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Councillors call in the cops to "assist" with cyclists ignoring dismount signs; Not Near Miss of the Day: "A most excellent overtake"; Dave Brailsford arrives at Old Trafford for Man United takeover talks; Who'll win San Remo? + more on the live blog

Happy St Patrick's Day! Come sit around the live blog fire with Dan Alexander and enjoy a pint of Guinness and a scroll through the day's best cycling action...
17 March 2023, 15:58
Councillors call in the cops to "assist" with cyclists ignoring dismount signs

North Richmond Police down in south west London seemed very pleased with their post showing off their work in the community... *checks notes*... assisting councillors after receiving several reports from residents in regards to cyclists ignoring the dismount sign...

They seemed less pleased with the inevitable follow-up from the public who had a few questions...

Other questions for the force, as provided by the superb ratio of 103 replies to 28 likes...

Is that a van parked on the pavement in the background? Let's head to VAR on that one...

Councillors call in the cops to "assist" with cyclists ignoring dismount signs (North Richmond Police Team/Twitter)

 Any work being done to prevent illegal pavement driving which is very clear in this satellite image?

Richmond police site (Google Maps)

No reply to those particular queries at the time of writing (or any other time, we suspect). One reply to the police's assertion they'd only been advising... "There are two signs here, one mandatory, one advisory. By mentioning only the advisory one, can you see and will you concede that you've increased the chances of law-abiding people riding cycles past or near an advisory sign being abused or assaulted?

Yep, you guessed it, no reply on that one either...

17 March 2023, 17:12
Wout goes Van Aert's front mech for Milan-San Remo
Van Aert Milan-San Remo bike (Instagram/ Wout van Aert)

 

17 March 2023, 17:09
It's TT time! A closer look at Aaron's Cannondale Superslice time trial bike
17 March 2023, 16:33
Cycling company cools customers' concerns concerning cosmetic cracks

It's that point in the week where my brain's melting away, as seen by that headline...anyway, Mat's done the serious work on this one...

Giant Revolt Advanced paint cracking - 3

> Giant says Revolt cracking issue is simply down to paint… but it'll replace frames free of charge

17 March 2023, 08:57
Not Near Miss of the Day: Cyclist praises "a most excellent overtake"

You probably know our Near Miss of the Day series by now, highlighting the dangers experienced by vulnerable road users here in the UK. Most recently featuring a London cab driver who pushed through an overtake at a pinch point, smashing his wing mirror into the back of our reader... before promptly having a pop at the cyclist for "swerving"...

> Near Miss of the Day 854: Taxi driver hits cyclist with wing mirror at pinch point... blames rider for swerving

Well, today there is no NMotD, just a Not Near Miss of the Day...

Shared by the chair of Bike Worcester, Dan Brothwell, it was not the only one he enjoyed yesterday...

Here's a discussion topic for you...

I couldn't help but think recently I feel like I'm having less close passes while out on the roads. Something you've noticed too or have I just been lucky of late? The bad ones aren't gone completely, just slightly fewer... maybe I'm just imagining it?

17 March 2023, 15:16
Tao Geoghegan Hart: "This is not today's news. It's been a gradual decline during the past years"

Commenting on the state of the sport of bike racing in Britain Tao Geoghegan Hart has penned a long thread of thoughts on social media...

The sport of cycling in the UK is at a low that I've not seen during my time. Aside from the obvious one, there are no profesional mens and women's teams. There are next to no pro races and those that exist, face dwindling fields due to brexit. There is no domestic scene whatsoever.

Further to that, bike shop shelves are empty, the roads are ever more dangerous and the sport is becoming increasingly less accesible due to soaring costs such as entry fees, the equipment arms race and the lack of opportunities to race for well supported teams.

Times are very tough and sport is anything but exempt from these issues. However more must be done to reset what has been a steady decline ever since the inspiration of the summer of 2012 began to dwindle.

A road World Champion, The Tour, Lizzie's silver , the track successes & Bradley Wiggins' TT victory. Absolutely iconic moments that have resulted in more profesional British riders than ever. But what of the sport? It's dying. And I don't see anyone coming to resuscitate it.

This is not todays news. It's been a gradual decline during the past years. But todays news of [one of] Britain's only Continental team, full of talented riders, a team vindicated by how many lads moved to professional last winter, has made me stop & think. Nobody seems to be paying attention.

