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Uno-X’s Sweet Protection helmet at Volta ao Algarve (Cor Vos)
Uno-X's Sweet Protection helmet at Volta ao Algarve (Cor Vos) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Weirdest time trial helmet ever? Uno-X’s new Star Wars bee lid divides opinion; “Motorists want our parking spots back!” Angry drivers deflate hire bike tyres and tell cyclists to “buy a car”; Luke Plapp’s sweary post-race debrief + more on the live blog

It’s Tuesday and Ryan Mallon, in between counting down the hours until Opening Weekend, is here with more cycling updates on the live blog
  • by Ryan Mallon
Tue, Feb 21, 2023 09:54
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SUMMARY

  • Just popping out to the shops to get some lunch, should definitely be more than 15 minutes
  • ‘15-minute city conspiracy theories debunked’
  • “Finally, a new cycling sponsor that’s not questionable”: Soft drink Orangina set to partner with Tour de France
  • ‘Why don’t cyclists use the cycle lanes?’ Part 6,950
  • Selfridges hit with £12,000 bill after cyclist struck by car park barrier
  • What else can you do in 15 minutes?
  • “Just when you thought silly TT helmets couldn’t get any sillier”
  • “I don’t think I like aerodynamics anymore”: Is this is the weirdest time trial helmet ever? Uno-X’s new bumblebee Star Wars lid divides opinion
Uno-X’s Sweet Protection helmet at Volta ao Algarve (Cor Vos)
Uno-X's Sweet Protection helmet at Volta ao Algarve (Cor Vos) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
21 February 2023, 09:54

Just popping out to the shops to get some lunch, should definitely be more than 15 minutes

Just going to pop down the shops. I’d obviously prefer them to be well over 15 minutes away, but I’ll have to put up with it.

— Ned Boulting 🏳️‍⚧️ (@nedboulting) February 21, 2023

No idea what Ned could possibly be referring to…

21 February 2023, 09:54

‘15-minute city conspiracy theories debunked’

A handy 60-second guide from Carlton Reid here, in case you’re ever in Oxford and encounter a large crowd banging on about communism and dystopian prisons…

15 Minute City conspiracy theories debunked in 60 seconds. pic.twitter.com/2PtkGWwfG9

— Carlton Reid (@carltonreid) February 20, 2023

21 February 2023, 09:54

“Finally, a new cycling sponsor that’s not questionable”: Soft drink Orangina set to partner with Tour de France

Huge news. https://t.co/4AvDCePVNI

— Ned Boulting 🏳️‍⚧️ (@nedboulting) February 21, 2023

In what is undoubtedly the biggest cycling news story of the day, everyone’s favourite French soft drink, Orangina, has announced that it will become a partner of the Tour de France and Tour de France Femmes for the next three years.

The drink – which, incidentally, is one of cycling-mad comedian David O’Doherty’s gig ‘sponsors’ (just don’t ask him how to pronounce it) – will be sold at the Tour from this July, as well as featuring in the publicity caravan and in the race’s support cars.

To mark this most French of partnerships, the new official soft drink supplier will also launch three special edition cans later this year, based on this year’s stages, to celebrate “the most shaken roads of the Tour de France”.

It’s not yet known whether Orangina will also replace Coca Cola as the peloton’s emergency rescue fizzy fuel of choice, however.

In a not-at-all-overblown statement released this morning, ASO’s Yann Le Moënner said: “You can recognise a bottle of Orangina at first sight, or even in a blind test. Both the container and the drink inside it have become part of our collective psyche. It is hard to overlook its powerful synergies with the Tour de France, and the alliance between these two ‘monuments’ of French culture is only natural. We expect this to be a refreshing and bubbly relationship, of course.”

Hmmm, synergy…

The news has been welcomed with unfettered joy by most cycling fans, just happy that their sport is, for once, not being used by some moustache-twirling oil company for its latest greenwashing project.

Love Orangina and finally a new cycling sponsor that’s not questionable

— Kate (@whatkatedidnext) February 21, 2023

However, some are concerned about the immediate threat posed by those famous glass bottles, soon to be launched from a moving publicity vehicle by an overzealous student towards an unsuspecting public…

Oooh, little orange hand grenades being lobbed from the caravan. Epic.

