A study has shown that people tend to view driving-related dangers differently to if they were caused by something other than cars.
The latest research by Dr Ian Walker, an environmental psychology professor at Swansea University, found that British people are more accepting of issues and dangers caused by motor vehicles that they otherwise would not be accepting of elsewhere.
We have a new study out!
The short version is this: “Car Brain” – the cultural blind spot that makes people apply double standards when they think about driving – is real, measurable and pervasive.
Read on for more details… 1/14 @SwanseaUni @UWEBristol @EdNapierTRI pic.twitter.com/oZKi8cZhXi
— Ian Walker (@ianwalker) January 17, 2023
Describing the attitude as “motonomativity”, in the paper ‘Motonomativity: How Social Norms Hide a Major Public Health Hazard’, Walker along with co-authors Alan Tapp and Adrian Davis suggest that the “motonormative thought style is as endemic amongst government and the medical profession as in the general population”, with potential implications for policy.
By randomly assigning a pool of 2,157 people (drivers and non-drivers) one of two sets of questions (near identical, just with a couple of words edited to make relevant to a driving or non-driving-related risk) the rearchers were able to determine “unconscious biases due to cultural assumptions about the role of private cars”.
For example, while 75 per cent of people agreed that ‘people shouldn’t smoke in highly populated areas where other people have to breathe in the cigarette fumes’, only 17 per cent agreed with the same statement changed to ‘people shouldn’t drive in highly populated areas where other people have to breathe in the car fumes’.
Likewise, 37 per cent believed the police needed to take action if someone left their belongings in the street leading to them being stolen, but 87 per cent agreed with the word ‘belongings’ replaced by ‘car’.
While 61 per cent of people agreed that risk is a ‘natural part of driving’, just 31 per cent agreed that risk is a ‘natural part of work’.
Here’s the full set of answers. As you can see, responses could change dramatically when driving was mentioned. All except Question 2 were hugely statistically different.
This doesn’t make sense! The principle is the same in both forms of each question; only context changes 6/14 pic.twitter.com/baivf0tR2o
— Ian Walker (@ianwalker) January 17, 2023
“It is nonsensical to say that making people breathe toxic air is a problem when it comes from a cigarette, but making people breathe toxic air is fine when it comes from a car,” Dr Walker said.
“The underlying principle is the same, but people in our study were not using the same standards when they judged the two things.
“It’s long been suspected that people can slip unconsciously into using different standards when they think about driving, leading them to commit a fallacy known as ‘special pleading’. Our study was intended to reveal this phenomenon and show just how substantial these effects can be.”
Co-author Dr Davis also explained that it was not just a problem seen in the driving population of the research.
“When we pulled out just the people in our survey who didn’t drive, we saw that even these people were using different standards when the questions asked about driving,” he said.
We end with a call for policymakers to recognise their unconscious and institutional biases and to implement mechanisms to overcome them in planning and health decisions.
You can read the full paper here for free https://t.co/fl6CmfS94V
Thanks for reading! 14/14
— Ian Walker (@ianwalker) January 17, 2023
“Their answers tended to echo what the drivers were saying, meaning it’s not even simple self-interest at work. It’s got to be something deeper, rooted in our culture.”
And commenting on the same bias slipping into the minds of policy makers at government level and within the medical profession, co-author Tapp explained one example of an implication for policy.
“If you asked a politician whether a new hospital should be inaccessible to one-fifth of the population, obviously they’d say ‘no’,” he suggested.
“Whereas if you asked that same politician whether a hospital should be built on the edge of town, it’s likely that many wouldn’t see the problem, if they have a form of this mindset we’re looking at. But in practice, having the hospital outside town is not that different from making it inaccessible when a fifth of households don’t have a car.”
Professor Walker added: “Every decision maker needs to get used to asking themselves, ‘What’s the underlying principle we’re considering here, and would I still be happy with it if we were talking about something other than road transport?”

43 thoughts on “Britons have in-built acceptance of driving’s dangers, study suggests”
You’ve got to hand it to the
You’ve got to hand it to the early motoring pioneers and the car marketing men: they have done a grand job of conditioning most people to normalise and accept the dangerous mayhem, inconvenience, that cars inflict on all of us from the moment we leave our front doors.
