First Published: Jul 7, 2014
If like us, you’re fans of the on-bike footage that has been emerging recently, it looks like you could be in for a treat over the next few weeks – the trial, authorised by the UCI, is continuing at the Tour de France.
Here’s some footage of Stage 1 of the race shot from the bikes of Koen de Kort and Albert Timmer, including a view of a crash, as well as their Giant-Shimano team mate Marcel Kittel celebrating as he crosses the line in Harrogate to take the stage win and the yellow jersey.
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Jetmans Dad "Food delivery riders in particular are riding overpowered 'eBikes' that are basically mopeds … powered only via the throttle without pedalling at significantly more than 15mph. Problem is they look like normal bikes/ebikes and not like mopeds so that is what people describe them as." Indeed, mistaken identification of e-motorcycles as bicycles is a significant problem because different regulations and training apply, so different enforcement. Even worse are the illegaly modified e-motorcycles that are not operated as such, without training, insurance and compliance generally. Zero hour employment contracts and employers taking no practical responsibility make it worse yet. Then there's the health impacts on customers that fall on taxpayers through the NHS.
I might be cynical about Police re-organisations but how many new senior officer posts will be created in this re-organisation.
I have to put it back into mode eight so rarely that I will have to open up the manual. Normally when I stick it on the bars when I had to send my r4 back to Hope. Or if it seemed to go a bit weird. Can't remember the last time.
I have nothing but praise for my helmet mounted Exposure Axis, running eight years now. Battery only does two and a bit commutes now, so I'm going to either upgrade to the Diablo or see if they will upgrade the battery. If they'd released their STVZo road/4k lumens when your giving it some going downhill off road light I would have bought it first day. Mode 8 for me, low low, good mid and top high, decided after a couple of weeks of use and I've never changed. I use the button or the tap function (Tap 2 for me) to cycle through the power levels. Exceptional helmet light. The button is it's weak point, but very livable, I am glad of the tap function. It can sometimes take a few presses to get the flashing bit with its press and hold, but not for too long because that's off.
Hard to see who replies on any thread. I only visit the site a couple of times a week as it is not usable.
People who want to travel safely in a 20 mph area, so that no motor vehicle tries to overtake them, need to be capable of 20 mph so get no assistance at all from a legal e-bike that provides 15.5 mph. So the e-bike regulations are broken because they encourage unsafe overtaking by impatient drivers (5 mph). In 30 mph roads, the 10 mph difference would still allow safe overtaking to be completed in short distances. So the low speed 15.5 is less safe in practice not safer.
I have been doing some cross-checking between my records and the police dataset How do you do that? The spreadsheet has been designed to ensure that you can't. There's no unique code for each incident, so why haven't they included that? There are many incidents dated from the same location on the same day by the same despised reporter category (cyclist) for the same offender category (such as 'car'). The great majority of intended (as usual in these misleading 'databases', it's not the real outcome) outcomes is the entirely useless 'warning letter'. Is there anybody out there who believes that the average police officer could rouse either the wit or the willingness to determine whether the offender has received a warning letter previously?! Some people will be receiving numerous such letters to throw in the bin, which encourages them to repeat the offence. As for the claimed 'positive outcome'!- only the most deluded could believe that
I pretty much have stopped bothering. I also find when I come to the site it loads the previous days page and I have to refresh to see today’s front page.
I regularly submit reports to A&S Police, and keep detailed records of what I have submitted, and the responses. I have been doing some cross-checking between my records and the police dataset. I'm afraid correlation is patchy at best. So, I am not confident in the dataset's accuracy. Further, where I can be fairly certain of a correlation, it's been largely warning letters issued for very clear video evidence of hand-held mobile phone use whilst driving. No wonder I see so many doing so. They have nothing much to fear. :o( Should I keep bothering?
That was a reply to Hirsute by the way, which I naïvely assumed would appear on the thread underneath his comment given that I clicked the reply button on his comment. The Admins really need to sort this, and various other problems, out before people stop bothering.
23 thoughts on “Video: On-bike footage from Giant-Shimano at Tour de France”
Can we present these clips
Can we present these clips without the ridiculous and unnecessary music and wailing in the background? Hearing the shouts of the riders and the noise of the fans is as important as the video material. What is it with producers these days?
Hang on, Marcel Kittel
Hang on, Marcel Kittel declared on twitter that he was a camera bike for Stage 1. I was waiting for the footage from behind him of the crash.
Seems obligatory to
Seems obligatory to soundtrack these type of videos with shitty distracting music in some fucking stupid attempt to embellish the action,well it doesnt embellish it,i just put it on mute
daft bastards
Rich71 wrote:Seems obligatory
+1 – I like the sounds that bikes make.
