...

If ever there was an excuse to watch this again (for the 7,846th time)...

22 February 2023, 17:04
Motorists blame crash victim Dan Walker for not riding on underpass cycle lane – described by locals as "filled with broken glass"
22 February 2023, 16:16
Mirror, mirror on the wall, who's the best descender of them all?
Poll results 22 Feb 2023

 

22 February 2023, 15:53
Presca sportswear the latest British bike industry brand to close

It's a tough ol' time for bike brands isn't it...

Off the top of my head, in recent times, we've reported on Look mum no hands! closing, UK bike sales falling to the lowest level in 20 years, the closure of Specialized's inclusive women's cycle clothing brand Machines for Freedom, Milltag entering voluntary liquidation, Specialized slashing jobs, women's cycling clothing brand VeloVixen entering liquidation (but subsequently bought by Stolen Goat)... and that's just since the turn of the year...

22 February 2023, 15:02
WorldTour banter
22 February 2023, 14:42
Reaction to "insane" Tom Pidcock descending footage

Plenty of love for Safa Brian with the camera too... 

Here's a decent vid of his fastest run on the Tuna Canyon descent...

I think we know who the king of descending is now. Mind blown.

22 February 2023, 13:03
When arm warmers fight back...
22 February 2023, 12:56
Einer Rubio wins stage three summit finish at UAE Tour

Jebel Jais is usually the UAE Tour of summit finishes — 90 per cent boredom followed by a short burst of fireworks near the end. In truth it's too easy for the pros, the shallow gradients and smooth road surface mean a large group reaches the top.

And again this year a large group did reach the top... the difference? Einer Rubio, the Colombian rider for Movistar's daring attack with 10km stuck and he took the victory. The gap reached a minute but the chase behind never had the necessary urgency to pull him back, meaning Remco and co. were left to sprint for second.

Remco did indeed win that sprint ahead of Adam Yates, the Belgian taking the race lead.

Right, back to the sprints until Sunday... 

22 February 2023, 11:54
Parcelshelfcameras

Two steps behind the comments as usual, you've all been discussing the Dan Walker footage and the Mail's coverage already. Anyway, the best thing to come from it, our favourite topic — pointless pedantry...

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22 February 2023, 11:19
Video emerges of Dan Walker being hit by driver, but MailOnline claims "rear wheel caught car's front wing"

We're back here again...

> Dan Walker "glad to be alive" after being hit by a driver while cycling

The Sun got hold of dashcam footage of the incident (available here) which has since been picked up by the Mail, whose online branch came to the conclusion it showed the presenter knocked down "when rear wheel of his bike caught car's front wing". A conclusion criticised on social media...

The driver whose dashcam captured the footage told The Sun: "It was quite shocking — certainly something you don't see every day. I checked the dashcam footage later and realised I had captured the moment.

"He's lucky to be alive. Had the car carried on he would have been crushed beneath it. It doesn't bear thinking about. I'm glad he's OK. He's such a lovely guy."

Anyway, back to MailOnline where unbelievably the top comments (yep, we know we really shouldn't bother) include...and have tens of thousands of likes between them...

This is insane, who attempts to cycle round a four lane highway when there's a completely separate cycle way especially built right beside it? Honestly, some cyclists really do not help themselves.

Why didn't he use the cycle track and underpass to the left, specifically made for cyclists? 

Should be illegal to not use a cycle path when it is provided 

Will he come out and explain why he didn't use the cycle lane? 

Depressing indeed. 

22 February 2023, 10:17
Who's the best descender in pro cycling? (POLL)

Let me set the scene. It's March 18th, Milan-San Remo has quietly been meandering its way to the Med for the past six hours, but now the peloton is powering up the Poggio. Near the top and Mathieu van der Poel jumps, Wout van Aert firmly clamped on his wheel. Then, in a flash of Ineos branding Tom Pidcock darts past with Matej Mohorič, Peter Sagan riding his last San-Remo and Julian Alaphilippe in tow. Now that's something to get excited about...

