Live blog: Brompton boss says enmity between motorists and cyclists is down to Mamils; Kristoff’s bike fails to survive sprint (+more vid of sprint crash), Wiggo ‘bike drop’, Hunt newsletter fail + save, Holly Willoughby on overtaking cyclists + more
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Alexander Kristoff’s bike fails to survive sprint
This is what happened to Alexander Kristoff’s bike in the UAE tour yesterday.
Alexander Kristoff snapped his chainstay in half during the sprint up Hatta Dam today #UAETour pic.twitter.com/ENaXiCqYHA
— Frederick Dreier (@freddreier) February 27, 2019
Looks like the rear mech somehow took out the seat stay.
Kristoff explained:
You can see him come to a complete stop at about 2m30s (he’s already way in the background).
Sir Dave Brailsford has completely lost control of his hands
Sir Dave’s hand gestures have long fascinated us and Team Sky’s latest Colombia YouTube documentary thing provides a fine example why.
‘Success’ is represented by some sort of ham-fisted pottery spinning gesture, while he expresses ‘winning the race’ with an up-and-down move that we can only assume relates to different positions on a leaderboard.
He’s even got one for ‘can we use the experience of these guys to feed and fast track these guys?’
Holly Willoughby turns up the radio when her husband is judging her for not overtaking cyclists
“I do not like overtaking cyclists at all,” said Willoughby. “As soon as there’s a cyclists in front of me I’m like, oh my god just please turn left, please just get off the road, because I can’t do it. I hate it.”
Referring to her husband, she continued: “And Dan, now, looks at me… All he has to do is do that, and I’m like, ‘Stop it! Because I know you’re going to make a big deal of the fact I’m going to sit behind this cyclist until they move.’”
She said that to distract herself from his critical looks, she turns up the radio.
Brazen bike thief video
Now that’s just a brazen attempt to steal a very expensive Yeti mountain bike from a bike shop
Fizik Tempo Overcurve R5 shoes launched
Italian company Fizik has launched the new Tempo Overcurve R5 cycling shoe, a new model in a range intended to offer a timeless look, which uses the micro adjustment of a single Boa IP1 dial and a staggered collar wrapping around the ankle to provide a fast and secure closure.
The new shoes are available now and cost £140 and come in sizes 36 to 48, with half sizes between 37 to 47. More at www.fizik.com
“We are pleased to bring the new Tempo Overcurve R5 shoes to market,” says Luca Mathia Bertoncello, fizik’s Brand Director. “Showcasing the versatile new Tempo shoe construction and R5 outsole provides an ideal platform on which to deliver the all-new Overcurve system.
A study in ergonomic design, its form follows the natural shape created by the lateral and medial malleoli protrusions on either side of the ankle – the asymmetric shape lends itself to an overlapping curve along and across the rider’s foot. It means a technically superior fit option to rival many others available.”
Pinarello's Grevil gravel bike arrives in UK bike shops
You’ve read all about Pinarello’s bold new gravel bike named the Grevil, well now you can see it at your local bike shop as it’s starting to arrive in stock about now. You can also see our video where we ask if it’s hot or not.
Wiggo back racing. Sort of
Sir Bradley Wiggins has been enjoying a spot of competitive cycling in Belgium this week.
What cycle clothing for a dystopian future?
Cycle clothing brand Morvélo don’t seem very optimistic about upcoming times
“Legend has it that beyond the 500 metre high city wall, there is a green paradise. Living in the perpetual darkness and fighting for a living on the street, The Underworld Champions fight to escape a dystopian future plagued by the Hydroformers; an elite group hell bent on industrialisation and containing the last inhabitants of earth. Armed with whatever they can find, the race is on to find a way out of the urban maze and into the myth. Do you dare join them?”
Or it could just be a collaboration with artist Death Spray Custom.
Investigation into Mike Hall’s “avoidable” death was compromised by loss of evidence
Coroner also concluded that the driver involved in the collision did not commit an offence. She said this conclusion was in part due to the high standard of negligence required by law.
Velon On-Bike Footage of Nasty UAE Tour Crash
A touch of wheels at the front of the peloton saw lots of riders going down heavily 8km from the finish of yesterday’s UAE Tour Stage 5.
The footage shows quite a few broken bikes with one Astana rider even rolling a tubular tyre off the rim.
