Do not frighten drivers and keep the noise down: Richmond Park’s new code of conduct for cyclists; Drum and bass bicycle tour; Kick in the teeth bike rack; Jesus Christ, your dog bit me!; Giro breakaway day; Paris before and after + more on the live blog
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Cyclist claims Jesus of Nazareth actor's cockapoo bit him in London park
A London cyclist was surprised to discover that the cockapoo he claims bit him is owned by Jesus of Nazareth and Holby City actor Robert Powell. Karzan Wali posted the photo below on local neighbourhood app Nextdoor and received numerous replies of, “Jesus Christ”…
The cyclist says he was riding across Hampstead Heath when the actor’s dog ran towards him and bit him on the leg, leaving a wound that needed hospital treatment and a tetanus jab. Powell denies his cockapoo bit the cyclist and insists all it did was bark at him.
“My dog has never bitten anybody in her life,” Powell told the Mail on Sunday. “I saw his leg and there is not a mark on it. The dog did not bite him. I even made a joke while the dog was yapping and said, ‘See, even the dog knows you can’t ride a bike here’.
“He was riding an off-road bicycle which is illegal and I told him, ‘You’re not allowed to ride a bike here’. He skidded to a halt and all my dog did was yap at him.”
While cycling is not allowed on some of the park’s paths, Wali says that at the time of the incident he was riding on one that permitted cycling.
“The dog owner was very inconsiderate and rude, didn’t apologise and also didn’t believe me that the dog bit me,” Wali explained. “I can assure you, I got bitten and had to get a tetanus jab and am now on antibiotics as the bite marks are red and sore. Be aware of this owner and the dogs, especially cyclists.”
Metropolitan Police confirmed they are investigating an allegation of a person allowing a dog to be dangerously out of control in Hampstead Heath Park, but no arrest has been made.
"Ah f**k, I'm going to make it, what the f**k": All the best reaction to Taco van der Hoorn's surprise stage three breakaway win
Taco van der Hoorn is the first rider named after a fast-food ingredient to win a Giro stage since Iban Mayo won Stage 19 in 2007
— Cillian Kelly (@irishpeloton) May 10, 2021
That is the calibre of stat I enjoy…Taco van der Hoorn was understandably shocked to have won the second road stage of the Giro d’Italia. The 500-1 shot could not contain his excitement speaking to the media: “I can’t believe it. With 1km to go I was looking behind to see…’ah f**k, I’m going to make it, what the f**k.’ Those last metres were really unbelievable.
“I wanted to be in the breakaway because I want to ride aggressively the entire Giro. But I know it is difficult to make it to the finish with a leading group. But every chance, no matter how small, is one. Actually, I didn’t believe we could make it when the gap at 25 kilometres was one minute.”
Check out the passion in the Intermarché-Wanty-Gobert team car…
“COME ON TACO, EVERYBODY WITH YOU!!!”
Watch from the team car as @TacovanderHoorn wins Stage 3 of the @giroditalia 😍
🎥 @cyclingmedia_ag pic.twitter.com/kpjI594OgI
— Intermarché-Wanty-Gobert (@IntermarcheWG) May 11, 2021
Arjen Robben spotted riding home from FC Groningen match
Arjen Robben (30 career trophies) cycling home after winning 4-0 and grabbing a couple of assists with FC Gronigen.
Legend 🚴♂️
(via @RonvanderWeerd) pic.twitter.com/95OYfUMZKC
— ESPN FC (@ESPNFC) May 10, 2021
The Flying Dutchman has become The Cycling Dutchman…
Islabikes launches new 14" wheeled balance bike
Islabikes has added a new 14″ wheeled balance bike to their range, aimed at children around 3-years-old. The narrow stance is designed to help children learn the riding position ready for a bike with pedals. It shares the design of Islabikes’ smaller Rothan 12 but is suited for kids with an inside leg of 36cm upwards and at 3.4kg it is easily carried.
Director Dave Bowater explained the thinking behind the new bike: “the balance bike is the gateway to cycling for so many children and speaking as a parent of two, one of my proudest moments was watching them scoot off into the distance for the first time. By adding this larger size, we are now offering taller children the opportunity to get the very best introduction to cycling.”