— AJ Witt @kiloran@mastodon.org.uk (@kil0ran) February 21, 2023

Look forward to them throwing glass bottles into the crowd!

— Sam Levey (@Pedal_Medal) February 21, 2023

21 February 2023, 09:54

‘Why don’t cyclists use the cycle lanes?’ Part 6,950

Well done pic.twitter.com/wXYAIJWTrh

— Human & Travels (@humantravl) February 20, 2023

21 February 2023, 09:54

Selfridges hit with £12,000 bill after cyclist struck by car park barrier

High-end department store Selfridges was last week hit with a £12,000 bill after one of its former employees was struck by a barrier while exiting the company’s car park on her bike.

The Times reports that Sonia Spasiano, who worked as a manager at the La Perla concession in the flagship Oxford Street branch of Selfridges, claimed that the barrier closed faster than she anticipated, hitting her helmet and her nose, leaving a scar.

Claiming compensation for injuries and minor scarring from Selfridge’s Retail, the 37-year-old’s case alleged negligence on behalf of the company’s management for failing to warn cyclists about the potential hazards of riding through the barrier.

Last week at Central London County Court, deputy district judge Adan Tear ruled that the store should have had clearer warnings, and did not give enough thought to how cyclists could enter or leave the car park – but that Spasiano herself was also partially at fault for the incident.

> Cyclist hit by truck driver has compensation cut after judge says lack of helmet contributed to injuries

“I am satisfied that Selfridges does bear responsibility for part of this accident but that doesn’t negate how this accident happened,” Tear said.

He added that the cyclist “must bear some responsibility herself for going under a barrier that was open, which then closed and so caused her injury”.

The court heard that Spasiano was hit by the barrier while following a motorist out of the car park. She said that she followed the vehicle as it would trigger the barrier to rise.

“She said that she normally followed the car one bicycle length behind, and would then follow it through the barrier,” Tear said.

“The barrier struck towards her helmet and then moved down, hitting the bridge of her nose, causing injury to her face.”

The judge awarded Spasiano, who has since left Selfridges, £3,060 – reducing the compensation by a third to account for her “contributory negligence”.

Selfridges was also hit with a bill for nearly £9,000 to cover the legal costs of the case, though I think with a revenue of £653 million for 2022 they’ll be fine.

21 February 2023, 09:54

What else can you do in 15 minutes?

Off with some recycling to the council tip. Should take me about, umm, 15 minutes to get there. pic.twitter.com/nP0Rmy7UYm

— Carlton Reid (@carltonreid) February 21, 2023

Suggestions on a postcard…

21 February 2023, 09:54

“Just when you thought silly TT helmets couldn’t get any sillier”

Uno-X’s super-massive, super-sweet Sweet Protection helmet has gone down a storm with road.cc’s readers today.

“The UCI should ban these helmets on the basis of ‘bringing the sport into disrepute’”, says peted76. Not a fan then, I take it?

Meanwhile, several readers had the same thought concerning when the time comes to name the now-nameless lid.

Uncomfortable Dark Helmet GIFfrom Uncomfortable GIFs

‘Spaceballs: The TT helmet’, anyone?

Rendel Harris also noted that the huge helmet with a big button in the middle isn’t Uno-X’s only crime against fashion.

“To add to the sartorial elegance of the outsized titfer, Uno’s socks/shoe cover combination makes it look uncannily as though the rider is wearing Crocs,” they noted.

Uno-X 'crocs'
Uno-X 'crocs' (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Uno-X 'crocs'
Uno-X 'crocs' (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Very cool.

Finally, lesterama took grave offence to the comparison with triathletes.

“No one is ever more of a dork on a bike than a triathlete. Ever,” they said. Amen.