There were no casualties of this particular crash, but young Belgian sensation Remco Evenepole seems to have crashed into a stationary motorbike earlier in the stage. The crash forced him to abandon the race but a trip to hospital showed no broken bones.
Brooks launches C17 Cambium Organic Light saddle
Brooks England has announced the launch of the C17 Cambium Organic Light saddle. The new model uses a combination of materials including organic cotton and vulcanised natural rubber. The nose and backplate are made from liquid wood, a 100% biodegradable biopolymer formed from waste products.
The C17 Cambium Organic Light is available in a variety of colours including natural, green, brick and rust and retails, and retails at £120.
The C17 Organic Light will be available online at www.brooksengland.com and at the B1866 flagship in Seven Dials, London from 4th March 2019.
Hunt apologises for “ALEX DOWSETT’S GF RIDES HUNT” newsletter headline
Here’s Chanel’s response to that headline.
And here’s Hunt’s apology.
Broadly speaking, the apology seems to have been well received.
We all make mistakes… well done @HuntBikeWheels for taking ownership of yours. I’m sure the team have learnt from their mistakes and can now just go back to being awesome pic.twitter.com/Vp8JiNlYLo
— Laura Scott (@Laura_Scott) February 27, 2019
The Classics are coming!
The Spring Classics are coming, and the pros have been out scoping out key sections of cobbles ahead of Omloop Het Nieuwsblad.
Cobbles, cobbles, cobbles.. #OHN19 pic.twitter.com/AdA2GnJeyy
— Deceuninck-QuickStep (@deceuninck_qst) February 28, 2019
Uninsured teen driver would have known cyclist was under car when he did three-point turn
Former London cycling commissioner accuses mayor of building "fake cycle network"
Andrew Gilligan doesn’t think much of London’s Quietways.
Brompton boss says enmity between motorists and cyclists is down to Mamils
Will Butler-Adams, the head of Brompton Bicycles, says that ill feeling between motorists and cyclists is because “cycling as a mode of transport pretty much died”.
The Telegraph, who published an interview with him this weekend, reports that he was “mid-rant” with “eyes ablaze” when he said this.
“The people who brought cycling back to life, were the people at the weekend training for their triathlon,” he said. “They whizz along at 100mph like some hardcore guy, get to work and change out of that funny stuff.”
This year’s Brompton World Championship Final will be held on August 3 at that famously Mamil-free event, RideLondon.
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@Smoggysteve there is a lot of research that shows that if cycling infrastructure is improved, perceived (and actual) safety increases, and this leads to proportionally more women cycling. This has been shown in NYC and London (mini Holland programmes).
Stupid! An incredible amount of space wasted on jousting! .... even stupider >>> my bothering to comment!
@danhopgood 100% bang on there.
@mitsky I think they already know they shouldn't be on them but they just don't care.
@Eton Rifle Quite correct: as I said above, the number of under 25s injured in knife incidents has declined by 25% since Khan took over and the overall number of hospital admissions for knife incidents has fallen by 50%. In 2019 the Offensive Weapons Act tightened the law on knives considerably, most notably extending the classification of a criminal threat using a knife to include threats made on private premises, which previously had been recorded as common assault or affray, and criminalising the possession of certain knives, such as flick knives, even inside your own home, which had previously been legal, so now if the police raid a private home and find flick knives or similar weapons that is recorded as a knife crime where previously no crime existed. Obviously recorded knife crime was bound to go up with these new restrictions.
@Rendel Harris The point is a ratio means nothing on its own. Without the figures of how many men or women ride its a nonsense, IF you double the amount of people cycling but the ratio dropped from 1 in 4 to 1 in 5 but more women rode that is an improvement. that ratio is making it look something that its not.
@AidanR Im sorry you couldnt understand it, that doesnt mean it didnt make sense. Let me put it another way for you, If you create better infrastructure that ALL people use and cycle based journeys increase 100% but women still only represent 1/4 of all rides is that not better than say fewer men riding using cycle lanes and instead deciding to use a road and therefore the ratio of women using cycle lanes increases to 1/3 or even 1/2 of all journeys using cycle lanes? Congratulations your statistic of a ratio of more female to male riders has increased but not cycle as a whole. a 100% increase would still see double the amount of female cycling journeys. That has to be the goal! Even if the ratio dropped thats still a vast improvment The point is, culturally in the Netherlands and most of NW Europe is cycling has been a consistently encouraged mode of transport. That is not true of the UK. So to try and encourage more people to cycle should be the goal, not just women. Its ridiculous to try and improve one stat without the other.