What can you/we/I do? I don't know. A start would be seeing the Women's Tour find a sponsor to continue at full strength. I'd also like to see more done to lobby for better rules on the youth side of the sport. In 2020 I pushed for a rule to ban deep section carbon wheels from kids racing from 16 & below.

It's a symbolic gesture. But I remember being 14 & just starting out. I remember how much weight I gave to the materialistic side of my competitions bikes. It could have ended my career. This rule already exists on the track. Why not the road?

I was met with blank expressions and bureaucracy by the custodians of cycling in this country & frankly, I gave up. But it’s something I still believe in. And so from today I'll try again.

I don't have any answers. But I do know you should support your local shops — they are absolutely on their knees. Support your local clubs. Volunteer in kids sport. All the things and more I plan to fully embrace when my career eventually comes to a halt. Thanks for reading

17 March 2023, 14:24
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17 March 2023, 13:56
British Continental team AT85 Pro Cycling folds

A long-standing team on the British domestic scene, formerly under the Canyon DHB SunGod and WiV SunGod banner, has collapsed today. The team's line-up for this year had included riders such as Chris Lawless, Tour of Britain points classification winner Matthew Teggart and Max Stedman, their futures now uncertain.

The news comes just months after fellow Continental-level outfit Ribble Weldtite called it a day due to a lack of sponsorship, with Saint Piran and Trinity Racing now the only two left at that level.

17 March 2023, 12:59
How to fuel for a big ride like a pro — chocolate croissant porridge?!

The actions of the following tweet are do not reflect the views of myself nor my employer...

Is it as bad as Mathieu van der Poel's tomato ketchup pasta? Probably not, but still... 

17 March 2023, 12:37
Cyclist stopped by police three times and "told to put bike in van" after "load of complaints" from motorists on foggy climb
17 March 2023, 11:30
Is the driving on Britain's roads getting safer?

Some reaction to this... 

 hutchdaddy: "It has to be said that the vast majority of overtaking I experience is absolutely fine, probably 75 per cent, however I think that 20 per cent is a case of you really could have tried a little harder, leaving 3 per cent of them for a "way too close" moment and the final 2 per cent are just dangerous. Every excellent pass gets a thumbs up and if I catch up with them I'll even have a pleasant natter."

Adam Sutton: "It really is hit and miss lately (no pun intended). On my commute I cycle along a dual carriageway that has a narrow cycle lane for about two miles, and I have noticed an increasing number of people actually pulling into the second lane as they overtake despite the cycle lane. Always give them acknowledgement when that happens.

"Then again, on Monday in typical bimmer fashion a 3 series close passed with oncoming traffic as we came past a train station. I guess he really needed to get to that car park 10 seconds quicker! But then on Wednesday's commute I could hear something sporty behind me and was expected a MGIF manoeuvre approaching traffic islands, but he just followed. As an Alfa romeo owner, it was a pleasant surprise to see it was an Alfa 4C pulled up alongside me at the lights. Definitely got a thumbs up!"

mctrials23: "Bit of a weird one... I would say that on open roads like this, 95 per cent of passes are good. A few per cent could be better and a few per cent are obviously on purpose just to make a point that they don't like cyclists. In built up areas with lots of traffic though its a completely different game."

Cyclingjon1959: "If you get a great overtake, or any other considerate driving from a firm. Ring the firm and let them know. I've rung firms to complain and praise."

CyclingGardener: "I'd certainly say I'm getting more really good passes, but that was already starting before the HC changes. So probably fewer close ones on the whole. But I also have the impression that more of the remaining 'really too close' are hostile and deliberate rather than just thoughtless. And nothing, but nothing seems to change the mindset of the 'centre line fetishists' who think they're not allowed to cross ANY white line, not just the solid ones."

S13SFC: "Regarding close passes. I've been saying for quite a while that I am getting, way, way fewer than before. In fact, I'm genuinely shocked when I get one now.What I am seeing is far more overtaking in iffy as f*** places though, such as blind bends, crests of hills etc but at least they are going wide!"

