Police force slammed for “cycle like you drive” advice; Is this Cav’s next team?; AG2R splash the cash on Jungels’ BMC Masterpiece; Alpe d’Huez…on a Brompton; Beefeater Bend is back (+Tour de France Queen Stage); Tour scenes + more on the live blog
SUMMARY
Climbing Alpe d'Huez... on a Brompton
— Ned Boulting 🇫🇷 🚲 (@nedboulting) July 14, 2022
Thoughts and prayers with Ned Boulting and, slightly less so considering his pro cyclist genetics, David Millar… it’s 24°C at the minute and will be 27°C in an hour… better get climbing, chaps.
Reminds us of that ‘challenge’ a few years back when people tried to hire a Santander bike from London, drive to Alpe d’Huez, climb the famous mountain and drive back in time to avoid the penalty charge for not returning the ride within 24 hours…
> Video: Taking on Alpe d’Huez on a Santander Cycles hire bike
Beefeater Bend is back
They’re on their way…
Bend 20 here we come! pic.twitter.com/RpDDuI6Wwk
— Beefeater Bend🎶🍻 (@tdfbeefeaters) July 14, 2022
Although there might be some sore heads…
It’s 11.25pm and I think that’s some sort of bin lorry.🤷♂️ pic.twitter.com/7zU9jGFdFC
— Beefeater Bend🎶🍻 (@tdfbeefeaters) July 13, 2022
Yes, people are blaming Pogačar's disc brakes
It’s time…
Pogacar/UAE not using rim brakes on yesterday’s stage is insane. Even his new Colnago is >400g over the UCI minimum weight. In a sport where the smallest of details can be a huge factor this is unintelligible. #TDF2022 pic.twitter.com/x2MzfE8UWW
— Luc Grefte (@LucGrefte) July 14, 2022
The calculations came out…
A fun bit of Maths for the weight weenies – Pogacar having 400g extra weight on his bikes for ‘Heavy’ disc brakes – Could have cost him 0.1kph, in other words absolutley f**k all.. so stop worrying about your own wieght or your bikes weight, and focus on fueling well! https://t.co/epLdljSFGl
— Jacob Tipper ️ (@JacobTipper) July 14, 2022
Our tech team is absolutely delighted to be taking an in-depth look at this as we speak…
Cycling UK welcomes Welsh 20mph speed limit
The move by the Welsh Government demonstrates a continued commitment towards safer streets and more liveable neighbourhoods, which Cycling UK hopes is a bellwether for a wider national shift across the UK.
The Senedd has voted in favour of a default 20mph speed limit on restricted roads, typically residential and built-up areas with high pedestrian activity. The introduction of the new limit will transform road safety for more vulnerable road user groups, as evidence clearly shows reducing speed limits is one of the simplest and most effective ways to reduce road casualties.
> Wales set to reduce default speed limit to 20mph in residential areas
The clue's in the flags, David
10/10 comedy value for asking the man wearing 20+ Norwegian flags, stood at a bend swimming in the red, blue and white, where he’s from…
Never gets old… #TDF2022 pic.twitter.com/XT5yHW3E8N
— David Millar (@millarmind) July 14, 2022
It took a while, one hour 33 minutes to be precise, but Ned and David made it up today’s Bastille Day summit finish on their Bromptons. The real challenge would be going back down…
Up or down?
— Bill Hulley (@billhulley) July 14, 2022
AG2R splash the cash on Jungels' BMC Masterpiece
A stage win for AG2R Citroën Team on Bastille Day up Alpe d’Huez would just about be as big as it gets for the French team, so no surprises to see them pulling out all the stops to get stage nine winner Bob Jungels the best ride possible…
The Masterpiece, BMC’s most exclusive bike, comes in at £8,965 for JUST the frameset, so chuck in Campag’s priciest wheels, a top-of-the-range groupset and all the best finishing kit money can buy and we reckon this could be close to £20,000. No pressure, Bob…
> Bike at Bedtime: check out the BMC Masterpiece
A reminder what BMC claimed about their masterpiece Masterpiece: “Driven only by perfection, each module is brought to life by the hands of the world’s leading carbon fibre artisans. This unequalled fidelity allows each Masterpiece frame to emerge from its mould wanting for nothing, each perfect at birth, surfaces flawless, seams accurate.”
Stop sniggering…I wonder if we could pay Magnus Cort for a review?