21 February 2023, 09:54

“I don’t think I like aerodynamics anymore”: Is this is the weirdest time trial helmet ever? Uno-X’s new bumblebee Star Wars lid divides opinion

First we had the POC Tempor, the OG of oddly-shaped, style-be-damned time trial helmets:

Stefan Bissegger UAE TT (GCN+)
Stefan Bissegger UAE TT (GCN+) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Stefan Bissegger UAE TT (GCN+)
Stefan Bissegger UAE TT (GCN+) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

 The POC in all its glory

Then Kask joined in on the fun at the Tour de France last year, unveiling their new ski goggle-esque visor, with oversized wings (and superfluous gilet as an optional extra):

Geraint Thomas gilet (Eurosport/GCN+)
GCN+) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Geraint Thomas gilet (Eurosport/GCN+)
GCN+) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

pic.twitter.com/5VsgIVSfKJ

— Jakob Ravn (@JakobVel0) February 20, 2023

But even Ineos’ massive motocross goggles were overshadowed in Copenhagen last July by the then-brand-new Specialized S-Works TT 5, a helmet seemingly more at home in a 1960s low-budget sci-fi film than on the roads of the Tour, which – just to add another touch of glamour and sophistication – comes with its very own Samir Nasri-inspired snood…

You know, just to keep your head (and sense of style) as flat as possible:

Florian Senechal 2022 Tour de Frane (GCN)
Florian Senechal 2022 Tour de Frane (GCN) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Florian Senechal 2022 Tour de Frane (GCN)
Florian Senechal 2022 Tour de Frane (GCN) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Vlasoc snood Tour de France 2022 (GCN)
Vlasoc snood Tour de France 2022 (GCN) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Vlasoc snood Tour de France 2022 (GCN)
Vlasoc snood Tour de France 2022 (GCN) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

> Snood or no snood? Specialized’s aero balaclava divides opinion

But just when you thought we’ve been through the looking-glass of TT helmet design, Uno-X’s riders rocked up to Sunday’s time trial stage of the Volta ao Algarve sporting an, ahem, interesting new take on aerodynamics:

Den nye tempohjelmen til Uno-X er… interessant. pic.twitter.com/w8MrfO8M2Z

— Magnus K. Aarre (@magnusaarre) February 20, 2023

This rather eye-catching (but apparently not wind-catching) model comes from the team’s sponsor Sweet Protection.

Its flared edges certainly resemble the POC Tempor’s divisive looks, but the helmet’s stand-out feature is a large central vent with a splitter seemingly designed to separate the direct airflow (and not, as one Twitter user suggested, control minds).

The helmet, which has been developed alongside Uno-X as the Norwegian team builds up to its debut Tour de France in July, does not have a name as yet – but it’s certainly proved the inspiration for plenty of jokes on social media… even from Uno-X themselves:

I don’t think I like aerodynamics anymore.

📸: Cor Vos pic.twitter.com/9y03vdB9UI

— Caley Fretz (@CaleyFretz) February 20, 2023

TT helmets now pic.twitter.com/vhGoTY5Ifl

— kate wagner (@derailleurkate) February 21, 2023

Norm Macdonald’s estate should get royalties. pic.twitter.com/8tHCcMLSyu

— SoccerFutbolForum (@SocrFutbolForum) February 21, 2023

#uncanny pic.twitter.com/qwG20whoB8

— Paul Kane (@Kaner1972) February 20, 2023

Anthon, I am your father 👽 pic.twitter.com/XszTDZhaYF

— Uno-X Pro Cycling Team (@UnoXteam) February 20, 2023

Well played…

So, what do you think? Has Sweet Protection hit the sweet spot with Uno-X’s new bumblebee/Star Wars lid, or has TT helmet design well and truly jumped the shark?

21 February 2023, 09:54

Pedestrian on trial for manslaughter over cyclist's death during pavement cycling dispute

Pedestrian on trial for manslaughter over cyclist's death during pavement cycling dispute

The prosecutor told the court Auriol Grey was "angered by the presence of a cyclist on a footpath" and "gestured in a hostile and aggressive way", causing the rider to fall into the road where she was fatally hit

21 February 2023, 09:54

Cyclist speaks out about "bullyish" bus driving that prompted Transport for London investigation

Cyclist speaks out about "bullyish" bus driving that prompted Transport for London investigation

"It just winds you up so much because it's bullyish behaviour, you have no option but to brake or you're going to get hit by a bus"

