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Police force slammed for "cycle like you drive" advice; Is this Cav's next team?; AG2R splash the cash on Jungels' BMC Masterpiece; Alpe d'Huez...on a Brompton; Beefeater Bend is back (+Tour de France Queen Stage); Tour scenes + more on the live blog

Dragged out of bed following a day in the gruppetto, Dan Alexander is battling on into the final mountain stage of the week (from the comfort of Thursday's live blog, admittedly) ...
14 July 2022, 16:31
Until tomorrow

Enjoy pretending to be Tom Pidcock on your evening ride later. Catch all the results, GC implications and jersey holders from stage 12 of the Tour de France over on our news story... 

14 July 2022, 10:28
"Cycle like you drive"

Here we go again...

Merseyside Police, undeterred by the frosty reception it got last time, have pushed their "cycle like you drive" social media tag, this time to let the public hear they had reported two cyclists for running red lights...

Amusingly, as pointed out by hirsute in the comments under here, someone replied with this...

Oh, and don't forget these too...

Another reply said: "This tweet is hugely misguided and based on two false assumptions: 1) that all cyclists drive (they don't); 2) that all motorists drive safely, respectfully and within the law (they definitely don't). You are between implicit bias and downright prejudice and should know better." 

While another pointed out the ironic timing of cycle like you drive getting another airing...*checks notes*...three days after four Merseyside Police officers were hospitalised in a serious crash involving two police cars.

Cycle like you drive...

14 July 2022, 15:59
SCENES
Pidcock Alpe d'Huez (GCN)

Well, well, well...

Without jinxing it Tom Pidcock is looking bloody good. 26 seconds clear of Louis Meintjes, Froome at 55...this is the stuff of legend...

In the peloton, Quintana, Vlasov and Gaudu have been dropped, meanwhile the Cofidis soigneur snuck a cheeky bottle to Romain Bardet. Allez Les Bleus...

14 July 2022, 15:37
Tom Pidcock casually sinks a three-pointer while climbing Alpe d'Huez...
14 July 2022, 15:22
This is a work event

Alpe d'Huez has been a hive of activity for a couple of days now...

Here's what will greet the riders shortly...get your bingo card ready: Dutch corner, Beefeater Bend, some knob with a flare, angry French police, a member of the gruppetto downing a beer, Sagan doing a wheelie...

The break: Chris Froome, Tom Pidcock, Giulio Ciccone, Louis Meintjes, Neilson Powless are less than 5km from the big one...get any last snacks and beverages at the ready...IT'S TIME!!!

14 July 2022, 07:48
Is this a clue about Cav’s next team?

Last night, Simon attended an event in London and did his best private investigator impression, leading us down a path of everything makes sense or wild speculation or both, perhaps? You decide for yourselves...

I'll hand you over to Simon...

If you're a long-term reader of road.cc, you'll know that we don't exactly go into the minutiae of who is going where during transfer season. But you'll also know that we keep a keen eye out for where certain riders may be headed when they are finding a new team.

And while he may no longer be the hottest property around, we know that many of you will be interested in where Mark Cavendish ends up next season, and whether he'll get a crack at that 35th stage win to move him ahead of Eddy Merckx.

Mark Cavendish, British road race championships 2022 (Alex Whitehead/SWpix.com)

Quick-Step Alpha Vinyl boss Patrick Lefevre made it clear earlier this week that Cavendish – winner of the points jersey last year and four stages to draw him level with Merckx, but dropped this year for Fabio Jakobsen – no longer figures in the team's plans.

And much has been said and written about the British champion's future since then.
Did we get a glimpse of where that may lie last night? Well, perhaps.

Mark Cavendish Stage 10 Valence (via Eurosport/GCN)

We've had a few discussions in the road.cc office in the past fortnight about where he might end up, but most teams we think of has either an overall contender, or a sprinter on its roster for next year.

Bar one, and it was at a party to celebrate that team's participation in the Tour de France, and its women's team's upcoming debut at Le Tour Femmes, that we spotted Cav yesterday evening at an event held by kit supplier Rapha in partnership with Palace Skate.

Mark Cavendish Rapha (copyright Simon MacMichael)

Few team bosses are as shrewd business-wise as EF Education-EasyPost's Jonathan Vaughters, and with a stage victory and polka dot shine from Magnus Cort, the US-registered team is having a great Tour.