Bobonabike: "Re: close passes, I think you've just been lucky. I've had some right shockers recently. A guy I know was recently knocked off twice in a couple of weeks — luckily no injuries. I'm considering getting a camera. I'd love some recommendations for a budget cam (i.e. ~£100)"

17 March 2023, 10:46
Formula 1 drivers banned from cycling the 'track walk'

As reported by Motorsport, Formula 1 drivers will no longer be allowed to cycle around the circuit at the Thursday track walk ahead of a Grand Prix. The prep event allows riders and staff to see the track ahead of practice and qualifying, but rather than walking around the two to three-mile-long circuits many drivers have taken to bikes or scooters. Not any more...

A letter from Formula One Management during the first race of the season, in Bahrain, told teams that "any means of transport (bicycles, e-bikes, scooters, e-scooters, etc) is forbidden during the time window stated as 'Team Track Walks' on the Event Timetable. No exceptions will be allowed. This decision has been agreed with the FIA."

Looks like we've got a feature to update...

> The best bikes of the F1 grid: take a look at what the fastest drivers on earth choose to ride

17 March 2023, 10:17
Dave Brailsford and Jim Ratcliffe arrive at Old Trafford for Manchester United takeover talks

> Jim Ratcliffe wants Dave Brailsford to overhaul Manchester United — billionaire behind Ineos sporting empire remains confident of successful bid 

17 March 2023, 09:22
POLL: Who's going to win Milan-San Remo?

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Dan joined road.cc in 2020, and spent most of his first year (hopefully) keeping you entertained on the live blog. At the start of 2022 he took on the role of news editor. Before joining road.cc, Dan wrote about various sports, including football and boxing for the Daily Express, and covered the weird and wonderful world of non-league football for The Non-League Paper. Part of the generation inspired by the 2012 Olympics, Dan has been 'enjoying' life on two wheels ever since and spends his weekends making bonk-induced trips to the petrol stations of the south of England.

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ktache | 1 year ago
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Just seen my first Deliveroo branded ebike. in that colour. Claims to have a tracker on board.

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Car Delenda Est | 1 year ago
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Manx Motorists: "hello police I've been driving in thick fog while unable to see the vehicle infront"

Manx Police: "ok we'll track down the person you endangered and shift the blame onto them"
🙃

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ktache | 1 year ago
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There is light in the sky when I have to get up for work, must be time for the clocks to change soon, a week away, hour colder in the morning, hour warmer in the evening. More clothes to carry. Equinox on Monday.

I think I saw magnolia flowers out on a small bush on my morning commute today, and the first cloud of gnats on my way home. Remembered to close my mouth this time, must start to breath through my nose again...

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Legin | 1 year ago
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I don't know if people have noticed but Brexit and the current Government have totally ****ed this country and the economy. Cycling Teams have always been on flakey financial footings, so to lose so many should not be a shock.... still Blue Passports eh......

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HoarseMann replied to Legin | 1 year ago
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Legin wrote:

still Blue Passports eh......

Even that 'benefit' is going to be a bit flakey; passport office are going on strike for FIVE WEEKS!: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-64981979

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BIRMINGHAMisaDUMP replied to Legin | 1 year ago
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Northern Ireland is doing OK. - even your PM admits to the unique and privileged position NI is in with unrestricted access to the EU Single Market. 

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Legin replied to BIRMINGHAMisaDUMP | 1 year ago
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BIRMINGHAMisaDUMP wrote:

Northern Ireland is doing OK. - even your PM admits to the unique and privileged position NI is in with unrestricted access to the EU Single Market. 

He's not my PM, I don't vote for fascist governments. As for Northern Ireland I do care about maintaining the peace, I'm ****ing outraged that to do so one part of the UK is given patently preferential treatment above the rest. It's a bit like a government only interested in feathering the nest of 1% of the population. 

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eburtthebike | 1 year ago
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Councillors call in the cops to "assist" with cyclists ignoring dismount signs

I hope some kind soul has pointed out to the police that the round "No Cycling" sign isn't legal because it doesn't have a diagonal red line through it?yes  Or maybe that's why they weren't enforcing it?

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mark1a replied to eburtthebike | 1 year ago
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eburtthebike wrote:

Councillors call in the cops to "assist" with cyclists ignoring dismount signs

I hope some kind soul has pointed out to the police that the round "No Cycling" sign isn't legal because it doesn't have a diagonal red line through it?yes  Or maybe that's why they weren't enforcing it?