21 February 2023, 09:54

UK bike sales fall to lowest level in 20 years

UK bike sales fall to lowest level in 20 years

The Bicycle Association has published its Annual Market Data Report for 2022 and noted the sales slowdown since the Covid bike boom

21 February 2023, 09:54

Liv updates and expands the EnviLiv range with lighter frameset and new components

Liv updates and expands the EnviLiv range with lighter frameset and new components

The top women’s racing bike from Liv has shed some weight and got a new componentry makeover for 2023

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After obtaining a PhD, lecturing, and hosting a history podcast at Queen’s University Belfast, Ryan joined road.cc in December 2021 and since then has kept the site’s readers and listeners informed and enthralled (well at least occasionally) on news, the live blog, and the road.cc Podcast. After boarding a wrong bus at the world championships and ruining a good pair of jeans at the cyclocross, he now serves as road.cc’s senior news writer. Before his foray into cycling journalism, he wallowed in the equally pitiless world of academia, where he wrote a book about Victorian politics and droned on about cycling and bikes to classes of bored students (while taking every chance he could get to talk about cycling in print or on the radio). He can be found riding his bike very slowly around the narrow, scenic country lanes of Co. Down.  

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  1. brooksby
    February 21, 2023 at 10:36 am
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    Is this the helmet you’re

    Is this the helmet you’re looking for?

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  2. NotNigel
    February 21, 2023 at 10:42 am
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    First helmet with built in

    First helmet with built in spirit level?

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  3. peted76
    February 21, 2023 at 10:43 am
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    Wow just when you thought

    Wow just when you thought silly TT helmets couldn’t get any sillier.. 

     

     

     

     

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    • Clem Fandango
      February 21, 2023 at 10:51 am
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      Spaceballs: The TT Helmet

      Spaceballs: The TT Helmet

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    • Pyro Tim
      February 21, 2023 at 10:53 am
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      Came here to put a pic up of

      Came here to put a pic up of the Dark Helmet. Glad you’d already done it

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  4. peted76
    February 21, 2023 at 10:45 am
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    The UCI should ban these

    The UCI should ban these helmets on the basis of ‘bringing the sport into disrepute’. 

     

     

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    • SimoninSpalding
      February 21, 2023 at 2:41 pm
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      Don’t encourage them! The

      Don’t encourage them! The rules on sock height are already a combination of aerodynamic and aesthetic considerations. Along with saddle angles, hand positions, maximum reach measurements, (and probably others I have missed) it will just give them another irrelevance to enforce rather than focussing on course safety, race organisation standards, TV helicopters, motorbikes, environmental footprint….

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  5. Rendel Harris
    February 21, 2023 at 11:13 am
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    To add to the sartorial

    To add to the sartorial elegance of the outsized titfer, Uno’s socks/shoe cover combination makes it look uncannily as though the rider is wearing Crocs. 

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  6. lesterama
    February 21, 2023 at 11:19 am
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    No one is ever more of a dork

    No one is ever more of a dork on a bike than a triathlete. Ever.

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  7. brooksby
    February 21, 2023 at 11:31 am
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    Not cycling, just very funny.

    Not cycling, just very funny.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/feb/21/spanish-transport-secretary-resigns-new-renfe-trains-too-big-for-tunnels

    Spain’s secretary of state for transport and the head of the state rail company have resigned … after it emerged that dozens of new trains ordered for two northern Spanish regions were too big to fit through some tunnels.

    Three years ago, the state rail operator, Renfe, announced plans to modernise the rolling stock on narrow-gauge commuter trains and medium-distance trains in Asturias and Cantabria.

    But it was revealed last month that the trains being built under the €258m (£227.5m) contract would be too wide to pass through some of the tunnels in the two regions.

     

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    • PRSboy
      February 21, 2023 at 12:05 pm
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      brooksby wrote:

      Not cycling, just very funny.

      https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/feb/21/spanish-transport-secretary-resigns-new-renfe-trains-too-big-for-tunnels

      Spain’s secretary of state for transport and the head of the state rail company have resigned … after it emerged that dozens of new trains ordered for two northern Spanish regions were too big to fit through some tunnels.