Chris Boardman makes the case for cycle commuting to re-elected Mayor of Greater Manchester Andy Burnham
@Chris_Boardman Good video, but 1hr 15 for 8 miles? I don’t know the city, is there a cycle route for this trip?
— Ian Hancock 🏴 🇫🇷🇪🇺💙NHS (@hancock_i) May 11, 2021
Re-elected Mayor of Greater Manchester Andy Burnham expressed his desire to improve public transport options for Mancunians during this video following him on an eight-mile journey from Middleton to Media City. Showing us “the reality of public transport in Greater Manchester”, Burnham’s trip takes an hour and a quarter on the bus and tram, costing £5.30.
Seeing the video, Chris Boardman made the case for cycling…he tweeted: “If that trip was done 3 days a week by bike – realistic, leisurely 43mins each way – you’d save £1500 a year & 6 FULL DAYS of your life not commuting. Not to mention time/money saved not having to go to a gym. A FULL family holiday a year just be doing some commutes by bike…”
You don’t need to convince us, Chris. I am sold, and it seems plenty of other people are too…
Basically any journey in Manchester that isn’t going into the city and out again is far quicker by bike, everything outside that is so poorly served by public transport and your bus will definitely get stuck in horrendous traffic
— Hannah 🚲 (@theeyecollector) May 11, 2021
I did this this 2019. I live in a rural area but saved over £650 in a year swapping car/bus for a bike. I was fortunate though that both my offices had relatively safe routes with lots of cycle paths.https://t.co/oyXtsOEw96
— helen (@choink) May 11, 2021
I do this exact mileage 3 days a week saves me £50 a month in petrol, no gym fees, and takes the same time as the car 28 min. Droylsden-Chorlton
— Craig Taylor (@Cra1gTAylor) May 11, 2021
Kick in the teeth from orthodontist blocking bike rack with giant advert
Brace yourselves for this piece of advertising outside Wembley Orthodontic Practice in South Kenton. Guess all the pavement-blocking adverts in the picture below were not enough…
One of our readers, Richard, got in touch with the picture, but tooth be told we are not too sure about the story behind this apart from that it has presumably been put up without permission and might well soon be taken down.
"Look at these kids eh, not paying road tax and riding two abreast": Cycle school bus in action
I was caught behind the cutest traffic delay this morning. Safety first, such a good idea. Completely brightened my morning. #cycling #cyclinglife pic.twitter.com/bC0byYgYTZ
— Liz McGonigal (@LizMcGPR) May 10, 2021
Great to see another cycle school bus out on the roads this morning…and a good sense of humour too…
Bet they don’t pay road tax, and the highway code says you can’t cycle two abreast.🤪
— Now on 3 wheels (@4wheelstable) May 10, 2021
Ill-timed nature break by Peter Sagan helped Taco van der Hoorn's unlikely victory
We had the right strategy for today’s stage and we worked extremely hard. We gave our best, our 100%. We are a team that always races to win, not settle for second or third. @BORAhansgrohe @BORAGmbH @Hansgrohe_PR @iamspecialized @sportful @ride100percenthttps://t.co/ywWL1sX1tz
— Peter Sagan (@petosagan) May 10, 2021
Deceuninck-Quick-Step veteran Iljo Keisse revealed in his daily column for Het Nieuwsblad how an ill-timed stop at the side of the road helped Taco van der Hoorn stay away to win stage three of the Giro yesterday. Keisse explained that just as Bora-hansgrohe upped the pace after the long first climb, their team leader Peter Sagan answered the call of nature.
Whether Sagan took a piss, the piss or both is up to you, but the Quick-Step domestique believes the break stifled the rhythm of the chase. “In the descent of the climb, the peloton broke into four pieces,” he explained. “Which meant that Oss and Sagan took a lot of time to return. Bora-hansgrohe had already made up for a minute on the escapees, but had to wait for Sagan and start right from the start. Still a mistake from the leader.”