The plot thickens
Well that’s pretty much confirmed then…
Introducing your future stage winner
He’s ready. pic.twitter.com/FTIEdRwi5v
— Cycling out of context (@OutOfCycling) July 14, 2022
Vamos! Nairoman to win the stage, Bardet second, both two minutes clear of Vingegaard and Pog… make it happen…
Chris Froome's on the attack (with Tom Pidcock)
How good a sight is this?
Chris Froome back at the pointy end of the Tour de France, attempting to bridge across to the breakaway on stage 12 with Tom Pidcock. Two generations of British talent meeting on an epic Alpine day…
Oh, Twitter’s back too…
Hands up if you’re on the attack today 🙋♂️
What a time for Twitter to go down! While we were offline, Guy Niv launched an attack, followed by @chrisfroome 👊
Chris is with Pidcock, 1’10” behind the breakaway with 120km to go. The peloton is 55″ behind the duo.
🇫🇷 #TDF2022 pic.twitter.com/rWRs2YHOnQ
— Israel – Premier Tech / Israel Cycling Academy (@IsraelPremTech) July 14, 2022
New Forest drivers urged to obey speed limit to avoid collisions with cyclists and animals
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Police in Hampshire have outlined advice to New Forest visitors driving to the area over the summer, and urged motorists to obey speed limits to avoid collisions with animals or cyclists.
Hampshire Live reports the county’s constabulary has asked drivers to stick to the 40mph speed limit on all New Forest A-roads, while the park’s website says: “Driver complacency has slowly crept back and although animal deaths stay significantly lower than before, the numbers are rising once again as drivers ignore a speed limit that isn’t easy to police throughout the whole of the New Forest.”
Police told drivers to “expect to see animals on or near the road, pass slow and wide only when it is safe, and to stop and wait if needed” and “pass cyclists and walkers slow and wide when it is safe”.
Is this a clue about Cav’s next team?
Last night, Simon attended an event in London and did his best private investigator impression, leading us down a path of everything makes sense or wild speculation or both, perhaps? You decide for yourselves…
I’ll hand you over to Simon…
If you’re a long-term reader of road.cc, you’ll know that we don’t exactly go into the minutiae of who is going where during transfer season. But you’ll also know that we keep a keen eye out for where certain riders may be headed when they are finding a new team.
And while he may no longer be the hottest property around, we know that many of you will be interested in where Mark Cavendish ends up next season, and whether he’ll get a crack at that 35th stage win to move him ahead of Eddy Merckx.
Quick-Step Alpha Vinyl boss Patrick Lefevre made it clear earlier this week that Cavendish – winner of the points jersey last year and four stages to draw him level with Merckx, but dropped this year for Fabio Jakobsen – no longer figures in the team’s plans.
And much has been said and written about the British champion’s future since then.
Did we get a glimpse of where that may lie last night? Well, perhaps.
We’ve had a few discussions in the road.cc office in the past fortnight about where he might end up, but most teams we think of has either an overall contender, or a sprinter on its roster for next year.
Bar one, and it was at a party to celebrate that team’s participation in the Tour de France, and its women’s team’s upcoming debut at Le Tour Femmes, that we spotted Cav yesterday evening at an event held by kit supplier Rapha in partnership with Palace Skate.
Few team bosses are as shrewd business-wise as EF Education-EasyPost’s Jonathan Vaughters, and with a stage victory and polka dot shine from Magnus Cort, the US-registered team is having a great Tour.
So, seeing Cavendish yesterday evening at a function hosted by Rapha, the team’s kit supplier, has got our thinking caps a bit overheated, perhaps – though bear in mind that our collective brains at road.cc have been overloading the past couple of weeks about where he might end up.
But think about it. A team that even 12 months from now may not have a top-3 GC contender, but which understands the PR value to sponsors that would come from Cavendish winning just one stage of next year’s race?
Perhaps we’re reading too much into him being present last night at an event hosted by the company that supplies the team’s kit.
But could we also be looking at smoke and correctly finding the seat of the fire?
One thing we do know is that we’d love to see him ride next year’s Tour de France … and to grab that record-breaking 35th stage win.
What do you reckon? Would you like to see Cav is EF pink next July?
