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Stravagate: “It’s never been more important for us to become self-sustaining”; App developer pans Strava overhaul strategy; BBC reporting of Carol Kirkwood collision criticised; Cyclist spotted on M25; Time > distance says Boardman + more on the live blog

Welcome to Tuesday’s live blog, with Jack Sexty leading the morning and afternoon segments and Alex Bowden moving up the leaderboard this evening (we won’t be charging you though)
  • by Jack Sexty
Tue, May 19, 2020 08:29
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SUMMARY

  • Sir Bradley Wiggins announces separation from his wife Cath
  • BBC weather presenter Carol Kirkwood says she was knocked off her bike by a car
  • It's all kicking off, as Strava announces sweeping changes that takes away the full segment leaderboard for non-paying users
  • Are you sticking with Strava?
  • This week's motorway cyclist is on the M25
  • Strava changes: Veloviewer confident most of their users "won't be affected at all"
  • A summary of the Strava changes
  • Not sticking with Strava? Here are some alternatives suggested by you
  • Why did Strava never go down the ads route?
  • "I understand why Strava did it, but I don't really agree with the way they have gone about it": app developer gives thoughts on Strava updates
  • Wold Top Brewery are holding a virtual sportive
  • Police hunting for teenagers who knocked cyclist off his bike at traffic lights
  • BBC criticised for reporting Carol Kirkwood collision as a 'bike accident'
  • How to get more people on bikes? Talk in time not distance, says Chris Boardman
  • "It’s never been more important for us to become self-sustaining", say unprofitable Strava
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19 May 2020, 08:29

Sir Bradley Wiggins announces separation from his wife Cath

It is with deep sadness my wife Cath and I have decided to separate. Our two children remain our priority and we ask for privacy at this time. Brad & Cath

— Brad Wiggins (@SirWiggo) May 18, 2020

Wiggins took to social media to announce that he and his wife Cath have split after 16 years of marriage. 

19 May 2020, 08:29

BBC weather presenter Carol Kirkwood says she was knocked off her bike by a car

Been off following an accident. Got knocked off my bike by a car and got injured. Biggest thanks ever to the Police (Chris and Faye), the Ambulance Crew (Miranda and Stewart) who tended to me and took me to Hospital. And especially Peter Foskett-Tharby at Wexham Park Hospital ♥️

— Carol Kirkwood (@carolkirkwood) May 19, 2020

The presenter announced live on BBC Breakfast this morning that the reason she’s been away from the show is because she was knocked off her bike by a car driver. 

19 May 2020, 08:29

It's all kicking off, as Strava announces sweeping changes that takes away the full segment leaderboard for non-paying users

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strava leaderboard no longer free – 19 may 2020 (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Global pandemic? Economy collapsing? It all paled into significance at some point last night when Strava announced a whole host of sweeping changes to their platform that means the full leaderboard for segments are no longer free… a devastating blow for the casual KOM hunter.

Local master rider on $17,000 Pinarello Dogma F12 outraged about changes to Strava. pic.twitter.com/g8Ux7X8zRh

— Lockdown Cycling Snob (@thecyclingsnob) May 18, 2020

Cycling Twitter: I DON’T CARE ABOUT STRAVA SEGMENTS ANYWAY I ONLY RIDE TO FEEL THE WIND IN MY HAIR
Also cycling Twitter: pic.twitter.com/U3YG7rZMFs

— Cobble King of Calderdale (@JohnBaker1975) May 18, 2020

If it’s not on Strava….

….it’s because you didn’t pay for it.

— Daniel Lloyd (@daniellloyd1) May 18, 2020

I’ve happily been paying a small annual @Strava subscription to get some basic functionality. Now they want to jack that price up 250% and give a load of features I don’t want. I’m all for Strava making money, but I won’t bother renewing. Wonder who else is like me?

— Colin Lynch (@FormerTTchamp) May 18, 2020

Cue furious responses across social media; and perhaps even more devastatingly, the changes have now made a whole host of third party apps essentially useless overnight (for free Strava users anyway), because the ones that are based around segments without the Strava Live Segments feature (such as Wahoo or Garmin computers) have just had that functionality removed. 