Well, well, well…we would love to tell you what is happening on stage four but unfortunately the grim Emilia-Romagna weather is giving the broadcasters some issues. What we do know is there is a big breakaway up the road and a fierce 4km climb near the finish.
Acclaimed German architect Helmut Jahn killed in collision with two drivers in Chicago
It is with great sadness we learned this weekend of the passing of Helmut Jahn, an architect whose unforgettable work is part of our architectural history. Works by Jahn/his firm include O’Hare Station w/its colorful waves of glass reminiscent of his work in nearby Terminal 1. pic.twitter.com/N1LpBKWEIh
— cta (@cta) May 10, 2021
Acclaimed German architect Helmut Jahn, who was so well-known he was one of the first to be dubbed a “starchitect”, has died after a collision with two drivers in the Chicago suburb of Campton Hills. Jahn, 81, was riding his bike on Saturday afternoon when he was reportedly hit by two drivers and pronounced dead at the scene.
Jahn was best known for his design of the Sony Centre in Berlin and Suvarnabhumi Airport in Bangkok, as well as the Thompson Centre in Chicago. In addition to being an award-winning architect, he taught the next generation, lecturing at the University of Illinois Chicago Campus, Harvard, Yale and the Illinois Institute of Technology.
Thibaut Pinot "one in million chance" of riding the Tour de France
FDJ team manager Mac Madiot believes there is a “one in a million chance” that Thibaut Pinot rides the Tour de France. Pinot has suffered the effects of a crash on the opening stage of the Tour last year, abandoning the Vuelta a España after two stages and struggling to find form at the Tour of the Alps.
The Frenchman was planning on competing at the Giro d’Italia but had to scrap that plan to focus on his recovery. With the Giro too soon, there had been speculation that Pinot, who turns 31 at the end of the month, could reset his sights on his home Grand Tour.
However, Madiot told Eurosport, “There is a one in a million chance he will be at the start of the Tour. The most important thing is that he fully recovers. We are not going to put pressure on him, that would be a mistake.”
After the recent Tour of the Alps, Pinot spoke about his injury troubles. “I’m only thinking about healing myself,” he said. “I would unnecessarily suffer and I would not be able to help the team. It’s not even a question of shape, but the pain in my back prevents me from performing well.”
Paris before and after
If you think your city will never change, watch this before/after video of Paris by @Jamesdestaffordpic.twitter.com/YlU3j8c9pa
— 21st Century Urban Planning & Mobility (@urbanthoughts11) May 10, 2021
A before and after from Paris, and one from closer to home…
Drum & race: DJ takes drum and bass on bicycle tour
Stop the count. The most peak Bristol moment has happened. DJ Dom Whiting went for a ninety minute spin around the streets with his decks on the handlebars, giving the people exactly what they want to hear on a Sunday afternoon…well, what some people want to hear.
He has taken his mobile rave across the south of England, from London to Bristol via Oxford, High Wycombe and Reading. Dom attracted a big crowd rolling behind on bikes and turned heads from confused locals…all delivered with a live stream to put Piers Corbyn’s grainy election day disaster to shame.
Joe Dombrowski wins stage four of the Giro d'Italia from the breakaway
📽️ Final kilometre, first times: first uphill finish, first win for @JoeDombro, first Maglia Rosa for @ADM_RossodiBuja.
📽️ Ultimo chilometro e prime volte.
Primo arrivo in salita, prima vittoria di @JoeDombro, prima Rosa di @ADM_RossodiBuja.Powered by @supersapiensinc #Giro pic.twitter.com/vrh5GXX4XW
— Giro d’Italia (@giroditalia) May 11, 2021
For the second consecutive day the breakaway outfoxed the peloton to battle it out for the stage win. Joe Dombrowski of UAE Team Emirates soloed away from Alessandro De Marchi, Rein Taaramäe and Christopher Juul-Jensen on the final climb of the day. De Marchi takes the maglia rosa from Filippo Ganna who was more concerned with aiding his teammate Egan Bernal’s challenge.
Bernal, along with Aleksandr Vlasov, Mikel Landa, Hugh Carthy and Giulio Ciccone forced a gap from the other GC favourites late in the day to take 11 seconds off Remco Evenepoel and Simon Yates.