It doesn't need a diagonal line, the red circle means prohibited. 

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eburtthebike replied to mark1a | 1 year ago
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mark1a wrote:

eburtthebike wrote:

Councillors call in the cops to "assist" with cyclists ignoring dismount signs

I hope some kind soul has pointed out to the police that the round "No Cycling" sign isn't legal because it doesn't have a diagonal red line through it?yes  Or maybe that's why they weren't enforcing it?

It doesn't need a diagonal line, the red circle means prohibited. 

Welcome to satire.  What did you think the grinning emoji meant?

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Simon E replied to eburtthebike | 1 year ago
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eburtthebike wrote:

Councillors call in the cops to "assist" with cyclists ignoring dismount signs

Is this a good use of police time?

We're told that budgets have been cut, resources are stretched and it takes too much effort to prosecute illegal smartphone use, speeding, vehicles reported with no tax or MoT etc etc... but CYCLISTS causing some bother madam? We'll be down right away and teach them little bastards a lesson!

I wonder whether they asked why some people might choose to cycle along the pavement instead of on the A316.

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eburtthebike replied to Simon E | 1 year ago
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Simon E wrote:

eburtthebike wrote:

Councillors call in the cops to "assist" with cyclists ignoring dismount signs

Is this a good use of police time?

Of course it is!  I have it on good authority, well, from some other posters on this site, that cyclists mow down and kill thousands of people every year, so the first call on police time should be controlling them.  Definitely not wasting it on stopping drivers for tiny, insignificant infractions like knocking off cyclists.

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eburtthebike | 1 year ago
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Formula 1 drivers banned from cycling the 'track walk'

Well of course: they don't have a flame-proof suit, F1 helmet or fire extinguishers, so cycling around would be extremely dangerous.  And don't start me on the risk to pedestrians.

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nniff | 1 year ago
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Lower Mortlake Road is not a great place to be.  Two lanes each way, with speed cameras (which of course are there for a reason - as sudden braking, acceleration and lane change markers).  On the other side of the road from the esteemed councilors and police, there is a cycle path of sorts - one of those ones that's really a pavement, but with a bit of faded paint and beset by side roads. Until of course it gets to the 'fuckit point', which is where cycling infrastructure and a greater need for it collide, and the former disappears.

 

 

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pockstone replied to nniff | 1 year ago
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I would have been more impressed to see a picture of our intrepid councillors leading by example and cycling along Lwr. Mortlake Road. (...not in the useless stop-start cycle lane over the road.)

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Awavey | 1 year ago
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Are bike shelves empty ? Can't say I'd noticed that. But I do enjoy a good lecture from someone who rides for a team owned by a billionaire, who is so bored with his money wants to buy a football team (old joke but its true whats the quickest way to become a millionaire, be a billionaire and buy a football team), whilst complaining about lack of funding for British teams and racing calendars which is squarely on British Cyclings shoulders, Tao youre hearts in the right place but maybe have a chat with Jim and the folks in Manchester about it.

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EddyBerckx replied to Awavey | 1 year ago
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Awavey wrote:

Are bike shelves empty ? Can't say I'd noticed that. But I do enjoy a good lecture from someone who rides for a team owned by a billionaire, who is so bored with his money wants to buy a football team (old joke but its true whats the quickest way to become a millionaire, be a billionaire and buy a football team), whilst complaining about lack of funding for British teams and racing calendars which is squarely on British Cyclings shoulders, Tao youre hearts in the right place but maybe have a chat with Jim and the folks in Manchester about it.

I'm really no fan of JimBrexitIneos but I don't get your rant? He's put his money into a British team in order to save it...maybe he could / should spend more on some lower level teams to save them too but not sure what Tao can do about it?

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dreamlx10 replied to EddyBerckx | 1 year ago
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An english team, plus Radcliffe is a brexit supporter who lives in Monaco

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Legin replied to Awavey | 1 year ago
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Awavey wrote:

Are bike shelves empty ? Can't say I'd noticed that. But I do enjoy a good lecture from someone who rides for a team owned by a billionaire, who is so bored with his money wants to buy a football team (old joke but its true whats the quickest way to become a millionaire, be a billionaire and buy a football team), whilst complaining about lack of funding for British teams and racing calendars which is squarely on British Cyclings shoulders, Tao youre hearts in the right place but maybe have a chat with Jim and the folks in Manchester about it.