So, seeing Cavendish yesterday evening at a function hosted by Rapha, the team's kit supplier, has got our thinking caps a bit overheated, perhaps – though bear in mind that our collective brains at road.cc have been overloading the past couple of weeks about where he might end up.

But think about it. A team that even 12 months from now may not have a top-3 GC contender, but which understands the PR value to sponsors that would come from Cavendish winning just one stage of next year's race?

Perhaps we're reading too much into him being present last night at an event hosted by the company that supplies the team's kit.

But could we also be looking at smoke and correctly finding the seat of the fire?
One thing we do know is that we'd love to see him ride next year's Tour de France … and to grab that record-breaking 35th stage win.

What do you reckon? Would you like to see Cav is EF pink next July?

14 July 2022, 14:47
New Forest drivers urged to obey speed limit to avoid collisions with cyclists and animals
Sportive riders and donkeys in the New Forest (CC BY-NC-SA 2.0 licenced by iNew Forest:Flickr)

​CC BY-NC-SA 2.0 licenced by iNew Forest:Flickr

Police in Hampshire have outlined advice to New Forest visitors driving to the area over the summer, and urged motorists to obey speed limits to avoid collisions with animals or cyclists.

Hampshire Live reports the county's constabulary has asked drivers to stick to the 40mph speed limit on all New Forest A-roads, while the park's website says: "Driver complacency has slowly crept back and although animal deaths stay significantly lower than before, the numbers are rising once again as drivers ignore a speed limit that isn’t easy to police throughout the whole of the New Forest."

Police told drivers to "expect to see animals on or near the road, pass slow and wide only when it is safe, and to stop and wait if needed" and "pass cyclists and walkers slow and wide when it is safe".

14 July 2022, 12:55
Chris Froome's on the attack (with Tom Pidcock)

How good a sight is this?

Chris Froome back at the pointy end of the Tour de France, attempting to bridge across to the breakaway on stage 12 with Tom Pidcock. Two generations of British talent meeting on an epic Alpine day...

Oh, Twitter's back too...

14 July 2022, 11:55
Introducing your future stage winner

Vamos! Nairoman to win the stage, Bardet second, both two minutes clear of Vingegaard and Pog... make it happen... 

14 July 2022, 11:21
The plot thickens
Live blog comment

Well that's pretty much confirmed then...

14 July 2022, 10:49
AG2R splash the cash on Jungels' BMC Masterpiece

A stage win for AG2R Citroën Team on Bastille Day up Alpe d'Huez would just about be as big as it gets for the French team, so no surprises to see them pulling out all the stops to get stage nine winner Bob Jungels the best ride possible...

The Masterpiece, BMC's most exclusive bike, comes in at £8,965 for JUST the frameset, so chuck in Campag's priciest wheels, a top-of-the-range groupset and all the best finishing kit money can buy and we reckon this could be close to £20,000. No pressure, Bob...

> Bike at Bedtime: check out the BMC Masterpiece

A reminder what BMC claimed about their masterpiece Masterpiece: "Driven only by perfection, each module is brought to life by the hands of the world's leading carbon fibre artisans. This unequalled fidelity allows each Masterpiece frame to emerge from its mould wanting for nothing, each perfect at birth, surfaces flawless, seams accurate."

Stop sniggering...I wonder if we could pay Magnus Cort for a review?

14 July 2022, 10:20
The clue's in the flags, David

10/10 comedy value for asking the man wearing 20+ Norwegian flags, stood at a bend swimming in the red, blue and white, where he's from...

It took a while, one hour 33 minutes to be precise, but Ned and David made it up today's Bastille Day summit finish on their Bromptons. The real challenge would be going back down...

14 July 2022, 10:04
Cycling UK welcomes Welsh 20mph speed limit
20mph sign (CC licensed by EdinburghGreens via Flickr)

The move by the Welsh Government demonstrates a continued commitment towards safer streets and more liveable neighbourhoods, which Cycling UK hopes is a bellwether for a wider national shift across the UK.

The Senedd has voted in favour of a default 20mph speed limit on restricted roads, typically residential and built-up areas with high pedestrian activity.  The introduction of the new limit will transform road safety for more vulnerable road user groups, as evidence clearly shows reducing speed limits is one of the simplest and most effective ways to reduce road casualties. 