      Three years ago, the state rail operator, Renfe, announced plans to modernise the rolling stock on narrow-gauge commuter trains and medium-distance trains in Asturias and Cantabria.

      But it was revealed last month that the trains being built under the €258m (£227.5m) contract would be too wide to pass through some of the tunnels in the two regions.

      — brooksby

       

      Trains can no longer go direct from Reading to Oxford and passengers now have to change at Didcot because the new trains won’t fit under a bridge en route. 
       

      The future. Like the past, only worse. 
       

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      • Dnnnnnn
        February 21, 2023 at 12:17 pm
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        PRSboy wrote:

        Trains can no longer go direct from Reading to Oxford and passengers now have to change at Didcot because the new trains won’t fit under a bridge en route. 

        — PRSboy

        Eh? There are six direct trains from Reading to Oxford in the next hour according to National Rail (actually two of them are cancelled but I don’t think it’s for that reason!).

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        • Secret_squirrel
          February 21, 2023 at 12:37 pm
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          I dont even believe there is

          I dont even believe there is a rail tunnel between Reading and Oxford.  I dont remember one.  Nothing on Wiki either…

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cherwell_Valley_line

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          • Awavey
            February 21, 2023 at 8:56 pm
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            well tbf they said bridge and

            well tbf they said bridge and Oxford station will be shut for some period over approx 3 months later this year and not able to accept trains from Reading or Didcot, whilst they install a new bridge.

            I thought it had come up before as the road is supposed to be closed for a year, but will retain cycling access throughout, and one of the improvements with the new bridge will be a segregated cycle route away from the busy road.

        • JustTryingToGetFromAtoB
          February 21, 2023 at 12:56 pm
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          Dnnnnnn wrote:

          Trains can no longer go direct from Reading to Oxford and passengers now have to change at Didcot because the new trains won’t fit under a bridge en route. 

          — Dnnnnnn

          Eh? There are six direct trains from Reading to Oxford in the next hour according to National Rail (actually two of them are cancelled but I don’t think it’s for that reason!).

          — PRSboy

          You can travel direct from Reading to Oxford. Most of the time. There are regular engineering works that can mean changing at Didcot or rail replacement buses from Didcot.

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      • NickSprink
        February 21, 2023 at 1:05 pm
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        It’s the new 15 minute cities

        It’s the new 15 minute cities…  not allowed to leave Oxford any more angel

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        • Dnnnnnn
          February 21, 2023 at 4:06 pm
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          NickSprink wrote:

          It’s the new 15 minute cities…  not allowed to leave Oxford any more angel

          — NickSprink

          You might be right… I shouldn’t get my train news from the Main Steam Media.

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          • ShutTheFrontDawes
            February 21, 2023 at 9:17 pm
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            Dnnnnnn wrote:

            It’s the new 15 minute cities…  not allowed to leave Oxford any more angel

            — Dnnnnnn

            You might be right… I shouldn’t get my train news from the Main Steam Media.

            — NickSprink

            I hear the Main Steam Media has crazy rationales for the stuff it comes out with; real loco motives.

        • Roulereo
          February 21, 2023 at 10:23 pm
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          How many permits do residents

          How many permits do residents get allowing them to leave their Oxford LTN’s by the way? I’ve heard it’s 3 per household but not sure if that’s per week, month?

           

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          • Hirsute
            February 21, 2023 at 10:41 pm
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            There are no restrictions on
            There are no restrictions on residents.

          • chrisonabike
            February 21, 2023 at 11:06 pm
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            Secret is that you can go out

            Secret is that you can go out as many times as you like, but you’re only allowed back in if you agree to post nonsense on forums.

            There are groups who don’t have everyone’s best interests at heart.  (Situation normal – human societies, and at any time someone’s having it bad somewhere).  Fortunately humans are lazy and cock-up still rules over conspiracy in the UK at least.  So I find it’s often fairly simple to get a handle on who’s really in power and what they’re pushing.  Just follow the money.  F’rexample when I go to the movies or browse online I see a bunch of car adverts.  I don’t see many promoting walking to the shops or cycling to school.  The odd one that has that going on, it’s generally transparent because it’s being brought to you by Shell or Honda.