João Almeida was the day’s big loser, dropping out the peloton and losing nearly four and a half minutes to the Bernal group. The stage played out in miserable conditions and the riders will be thankful to see one of the easiest stages of the race on the menu for tomorrow.
Joe has come a long way…
Throwback to when a shirtless guy smoking a cigarette tried to steal Dombrowski’s bike in La Vuelta. pic.twitter.com/fWBeruo9Wp
— Cycling out of context (@OutOfCycling) May 11, 2021
Do not frighten drivers and keep the noise down: Richmond Park's new code of conduct for cyclists
Listen up, there is a new code of conduct from Richmond Park Cyclists for people riding bikes in Richmond Park. Personal highlights include: ‘Keep it down’ and the one about trying not to frighten drivers. Cyclists have been asked to consider riding in single file, ‘filter gently through stationary traffic so as not to startle’ and to only use verbal signals ‘when necessary’.
The code of conduct comes at a time of growing calls to ban through traffic from the park. In February, shocking pictures emerged on social media of the aftermath of a collision involving a driver and a cyclist, which left a woman in hospital and the car wrecked a short distance away off the road.
Richmond Park Cyclists says the code of conduct is about: “Creating a safe and welcoming environment for every type of cyclist and other park visitors. Put together with the help of the Royal Parks Police, The Royal Parks, the Friends of Richmond Park and our subscribers.”
The code of conduct has not gone down well on Twitter…
Flipped script! https://t.co/MyzcmXHdnM
— 🌴Active Travel T&T 🎉🚴🚶♂️🌳🇹🇹👀 (@PLatchman) May 10, 2021
“avoid frightening drivers”….!
— Chris Higham (@rl_chris_higham) May 10, 2021
More on this tomorrow, when we’ll be looking to contact Richmond Park Cyclists to find out more about its newly-published guidelines.
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Same here. I have a helmet with built in front and rear lights and have a red light clipped onto my bag plus lights attached to my bike front and rear but still have drivers putting me in danger. My commute is about two miles and I normally have around four incidents a week where I have to brake hard or take other evasive action to avoid being hit by distracted drivers. A big percentage of these are drivers coming on to roundabouts when I am already on them.
Glasgow's South City Way sounds great, does it not? As a user from before and after I wholeheartedly welcome the construction of the segregated route, but so much of the detailed construction is poor, if not unsafe. I provide a link to a presentation I made when construction was half complete (a personal view) and the construction errors remain outstanding to this day: crossed by high speed flared road junctions, poor colour differentiation, car door zone risks and so on. And yet cyclists come because they feel safe. It's a complex subject but IMHO the feeling of safety (or lack of) is a critical component. https://drive.proton.me/urls/B67AK44G90#CFueBGjscoWr
I can only conclude that you haven't been into a city in the last few years. Food delivery riders in particular are riding overpowered "eBikes" that are basically mopeds ... powered only via the throttle without pedalling at significantly more than 15mph. Problem is they look like normal bikes/ebikes and not like mopeds so that is what people describe them as. My reading of the article is that it is those vehicles that are being talked about here.
I have the Trace and Tracer, which have essentially the same design, albeit smaller and less powerful. The controls are a little complicated but only because there are loads of options. In reality, once you've chosen your level of brightness, you'll only cycle through 1 or 2 options and it's dead simple. The lights are rock solid, bright, with good runtimes. The only thing I find annoying is charging them - if your fingers are slightly wet or greasy, getting the rubber out of the way of the charging port is a pain in the arse.
Dance and padel is all very well, but when is Strava going to let me record my gardening?
You can use it to check whether it's raining.
If it's dusk, i.e. post-sunset, then the cyclists should have lights on and thus the colour of their top is irrelevant. If you want to complain about cyclists not having lights when it's mandatory then by all means do but their top has nothing to do with it.
