Police appeal for witnesses after driver berates the cyclist she hit

brooksby wrote:

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She said there were plenty of people about. “Some went to help the cyclist. I think they managed to get her registration plate and call the police about it. Hopefully they can find her because it was shocking behaviour.”

Erm - so can't the police just look up the number plate, find the registered keeper, and have a chat to see what their recent movements have been?  Especially if the registered keeper is a woman in or near Dundee??

From previous stories in Scotland it seems that you actually pre-book your accident to be witnessed by a policeman or they aren't interested even with video evidence and 10 wise men as witnesses.

See 59 wrote:

... the overweight plankton in their tin boxes ...

fantastic!! people at work wondered what I was laughing at

brooksby wrote:

There's one comment on the original story (local news) so far:

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Go away cyclists. Slow roadblocks. 

Just makes you feel warm inside, doesn't it... 

It's either that or we are going too fast and are dangerous.
Colleague at work was complaining that cyclists avoid a shared use underpass at one roundabout in town here, instead choosing the straighter, flatter roundabout (rather than the narrow, poorly lit, steep with sharp bends tunnel system underneath), as we were a hinder to traffic as we went slower than the main traffic . .  I then pointed out that as all traffic should be progressing with caution, based on the "give way" lines at all entrances his next sentence was "But you cyclists take that roundabout at 50 and 60km an hour" . .  He never has explained how we can be a hinder if we are speeding ?

StuInNorway wrote:

It's either that or we are going too fast and are dangerous.

Colleague at work was complaining that cyclists avoid a shared use underpass at one roundabout in town here, instead choosing the straighter, flatter roundabout (rather than the narrow, poorly lit, steep with sharp bends tunnel system underneath), as we were a hinder to traffic as we went slower than the main traffic . .  I then pointed out that as all traffic should be progressing with caution, based on the "give way" lines at all entrances his next sentence was "But you cyclists take that roundabout at 50 and 60km an hour" . .  He never has explained how we can be a hinder if we are speeding ?

Have you not explained the concept of Shrodinger's cyclist?  Simultaneously going too fast and too slow.

burtthebike wrote:

StuInNorway wrote:

It's either that or we are going too fast and are dangerous.

Colleague at work was complaining that cyclists avoid a shared use underpass at one roundabout in town here, instead choosing the straighter, flatter roundabout (rather than the narrow, poorly lit, steep with sharp bends tunnel system underneath), as we were a hinder to traffic as we went slower than the main traffic . .  I then pointed out that as all traffic should be progressing with caution, based on the "give way" lines at all entrances his next sentence was "But you cyclists take that roundabout at 50 and 60km an hour" . .  He never has explained how we can be a hinder if we are speeding ?

Have you not explained the concept of Shrodinger's cyclist?  Simultaneously going too fast and too slow.

It's because of the hi-viz - once you can definitely see where the cyclist is, their speed becomes much more uncertain.

hawkinspeter wrote:

Have you not explained the concept of Shrodinger's cyclist?  Simultaneously going too fast and too slow.

It's because of the hi-viz - once you can definitely see where the cyclist is, their speed becomes much more uncertain.

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Very subtle, I love it.

hawkinspeter wrote:

burtthebike wrote:

Have you not explained the concept of Shrodinger's cyclist?  Simultaneously going too fast and too slow.

It's because of the hi-viz - once you can definitely see where the cyclist is, their speed becomes much more uncertain.

Ah, Heisenberg's cyclist

burtthebike wrote:

StuInNorway wrote:

It's either that or we are going too fast and are dangerous.

Colleague at work was complaining that cyclists avoid a shared use underpass at one roundabout in town here, instead choosing the straighter, flatter roundabout (rather than the narrow, poorly lit, steep with sharp bends tunnel system underneath), as we were a hinder to traffic as we went slower than the main traffic . .  I then pointed out that as all traffic should be progressing with caution, based on the "give way" lines at all entrances his next sentence was "But you cyclists take that roundabout at 50 and 60km an hour" . .  He never has explained how we can be a hinder if we are speeding ?

Have you not explained the concept of Shrodinger's cyclist?  Simultaneously going too fast and too slow.

I once got a very near left hook (first exit) on the roundabout coming onto the housing estate where I live. Having been forced to turn left with the car which then tried to brake check me, I went past and got a mouthful of abuse from the driver's window about being in the way and that I shouldn't be speeding on the estate, didn't I know it is a 20mph limit? It isn't, but I've always marvelled at the logic that you would overtake someone who was speeding just to slow them down and then also claim that they were in your way.

Mungecrundle wrote:

I once got a very near left hook (first exit) on the roundabout coming onto the housing estate where I live. Having been forced to turn left with the car which then tried to brake check me, I went past and got a mouthful of abuse from the driver's window about being in the way and that I shouldn't be speeding on the estate, didn't I know it is a 20mph limit? It isn't, but I've always marvelled at the logic that you would overtake someone who was speeding just to slow them down and then also claim that they were in your way.