Sad but true…
Sad but true…
Road.cc has moved on from
Road.cc has moved on from posting articles that tangentially feature cycling, and is now posting articles that make literally no mention of cycling in them. At no point in the article do any of the words cycling, bicycle, bike, etc., appear. Utter shite
And yet it’s an article about
And yet it’s an article about – er- an article by Dr Ian Walker, who does a lot of stuff about active travel. I’d count it as relevant. Not about sports cycling, if that’s what worries you 😉 but definitely relevant to the “travel environment”.
A few years ago I went for a
A few years ago I went for a haircut. The barber did a reasonable job, quite nice I thought, but when he finished he said, “would you like your eyebrows trimming sir?” Well I’ve got hardly any eyebrows to speak of – I’m no Noel Galllagher by any means. It doesn’t bother me that much, it’s not held me back in life at all. I’m sure he was making fun of me but I just made my excuses and left. I wish I’d told him where he could shove his eyebrow trimmers now. I didn’t leave a tip though. And I didn’t go back.
Perhaps the the “cultural
Perhaps the “cultural blind spot that makes people apply double standards when they think about driving” (source: Ian Walker) doesn’t hold any interest for you personally. But I can assure you that it is hugely relevant to the vast majority of road.cc’s regular readers and commenters.
Peter Walker’s Guardian article, mentioned elsewhere on this site, begins with the words:
“British people appear to have an in-built acceptance of risks and harms from motor vehicles that they would not accept in other parts of life”
This is a very big deal.
As far as I know nobody has said that the content on road.cc was curated solely for your tastes and preferences.
and yet does the Guardian
and yet does the Guardian print stories on every car crash every day that kills people, or only the ones that involve Tesla’s ?
Awavey wrote:
Tesla stories are novel (and get more clicks), particularly the so-called self-driving cars. And everybody loves to read about the huge promises – and inevitable failings – of new technology.
Local papers handle the day-to-death death and injury toll, just as Premiership footballers get torn apart in the nationals while Shrewsbury Town players would normally only get namechecked in the Shropshire Slur.
At least the Guardian’s has the Bike Blog, is generally supportive of cycling and active travel. The Times did one brief pro-cycling splurge after Mary Bowers’ horrible injuries with their Cities Fit For Cycling campaign (notably Kaya Burgess) but went back to its pro-car gedouttamyway format soon afterwards. The Independent’s “Save our cyclists” campaign (2011?) fizzled out after a couple of headlines. The species that get paid to write for the Mail and the Scum detest cyclists and consider them lower than vermin.
the bike blog is hidden away
the bike blog is hidden away in the environment section, its not about cycling per se, the other newspapers are doing nothing more than getting more clicks like the Tesla stories.
and local papers, though most seem owned by media conglomerates and written by AI thesedays, actually do miss a surprisingly large number of stories about crashes, injuries, deaths kind of only make it in if the police tell the paper about it.
I just think its an interesting point a Tesla injuring/killing someone is considered more newsworthy than any other type of vehicle that daily injures & kills far more people, and yet we’re complaining that Britons have normalised the dangers of driving, even though weve clearly normalised the reporting of the impact of something where 5 people die every day, because its not considered newsworthy or click baity enough.
I’ll click on a Tesla story.
I’ll click on a Tesla story.
1) I genuinely think cyclists will be safer with AI driving the car rather than meat (eventually)
2) I have a gruesome fascination with the bizarre cult round Tesla/Musk. Weirdos.
1) We’re likely to have
1) We’re likely to have teleportation before we have autonomous cars.
2) You realise that makes you one of those wierdos don’t you?
1) I’d like you to be wrong
1) I’d like you to be wrong but I wouldn’t argue it
2) everyone has to have a hobby
Plenty of sports cycling
Plenty of sports cycling sites out there if that’s all you want. Road.cc covers a wide spectrum of cycling. A lot of the contributors on the forum will be utility cyclists and issues here will concern them. I’ve found there to be a good range of subjects covered.
We need more like this really
We need more like this really
Dan – you know we have 86
Dan – you know we have 86 comments and counting on the forum about this one? 😉 😀
brooksby wrote:
He’s trying to nick your page clicks
Dr Walker should do a study
Dr Walker should do a study of Lancashire Constabulary traffic officers, because they definitely think the same way- ‘oh!- everybody does that’- RLJs, no MOT, no VED etc. The almost complete absence of traffic policing up here must have led to many disasters which they have then covered up. This is one of a series of stills from an immaculate video of the female driver of Porsche Cayenne KD10 WER speaking into and staring at a mobile phone while driving on the A6 at 40mph, today. I know the exact time when she passed me was 12:36:59 GPS time, which is within 1 second of my phone network time. Are LC going to do anything about this? Are they hell!