1st world issues today. £1000+ bikes✅, £200+ trainers✅, Netflix✅, Amazon Prime✅, NowTV✅, £50-£200 race entry✅, Cheap medal and t-shirt✅, Sprint 1/4 mile sections for Kudos✅, etc, etc…

Pay £4 a month for Strava❌.

How very dare you start charging to pay people’s wages! pic.twitter.com/hJTWxNNMgQ

— Mark Highland (@Lost_Pirate21) May 19, 2020

For 8 years I’ve gotten way more than $5 / month of value from @Strava. There’s nothing wrong with charging a little money for a good product.

— Fat Cyclist (@fatcyclist) May 18, 2020

As you can see above plenty have leapt to Strava’s defence; at the end of the day, the company needs to make money. Last night founders Mark Gainey and Michael Horvath also sent out a refreshingly honest email explaining their reasons for the changes. Here it is in full: 

If nothing else, 2020 has been a year of regaining perspective. A silver lining of hard times like these is that they inspire introspection and focus – What matters the most to us? And how do we live up to that?

Our answers to those questions have only gotten clearer in the past few months, and we’re now leading the company with a single purpose: rededicating Strava to our community.Strava athletes deserve an affordable and constantly improving experience, and we hope you’ve noticed how focused we’ve been this year on delivering that. Our small but mighty team of 180 has released 51 athlete-facing improvements already in 2020, from Apple Watch syncing, to new maps and metrics for snowsports, to a huge update to our Routes features, and a lot more. We’ve also removed some distractions, such as Sponsored Integrations (the closest we’ve ever come to putting ads in the feed). And we returned the option to sort your feed in chronological order. We heard how much that change drove you nuts, and admit it took a really long time to respond.

Dedicating Strava to the community is also a commitment to longevity. We are not yet a profitable company and need to become one in order to serve you better. And we have to go about it the right way – honest, transparent and respectful to our athletes.

This means that, starting today, a few of our free features that are especially complex and expensive to maintain, like segment leaderboards, will become subscription features. And from now on, more of our new feature development will be for subscribers – we’ll invest the most in the athletes who have invested in us. We’ve also made subscription more straightforward by removing packs and the brand of Summit. You can now use Strava for free or subscribe, simple.

This focus on subscription ensures that Strava can serve athletes decades from now, and in an up-front way that honors the support of the athletes we serve today. We plan to take what we earn from these changes and reinvest straight back into building more and better features – not devising ways to fill up your feed with ads or sell your personal information. We simply want to make a product so good that you’re happy to pay for it.

“A monthly subscription costs as much as a couple energy bars, and we think that’s money well spent. But we also know, especially lately, that there are athletes struggling to make ends meet and that the free version of Strava must remain high quality and useful. Rest assured that we will always offer a version of Strava for free, and you belong in this community whether you subscribe or not. We’re betting all our chips on you, either way. We hope you’ll bet on us.”

19 May 2020, 08:29

Are you sticking with Strava?

 

Take part in our poll. No subscription required…

19 May 2020, 08:29

This week's motorway cyclist is on the M25

Cyclist in shorts and vest rides along hard shoulder of M25 https://t.co/zvVZn7mpSC pic.twitter.com/x1RdbjQMiU

— Siglov Freudivan (@DerangedRadio) May 18, 2020

The latest one to join our growing archive is this chap, who was seen pootling along near junction 25 of the M25 this morning. The Daily Mail’s headline reports that the cyclist was riding along the hard shoulder ‘without a helmet’, although we’re not sure that’s entirely relevant…

19 May 2020, 08:29

Strava changes: Veloviewer confident most of their users "won't be affected at all"

Over 70% of VeloViewer PRO users are already Strava Subscribers so won’t be affected at all. Non-Subscribers will no longer be able to see their placings in VeloViewer but 99% of the site will work just as before. See that link in the tweet above for full info of differences.

— VeloViewer (@VeloViewer) May 18, 2020

As previously mentioned, it’s not just Strava users who will be hugely affected by the sweeping changes to the platform, as many third-party apps based around segments will be hugely impacted, or at worst will cease to function at all. Veloviewer – an app that provides visuals of Strava data – are one of the few that will come out of this relatively unscathed, as a good proportion of their users pay for Strava and the claim 99% of their site “will work just as before.”

Veloviewer have summarised the changes here; essentially non-paying Strava users will no longer see segment placings on Veloviewer, and the ‘Veloviewer Score’ – which estimates your ‘prowess’ across all your Strava segments – won’t be available to those who aren’t paying for Strava either. 