When I was younger and had a joke of a sports car, Triumph Spitfire, I drove to my girlfriend's house in Weston, and overtook a few cars on the way, one of which flashed their lights and sounded their horn, and then proceeded to drive like a bat out of hell to overtake me.  I was stopped a bit farther on by a policeman who said they'd had a complaint about my driving, specifically my speed.  He dropped the whole thing when I pointed out that the complainer had had to drive much faster than me to get to him in time to report it before I got there.

burtthebike wrote:

Mungecrundle wrote:

I once got a very near left hook (first exit) on the roundabout coming onto the housing estate where I live. Having been forced to turn left with the car which then tried to brake check me, I went past and got a mouthful of abuse from the driver's window about being in the way and that I shouldn't be speeding on the estate, didn't I know it is a 20mph limit? It isn't, but I've always marvelled at the logic that you would overtake someone who was speeding just to slow them down and then also claim that they were in your way.

When I was younger and had a joke of a sports car, Triumph Spitfire, I drove to my girlfriend's house in Weston, and overtook a few cars on the way, one of which flashed their lights and sounded their horn, and then proceeded to drive like a bat out of hell to overtake me.  I was stopped a bit farther on by a policeman who said they'd had a complaint about my driving, specifically my speed.  He dropped the whole thing when I pointed out that the complainer had had to drive much faster than me to get to him in time to report it before I got there.

Did the car that overtook you have hi viz stripes down the sides, blue flashy lights and was it parked near where the Policeman approached you?

Mungecrundle wrote:

Did the car that overtook you have hi viz stripes down the sides, blue flashy lights and was it parked near where the Policeman approached you?

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No.  Next question.

Mungecrundle wrote:

...but I've always marvelled at the logic that you would overtake someone who was speeding just to slow them down and then also claim that they were in your way.

That is a particularly interesting level of stupid ...

burtthebike wrote:

Have you not explained the concept of Shrodinger's cyclist?  Simultaneously going too fast and too slow.

Today I learned that c = speed of cyclist, as in E=mc^2.

KendalRed wrote:

I realise we shouldn't really be fostering a 'them and us' attitude, but it's getting so bloody difficult these days.

But there is no 'them and us'.

80% of cyclists drive and 100% are also pedestrians. I drive, cycle, walk, use buses and trains. I am just as angry at shitty, selfish or aggressive behaviour regardless of my mode of transport at the time.

But the gutter press love it. And every time someone clicks a link to the Daily Mail website they are feeding the hate. So just f..king STOP!

brooksby wrote:

I (still) blame Thatcher

Same here. I detest what she has done to this country.

KendalRed wrote:

I realise we shouldn't really be fostering a 'them and us' attitude, but it's getting so bloody difficult these days.

You're quite right that we shouldn't foster a 'them and us' attitude. Please, all of us, avoid this. It's what the Daily Mail readers do. The fact of the matter is that most road users are sensible and considerate. It's just a small minority that, unfortunately, present a serious threat to life and limb. They need to be targetted (maybe litterally!).

burtthebike wrote:

JHC, thanks Mail, and all the other anti-cyclist propaganda spewing media.  It is now accepted by some people that you can knock down another human being with your vehicle and then drive off without checking that they aren't dead or dying; if they're a cyclist.

I wonder if this will be featured in the Mail etc?

To be fair, most people would think that the driver was a piece of shit for doing that.

hawkinspeter wrote:

burtthebike wrote:

JHC, thanks Mail, and all the other anti-cyclist propaganda spewing media.  It is now accepted by some people that you can knock down another human being with your vehicle and then drive off without checking that they aren't dead or dying; if they're a cyclist.

I wonder if this will be featured in the Mail etc?

To be fair, most people would think that the driver was a piece of shit for doing that.

Whilst I agree with MOST people, I think there's a disturbing number (and growing) who don't have a conscience and aren't bothered what the consequences of their actions.

With a good lawyer, you'll escape jail

maviczap wrote:

Whilst I agree with MOST people, I think there's a disturbing number (and growing) who don't have a conscience and aren't bothered what the consequences of their actions.

I'll throw down litter because the council pays someone to clean the streets, don't they?  (Until the council also pays for people to go around fining people they see dropping litter).

I'll avoid declaring all my income or move it offshore - its a victimless crime, isn't it? (Meaning government and councils have less money to spend).

I'll nudge this person out of my way / run them over (potato/potato) and then carry on, because I'm busy and in a hurry, dammit!

Too many people in This Modern Age have been led to believe that there's no such thing as society, that they are not responsible for anyone else's happiness or livelihood, so f- 'em!

I (still) blame Thatcher