      • ChrisB200SX
        February 21, 2023 at 2:53 pm
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        PRSboy wrote:

        Trains can no longer go direct from Reading to Oxford and passengers now have to change at Didcot because the new trains won’t fit under a bridge en route. 

        — PRSboy

        I went direct from Reading to Oxford about 2 weeks ago, has something changed?

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        • Dnnnnnn
          February 21, 2023 at 6:13 pm
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          ChrisB200SX wrote:

          ]I went direct from Reading to Oxford about 2 weeks ago, has something changed?

          — ChrisB200SX

          Not you!

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    • Oldfatgit
      February 21, 2023 at 1:37 pm
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      We had that up here too,
      We had that up here too, following electrification of the Edinburgh/ Glasgow line.
      The solution was to lift the bridges, or if that wasn’t possible, put new bridges in.

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      • brooksby
        February 21, 2023 at 2:57 pm
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        Oldfatgit wrote:

        We had that up here too, following electrification of the Edinburgh/ Glasgow line. The solution was to lift the bridges, or if that wasn’t possible, put new bridges in.

        — Oldfatgit

        Did they fill under the old bridges with concrete?

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        • chrisonabike
          February 21, 2023 at 3:30 pm
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          brooksby wrote:

          Did they fill under the old bridges with concrete?

          — brooksby

          And if they did was there a measurable reduction in trolling?

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          • giff77
            February 22, 2023 at 9:10 am
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            Nah. They just found another

            Nah. They just found another bridge or rock. 

  8. arckuk
    February 21, 2023 at 11:44 am
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    Re the UAE tour margin – 0.28

    Re the UAE tour margin – 0.28 ms at 80 km/h (let’s be generous) is a 6 mm margin of victory for Merlier. Surely that’s plenty!

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    • ErnieC
      February 28, 2023 at 5:33 am
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      And here I was thinking that

      And here I was thinking that that only happened in South Africa. 

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  9. Daveyraveygravey
    February 21, 2023 at 12:57 pm
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    That terrible story about the

    That terrible story about the pedestrian up for manslaughter, was it a shared use path or not?  I can’t find any mention of it in either story, it just reads like a normal footpath.

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    • Rendel Harris
      February 21, 2023 at 1:26 pm
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      Hard to tell, on the B1514,

      Hard to tell, on the B1514, which I assume is what’s meant by the Huntingdon ring road (it circles the centre and passes the Sainsbury’s mentioned) there are sections that have shared path signs and sections that don’t with no clear indication of when they start and stop. Sure it will come out later in the trial if it is a shared path, though it does seem odd that it’s not mentioned if it is.

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    • lllnorrislll
      February 21, 2023 at 1:36 pm
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      https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk

      https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cambridgeshire-54617488

      This old article seem to suggest nursery road and if the photo is an accurate represenration of where the accident occured, then there is a clearly a blue roundal for a shared path.

      However, this is the death of a 77 year woman, killed by another woman after an irrational outburst. 

      Its all very sad and hopefully the courts can serve justice. 

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    • HoarseMann
      February 21, 2023 at 2:30 pm
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      It likely happened here:

      It likely happened here: https://goo.gl/maps/KvzMSc1dD1auZLx66

      The incident was caught on the CCTV of a nearby building, the rather unique style of the railings are shown in the appeal put out at the time:
      https://www.huntspost.co.uk/news/22968300.cctv-appeal-woman-police-want-speak-death-cyclist-huntingdon/

      Shouldn’t really discuss it as an ongoing case, but I think it’s ok to post to previous news articles.

      Couldn’t comment on this particular section of pavement, but many of the pavements in this area appear to be shared use.

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      • Paul J
        February 21, 2023 at 3:29 pm
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        While not at that specific
        While not at that specific section, there are roundels indicating the path is shared use on an earlier and later section. Also on other side of road. There is nothing to indicate a change in that shared status for the section in between with those railings.