19 May 2020, 08:29

A summary of the Strava changes

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Strava logo 2016 (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

For those who are reading about all the changes to Strava and are confused about what they actually are, here’s a brief summary – you can also find a more detailed breakdown on off.road.cc: 

– For non-paying Strava users, only the top 10 of the leaderboard will now show on Strava segments

– The segment leaderboard soon won’t show on most third-party apps

– You can no longer use Strava for route planning unless you pay for a subscription 

– Non-paying users on an Android device or desktop can no longer view their training log

– Strava’s subscription model is no longer called ‘Summit’, you’re now just called a plain old subscriber

–  ‘Sponsored integrations’ (essentially paid content) have ended 

19 May 2020, 08:29

Not sticking with Strava? Here are some alternatives suggested by you

Surely that depends on what aspects of @Strava you use?
Golden Cheetah, Training Peaks, Komoot, Ridewithgps they all offer some of the Strava functionality better than Strava, but none are direct alternatives

— Daniel Rootes (@RootesRacing) May 19, 2020

Garmin Connect? Records your rides, has connections, does route planning, has segments. What am I missing?

— Rich (@BikeRider365) May 19, 2020

Ordnance survey map

— Kie Foster (@ZuluEleven) May 19, 2020

We had a number of shout-outs for Komoot, Golden Cheetah, Garmin Connect and the Ordnance survey maps; although for the majority of you there isn’t an alternative, and Strava is four quid a month well spent…

Just pay for it! Amazed at the outrage because something isn’t free – if you don’t like it design your own platform to use or shut up and pay up! #moaners

— Tambini_Bikes (@Tambini_Bikes) May 19, 2020

If you can afford £3.99 a month to support a small business that has given so much to so many, there’s nothing that comes close.

— Darryl (@Juppopovic) May 19, 2020

One less Costa a week and keep strava?

— Tim (@Priceyt) May 19, 2020

The best alternative to free Strava is the less-than-a-pint per month subscription Strava. Simple.

— Ben White (@BenWhite5) May 19, 2020

19 May 2020, 08:29

Why did Strava never go down the ads route?

We’re a small team that can only focus on making a few great things each year. Implementing ads would take away from the time we could spend making Strava better for athletes.

— Strava (@Strava) May 19, 2020

Like Facebook, YouTube and other internet giants who still operate a service that is largely free to use, adverts surely would have filled a huge hole in Strava’s finances; after all, they admitted last night that the company still isn’t profitable. Why is this? As they state above, with a small team of just 180 and operations focussed on development, this would have taken much valuable time and effort away from improving the platform. 

The free version of Strava is, and always will be, high quality and useful for athletes. All athletes can still record efforts on segments, see if they got a PR, and view the top-10 overall and top-10 women.

— Strava (@Strava) May 19, 2020

Taking to Twitter to defend the changes this morning, Strava insist that the free version will always be “high quality and useful for athletes”, as users can still record segments and see the top 10 on the leaderboard. 

19 May 2020, 08:29

"I understand why Strava did it, but I don't really agree with the way they have gone about it": app developer gives thoughts on Strava updates

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An app developer has been in touch with road.cc to give their opinion on the Strava updates that has seen the segment leaderboard been reduced to the top 10 for non-paying users, plus a whole host of other changes that put subscribers first. 

Our anonymous source confirmed that the changes don’t affect their app, but said:

“I’d be pretty annoyed if they did. I feel bad for all the 40,000 or so apps it will affect. I understand why Strava did it and I know they needed to do something to become profitable, but I don’t really agree with the way they have gone about it.

“I woke up this morning to stories all over my news feed about it but didn’t hear anything from Strava until after midday. I think Strava should have given developers much more notice. To just cut off some API endpoints like that out of the blue is not a nice move.

“But I get why they are doing it. As a developer I often feel like people don’t understand the effort that goes into making apps and the cost of running them. There will be huge costs for Strava running databases and backing up those databases, and data transfer costs, and hosting costs and API costs. I’m a paid up Strava member now and I feel happy to pay for apps and services that are well developed and useful. The problem is that we as a society have seem to become stuck on the idea that everything online should be free.