> It wasn't just the dropper post: Matej Mohorič used "secret" wheel bearings and bigger disc rotors for Milan–San Remo win

We can't wait to see Pidcock take on the famous descent of the Poggio, the same slopes where last year Mohorič (and his dropper post) escaped to victory...

Which leaves me wondering who is the peloton's best descender? Alaphilippe's got credentials.. 

As does Sagan...

But who's the king of them all?

Poll Maker

22 February 2023, 09:49
Demon descending

You're probably alright for tips, Tom, but if you fancy, Jamie's got some for you...

22 February 2023, 09:25
Tom Pidcock being very good at riding a bicycle: A short history

Ah Tom Pidcock, you've done it again. And while I take a short break from watching that LA video on repeat all morning I thought I'd take a dip into the archives to create a live blog post in celebration of the young lad from Yorkshire's bike-riding brilliance...

And it turns out with someone as prolific as Pidcock you only have to go back a few days to find some gold...

Tom Pidcock showcases cyclocross skills during Volta ao Algarve time trial (GCN)

> Tom Pidcock showcases "absolutely mint" cyclocross skills – on time trial bike 

Fairly successful off-season then, Tom? Yeah, not bad just went to LA, filmed a video that broke the cycling internet, took Sa Calobra's KOM and raced a bit of 'cross...

Tom Pidcock Sa Calobra (Strava)

> Tom Pidcock smashes Sa Calobra KOM by nearly two minutes

2022 TdF stage 12 pidcock ineos Zac Williams/SWpix.com

[📷: Zac Williams/SWpix.com]

> How fast!? We take a look at Tom Pidcock's Alpe d'Huez-conquering Strava file

Pidcock cyclo-cross World Champs celebration (screenshot via GCN)

> History maker Tom Pidcock solos to rainbow jersey at cyclocross worlds

2021 tom pidcock gold medal team gb great britain mountain bike tokyo 2020 olympics

> Tom Pidcock wins Olympic mountain biking gold for Team GB in Tokyo

23 years old...

Dan joined road.cc in 2020, and spent most of his first year (hopefully) keeping you entertained on the live blog. At the start of 2022 he took on the role of news editor. Before joining road.cc, Dan wrote about various sports, including football and boxing for the Daily Express, and covered the weird and wonderful world of non-league football for The Non-League Paper. Part of the generation inspired by the 2012 Olympics, Dan has been 'enjoying' life on two wheels ever since and spends his weekends making bonk-induced trips to the petrol stations of the south of England.

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BIRMINGHAMisaDUMP | 1 year ago
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This is how to descend a hill 

https://youtu.be/gz_271z1A2U

 

 

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chrisonabike replied to BIRMINGHAMisaDUMP | 1 year ago
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Nice trikes! Just add mushrooms, turtles and a dinosaur and it's there.

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lesterama | 1 year ago
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Tom's descending: do try this at home. Practise, practise, practise. Find your limits and work on them. Find a better descender to follow. Go carefully. You will improve.

That one-way descent looks fantastic. One less hazard to worry about.

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Rendel Harris replied to lesterama | 1 year ago
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lesterama wrote:

Tom's descending: do try this at home.

Well I gave it a go but I ran straight into the dishwasher.

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ktache | 1 year ago
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Cycling Mikey has just posted a video on YouTube of him spotting someone driving while reading an article about him.

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chrisonabike replied to ktache | 1 year ago
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Did he note whether that cancelled out the alledged "clicks for cash" scheme and thus protected the driver from prosecution?*

Maybe he should start selling a range of protective amulets - against the evil cam?  Possibly they could be shaped like a phone - which at least might give their buyers an excuse for their lawyer to take a punt on in court?

* I'm aware that this wouldn't be a danger in many places.