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        • HoarseMann
          February 21, 2023 at 3:50 pm
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          Paul J wrote:

          While not at that specific section, there are roundels indicating the path is shared use on an earlier…

          — Paul J

          Yes, I can see the earlier section on streetview. There’s nothing after this sign to indicate the shared use status has changed.
          https://goo.gl/maps/sQxS7MwhG7kb9HVo9

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    • brooksby
      February 21, 2023 at 2:57 pm
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      I thought that, but didn’t

      I thought that, but didn’t want to put my comments in here in case it attracted comments of a certain type…

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  10. lesterama
    February 21, 2023 at 4:56 pm
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    Orangina and Le Tour: time

    Orangina and Le Tour: time for le maillot orange?

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  11. Rendel Harris
    February 21, 2023 at 6:22 pm
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    Bit disappointed there’s no 

    Bit disappointed there’s no “The future’s bright, the future’s Orangina” headline, not like road.cc to miss an open goal like that…

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    • ShutTheFrontDawes
      February 21, 2023 at 9:02 pm
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      Indeed, but I’m very
      Indeed, but I’m very surprised that people don’t think the sponsorship is questionable. What about all the dead babies Orangina is responsible for?

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  12. Dhill
    February 22, 2023 at 7:21 am
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    First the question as to why

    First the question as to why cyclists don’t use cycle lands, is because they appear to be for cars. See picture above.

    second I am shocked and appalled by the bad language use toward and by cyclists.

    Third For once ‘literally ‘ has literally be used approximately for once. Thanks Bram.

     

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    • marmotte27
      February 22, 2023 at 8:35 am
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      Whole cycle lands?
      Whole cycle lands?
      I’d use them. As do the Dutch I believe.

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      • Dhill
        February 22, 2023 at 9:22 am
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        Well whole cycle lands, that

        Well whole cycle lands, that is a different proposal.

         

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        • chrisonabike
          February 22, 2023 at 11:00 am
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          My issue is that when I

          My issue is that when I suggest separated cycle paths (not lanes!) people suggest lands.  As in: “there are cycling lands – we’ve heard of The Netherlands (and possibly Copenhagen) – so why don’t you go forth and multiply over there if you like it so much?”

          I think they don’t realise a) we have always had cycling infra in the UK (even back in the 1930s) b) cycling infra is really driving infra c) there are even places in the UK where this is normal and d) they would almost certainly prefer driving where there is more and they might even prefer the environment that way.

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  13. Car Delenda Est
    February 22, 2023 at 11:16 am
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    Interesting that a pedestrian
    Interesting that a pedestrian is charged with manslaughter for a gesture while a motorist wouldn’t necessarily even be charged for gesturing while driving into them.

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Latest Comments

eburtthebike 21 minutes ago

"I see many children in the ER with life altering injuries caused by crashing bikes while not wearing helmets. I also hear stories from paramedics about children who don’t even live long enough after a crash to get to the ER. Same with adults, but less so." Again, observer bias writ large. Do you also see the many, many more people who die because of obesity and associated illnesses because they didn't cycle? The health benefits of cycling outweigh the negatives by a huge margin, but this is never acknowledged by ER staff who only see dead/injured cyclists not the people who die from not cycling. Just because you see something doesn't mean it is universal, and there is much more too it than just ER. "Listen to the people whose job it is to scrape you off the road." Why would I listen to people with such a narrow viewpoint that they can't acknowledge that there is more too it than just what they see? People who literally don't understand that it's far bigger than them and their skewed views. "Wear a helmet, don’t trash people who do, and don’t nitpick about whether a helmet saved a life – if she thinks it did, that’s her right." No, I won't wear a helmet, that's my choice and having read a lot about it, that is completely justified. I don't tell people what to do, maybe you could do the same? I do suggest that they go and look at the evidence and data, otherwise, like you, they might be arguing from a false premise. She is entitled to think that a helmet saved her life, and it isn't nitpicking to say that is extremely unlikely, given the data. It also isn't nitpicking to point out that her sponsors likely include the company that made the helmet.

in: “If I hadn’t had it on, maybe I wouldn’t be here today”: Zoe Bäckstedt recalls horror crash which smashed helmet “into so many pieces”
hawkinspeter 1 hour ago