“Facebook is free, Gmail and Outlook are free… so why can’t Strava be? The answer is you pay for facebook and gmail by forgoing your privacy. I’d happily pay a small subscription to keep my privacy.”

Do you agree?

19 May 2020, 08:29

Wold Top Brewery are holding a virtual sportive

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wold top brewery sportive (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
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wold top brewery sportive (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

To replace the Wold Top sportive that would have taken place this year, Yorkshire brewery Wold Top are holding a virtual event instead. Participants have to log 60km over the course of five days to complete ‘The Lockdown 60’, then £10 of each £15 entry fee will be donated to charity. Thoe who complete it then get a 10% discount code for online orders at woldtopbrewery.co.uk. 

Let’s hope participants who want to indulge in some of Wold Top’s beer to get into the spirit of things do so after the virtual miles, or at least sip gradually until it’s over… you can enter here. 

19 May 2020, 08:29

Police hunting for teenagers who knocked cyclist off his bike at traffic lights

Shocking footage shows the moment a cyclist was viciously assaulted on Chesser Avenue #Edinburgh #Cycling campaigners @SpokesLothian have urged the man to come forward in order for Police to identify and prosecute the teenager @CyclingSurgeon #BikeRage https://t.co/Wy2tldHrnl pic.twitter.com/uJPkXpjsOv

— SWD Media (@SWDMedia) May 19, 2020

The incident in Chesser, Edinburgh was caught on camera by a driver, who arrived at a red light during an altercation between a man and two youths. When the light goes green the man is knocked off his bike by the youth in the blue hoodie while the other rides up on the left hand side. 

The cyclist in red has been urged to come forward to police according to SWD Media, with Professor Chris Oliver of the Spokes Cycle Campaign commenting: “‘Cyclist to cyclist ‘bike rage’ is very uncommon and is related to other explosive outbursts of anger such as road rage. With such a young person committing this act of violence, one wonders if he will later go on to car road rage later on in life.”

19 May 2020, 08:29

BBC criticised for reporting Carol Kirkwood collision as a 'bike accident'

BBC News report a bike accident – it was a motorist collision, a driver knocked Carol off her bike. Yet headline is misleading https://t.co/RYgzdsUS3Z

— Vicky Sponge (@Noonkemp) May 19, 2020

Carol Kirkwood injured by driver in road traffic collision whilst cycling.

Too accurate for the BBC? https://t.co/CQwiLoQjNE

— IBikeHorsham says ‘Join a union.’ (@ibikehorsham) May 19, 2020

The BBC have been accused of playing down the details of an incident in which their own weather presenter Carol Kirkwood was knocked off her bike by a car driver. The article states in the first paragraph that Kirkwood was “knocked off her bike by a car”, but some have accused the headline of being misleading.

Colleagues and friends from the media have been sending their best wishes to Kirkwood throughout the day, who returned to screens this morning after spending three weeks away to recover from her injuries. 

There is a lot of love for @carolkirkwood this morning. She is ok, a little battered and bruised after her bike accident, but it’s wonderful to have her back.
Long may she reign 🙌🏻 #BBCBreakfast pic.twitter.com/9zdOeYnZY0

— Dan Walker (@mrdanwalker) May 19, 2020

19 May 2020, 08:29

How to get more people on bikes? Talk in time not distance, says Chris Boardman

👍 a lot of people see ‘5 miles’ and think I can’t do that every day. We should start talking only in journey times not distances. https://t.co/xBpV4LMxOb

— Chris Boardman (@Chris_Boardman) May 19, 2020

It might seem daunting to those new to cycling/cycle commuting who work out the lenghr of their commute in miles or kilometres, and then think of having to do that every day; but it might sound a lot less challenging to talk of journeys in how long they will take, rather than how far according to Chris Boardman. What do you think?

19 May 2020, 08:29

"It’s never been more important for us to become self-sustaining", say unprofitable Strava

We know this is an incredibly tough time for our community. However, Strava is not a profitable company today and it’s never been more important for us to become self-sustaining. We can only do that by putting subscription at the center of Strava.

— Strava (@Strava) May 19, 2020

Another criticism levelled at Strava over the winding down of features on the free version of their platform is the sheer poor timing during a global pandemic; friends of road.cc staffers have reported that their parents, aunts, uncles and cousins have been signing up in droves to record their daily exercise since the lockdown began. 