He is lecturing nobody, you don't have to read it. Having chosen to read it you then link his employers financial status and investment in a pro team to the decline in UK racing, a link I am struggling to see. Then by suggesting Tao has a word you imply he is part of the problem. I think you lost me at "are".

Are you having a bad day?

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Awavey replied to Legin | 1 year ago
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the Qataris have bid 4.5 billion pounds to buy Man Utd, Jim Ratcliffe will have to at least match that bid if not exceed it just to buy the club, then he probably has to invest as much again, the stadium really needs to be modernised, buy and sell alot of players, sure he'll probably leverage debt against the club like the Glazers did. But no one ever really gets rich owning football clubs, they are money pits that you simply burn money investing in.

and yet for only 1% of that 4.5billion pounds, which is almost an accounting error or currency fluctuation, its loose change when you are dealing with sums of money that large Jim Ratcliffe could solve alot of the problems with sponsorship for other British teams and races in Britain in the blink of an eye

but he doesnt, theres no Team Ineos women's team,and no Ineos sponsored races, and never likely to be, has Tao ever asked Jim or Dave why not when he clearly has the money ?

the reality is its because it comes down to as thisismyusername says its a better business investment to spend 4.5billion pounds on a football club than put just a fraction of that money into pro cycling

and thats because as Jonathan Vaughters endlessly reminds people every year the financial model for pro cycling is fundamentally broken, the only people who make any money out of it are people like the ASO, everybody else loses.

fix that problem, and fix a governing body who dont really care about road racing, and things might improve.

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Legin replied to Awavey | 1 year ago
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His money, his choice.

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stonojnr | 1 year ago
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Close passes getting better ? Ymmv opinions definitely differ on that.

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peted76 | 1 year ago
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Ref the banning of bikes on track walks... this makes zero sense to me whatsoever..  is the story missing something or is a complete load of old tosh?

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kinderje replied to peted76 | 1 year ago
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If the track walk is open to the public, as the photo suggests, I can understand FIA stance as there are a lot of people wandering all over the track possibly not expecting anything other than walkers (so don't need to look where they're going).

But I'm happy to be corrected.

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stonojnr replied to kinderje | 1 year ago
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They're not usually open to the public, Spa might be the exception there.

It will either be some issue around providing medical back up/track personnel in case someone had an accident, and F1 (note not the FIA) are worried about liability, or they think its an advantage to complete laps at more than walking pace.

I wonder if the running events (media & team personnel have a running non competitive kind of parkrun thing around all the circuits track) have been stopped as well ? Might be a clue as to the issue.

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PRSboy | 1 year ago
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Funnily enough a neighbour who cycles regularly said she feels that passing has got safer since the highway code changes.

I dont think its got better or worse, but on the whole the vast majority are fine.  A minority pass me with plenty of space, but not safely in as much as there is an oncoming car or blind bend (I always feel bad for them as their hearts are in the right place).  A small percentage are bad, and I'm sorry to say are more often than not Audi drivers.

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Off the back replied to PRSboy | 1 year ago
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I get why the post exists but it's a sad world where we have to 'praise' the minimum acceptable standard and being anymore more. 

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Awavey replied to PRSboy | 1 year ago
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It's peaks and troughs I think, some days you will be pleasantly surprised, other days you wonder if someone's taken a contract out to kill you.

There seems no rhyme or reason to it, it just happens. I did 3 rides last week where I was in double figures each ride for close passes, some worse than others.

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IanMK replied to Awavey | 1 year ago
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I think my tolerance also varies. I had 2 very close passes on on one stretch of road this morning. I became very critical/sensitive to other passes that weren't the full 1.5m, whereas on other occasions I might not have noticed.

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Rik Mayals unde... replied to PRSboy | 1 year ago
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I invested in a Garmin Varia rear radar light last year. I have to say, unless it is extremely coincidental, I have noticed much safer overtakes since using it. Whereas I used to get regular close passes, they are now thankfully much rarer. If it is anything to do with the light, which flashes the light faster and brighter when it detects approaching traffic, then it was a very worthwhile investment.

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