@Smoggysteve That level of aggression and rudeness is hardly justified by my response, now is it? It's not a "stupid comparison" or being "daft"; as Aidan points out below, in the 1970s the Dutch were just as in thrall to the motor car as the UK but they turned everything around. Copenhagen was very much the same. The UK, or at least London, has made unbelievable strides forward in the provision of cycling infrastructure in the last couple of decades. It's now at a level I never thought I would see in my lifetime and it's still improving massively year on year. It might take 50 more years to become like Amsterdam or Copenhagen but 50 years is not "never". As for the assertion that the ratio will remain exactly the same no matter what improvements are made, that is clearly nonsense as proved by the facts in both of those cities where women now outnumber men in cycling, why don't they have three times as many male cyclists as female?
tl;dr; Hold off buying the 1060 for the voice control features until independent verification that it works reasonably when on the move cycling. Speech command recognition on a moving bike is a really hard thing to pull off well. Off the bat there's wind and traffic noise, exercise distorted voices, delivering adequate battery life of always listening/connected devices, privacy, latency, and whether it'll work with or without internet connection. If Garmin has managed to make something that's not rubbish on moving bike they'll be doing better than the companies with massively more R&D who make our smartphones. Will be a seriously impressive bit of kit.
@Smoggysteve Yes. I wrote to Cycling UK and its "My Ride, My Right" campaign saying it was misguided. The issue is cycling is not safe enough for all users. Men may be more willing to take risks with the sub standard infrastructure and so are a bigger proportionof riders. Bu thte risks being taken are the same for everybody. A focus on women specific proposals misses the point - better infrastructure would reduce death and injury for all and enourage more to cycle.
29 thoughts on “Live blog: Brompton boss says enmity between motorists and cyclists is down to Mamils; Kristoff’s bike fails to survive sprint (+more vid of sprint crash), Wiggo ‘bike drop’, Hunt newsletter fail + save, Holly Willoughby on overtaking cyclists + more”
Brailsford hands lolz
Brailsford hands lolz
Holly, it is nice you feel
Holly, it is nice you feel concern when passing cyclists, but NOT passing them is also unsafe. I get sick of being intimidated by motorists waiting over my shoulder and not passing. I don’t need you to go completely onto the other side of the road, “Just Drive Forward!” For every timid driver who won’t pass you are bottling up two assholes behind you who will immediately pass closely even if not safe. The inconsistency is the problem, and you are part of the problem because you are not confident in your ability to drive safely. Take an Advanced Driving course if you have to, but get off my shoulder.
Check out Sir Dave at 5.58
Check out Sir Dave at 5.58 when he says ‘young guns’!!!
Check out Sir Dave at 5.58
Check out Sir Dave at 5.58 when he says ‘young guns’!!!
Check out Sir Dave at 5.58
Check out Sir Dave at 5.58 when he says ‘young guns’!!!
Check out Sir Dave at 5.58
Check out Sir Dave at 5.58 when he says ‘young guns’!!!
Check out Sir Dave at 5.58
Check out Sir Dave at 5.58 when he says ‘young guns’!!!
Check out Sir Dave at 5.58
Check out Sir Dave at 5.58 when he says ‘young guns’!!!
Check out Sir Dave at 5.58
Check out Sir Dave at 5.58 when he says ‘young guns’!!!
Surely it’s about time DS
Surely it’s about time DS were prevented from driving team cars whilst on the radio and well, directing the race?
Sends completely the wrong message about distracted driving.
So am I enraged by Brompton
So am I enraged by Brompton guy?!?! He says cycling has been saved by mamils on the weekend but moans that it’s dead as a transport choice!! Who is he blaming?!?!?
Do I burn my brompton or what?!?!? It’s only a couple months old, I’d rather not. But if it’s for the greater mamil good…
…else I suppose I could lycra up when I ride it just to piss him off….
StoopidUserName wrote:
Yes, I wondered about the wisdom of pissing off your customers; not generally accepted as a good business plan.
burtthebike wrote:
See his clarification today – there’s no way he’s dissing anyone for cycling.
cougie wrote:
I was being a bit tongue in cheek there. I didn’t click through to the torygraph because…its the torygraph and the quotes in this article didn’t seem to be blaming anyone, just the headline made it look that way
burtthebike wrote:
Loving the double, triple and quadruple posts on the forum. Excellent software.