A lot of these casual new recruits could now be put off, especially Android and desktop users who will no longer be able to keep a training log. Strava maintains that they simply have to become profitable or there might not be a Strava; plus, they need to think about their own employees too… 

What about the people who work for Strava? If it doesn’t make any money they won’t have jobs either. Companies don’t exist in a vacuum – they have employees who are going through the same stuff we all are.

— Kate Carter (@katehelencarter) May 19, 2020

In response to allegations that the changes will have ‘shut down’ many third-party apps, Strava deny this and say the overhaul “only changes how segment information is displaying.”

We’re offering a 60-day trial so athletes can give the subscription a try. Our recent updates haven’t shut down any Strava Apps – only changed how segment information is displayed. With @VeloViewer specifically, we worked together to keep everything going: https://t.co/IvY8dTWbmI

— Strava (@Strava) May 19, 2020

19 May 2020, 08:29

Kent cyclist who suffered fractured spine says he'll never ride again after collision he says was deliberately caused by pedestrian – police appeal for witnesses

Kent cyclist who suffered fractured spine says he'll never ride again after collision he says was deliberately caused by pedestrian – police appeal for witnesses

"All they did was look at me and walk away"

19 May 2020, 08:29

Hospitals call on councils to prioritise street space for walking and cycling

Hospitals call on councils to prioritise street space for walking and cycling

‘Without action, we risk the car becoming the default mode of socially-distanced transport’

19 May 2020, 08:29

Strava changes: Will you be paying the price?

Strava changes: Will you be paying the price?

As Strava brings in a raft of changes designed to push users towards a £4 per month sub we look at how the changes will affect you… and the Strava related apps you use?

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Jack is group editor across road.cc, off.road.cc and ebiketips, overseeing all three sites in the F-At Digital group to make sure everything’s up to scratch. He’s been writing about cycling and multisport for over a decade, arriving at road.cc via 220 Triathlon Magazine in 2017. He worked across all areas of road.cc including tech, news and video, and also contributed to ebiketips before being named editor of road.cc in 2021 (much to his surprise). Jack has been hooked on cycling since his student days, and currently has a Trek 1.2 for winter riding, a beloved Bickerton folding bike for getting around town, and an extra beloved custom Ridley Helium SLX for fantasising about going fast in his stable. Jack has never won a bike race, but does have a master’s degree in print journalism, and two Guinness World Records for pogo sticking (it’s a long story).  

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31 thoughts on “Stravagate: “It’s never been more important for us to become self-sustaining”; App developer pans Strava overhaul strategy; BBC reporting of Carol Kirkwood collision criticised; Cyclist spotted on M25; Time > distance says Boardman + more on the live blog”

  1. Bob's Bikes
    May 19, 2020 at 8:47 am
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    Sir Brad announces to the

    Sir Brad announces to the world he wants privacy by advertising his marriage break up……

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    • brooksby
      May 19, 2020 at 8:56 am
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      I blame that shaved-head-and

      I blame that shaved-head-and-big-beard look he unveiled yesterday (in total privacy, of course).

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    • Moist von Lipwig
      May 19, 2020 at 9:05 am
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      I expect because if he doesn

      I expect because if he doesn’t there’ll be speculation/stories in the press about him/wife/family as soon as theres a sniff of something going on.

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    • crazy-legs
      May 19, 2020 at 9:15 am
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      It’s “asking for privacy” in

      It’s “asking for privacy” in terms of “please don’t contact me for media appearances, book signings, interviews about [whatever] or to request I do commentary for [race] and please don’t doorstep my children outside school (whenever schools might re-open)”

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  2. Roubaixcobbles
    May 19, 2020 at 10:24 am
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    Have said this before, to no

    Have said this before, to no avail it seems: road cc is a brilliant cycling website, why can’t it stick to cycling? The personal lives of riders are none of our business and should be left to them.

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    • crazy-legs
      May 19, 2020 at 10:39 am
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      Clickbait.

      Clickbait.

      In exactly the same way that if they publish a story about Lance Armstrong, the comment section is full of peoples saying they don’t want to read about a lying/cheating/doping scumbag/arsehole/bastard *

      *delete as applicable

      However that’s still dozens of people who’ve clicked through, been shown a load of adverts while they vent their rage and have read about him in spite of saying they don’t want to read about him. People are so simple, so easily lead. Controversial news = I will click and vent and rant and froth! 