Cycling Mikey has it easy with the Met- they even spare the time they could be using to forgive colleague rapists and murderers to prosecute ‘phone drivers’ who are stationary in a queue! The video will be on UpRide when they get round to approving it- at the junction of the A6 and B6430 south of Catterall
Just another study aimed at
Just another study aimed at putting more damn cyclists on the road to get in my way while I’m rushing to the bike park in my new Grenadier!
These academics have put into
These academics have put into words what many of us can see and experience every day. Sometimes, as I cycle past queues and queues of hardly moving vehicles, I think ‘why do you do this’? This is abnormal not normal. To accept being so passive, to not challenge the fact that you are hardly moving. And it’s not doing you any good and it’s costing you money.
BIRMINGHAMisaDUMP wrote:
It’s worse than that, they’re not doing others any good either and it’s costing us all money to subsidise them and clean up after them.
Initially I was thinking
Initially I was thinking great study backs up what I suspected, then looked at the question sets and realised I was falling for confirmation bias.
Whilst I suspect the proposal is valid that people do percieve driving dangers differently – not sure this study is that reliable in terms of providing evidence, the question sets may on the face of it appear similar, but surely even a layperson like me can see that the majority of questions are not really equivalent, many take the form of compare activity. First question compares driving with smoking – many see driving as an essential (neccessary evil?) as long distance travel, goods delivery etc is seen to rely on driving (add in the lack of good public transport and safe cycling infrastructure!) whilst smoking is not an essential activity and purely a personal choice.
Comes across as junk pseudoscience in my opinion, still in todays fake news society why bother with the hard work of deriving a valid set of questions.
Can you clarify what the
Can you clarify what the point of your comment is please, because I don’t understand it. Genuine question :).
You say the study is not reliable, but go on to say that driving is essential, even using the term ‘necessary evil’ and compare it to smoking as ‘not essential’.
Your opinions seem to agree with the point of the study – that driving is seen as a necessary activity and as a result gets a free pass from the majority because it is considered a ‘necessary evil’.
You’ve said it’s junk pseudoscience, but also seem to agree with its findings.
its basically what I was
its basically what I was trying to say yesterday, though I couldnt remember the confirmation bias thingy 🙂
its simple, do people in Britain normalise the dangers of driving, as a statement I think we or at least the majority agree they do
but does this study prove that, No.
Why ? because the study set out only to prove the statement was true and looks to have picked a set of questions that will guarantee you can draw a conclusion that people normalise the dangers of driving through it
it didnt set out to test through a set of random situations posed in a survey of questions, what peoples attitudes to driving were, and that they have normalised the dangers of driving.
and I think thats a very distinct & separate thing.
makadu wrote:
I agree that the questions could be better and it’d be good to see more than just two options for each question (people could be provided with different sets of the questions to see how much variance there is in non-car topics). However, when you say “many see driving as an essential…”, you’re confirming the point of the study which is that people’s views on motoring are skewed.
Hmm no – I suspect (opinion
Hmm no – I suspect (opinion not backed up by scientific evidence) that we do have a societal bias towards motoring.
My point is that I believe this study sits in the opinion category and not the scientific evidence category.
I don’t believe the questions from the first set (relating to driving) always equate to the questions in the second set, driving is a method of travel – travel can often be an essential activity, whereas drinking and smoking (two of the questions) are never essential activities, that in itself will lead to a different response.
Another question about theft of car vs belongings – well cars are big, heavy and come with security features, belongings could just mean you left a bag outside your house and is an easy to take item – so again differences in response are to be expected.
Questions B seems to be the only one where there is a level of equivalence and the response demonstrate no bias! – but this can probably be down to respondents identifying chef and delivery driver as “others” and therefore not allowing any relaxation in standards.
Question C comes close to equivalence – but workplace is probably identified as an outside responsibility (company/employer) whereas any who drive and respond will see this as their own area of responsibility and thus accept a higher level of self imposed risk vs an externally imposed risk.