> Wales set to reduce default speed limit to 20mph in residential areas 

14 July 2022, 08:59
Yes, people are blaming Pogačar's disc brakes

It's time...

The calculations came out...

Our tech team is absolutely delighted to be taking an in-depth look at this as we speak... 

14 July 2022, 08:39
Beefeater Bend is back

They're on their way...

Although there might be some sore heads... 

14 July 2022, 08:30
Climbing Alpe d'Huez... on a Brompton

Thoughts and prayers with Ned Boulting and, slightly less so considering his pro cyclist genetics, David Millar... it's 24°C at the minute and will be 27°C in an hour... better get climbing, chaps.

Reminds us of that 'challenge' a few years back when people tried to hire a Santander bike from London, drive to Alpe d'Huez, climb the famous mountain and drive back in time to avoid the penalty charge for not returning the ride within 24 hours...

> Video: Taking on Alpe d'Huez on a Santander Cycles hire bike

Dan is the road.cc news editor and joined in 2020 having previously written about nearly every other sport under the sun for the Express, and the weird and wonderful world of non-league football for The Non-League Paper. Dan has been at road.cc for four years and mainly writes news and tech articles as well as the occasional feature. He has hopefully kept you entertained on the live blog too.

Never fast enough to take things on the bike too seriously, when he's not working you'll find him exploring the south of England by two wheels at a leisurely weekend pace, or enjoying his favourite Scottish roads when visiting family. Sometimes he'll even load up the bags and ride up the whole way, he's a bit strange like that.

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ktache | 2 years ago
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Something from the institutional anti cycling guardian for the live blog tomorrow-

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2022/jul/14/briton-finishes-epic-us-...

Big smiling ginger beard!

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captain_slog | 2 years ago
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Yorkshireman wins on Alpe d'Huez: 'It’s not bad that, is it?'

As a native of God's own county myself I have to say, steady on lad, don't get carried away.

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CyclingInGawler replied to captain_slog | 2 years ago
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Great (as in, amazing) performance from TP Captain, and I'm sorry to disagree, but I think you'll find it's G who is from God's own country.......well, in my opinion anyway 😀

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Gimpl replied to CyclingInGawler | 2 years ago
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Exactly! 

Filthy Sais think they own everything yes

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Hirsute | 2 years ago
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brooksby | 2 years ago
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New Forest drivers urged to obey speed limit to avoid collisions with cyclists and animals

Cycle like you drive, eh?

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peted76 | 2 years ago
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Some days I can't help but get upset about peoples ignorance. 

A £1200 fine and three points for a close pass.. has brought some 'special types' out of the woodwork on FB -https://fb.watch/efUreSgAcg/

 

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Wingguy replied to peted76 | 2 years ago
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And even then he had been offered a driver's ed course. He wasn't fined £1200 for the offence, he was fined £1200 for demanding a court hearing.

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IanMSpencer replied to Wingguy | 2 years ago
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Quite. Like our Welsh businessman who clocked up thousands, so entitled to drive as they like that they can't see they are on a losing case. Bound to have a few thousand quid of solicitor's fees too. Result!

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Rendel Harris | 2 years ago
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So Mr Angry off Twitter says Pog would only lose 0.1kph at 20 kph on a 10% climb so it's meaningless...by my calculations that means on a 20km climb the rim brake rider would be 18 seconds ahead of the disc brake one if they were of identical weight and power. Which is quite significant: how many hours of climbing are there in the Tour, forty maybe? Twelve minutes! If the first Twitterer quoted is correct, it really does seem odd that you would choose to be 400g over the UCI limit. Of course it could be argued that discs allow one to descend faster, but I didn't notice Pog getting dropped on the descents with his rim brakes in previous tours.

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ktache | 2 years ago
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According to government stats, given the opportunity 85% of motorists exceed the 20mph speed limit, going up to 90% at the weekend.

I don't use my phone when I cycle, even if I did it wouldn't be against the law or be an offence that costs me 1/2 my licence. And I do not drive. How on earth can I possibly cycleliketheydrive?

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jh2727 replied to ktache | 2 years ago
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ktache wrote:

According to government stats, given the opportunity 85% of motorists exceed the 20mph speed limit, going up to 90% at the weekend.