      Website = ooh, advertising revenue!

      Plus it’s not like road.cc have been snooping round his bins and found the envelope from the divorce lawyers, Brad did tweet it voluntarily to his 67,000 Twitter followers.

       

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      • Roubaixcobbles
        May 19, 2020 at 11:54 am
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        crazy-legs wrote:

        Plus it’s not like road.cc have been snooping round his bins and found the envelope from the divorce lawyers, Brad did tweet it voluntarily to his 67,000 Twitter followers.

        — crazy-legs

        True, but as MVL notes below, quite probably he’s been forced to announce it to try and preempt speculation and/or invasion from the rags; it be nice if the cycling community could take the high ground rather than side with them.

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  3. Derk Davies
    May 19, 2020 at 11:02 am
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    I’ve just been to the toilet.

    I’ve just been to the toilet. But I don’t want it spread around in the public domain mind.

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    • FrankH
      May 19, 2020 at 2:13 pm
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      Tim K wrote:

      I’ve just been to the toilet. But I don’t want it spread around in the public domain mind.

      — Tim K

      But you did anyway. 🙂

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      • brooksby
        May 19, 2020 at 2:47 pm
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        FrankH wrote:

        I’ve just been to the toilet. But I don’t want it spread around in the public domain mind.

        — FrankH

        But you did anyway. 🙂

        — Tim K

        Whoooosh!

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        • AlsoSomniloquism
          May 19, 2020 at 7:17 pm
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          Yes, I do hope he flushed. 

          Yes, I do hope he flushed. 

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  4. eburtthebike
    May 19, 2020 at 11:15 am
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    “The Daily Mail’s headline

    “The Daily Mail’s headline reports that the cyclist was riding along the hard shoulder ‘without a helmet’, although we’re not sure that’s entirely relevant…”

    Of course it’s relevant; everyone knows the magical properties of these helmets will save your life when you’re run over by a 18 wheeler at 60mph.  There are thousands of totally true reports about this on the web.angel

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  5. rayjay
    May 19, 2020 at 12:05 pm
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    Why does Wiggins or any other

    Why does Wiggins or any other ego maniac attention seeker feel the need to post issues about their private lives.  Divorce is very high and has been for a ever ,It happens to a lot of people  and they don’t have to go on line and tell everyone.  How about people keep their private lives ” private”.  
    What  is it with this desperate need for attention.  Listen I don’t know Wiggins or his wife I have no idea why they split up and I don’t care ,why should I?  
    He’s going to get a load of pat on the backs from people who don’t know him  because he rides a bike. Complete  self serving BS . 

     

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    • darrenleroy
      May 19, 2020 at 2:39 pm
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      Perhaps he’s pre-empting

      Perhaps he’s pre-empting rumours and gossip by releasing the tweet. Better coming from him than speculation from the media.

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  6. Sriracha
    May 19, 2020 at 12:10 pm
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    “… without a helmet”? I’d
    “… without a helmet”? I’d like to think the DM was using irony to point up the fatuousness of promoting the push towards helmet laws as a paliative to the lethal threat posed by poor infrastructure and driver behaviour. But on balance I suspect they are just trolling.

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    • Gus T
      May 19, 2020 at 3:24 pm
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      Sriracha wrote:

      “… without a helmet”? I’d like to think the DM was using irony to point up the fatuousness of promoting the push towards helmet laws as a paliative to the lethal threat posed by poor infrastructure and driver behaviour. But on balance I suspect they are just trolling.

      — Sriracha

      So he would have been OK on the motorway if he had been wearing a helmet, gotta love the Fail

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  7. deviate
    May 19, 2020 at 12:43 pm
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    The Poll should really have a

    The Poll should really have a “I don’t currently pay, but will now” option

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  8. TheBillder
    May 19, 2020 at 1:04 pm
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    Has the blog just gone 12:52

    Has the blog just gone 12:52 then 10:24 then 12:54 the 10:02 then 12:53 in some kind of tribute to the Strava activity feed timeline algorithm?

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  9. quasijones
    May 19, 2020 at 1:17 pm
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    “The answer is you pay for

    “The answer is you pay for facebook and gmail by forgoing your privacy. I’d happily pay a small subscription to keep my privacy.”