I'd rather listen to the people who are working to prevent so many traffic collisions. There's no clear evidence that helmets do anything to make cyclists safer (though there is limited evidence to suggest that bike helmets make cyclists less safe) though they do provide a small amount of protection that is likely ineffective in multi-vehicle collisions. You're using a strange logic really. I wouldn't head straight to rubbish collectors to inform me about the best shopping decisions, though it is clearly their job to collect the remnants of my shopping. Similarly, I wouldn't go to a sewer engineer to get the best health advice to keep my toilets regular etc. To be honest, your mention of "children in the ER" seems like an emotional distraction technique to prevent people from thinking clearly.

in: “If I hadn’t had it on, maybe I wouldn’t be here today”: Zoe Bäckstedt recalls horror crash which smashed helmet “into so many pieces”
Terry Hutt 2 hours ago

I see many children in the ER with life altering injuries caused by crashing bikes while not wearing helmets. I also hear stories from paramedics about children who don't even live long enough after a crash to get to the ER. Same with adults, but less so. Listen to the people whose job it is to scrape you off the road. Wear a helmet, don't trash people who do, and don't nitpick about whether a helmet saved a life - if she thinks it did, that's her right.

in: “If I hadn’t had it on, maybe I wouldn’t be here today”: Zoe Bäckstedt recalls horror crash which smashed helmet “into so many pieces”
hawkinspeter 4 hours ago

Likely due to the right wing oligarchs that almost all our media. Even the BBC is right wing and will even frame questions using a far right wing world view when interviewing Greens or Lib Dems (are they even still around?).

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chrisonabike 5 hours ago

Alas, the immediate UK response to increased petrol prices after decades of "we have to drive" is more likely to be cycle lanes blocked by drivers! Those would be a) protesting about paying fuel taxes when fuel prices go up and b) parking in the cycle infra to avoid driving around looking for a legal parking spot. We collectively missed an opportunity in the 1970s with the oil crisis. That was one of the factors that propelled the course correction by the Dutch. (The outlines of that story told here. https://bicycledutch.wordpress.com/2021/11/17/how-did-the-dutch-get-their-cycle-paths/ They were primed by them being a bit behind the UK in the adoption of the car ahead of all other modes. And indeed the bulldozing of cities to make room for it, and the spike in road deaths resulting from it. Plus they still had mass cycling and reasonable public transport. Indeed they already had some "cycle infra" albeit the primary purpose may have been for the safety of moped riders.)

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chrisonabike 5 hours ago

Give them the sugar sandwich treatment: 1) they have to cycle around London - as likely many / most have simply no idea of the cycling perspective, and the few that do are perhaps "cyclist myself" occasional roadies. 2) then send them for a few days in somewhere cycling is normal so they understand how or could be. So NL - or perhaps better Copenhagen, Seville etc. so they don't simply say "that could never work in the UK". 3) ... and finally they have to do some rides back in London to see just what all the blockers to safer, more pleasant urban areas are.

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60somethingcyclist 6 hours ago

Straits of Hormuz closed. Petrol predicted to rise to £2.00 a litre. Let's see how underused cycle lanes are now!

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HoarseMann 7 hours ago

exactly - cyclists generally don't need saving from themselves hopefully, this will mean more resources put into general roads policing

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Bungle_52 7 hours ago

If a spell cycling around london were to be a prerequisite for traffic officer and video reviewer posts I suspect we would see a huge improvement in the police response to poor driving around vulnerable road users.

in: The MET disbanding its cycling and motorbike safety units has caused outrage, but I don’t think it’s all bad
Rome73 7 hours ago

“ In 2026, I can get from almost anywhere in the capital to the various centres of London using separated bike paths” Sorry, but that’s not true. If you cycle in central London there are lots of separated paths. But they are far from contiguous. For example, Westminster and Kensington and Chelsea don’t offer much, if any. In some outer boroughs there are also CS lanes (but only in a minority of boroughs) and they are not ‘separated’. They are often ‘quiet ways’ or paint. But it is loads better, I agree. I started cycling to primary school in London about half a century ago, so I have experienced a lot of change, indifference, neglect and improvement.

in: The MET disbanding its cycling and motorbike safety units has caused outrage, but I don’t think it’s all bad

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