I don't use my phone when I cycle, even if I did it wouldn't be against the law or be an offence that costs me 1/2 my licence. And I do not drive. How on earth can I possibly cycleliketheydrive?

Yes, but how many of those speeding motorists cycle regularly (I'd wager that a larger proportion of that 10/15% cycle regularly)? They didn't say cycle like other motorists drive, they said cycle how you (a cyclist) drive.  Still would have been better if they said drive how cyclists drive.

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Mungecrundle | 2 years ago
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Cycle like you drive? Round town I try and cycle like I motorcycle, except its like being on a small and horribly, horribly underpowered moped.

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espressodan | 2 years ago
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My prediction too!

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Dnnnnnn | 2 years ago
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Yes, people are blaming Pogačar's disc brakes

Discbait.

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Global Nomad replied to Dnnnnnn | 2 years ago
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just be glad we dont get Rimbait

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Hirsute | 2 years ago
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Hopefully road.cc will make a news article out of this one

https://twitter.com/nicucalcea/status/1546823856077381632

The traffic that was once flowing through motorways and other major rows is now spilling into your backstreet.

In London, this shift is clear from data published by@DfTstats. This sudden change coincided with the growing popularity of navigation apps like@googlemaps and

 
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brooksby replied to Hirsute | 2 years ago
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It sometimes seems that people will take a longer, more winding route through back streets so long as they can keep moving.

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visionset replied to brooksby | 2 years ago
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If only there was another way to satiate the desire to keep moving...

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brooksby | 2 years ago
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North Somerset council is considering making the speed limit through Ham Green, Pill, and Easton-in-Gordano 20 mph.  Given that it's not a main road - nobody would go into those villages unless they lived there or had business there, they'd just stay on the main A369 - it would seem to make sense.  That being said, and for that reason, any speeding through the villages (and there is a lot) is clearly already being carried out by residents.

The North Somerset Times has an article about it here:

North Somerset village earmarked for new 20mph zone

https://www.northsomersettimes.co.uk/news/pill-20mph-speed-limit-9138354

but check out the picture they have used to illustrate how it will make "a safer place for people to walk and cycle".  I'm pretty sure that the council is thinking more about children and utility cyclists, but the North Somerset Times clearly can't think in those terms... 

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Dnnnnnn replied to brooksby | 2 years ago
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Hirsute replied to brooksby | 2 years ago
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brooksby, HP, fatladattheback !!

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brooksby replied to Hirsute | 2 years ago
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hirsute wrote:

brooksby, HP, fatladattheback !!

It's embarrassing to admit, hirsute, but I have never actually ridden a bike with drop handlebars! 

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Hirsute replied to brooksby | 2 years ago
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What!
No drops, no lyrca. I suppose you don't have a cycle computer either!

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brooksby replied to Hirsute | 2 years ago
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'Fraid not  4

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Hirsute replied to brooksby | 2 years ago
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I suppose you have cycle clips !

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brooksby replied to Hirsute | 2 years ago
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Never.

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chrisonabike replied to Hirsute | 2 years ago
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You should watch him pull a wheelie on his "ordinary" though.

Or was it a balance bike?  Or a unicycle?  Can't keep track of people these days.  Some of them keep changing their name too...

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quiff replied to brooksby | 2 years ago
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brooksby wrote:

hirsute wrote:

brooksby, HP, fatladattheback !!

It's embarrassing to admit, hirsute, but I have never actually ridden a bike with drop handlebars! 

I have various different bikes, but they all have two things in common. (1) They all have drop bars. (2) I almost never use the drops.

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belugabob replied to brooksby | 2 years ago
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brooksby wrote:

North Somerset council is considering making the speed limit through Ham Green, Pill, and Easton-in-Gordano 20 mph.  Given that it's not a main road - nobody would go into those villages unless they lived there or had business there, they'd just stay on the main A369 - it would seem to make sense.  That being said, and for that reason, any speeding through the villages (and there is a lot) is clearly already being carried out by residents.

I concur - my daily dog walks involve walking along a section of road that only makes sense to use if you are a resident, a bus driver, or a courier.
Very few people, from any of these categories, seem to have the slightest clue about or respect for the 30 mph limit.

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