    Is there a difference in the Strava privacy policy between free and paid?

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    • daern
      May 19, 2020 at 2:04 pm
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      quasijones wrote:

      Is there a difference in the Strava privacy policy between free and paid?

      — quasijones

      No, and I think this was the point – Strava doesn’t appear to monetise your data (or, at least, if they are doing, they’re doing a pretty bad job of it!) and thus they are not receiving that stream of income that might help to subsidise the service, much like Google and Facebook have built their entire business model around.

      I guess it depends whether people would be happier with free Strava with adverts, free Strava with looser controls over how data is protected, or paid Strava with privacy (such as it is in a social-media model, anyway). Take your pick, but getting everything for free just isn’t an option available any more.

      Personally, I’ve been a subscriber for 6 years now and don’t plan on changing. I originally subscribed because I believe in supporting services that I value, and still consider it relatively decent value for money. I am, however, somewhat annoyed that my 11yo, performance-and-segment-obsessed son, who doesn’t have a paid subscription, will lose out and I really can’t justify two, full-priced subscriptions. Zwift managed to do free accounts for U16s, what about you, Strava?

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      • AlsoSomniloquism
        May 19, 2020 at 7:16 pm
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        I thoughht Strava ToC was

        I thoughht Strava ToC was over 16’s /18’s only. I thought this was a fall out from when they did the heat map thing that showed all the military bases etc. 

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  10. OldRidgeback
    May 19, 2020 at 1:55 pm
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    I hope Carol’s ok. We were

    I hope Carol’s ok. We were students together a long, long time ago in a galaxy, far, far away.

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  11. Awavey
    May 19, 2020 at 2:04 pm
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    Shouldn’t that be 3rd party
    Shouldn’t that be 3rd party app developer,if I’m reading their comments on Strava correctly, ie they dont work for Strava

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  12. MsG
    May 19, 2020 at 2:43 pm
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    Fetcheveryone.com is a great

    Fetcheveryone.com is a great alternative to Strava, and free, though you can choose to become a supporter and switch off ads. Lots of data analysis, plus GPS based games and a great forum. I’ve had a strava sub for several years so will carry on paying for the moment.

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  13. Solocle
    May 19, 2020 at 3:41 pm
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    From personal experience the

    From personal experience the hard shoulder of a motorway feels safer than the inside lane of a dual carriageway.

    The time I did it was 3:30 am on the M40 by accident, and I made a quick exit at the next exit. But, the motorway spur went from D2(M) to D2 when it became the A40. Suddenly, I was paranoid about making sure my rear light was still working, where I wasn’t on the motorway.

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  14. Sriracha
    May 19, 2020 at 6:06 pm
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    This just in: an unfortunate
    This just in: an unfortunate person has been involved in a “pedestrian accident”. They were knocked down whilst walking, by a car. Here’s hoping Carol Kirkwood is well after her “bike accident”.

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    • Miller
      May 19, 2020 at 9:09 pm
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      That BBC report is remarkably
      That BBC report is remarkably bland considering a name presenter was knocked off and injured. They can’t even defend one of their own

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      • eburtthebike
        May 21, 2020 at 6:45 am
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        Miller wrote:

        That BBC report is remarkably bland considering a name presenter was knocked off and injured. They can’t even defend one of their own

        — Miller

        It’s the BBC, which is utterly biased against cycling.

        I was listening to R4 yesterday, a prog called “Inside Medicine” and they talked about heart disease, cancer and obesity, and interviewed a professor of medicine.  They talked about food, diet, diet, diet, food and food; no mention whatsoever of cycling, which has a much better record on these problems than any diet.

        I looked at their past progs on the web, going back eight years, during which time they’d mentioned cycling three times; knees, saddles and helmets, and I couldn’t find a single mention of the overwhelming benefits of cycling, despite decades of reports demonstrating them.

        I’ve emailed both the professor and the prog, and my breath is fully bated.

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  15. AlsoSomniloquism
    May 19, 2020 at 7:18 pm
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    The Scottish kerfuffle. Aren

    The Scottish kerfuffle. Aren’t they both on hire bikes? Thought they had GPS and details on who last used them.