This is a work event
Great work from @petewithtweet 🤣 pic.twitter.com/KhlOT3fK3l
— Beefeater Bend🎶🍻 (@tdfbeefeaters) July 14, 2022
Alpe d’Huez has been a hive of activity for a couple of days now…
Here’s what will greet the riders shortly…get your bingo card ready: Dutch corner, Beefeater Bend, some knob with a flare, angry French police, a member of the gruppetto downing a beer, Sagan doing a wheelie…
🇫🇷 #TDF2022
Madness awaits on Alpe d’Huez. 🎉 pic.twitter.com/GVdqSGr76V
— Team Jumbo-Visma cycling (@JumboVismaRoad) July 14, 2022
Continuing our Alpe d’Huez atmosphere thread 🧵 #TDF2022 pic.twitter.com/l3eEEgwPbr
— Trek-Segafredo (@TrekSegafredo) July 14, 2022
The break: Chris Froome, Tom Pidcock, Giulio Ciccone, Louis Meintjes, Neilson Powless are less than 5km from the big one…get any last snacks and beverages at the ready…IT’S TIME!!!
Tom Pidcock casually sinks a three-pointer while climbing Alpe d'Huez...
🗑 Right in the trash, thanks @tompidcock!
🗑 Directement dans la poubelle, merci @tompidcock !#TDF2022 | #LAveniraVélo pic.twitter.com/k1sYvsTUdB
— Tour de France™ (@LeTour) July 14, 2022
SCENES
Well, well, well…
Without jinxing it Tom Pidcock is looking bloody good. 26 seconds clear of Louis Meintjes, Froome at 55…this is the stuff of legend…
In the peloton, Quintana, Vlasov and Gaudu have been dropped, meanwhile the Cofidis soigneur snuck a cheeky bottle to Romain Bardet. Allez Les Bleus…
Welcome to Alpe d’Huez, Tom Pidcock!#TDF2022 #ITVCycling pic.twitter.com/czBcPttRQy
— ITV Cycling (@itvcycling) July 14, 2022
"Cycle like you drive"
Here we go again…
Merseyside Police, undeterred by the frosty reception it got last time, have pushed their “cycle like you drive” social media tag, this time to let the public hear they had reported two cyclists for running red lights…
2 pedal cyclists reported in as many minutes after both observed contravening red traffic lights. First at Kensington and the second at Durning Road. Remember folks, #CYCLELIKEYOUDRIVE (red lights are for cyclists too) #MRPU #SYN1 pic.twitter.com/AxV5ikitx4
— Roads Policing Unit (@MerPolTraffic) July 13, 2022
Amusingly, as pointed out by hirsute in the comments under here, someone replied with this…
‘Cycle like you drive’. I don’t want to kill 5 people every day and injure 30k per year. Really poor show pic.twitter.com/s7WxRjebRY
— Herzberg (@herzberg19) July 13, 2022
Oh, and don’t forget these too…
#CYCLELIKEYOUDRIVE https://t.co/17fbODDbBJ
— TBSteve (@TBStevesPix) July 13, 2022
#CYCLELIKEYOUDRIVE https://t.co/jx5YAtofAF
— TBSteve (@TBStevesPix) July 13, 2022
#CYCLELIKEYOUDRIVE https://t.co/D3FfWxJZr9
— TBSteve (@TBStevesPix) July 13, 2022
Another reply said: “This tweet is hugely misguided and based on two false assumptions: 1) that all cyclists drive (they don’t); 2) that all motorists drive safely, respectfully and within the law (they definitely don’t). You are between implicit bias and downright prejudice and should know better.”
While another pointed out the ironic timing of cycle like you drive getting another airing…*checks notes*…three days after four Merseyside Police officers were hospitalised in a serious crash involving two police cars.
Cycle like you drive…
Until tomorrow
I’m going for a bike ride because how can you not after watching that.
— Simon Warren (@100Climbs) July 14, 2022
Enjoy pretending to be Tom Pidcock on your evening ride later. Catch all the results, GC implications and jersey holders from stage 12 of the Tour de France over on our news story…
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As always we get half truths. The number of bikes and cameras needed for the current coverage, is that any different to full coverage? I would say no, it’s the same number of cameras just working for longer. They don’t magically change camera bike riders mid stage so I don’t see that as an extra cost. Perhaps the helicopter camera for longer is an additional cost. Commentary - that comes from the broadcaster and not a cost of the organiser. TV broadcast costs - again minimal for the host, but given we’re in the age of streaming if they are offered the rights owner will likely broadcast them. So far the tour has been great but missing the key parts of each stage is pretty poor. The fact it only became normal on the men’s recently is irrelevant - that was the era of broadcast TV not streaming.