All of my Exposure lights with a button allow cycling through the modes with a short press. I have five of those; it would be odd if Exposure didn’t allow this functionality with the Boost 3. I also have two Exposure Burners if I remember correctly: they are rear lights for joysticks that clip on and are powered through the joystick charging port. They don’t have a button. None of my Exposure lights have failed. I looked at the Boost 3 review photos but none showed the button, so far as I could tell. I also have Moon lights. Good experience generally. One did fail, possibly because it was so thin it used to fall through the holes in my helmet onto the ground. Also, the UI and charge indicators vary for my Moon lights. Perhaps the latest ones are more consistent. My worst lights ever were from See.Sense.
Steve really doesnt like exposure products does he? Boost and Strada marked down for being too complicated. While the Zenith and Six Pack reviewed by his colleagues give them rave reviews (as most exposure products have on road.cc), the Zenith even touted as 'even more intuitive to use' with the same controls.
They are more interested in dog shit. https://www.lancasterguardian.co.uk/news/people/lancaster-police-launch-search-for-person-who-sprayed-dog-faeces-with-pink-paint-5605519
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From Hampstead Heath page
From Hampstead Heath page
Cycling isn’t allowed on some of our paths. Keep an eye out for ‘no cycling’ signs and please listen to them. You can be fined if you cycle on a ‘no cycling’ path. You can find a map of our cycle paths below.
Those talking signs are a wonder to behold.
Although I do have to admit, on first viewing of the “bite” I would have said he caught his leg on his pedal but as it isn’t the shin it could well be a bite.
Also must be something about Actors playing Christ. Look at the nuttery of Jim Caviezal nowadays.
“He was riding an off-road
“He was riding an off-road bicycle which is illegal”
I’ll stick to my road bike then !
I’m surprised he isn’t more
I’m surprised he isn’t more understanding of people taking exercise -wasn’t Jesus really into cross training?
After the whole ‘messiah’ gig
After the whole ‘messiah’ gig he went back to that and developed it into what we now call CrossFit.
True story.
It seems likely that the dog
It seems likely that the dog did bite him, he took a pic, then jesus laid hands upon him and instantly cured it.
Headline of the year?
Headline of the year?
Cyclist claims Jesus of Nazareth actor’s cockapoo bit him in London park
It’s a bit Daily Sport style
It’s a bit Daily Sport style though
Oh yes it bit him, oh no it
Oh yes it bit him, oh no it didn’t. Is Robert Powell doing panto these days?
I saw that photo on another
I saw that photo on another site and I didn’t recognise that it was Robert Powell.
(I’d first thought it was Paul Bradley, who played Nigel in Eastenders…).
I thouht it was Saul Rubinek
I thouht it was Saul Rubinek from American / Canadian TV shows.
Pretty sure it’s MORE illegal
Pretty sure it’s MORE illegal to let your dog bite someone than to ride a bike off-road.
Doesn’t seem likely that this guy would make the whole thing up.
Maybe we need The Detectives on the case?
“COME ON TACO, EVERYBODY WITH
“COME ON TACO, EVERYBODY WITH YOU!!!”
What a great bit of video. Even I was shouting at the screen.
What a fabulous finish to
What a fabulous finish to yesterday’s stage. His obvious elation and post win reaction made me very happy for him. I even called the wife into the room and rewatched the last 3k with her. Such a nice human moment to see it come true for him.
Taco’s reaction as he
Taco’s reaction as he realised he was about to win the stage is probably my favourite thing from all of Pro Cycling this year so far.
Wouldn’t it be great if good
Great testimony to what happens when there are safe cycling routes.
Wouldn’t it be great if good fortune could be given a helping hand by good policy? These things should not be down to luck!
Re: Andy Burnham video: Isn’t
Re: Andy Burnham video: Isn’t it his responsibility to set the costs the buses charge through his Combined Authority? If he wants the costs to come down, he pays more in covering the costs. Thats is what TFL and the mayors office did in London. The costs initially dropped from over £2 to £1 for card payments to force Oyster takeup intially and now they have removed direct cash on the buses, they have stayed low as TFL make up the rest.
maybe but then look at TfLs
maybe but then look at TfLs finances to highlight that approach isnt self funding and the mess you can get into when expected revenues drop.
a better example would be Nottinghams approach I think where the buses/trams just feel part of an integrated network, and is still cheap though I think fares have risen alot lately, and its funded by a concious decision on the part of the council to do that, but also on taxes collected from cars parking in the city.