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hutchdaddy | 1 year ago
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The Daily Mail is not fit to line a litter tray. I wouldn't expose my kittens arses to such filth

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the little onion | 1 year ago
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I hereby propose Walker's law: In an incident when a cyclist is driven into, there are an infinite number of reasons that people will use to blame the cyclist, irrespective of the actual realities of the incident.

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ktache | 1 year ago
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Enforced and unexpected day off today.

I have cracked the Ti frame of my good bike. Around the seat clamp area.

Noticed a little bit much play in the seat post when getting off the train this morning, got onto the other platform and came home.

Anyone know a genius artisan who can weld a cracked titanium bicycle frame?

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Secret_squirrel replied to ktache | 1 year ago
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Nooo.  First step is get in touch with manufacturer they might have someone approved.

Then maybe try one of the UK Ti specialists like Reilly or Engima and ask if they know anyone.   Reilly are usually pretty good at replying to non-sales emails after a week or so..

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ktache replied to Secret_squirrel | 1 year ago
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Raleigh, hand welded in Nottingham, back from when they were.

I will check, but I don't think that whoever now uses the name make high end Ti frames.

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Miller replied to ktache | 1 year ago
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ktache wrote:

Raleigh, hand welded in Nottingham, back from when they were.

I will check, but I don't think that whoever now uses the name make high end Ti frames.

Lol, no they do not. I had an original Raleigh welded titanium frame, mine lasted two years before terminally cracking so yours has done very well. New frame time for you, or indeed new bike.

This was my bike in 1995.

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wtjs replied to Miller | 1 year ago
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This was my bike in 1995

I had a bonded Dynatech (Raleigh Special Products Division) from 1992. Glued into lugs. Good bike- finally gave up after 25 years when the seatstay cracked from internal corrosion

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ktache replied to wtjs | 1 year ago
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The 650 frame 96/97 that has just died was a warranty replacement of one of the glued Dynatechs. Came unglued where the downtube inserted into the headtube arrangement, probably cast. Purple it was.

Mountain bike. It's only three years back I finally managed to complete the XTR, rear hub and I would have preferred the previous model. Lucky to find that NOS. (Laced to a Mavic ceramic XC717).  But it was the fat pipe spindle. Nice idea, strong and light, though the bearings are too small, 3/16ths not a nice 1/4inch, and the freehubs are too delicate, as I have learnt to my cost with the XTs on my Getting to Work bike. Which I must now dig out of retirement.

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jaysa replied to ktache | 1 year ago
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Oh no! Horrible. Sorry, nothing to offer but commiseration.
One gets very attached to bikes ...
I hope you get it back on the road soon  1

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JustTryingToGet... | 1 year ago
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MailOnline inaccurate and it's audience spewing hate. I'm shocked, shocked I tells you. I do wonder sometimes how it feels to work for them, knowing that the entire business model is based on stirring shit, and appealing to the baser instincts of shitty and/or stupid people.

Why any reputable company advertises with them is beyond me.

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hawkinspeter replied to JustTryingToGetFromAtoB | 1 year ago
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JustTryingToGetFromAtoB wrote:

MailOnline inaccurate and it's audience sewing hate. I'm shocked, shocked I tells you. I do wonder sometimes how it feels to work for them, knowing that the entire business model is based on stirring shit, and appealing to the baser instincts of shitty and/or stupid people.

Why any reputable company advertises with them is beyond me.

Businesses love dealing with gullible customers

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ktache | 1 year ago
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Well done the camera cyclist.

I love watching a fine descent, but they tend to go to the adverts for a lot of them, TdF wise anyway. I know the camera Motos find it difficult to keep up and everything always gets stretched out to a very long line, but...

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nniff replied to ktache | 1 year ago
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Fabian Cancellara - TdF 2009.  This is some very grainy footage, but it shows the whole pursuit and catch after a puncture that isloated him.

Cancellara's Descent « An Ordinary Cyclist - YouTube

https://youtu.be/RxXqQqAc2pA

There is other Eurosport footage that is better quality, but it doesn't show the better bits...