So even though I think as a society we need to tackle car dependency and reduce usage whilst promoting active and public transport I strongly believe we need valid supporting evidence to back up our arguments as poorly worded questions like these can easily be picked apart by the pro-motoring lobby and therefore weaken rather than strengthen the position
makadu wrote:
Question B does demonstrate some bias, but I’d like a larger sample set to determine how reliable it is.
I agree about the car vs belongings question being a poor choice as a car is usually more expensive than other belongings. I mentioned on the forum thread that it would be better to have a question about partially blocking pavements with parked cars vs parked bikes.
I think there’s ways that the study could be improved, but it is at least scientific in that people can easily replicate it. Better questions and a larger sample size could put it on a more sound basis, but I personally have no doubt that society is car obsessed as I see it every day.
hawkinspeter wrote:
Hmm they may have applied a scientific process in selecting random responders, applying statistical analysis to the results etc., and ask the same questions you may get similar results – but if the questions are flaky!!
Bit like the proverbial sausage machine – you tip ingredients in the hopper – turn the handle and it minces and then squeezes the result out in a tubular skin. Feed in horseshit and turn the handle – you will get something that looks just like a sausage – but I am not about to eat it!!!
Or more succinctly garbage in garbage out
makadu wrote:
This question may actually show up the problem. Many drivers are working! Not just delivery drivers and lorry drivers but anybody that is going about their business (eg reps). If a rep has an accident in his car is it dealt with in the same way as if a forklift driver does? I don’t think so… but may depend on the company. I would even suggest that this may be because the company has a duty of care to everybody on their site whereas they don’t feel that duty of care to random pedestrians and cyclists.
Science fiction of the past
Science fiction of the past century-and-a-half has been full of evil geniuses or alien overlords inventing mind-control rays to turn the human race into obedient slaves or mindless beasts. Meanwhile, the motorcar has quietly got on with doing something approaching that in reality.
It has trained us to be selfish. It has isolated us from our neighbours and our communities. It has conditioned us to care less about loss of human life if the cause of death comes with cup holders and leather seats. It has programmed us to accept the destruction of the natural world by industry because in return we get a cool toy to play with that goes vroom-vroom, and a status symbol to boost our egos. It gives us a sense of control, with all the speed and power of an internal combustion engine at our command, yet because so many have bought into the same dream, the reality is traffic jams and hunting for parking spaces. Along with mortgages, car payments trap people into jobs they hate, in turn making them even more likely to lash out at some perceived slight on their commute home, say by a cyclist who appears freer than them.
I’m not saying that Karl Benz was an evil genius bent of turning the human race into selfish assholes too addicted to convenience to see that they’re destroying their own planet and killing people. He couldn’t know the ultimate effect of his cool new toy that went vroom-vroom. What I am saying is that if such a fictional evil genius existed in real life, they couldn’t have invented anything more effective at achieving their goal than the motorcar (although the invention of social media is new candidate that may be just as bad.)
Hear hear. If an evil genius
Hear hear. If an evil genius wanted to inflict as much harm as possible to the human race as a whole, I don’t think anyone could come up with something as harmful as the motorcar.
Even the atom bomb doesn’t come close.
ShutTheFrontDawes wrote:
I’d say that Capitalism in general has produced the most harm. It ensures that the most selfish, psychopathic people get to have the most power and influence whilst also rewarding people for exploiting resources as quick as they possibly can.
hawkinspeter wrote:
I’d say that Capitalism in general has produced the most harm. It ensures that the most selfish, psychopathic people get to have the most power and influence whilst also rewarding people for exploiting resources as quick as they possibly can.— ShutTheFrontDawes
But but whatabout the commies?! If you say anything against capitalism you’re directly supporting Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot. /s
[/quote] But but whatabout the commies?! If you say anything against capitalism you’re directly supporting Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot. /s[/quote]
I like to explain that I’m not against capitalism just consumer capitalism. That confuses them.
The motorcar has turbocharged
The motorcar has turbocharged capitalism, and vice versa. Both have become bloated, gross, and obscene distortions of their original forms, as a result.
Whether nuclear weapons or the internal combustion engine take the top spot for worse human invention is debatable. Arguably, nuclear weapons ended WW2 and have prevented another war on the same scale happening since. But there are at least a couple of maniacs who could invalidate that argument tomorrow, with a press of a button.