Burnham certainly should have the power to lower the fares and sort out journey times imo.
But I think it always comes back to you need to work out why people are driving, because Manchester isnt a fun or easy place to drive, and work out the alternatives you can offer for that. But we seem to shove the alternatives in and then wonder why people havent taken them up.
I suspect, like with
I suspect, like with Birmingham, the M equivalent ring roads and other car specific policies over the previous decades is a big reason for the traffic in more normal times. I’m suprised though as Manchester has the largest tram system in the uk plus their local railways etc.
Nottingham is the same costs for bus tickets as Manchester and Birmingham. I know tfl is struggling, but it was more that unless the Central Government are specifically funding lower transport fares in London, that part of “levelling” up is in the local Combined Authorities and councils hands so probably shouldn’t be used in these contexts. And I can’t believe I’m probably on the Governments side of this discussion.
Awavey wrote:
Pre pandemic TFL’s debts were slashed hugely from the mess Boris left it in (Tories and their terrible economic record eh? 😉 ) but obviously, a once in a hundred years pandemic wasn’t and couldn’t realistically be planned for….certainly not in a era when government policy pretty much mandates you NEVER plan for anything further than the next election…
I was thinking more of the
I was thinking maybe its more the 200 million lost due to delays in finishing Crossrail from ad revenues and fares they didn’t sell, because ultimately all public transport operators were impacted by the pandemic so that doesn’t make TfLs issues from the pandemic exceptional.
re Kick in the teeth. Lets
re Kick in the teeth. Lets not be premolar-ture. I think we we need to drill down to the root of this story. Tooth be told, I’m sure they didn’t mean to burn any bridges.
Is that sign drilled and
Is that sign drilled and bolted onto that bike stand? Isn’t that causing damage to public property??
Which would have priority – their damaging and blocking the public bike rack, or a member of the public bending the sign out of the way so they could use said bike rack?
Cyclists need to take a stand
Cyclists should to take a stand here – the advert needs to be pulled. Instead they could stencil it directly onto the pavement below – it would show them under stand. Or, why not some plaque on the wall?
Sriracha wrote:
This is getting too serious for my palate, I think we need to brace ourselves as I believe that this could end up in the Crown Court…..
brooksby wrote:
Re. the passion in the
Re. the passion in the Intermarché-Wanty-Gobert team car…
This sums up what I love about pro cycling, yes its great to see your favourite teams and big names doing well but seeing someone win like this when it obviously means absolutely everything to them makes me well up. Not just for Taco who by all accounts was close to calling it a day last year but for the rest of the team who will remember this forever.
Wonderful euphemism in the
Wonderful euphemism in the Bristol Post today:
A car inbound on the A4/Portway ended up on its side in the adjacent inbound bus lane during this morning’s rush hour (locals will know where I mean). No other vehicles involved, no injuries.
This was described by the Post as “a single car collision“.
It was the same description
It was the same description when HP posted that picture of a police car in a ditch during a ‘training exercise’.
I guess my point was, “What
I guess my point was, “What did it collide with?” The celestial aether?
Fate.
Fate.
brooksby wrote:
The road.
Physics.
Physics.
It fell over in sympathy with
It fell over in sympathy with the one in Haverhill https://www.eadt.co.uk/news/traffic/car-flips-in-crash-outside-haverhill-tesco-7958622
brooksby wrote:
Inevitability
Historical determinism.
Historical determinism.
Richmond Park Cyclists are
Richmond Park Cyclists are made up from people from lots of local cycling clubs apparently so I suspect they have seen behaviour that even they have been embarassed about so have done the conduct. Yes, the “startling” motorists does give the headlines, but remember we are invisible to them until we are not so I can get what they are stating to some extent. Although I do wish they would be indicating they are doing what they can to reduce the cars in the park.