We are talking about the Highway Agency here. You know the same ones that think it is perfectly acceptable for a cycle lane to stop just before an exit or entry spur on a carriageway. Or the same ones who thought it was better to infill disused railway bridges and so block local paths, rather than actually spend the money on fixing the issue. Motorised traffic is their only concern. If you use the Dartford Bridge bike service you need to be very sure of your cycling skills and confident of your route to get to the pickup point, it is not for the faint of heart. The service itself is excellent, just a shame you have to risk your life to get to it.
Maybe Shimano will do the same with 13 speed road as on CUES, the largest sprocket is dished inward and hangs slightly in bound of the free hub, so the 11 speed CUES fits on a 10 speed free hub
I wonder what happens when they're not trolling here. Does that mean life's going well and they don't feel the need? I hope so. Or are they doing the same thing in rotation on a cooking / photography / historical re-enactment forum?
Either: Close the road to all vehicles except EVs. This seems an obvious solution to me. Or: if it's a dual carriageway, make all traffic use one side as a bi-directional single lane carriageway, and leave the other side for cyclists and pedestrians. At least then they could ride a bit further away from the fumes (but not much).
Agreed, if you want to kill someone a motor vehicle gives the least punishment. Unless you reverse back over them, that's a bit of a giveaway. I am not even joking, it's happened before
If interested GCN did an interesting video about this (albeit with a heavy focus on one contributor): https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dHRfClVJg70&pp=ugUHEgVlbi1HQtIHCQlkAqO1ajebQw%3D%3D
I agree about the nonsense around the two offences *. As others have suggested, while the law should be applied perhaps taking a step back and moving focus from a legal framing towards a "health and safety" perspective would be productive? * I believe these were created in the first place to "drain the drama" / remove the "but they didn't mean to" factor since it was noted people were reluctant to convict killer drivers for eg. murder and manslaughter. Alas "they didn't mean to" has followed, thus we see the "incompetence defense".
The ski jumpers are puting ali kind of stuff in their underwear to increase lift. Here we have something similar 😄
Having once been blown off my bike by a tunneled gust by Centre Point tower, much to the amusement of the black cab driver next to me, this looks fit to hugely enhance black cab driver amusement.
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Could be a good match, IF
Cav and EF. Could be a good match, IF they could get a proper sprint train together. Bisseger could be a decent man-5 and Bettiol, a world-class man-3. Add a proper lead-out man and a good man-4 and Cav’d have a chance.
I’d love to see it but you’re
I’d love to see it but you’re right, EF aren’t currently a sprint team. And bike sponsorship could be an issue.
Or he could just go off on a mad ride to Tierra del Fuego with Lachlan Morton. I’d love to see that too.
Rumoured to be Carapaz’s team
EF are rumoured to be Carapaz’s team next year. If so, they will have a GC contender in their ranks.
I see merseyside police are
I see merseyside police are as unrepentant as the PM
cyclelikeyoudrive bollocks again
someone replied with
Vehicle users! Don’t waste
Vehicle users! Don’t waste time trying to fix your vehicle when you’re out. Just carry a spare on your roof.
I have been looking at this
I have been looking at this picture all day and I still can’t work out a plausible explanation for it. I assume the VW somehow came off the bridge above but I struggle to understand how.
And I speak as someone with 35 years of driving experience and generally low expectations for competence from fellow road users.
Clipped the car behind, when
Clipped the car behind, when airborne slightly and turned then caught the van which pushed it up. Perhaps.
I was thinking of this to start the manoeuvre
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.carscoops.com/2021/12/land-rover-discovery-sport-flips-over-after-running-into-toyota-gr-yaris-in-roundabout/amp/
Foolish driver in a “car”
Foolish driver in a “car” transporter I believe.
SimoninSpalding wrote:
See photo in this tweet. It fell off a transporter.
https://twitter.com/ScottGalbraith7/status/1547315947077357571
Yeah, cycle like you drive (I
Yeah, cycle like you drive (I’ll just use this one again).
North Somerset council is
North Somerset council is considering making the speed limit through Ham Green, Pill, and Easton-in-Gordano 20 mph. Given that it’s not a main road – nobody would go into those villages unless they lived there or had business there, they’d just stay on the main A369 – it would seem to make sense. That being said, and for that reason, any speeding through the villages (and there is a lot) is clearly already being carried out by residents.