 

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Miller | 1 year ago
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I was thinking that road must be closed. Pidcock has real nerve to lean a bike at high speeds but he's not suicidal. Was also noticing the good quality audio, it all made sense at the bottom where it turned out to be an arranged meetup rather than spur of the moment GoPro.

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marmotte27 replied to Miller | 1 year ago
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Wouldn't be responsible to do that on an open one lane road.

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jaysa replied to Miller | 1 year ago
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Well, IME, it's easier leaning a bike hard (40+ degrees) at speed. I always worry it wont come back up on slower hairpins. Envy the motorbike riders who can bring a bike up from impossible angles with the throttle. 
The Alps in weekends see Frenchies and Italians practicing their ascending skills on motorbikes and some of them are proper MotoGP.
I once saw a bloke leaning a Harley right down in a bend and sparks off the exhaust (he must have moved the footpegs up) and got away with it 

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imajez replied to Miller | 1 year ago
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It's a one way road. 
There are multiple markings on road saying that. Plus no entry signs at bottom of descent. 

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Rendel Harris | 1 year ago
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Further to yesterday's news about Dan Walker, leaving aside the helmet debate the Sun now have rear dashcam footage of the incident showing that Walker was riding round the outside lane of a roundabout when a driver joining from his right switched lanes sharply without any indication and ran straight into the back of him. Despite this the Daily Mail describe this as "the moment Dan Walker clips car with his back wheel."

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Steve K replied to Rendel Harris | 1 year ago
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Rendel Harris wrote:

Further to yesterday's news about Dan Walker, leaving aside the helmet debate the Sun now have rear dashcam footage of the incident showing that Walker was riding round the outside lane of a roundabout when a driver joining from his right switched lanes sharply without any indication and ran straight into the back of him. Despite this the Daily Mail describe this as "the moment Dan Walker clips car with his back wheel."

Pointless pedantry alert: how can you have a "rear dashcam" as the "dash" is only at the front of the car.

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hawkinspeter replied to Steve K | 1 year ago
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Steve K wrote:

Pointless pedantry alert: how can you have a "rear dashcam" as the "dash" is only at the front of the car.

So what should we call video from bikes?

Mine would be handlebar mount cam and seatpost cam.

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Steve K replied to hawkinspeter | 1 year ago
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hawkinspeter wrote:

Steve K wrote:

Pointless pedantry alert: how can you have a "rear dashcam" as the "dash" is only at the front of the car.

Bike camera seems to suffice.

So what should we call video from bikes?

Mine would be handlebar mount cam and seatpost cam.

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Awavey replied to hawkinspeter | 1 year ago
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local police call them dash cams, as you have to follow the dashcam reporting link to report them.

also arent most "dashcams" nowadays in cars mounted in front of the rear view mirror ?

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Rendel Harris replied to Steve K | 1 year ago
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Steve K wrote:

Pointless pedantry alert: how can you have a "rear dashcam" as the "dash" is only at the front of the car.

yes I accept your pointless pedantry, of which I would have been proud myself. Henceforth I shall refer to it as the parcelshelfcam.

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panda replied to Steve K | 1 year ago
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Steve K wrote:

Pointless pedantry alert: how can you have a "rear dashcam" as the "dash" is only at the front of the car.

See you and raise you.  A car's "dashboard" is no more a piece of wood to stop the driver getting covered in "dash" (mud and gravel thrown up from the horses' hooves) than a "wing mirror" is usually a mirror attached to the wing.  "InstrumentPanelCam" and "RearParcelShelfCam" don't really work though, do they?

Full disclosure : I call the mirror which is attached to my door the "wing mirror".  The name comes from a time when for various reasons it made more sense to attach a flat mirror futher away from the driver on the wing of the car and some might say we should use "door mirror" for what we have on a modern car, but until such time as I have two mirrors and need to be able to distinguish between them, it's "wing mirror" for me.

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