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    • condor2378
      May 19, 2020 at 11:53 pm
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      The edinburgh hire bikes are
      The edinburgh hire bikes are exceptionally easy to steal. Break the lock with a kick and you’re away. I’ve seen it done by a 13 year old. The chances of these being legitimate hires is nil. I’d put my mortgage on it. That’s probably why the gent was talking to them, “stop nicking the hire bikes you little #+>[#”. Bloody Neds.

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  16. bobrayner
    May 20, 2020 at 12:17 am
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    I was outraged – outraged! –
    I was outraged – outraged! – at Strava starting to charge users £48/year to use some of their services.

    Then I spent the rest of the morning browsing £2000 wheels on the internet.

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mjvande@pacbell.net 3 hours ago

Mountain bikers don't care about obeying the law!

in: Every off-road rider should know the law around rights of way
OnYerBike 5 hours ago

It's worth pointing out that unlike cycling on a pavement (i.e. a footway alongside a carriageway), cycling on a footpath is not a crime; it is a civil tort against the landowner. That means it's not a police matter, and other people using the path have no standing to complain either (although of course you should still be careful and considerate of other people, regardless of the status of the right of way). Indeed, without going into a full lecture on the history of Rights of Way and the noble tradition of mass trespass (e.g. Kinder Scout), there is an argument that the law implicitly condones such "illegal" use of paths, given that new rights of way can be created by members of the public demonstrating that they have used the path without permission but "as of right" for long enough, without the landowner taking action to curb such use. As an additional point of information, I would note that the offence of causing injury by "wanton or furious" cycling applies anywhere. I'm no lawyer, but I struggle to see that the designation of the right of way would have much sway, but rather any case would rely on the broader context and whether the manner of the cycling was safe given the terrain and conditions.

in: Every off-road rider should know the law around rights of way
Pub bike 6 hours ago

@Rendel Harris I get close-passed by more riders than cars in Richmond Park. Maybe I should ride faster.

in: “The problem is fear”: Cyclists sound warning over bikejackers on illegal bikes intimidating riders in Richmond Park
Rendel Harris 7 hours ago

@perce I'm normally a big fan of your excellent posts perce but I must take issue with this one. The idea that Lord Khan of Tooting would ever, in any circumstances, have been friends with Nigel is surely beyond the bounds of even your fertile imagination?

in: “The problem is fear”: Cyclists sound warning over bikejackers on illegal bikes intimidating riders in Richmond Park
Rendel Harris 7 hours ago

Not to downplay the seriousness of bikejacking, but Mr.Taylor might want to consider that fact that many riders have been put off using the park at weekends due to the aggressive, intimidatory behaviour of members of his own club, who are notorious for riding as if the park is a private training facility just for themselves, and that's a pretty sad state of affairs as well.

in: “The problem is fear”: Cyclists sound warning over bikejackers on illegal bikes intimidating riders in Richmond Park
Riggers 7 hours ago

In Wiggle/CR's absence, what are people using nowadays? I've been out of it for a while, but now returned.

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quiff 8 hours ago

I did a multi-day ride many years ago with someone who was a better cyclist than me by every conceivable measure but this one. I remember watching them up ahead on a quiet road trying to teach themselves - snatching brief seconds with their hands off the bars before losing balance and grabbing on again. 'Watch this' I said to the rest of my group, before I accelerated to catch them, then nonchalantly sailed past them uphill riding no hands. Very satisfying. I've been able to ride most of mine hands-free, but had a Specialized Allez that really didn't cooperate. Haven't been brave enough to try it on a Brompton or cargo bike though. And still can't do a wheelie, or any of the other things on Jo's palmares.

in: I cannot wheelie. I cannot ride with no hands. I am s**t at bikes.
Slartibartfast 9 hours ago

@Hamster now that is an exciting development. I do remove/amend signs but reporting them for flyposting is much more satisfying.

in: Every off-road rider should know the law around rights of way
Hamster 9 hours ago

@Slartibartfast If the sign-maker can be caught in the act then the council Environmental Health can get a report for littering/fly-tipping. Hours of endless fun for that person trying to explain away a conviction. Don't report unless you're prepared to go to court though. Or remove the litter and put in the nearest bin with a sticker explaining how littering is a crime.

in: Every off-road rider should know the law around rights of way
kingleo 9 hours ago

What would make driving safer for motorists is if they stopped driving under the influence of drugs or alcohol and driving faster than the speed limit.

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