The North Somerset Times has an article about it here:
North Somerset village earmarked for new 20mph zone
https://www.northsomersettimes.co.uk/news/pill-20mph-speed-limit-9138354
but check out the picture they have used to illustrate how it will make “a safer place for people to walk and cycle”. I’m pretty sure that the council is thinking more about children and utility cyclists, but the North Somerset Times clearly can’t think in those terms…
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brooksby, HP, fatladattheback
brooksby, HP, fatladattheback !!
hirsute wrote:
It’s embarrassing to admit, hirsute, but I have never actually ridden a bike with drop handlebars!
What!
What!
No drops, no lyrca. I suppose you don’t have a cycle computer either!
‘Fraid not
‘Fraid not 😀
I suppose you have cycle
I suppose you have cycle clips !
Never.
Never.
You should watch him pull a
You should watch him pull a wheelie on his “ordinary” though.
Or was it a balance bike? Or a unicycle? Can’t keep track of people these days. Some of them keep changing their name too…
brooksby wrote:
I have various different bikes, but they all have two things in common. (1) They all have drop bars. (2) I almost never use the drops.
brooksby wrote:
I concur – my daily dog walks involve walking along a section of road that only makes sense to use if you are a resident, a bus driver, or a courier.
Very few people, from any of these categories, seem to have the slightest clue about or respect for the 30 mph limit.
Hopefully road.cc will make a
Hopefully road.cc will make a news article out of this one
https://twitter.com/nicucalcea/status/1546823856077381632
The traffic that was once flowing through motorways and other major rows is now spilling into your backstreet.
It sometimes seems that
It sometimes seems that people will take a longer, more winding route through back streets so long as they can keep moving.
If only there was another way
If only there was another way to satiate the desire to keep moving…
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Discbait.
just be glad we dont get
just be glad we dont get Rimbait
My prediction too!
My prediction too!
Cycle like you drive? Round
Cycle like you drive? Round town I try and cycle like I motorcycle, except its like being on a small and horribly, horribly underpowered moped.
According to government stats
According to government stats, given the opportunity 85% of motorists exceed the 20mph speed limit, going up to 90% at the weekend.
I don’t use my phone when I cycle, even if I did it wouldn’t be against the law or be an offence that costs me 1/2 my licence. And I do not drive. How on earth can I possibly cycleliketheydrive?
ktache wrote:
Yes, but how many of those speeding motorists cycle regularly (I’d wager that a larger proportion of that 10/15% cycle regularly)? They didn’t say cycle like other motorists drive, they said cycle how you (a cyclist) drive. Still would have been better if they said drive how cyclists drive.
Some days I can’t help but
Some days I can’t help but get upset about peoples ignorance.
A £1200 fine and three points for a close pass.. has brought some ‘special types’ out of the woodwork on FB -https://fb.watch/efUreSgAcg/
And even then he had been
And even then he had been offered a driver’s ed course. He wasn’t fined £1200 for the offence, he was fined £1200 for demanding a court hearing.
Quite. Like our Welsh
Quite. Like our Welsh businessman who clocked up thousands, so entitled to drive as they like that they can’t see they are on a losing case. Bound to have a few thousand quid of solicitor’s fees too. Result!
So Mr Angry off Twitter says
So Mr Angry off Twitter says Pog would only lose 0.1kph at 20 kph on a 10% climb so it’s meaningless…by my calculations that means on a 20km climb the rim brake rider would be 18 seconds ahead of the disc brake one if they were of identical weight and power. Which is quite significant: how many hours of climbing are there in the Tour, forty maybe? Twelve minutes! If the first Twitterer quoted is correct, it really does seem odd that you would choose to be 400g over the UCI limit. Of course it could be argued that discs allow one to descend faster, but I didn’t notice Pog getting dropped on the descents with his rim brakes in previous tours.
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Cycle like you drive, eh?
Cycle like you drive
Cycle like you drive
https://mobile.twitter.com/KionnePotter/status/1547511434564849665
Yorkshireman wins on Alpe d
Yorkshireman wins on Alpe d’Huez: ‘It’s not bad that, is it?’
As a native of God’s own county myself I have to say, steady on lad, don’t get carried away.
Great (as in, amazing)
Great (as in, amazing) performance from TP Captain, and I’m sorry to disagree, but I think you’ll find it’s G who is from God’s own country…….well, in my opinion anyway ?
Exactly!
Exactly!
Filthy Sais think they own everything
Something from the
Something from the institutional anti cycling guardian for the live blog tomorrow-
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2022/jul/14/briton-finishes-epic-us-cycle-ride-for-multiple-sclerosis-fundraising
Big smiling ginger beard!