From their About us Page
ContributorsPaul Harknett – Former Chair, London Dynamo
James Heath – Trustee, London Cycling Campaign
Duncan Adamson – Slipstreamers’ Coach
Peter Cunliffe – South Western Road Club
Derek Griffiths – Kingston Wheelers
Jed Harrison – Sportive Secretary, London Dynamo
Tim Lennon – Richmond Cycling Campaign
Justin Levene – Weir Archer Academy and Get Kids Going
Marina Lim – Commuter
Martin O’Sullivan – Deputy Head of Turing House School
Martin Winter – Twickenham CC
Any driver frightened by a
Any driver frightened by a cyclist should not be driving.
Hours of videos of drivers intimidating and behaving recklessly around cyclists in the park
hirsute wrote:
Frightened when cyclists “appear out of nowhere”
Frightened that they “might run the cyclist over”
Frightened that cyclists shout out when their lives are put at risk
Frightened that they don’t know whether to o/take safely or wait, so go for squeezing past at speed whilst staring glazedly ahead…..
AlsoSomniloquism wrote:
The headline was a little misleading – [i]Richmond Park’s new code of conduct for cyclists[/i] suggests this is something written by Richmond Park authorities, for cyclists. It isn’t.
It’s a long time since I cycled in Richmond Park, but I can well imaging some of the aggressive tossers who have no heed for others – putting them on a bicycle changes little about their attitude and the behaviour it fosters.
Was there any reason why
Was there any reason why Quest might have been showing the highlights of the opening TT stage of the Giro this evening rather than highlights of today’s actual stage?
Think it’s this: “Well, well,
Think it’s this: “Well, well, well…we would love to tell you what is happening on stage four but unfortunately the grim Emilia-Romagna weather is giving the broadcasters some issues.”
Just re-showing the TT was a bit rubbish though. I wondered if I’d blundered into Quest +72 by mistake.
well this is weird. hope it’s
well this is weird. hope it’s fixed soon.
Richmond Park Cyclists. The
Richmond Park Cyclists. The language is very similar to other forms of prejudice and hate, where the hater declares the hated must change their behaviour or appearance in order to reduce the reasons for being hated. Cyclists must be seen but not heard. RPC. Twats.
Except, surely this code of
Except, surely this code of conduct was written by the hated, not by the haters? Unless you are making a case for the great and good cyclists who make up the Richmond Park Cyclists group having been coopted by motorists?
I absolutely understand where
I absolutely understand where they’re coming from. Every week I read about drunken, drugged-up cyclists with no insurance killing car drivers, knocking out of their cars and leaving them for dead or worse at the side of the road, and generally behaving like hooligans. Hooligans! If I was a car driver, I’d be pooping my pants at the mere thought of picking up my car keys.
Not to mention all the terrorist attacks carried out using bicycles. I mean, have you ever seen a car, van or lorry used in one of these heinous acts? This must be stopped! Stopped I tell you!
I was replying to Muddy Ford
I was replying to Muddy Ford’s view that the code was similar to other instances of the hater telling the hated how to stop being an object of hate, whereas in fact the code is written by the hated in this case. So, what’s your point?
Argos74 wrote:
Not common – but it has happened…
Made a mess of Bognor Regis town centre in 1994.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bicycle_bomb
HoarseMann wrote:
Not to mention the time the IRA planted a device in a bicycle in Brighton. As I recall, bicycles fitted with devices were also used by the Vietcong in the Vietnam war.
Yep, hence the ‘Twats’
Yep, hence the ‘Twats’ summary
Muddy Ford wrote:
You don’t think, given that they are cyclists from a widespread membership of cycle clubs in the area, that maybe they have a point? You can’t just dismiss them all as twats.
Sriracha wrote:
Yep, hence the ‘Twats’ summary
— SrirachaYou don’t think, given that they are cyclists from a widespread membership of cycle clubs in the area, that maybe they have a point? You can’t just dismiss them all as twats.— Muddy Ford
I think people who are likely to take note of a code of conduct are broadly already complying with it. This seems to be superfluous, as the worthwhile bits will be in the HWC anyway.
Seems it’s a well-meaning attempt to show that we “play our part”. In reality, it’ll be another set of arbitrary rules to beat people on bikes over the head with, and lends legitimacy to shrill “complaints” about lycra louts that should actually be dismissed.