He could have a point about
He could have a point about the MAMIL’s on Ride London day I am always wary of the 4X4 with bikes on the back, you just know that they are going to do something they would compalin about if it happened to them!
Especially directed to the pillocks in the Range Rover that cut across me at the lights just after Battersea Dog’s home.
FFS, MAMILS are not the
FFS, MAMILS are not the problem. They make up a tiny percentage of all cyclists (and quite a small fraction of people who wear Lycra, people who are middle aged and cycle, and people who are both, if you take MAMIL to mean a very particular kind of cyclist). They are an excuse and an easy target for ridicule so that people can justify their prejudice. The problem is the constant failure to challenge incorrect views and the average person having a very poor understanding of the law and poor ability to drive. Some cyclists do give a bad image, and on my experience most of those are not people in Lycra but people on knackered, poorly maintained, old bikes who wear “normal” clothes. They tend to be the ones that cycle in a dangerous and inconsiderate way. But also they are generally only a risk to themselves and other cyclists, and no one lumps equally bad drivers and pedestrians together in the same way.
John Smith wrote:
Abolutely this.
I have to declare an interest here, I’m not a MAMIL, more an OAMIL, or OMIL for short. That won’t change any time soon. I hope also to be doing 100 mph on my commute tomorrow.
John Smith wrote:
As someone on [what looks like a] knackered, poorly maintained old bike, who wears “normal” clothes, I take exception to your generalisation.
That would be like me saying that all roadies are arrogant competitive sociopaths. And I wouldn’t say that.
We are all individuals
brooksby wrote:
I’m not
HawkinsPeter wrote:
Remember you are unique… just like everyone else 🙂
I am staggered at Mr Brompton
I am staggered at Mr Brompton’s comments – does he think that people who buy his bikes don’t think of themselves as cyclists, and never wear cycling clothes? And that triathletes saved cycling? FFS what a clueless arse hole. I’ve always thought Bromptons were a well engineered but over priced solution to a problem that only exists for a small portion of commuter-cyclists and his attitude to the wider world of cycling makes me doubt his business brain
Cyclists are not the problem,
Cyclists are not the problem. The people who think cyclists are a problem are the problem.
Will Butler-Adams, your
Will Butler-Adams, your statement about mamils was about as accurate as a cheap chinese watch – how absurd of you to abuse fellow cyclists in this way. Personally, I have always thought your bikes are absurd and I for one will never buy one.
Well well, I’m not sure what
Well well, I’m not sure what a Mamil really is – maybe I am one, i’m Middle aged and I wear Lycra when riding my road bike – which I do despite the absolute twats that drive. I have a load of bikes (it’s my hobby), two of which are Bromptons, which I bought despite their ridiculously high price because I wanted to support a British company – all my bikes are from British companies – however I can assure Mr Butler-Adams that the next folding bike I buy (for my daughter) will NOT be a Brompton you bigoted gammon faced twat! I look forward to this being his ratner moment…
that is all
Ridiculous rant by brompton
Ridiculous rant by brompton guy, he sounds like a typical moton, I’m not impressed with the actions of some people on bikes as well but that compared to the actions of far more wankers actually in killing machines is miniscule.
Not quite a ‘ratners’ moment but the potential damage to his business as well as sterotyping cyclists to confirm to the retarded daily heil mob doesn’t leave it too far short!
I stopped reading Brompton
I stopped reading Brompton man’s rant at “They whizz along at 100mph”. Could have come straight out of the DM comments.
Brompton boss. On the one
Brompton boss. On the one side (Brompton) you would think that he would be ok, being big cheese of a bike company and all. On the other hand (boss) you can picture his fat, red face behind the wheel of an executive twat-mobile-Audi.
And no, MAMILS are not the problem. Motorist killing and maiming without risk or fear of punishment is the problem.
Anyone who is taking the
Anyone who is taking the Brompton comments at face value is a fool.
Go google the guy and check out his talks. He LOVES cycling. He lives for it.
Typical newspaper making things out to be confrontational where there is none.
He’s clarified the comments today so you can all go put out the flames of your melted Bromptons.
I’ve been a road cyclist for over 35 years but my Brompton gives me more pleasure than my CF speed machines. Fantastic fun.