It is also arguable that WW2 wouldn’t have been quite the conflagration that it was without the internal combustion engine. It is, after all, very hard to blitzkrieg with trains and bicycles. Plus one of the sweeteners the Nazis used to get the support of the German people was sleek new “wagens” for all the “volks” (although, like all populists, they failed to deliver.)
ShutTheFrontDawes wrote:
Somebody will be along shortly to explain how nuclear energy has provided unmatchable benefits for humanity that have made nuclear waste, leaks and disasters, along with the ever-present threat of the annihilation of the human race, a price well worth paying.
Rendel Harris wrote:
Somebody will be along shortly to explain how nuclear energy has provided unmatchable benefits for humanity that have made nuclear waste, leaks and disasters, along with the ever-present threat of the annihilation of the human race, a price well worth paying.— ShutTheFrontDawes
If only the harm from motoring were as well managed as the harm from nuclear energy!
To make it a fair comparison, we’d need nuclear disasters on the scale of Chernobyl (which is estimated to have resulted in 4,000 deaths) 10 times per year. And that’s just for US road deaths (42,915 in 2021 ; US Department of Transport).
But you’re right, perhaps they will pick nuclear as their next false-equivalence.
(Edited for error)
Yet another example of a
Yet another example of a seemingly driverless vehicle highlighted by Ned Boulting this morning, apparently before being aware of the research:
https://twitter.com/nedboulting/status/1615611407852003328
The ‘vehicle’ was a van being driven in Bristol with no tyres.
Yes, you read that correctly, NO TYRES. In fact, it looks like there were no wheels!
It’s interesting to consider
It’s interesting to consider why motor transport has gained it’s position as a necessary evil.
If you unwound our dependence on transport, what else would you have to unwind? My guess is the fundamental is population. That is another unthinkable thing, that humanity should strive to reduce human population, after all is the idea of a planet contentedly populated by say, 500,000,000 people rather than 8 billion impossible to conceive (oops!) of? Is every sperm sacred? What factors drive our cultures to shy against population reduction?
That’s the elephant in the
That’s the elephant in the room. I am in my forties, the global population when I was born was approaching 5bn, today we have pushed past 8bn. That’s a huge increase in a short time of human history that spans what, 200k years?
People live differently in the modern world. Few jobs are local, company changes and career progression can end up taking you futher afield. They have for me, and moving closer isn’t ideal for a number of reasons. I mix train and cycling but that isn’t possible for all people or situations.
Cars, traffic and much more are just a symptom of the above points. As much as people understandably here love to tout the “bike is best” matra, but it really isn’t. It is a perfectly viable option and is arguably best for some people, and/or some journeys but by no means “THE BEST”. Ultimately the car will stay, it will shift towards electric as will much else like household heating and power generation itself will become greener with renewables and nuclear, but with growing population what really is best is a functional, affordable and reliable public transport system preferably that accomodates cycling so the public can use cycling to complete their journeys rather than drive and park at the train station etc.
Which reminds me I must fill out that southeastern feedback form on their unmittigated disaster of a new timetable.
I suppose this part of
I suppose this part of cutting red tape * but what other industries would you reduce testing ?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-64318141
AA president Edmund King said the MoT “plays a vital role in ensuring that vehicles on our roads are safe and well maintained”.
“With one in 10 cars failing their first MoT, we strongly discourage the government from extending a car’s first MOT to the fourth anniversary due to road safety concerns,” he added.
* vital standards to most people
I’m amazed it’s only 1 in 10
I’m amazed it’s only 1 in 10 tbh. I would have expected that more vehicles would fail on tyres, brakes and other consumable-type areas.
I’d hope that fleet vehicles
I’d hope that fleet vehicles would be maintained, then 90% (I believe) of new cars are via some leasing scheme, so that would either have servicing built in or require users to maintain it on pain of financial penalty at the end of the agreement. So 1 in 10 seems ok to me.
Organisations are planning
Organisations are planning for various impacts of the cost of living crisis… missed mortgage/credit payments, cold related rise in health issues, education impacted by hunger etc.
One area that will also be on dashboards as a potential risk is an increase in traffic incidents as people put off or cancel completely necessary vehicle maintenance. It won’t be seen as a priority.