That’s how I feel about it.
That’s how I feel about it. No point trying to pander to people who think cyclists should not be on the roads, should cede way at any point, who don’t pay their road tax and who wear lycra (like no one else does of course).
Come up with a set of rights and reasons as to why cyclists can use roads and why they take a certain road position at different points.
I’d not label them in those
I’d not label them in those terms, but I feel its misguided effort at best, I’m not sure what it expects to achieve, or what the authors hope it will achieve. Will random person driving through Richmond Park now feel it’s ok for cyclists to be there as some other local cyclists have come up with a code of conduct? Will local motorists be expected to come up with their own code of conduct, dont drive like idiots,its not a race track, obey road signs kind of thing ?
I read an article recently
I read an article recently about how Black Americans teach their kids to seem friendly and inoffensive so as not to draw unwanted attention from police, shop-workers, etc…
brooksby wrote:
I don’t want to get into a debate about racism, but when it comes to cyclists I’m quite sure they should not have to be taught to give the appearance of being friendly and inoffensive.
Sriracha wrote:
I read an article recently about how Black Americans teach their kids to seem friendly and inoffensive so as not to draw unwanted attention from police, shop-workers, etc…
— SrirachaI don’t want to get into a debate about racism, but when it comes to cyclists I’m quite sure they should not have to be taught to give the appearance of being friendly and inoffensive.— brooksby
Well, yeah, but we don’t want to scare the motorists, do we?
Does that mean cyclists
Does that mean cyclists should not wear lycra then to avoid being called a lout?
hirsute wrote:
No no, leave the lycra on, please…..
brooksby wrote:
Yeah, it’s all a bit “Sit down and shut up Rosa. You’ll only make the white folks hate us more.”
That’s that angle I was
That’s that angle I was coming from too. This ‘be seen but not heard’ is all about reducing hatred of cyclists and nothing to do with improving cyclists safety in Richmond Park. “Don’t make a spectacle of yourself, you’ll upset the drivers” Whereas just on this website alone we have nearly 600 videos of drivers having a complete disregard for cyclists safety, with many of them intentional because they deem us to be pests or below them. This ‘be quiet’ pampers to that. Cyclists don’t denegrate drivers, we are drivers too. What we want is better standards of driving, so that we can take our nervous and less experienced friends and family out for a cycle ride without panicking that some moron is going to wipe them out. Telling us to be quiet when everyday a cyclist is killed by a dangerous and ignorant driver just gets my goat, hence why I think the RPC are twats for coming up with this stupid conduct. Would be better if they pushed for driving standards through the Park to be rigorously enforced.
Completely agree! It
Completely agree! It reminded me of the people that start a sentence “I’m not a racist but…”
“Richmond Park Cyclists says
“Richmond Park Cyclists says the code of conduct is about: “Creating a safe and welcoming environment for every type of cyclist……”
“welcoming”?
Look, I know I’m an old stick in the mud, but could we please use word definitions in common use as understood by native English speakers, not invent new meanings, it just gets confusing.
I did not realise you could
I did not realise you could ride bikes in Hampstead Heath. As a dog owner we always have to be careful our dogs don’t get in the face of those who don’t appreciate. Our dog is tiny but still there are many who dislike dogs.
Richmond park wise I understand as a pedestrian and driver and casual cyclist why they are adding these rules. Yes some drivers are idiots but not an excuse to use them as a reason not to improve.
Beating arbitrary challenges with a gang shouting code words at each other in recreational parks Is fun. I did it when I was a kid with my mates.
But there is no entitlement for grown adults to act like children in parks. At least when sharing the roads. Be it if you’re on a 50quid bike or 5k.
Same as there is no extra king/queen of the road entitlement for car drivers to be idiots, just because their vehicle is bigger.
Hopefully we will get on together in my dream world where we are all humans using different forms of transport depending on the required need! ☺️
Ihatecheese wrote:
*rubs eyes in disbelief* *several times* A dog owner claiming have any awareness that not everyone is as besotted with Poochie as they are. Go on…