Sufferfest videos are about
Sufferfest videos are about to get a whole lot better!
tom_w wrote:Sufferfest videos
Doubtful, because the camera’s are operated by the riders, they switch them on and off at certain points that have been discussed before hand
Gkam84 wrote:tom_w
Can’t see that precluding some fabulous shots personally – there’s plenty of the footage i’ve seen so far that would be an absolute shoe-in for the Sufferfest (and others) IMO. Any particular reason you think it’s doubtful we’d get much decent reel or just a gut feeling ?
fukawitribe wrote:Gkam84
Can’t see that precluding some fabulous shots personally – there’s plenty of the footage i’ve seen so far that would be an absolute shoe-in for the Sufferfest (and others) IMO. Any particular reason you think it’s doubtful we’d get much decent reel or just a gut feeling ?— tom_w
The riders are switching the camera’s on an off for around 2-3 minute segments. Normally two to three times a stage.
Lets just say they leave it on for 5 minutes. You get 15 minutes of footage. 5 minutes of them rolling through the start and maybe seeing a break get away.
5 minutes of them scrabbling up some nameless climb and IF they are at the front on a flat stage, you might get the last 3km of a sprint.
But all that with views backwards aswell, will not give a good enough reel to make anything on sufferfest.
In the future as things develop, then I can see something coming from it though.
Gkam84 wrote:fukawitribe
Can’t see that precluding some fabulous shots personally – there’s plenty of the footage i’ve seen so far that would be an absolute shoe-in for the Sufferfest (and others) IMO. Any particular reason you think it’s doubtful we’d get much decent reel or just a gut feeling ?— Gkam84
The riders are switching the camera’s on an off for around 2-3 minute segments. Normally two to three times a stage.
Lets just say they leave it on for 5 minutes. You get 15 minutes of footage. 5 minutes of them rolling through the start and maybe seeing a break get away.
5 minutes of them scrabbling up some nameless climb and IF they are at the front on a flat stage, you might get the last 3km of a sprint.
But all that with views backwards aswell, will not give a good enough reel to make anything on sufferfest.
In the future as things develop, then I can see something coming from it though.— tom_w
It doesn’t have to be an hour of solid on-bike footage though does it? That also wouldn’t be in the style or theme of the videos. There are some very short pieces of film which can be interlinked with normal TV style scenes for good effect.
Take ‘The Hunted’ for instance. There are six short sprints at the end of that, the on-bike footage would be perfect.
Gkam84 wrote:fukawitribe
Can’t see that precluding some fabulous shots personally – there’s plenty of the footage i’ve seen so far that would be an absolute shoe-in for the Sufferfest (and others) IMO. Any particular reason you think it’s doubtful we’d get much decent reel or just a gut feeling ?— Gkam84
The riders are switching the camera’s on an off for around 2-3 minute segments. Normally two to three times a stage.
Lets just say they leave it on for 5 minutes. You get 15 minutes of footage. 5 minutes of them rolling through the start and maybe seeing a break get away.
5 minutes of them scrabbling up some nameless climb and IF they are at the front on a flat stage, you might get the last 3km of a sprint.
But all that with views backwards aswell, will not give a good enough reel to make anything on sufferfest.
In the future as things develop, then I can see something coming from it though.— tom_w
Ah, wasn’t aware it was so short – still be OK for shorter interval work but, if that’s all that’s going on currently, then yeah.. we’ll have to wait a bit for more footage. At the Tour of California they were hinting at a lot more, both in duration and number of bikes carrying the cameras – maybe that’ll come in due course.
That said, from the point of view of entertainment i’m really liking whats coming out so far.
tom_w wrote:Sufferfest videos
Whoa, I hadn’t even thought of that! A set of on-bike sprint clips for something like downward spiral would be an awesome way to escape poor weather!
Bloody hell. It looks like
Bloody hell. It looks like they are being sucked along in some sort of vortex! I know the pros say the TDF is just that bit quicker than any other race and you can see what they mean.
F1 cars have on board
F1 cars have on board cameras, why not TdF bikes/riders? All riders should have the front and rear facing cameras. Would make much better compelling viewing for the arm chair and key board spectators.
It’ll also come in handy for
It’ll also come in handy for those times when they get cut up by a bus. :))
Airzound wrote:F1 cars have
While F1 have on board cameras and every car has to carry one of a dummy of the same weight. They are not bothered about a few grams here and there, just means they can make their car lighter.
On a pro bike, it will make a difference, especially the camera’s they are using, not very aero
“Airzound wrote:
F1 cars have
“Airzound wrote:
F1 cars have on board cameras, why not TdF bikes/riders? All riders should have the front and rear facing cameras. Would make much better compelling viewing for the arm chair and key board spectators.
While F1 have on board cameras and every car has to carry one of a dummy of the same weight. They are not bothered about a few grams here and there, just means they can make their car lighter.
On a pro bike, it will make a difference, especially the camera’s they are using, not very aero”
They are all currently strapping ballast to their current bikes to be UCI compliant so weight is not going to be an issue. Andy Schleck’s bike was pictured last week with a 300g lump of lead bolted in behind the bottle cage.
My on-bike camera is the size of a large usb stick or a small torch, it weighs 60g, takes 4 hours of HD video and cost £45. If they want to do it the technology is certainly no obstacle.
Like I’m ever able to look up
Like I’m ever able to look up during a 10/10 sprint during a Sufferfest video……….
ajmarshal1 wrote:Like I’m
Up?! Up?! The phone gets mounted on my stem!
Have really enjoyed watching
Have really enjoyed watching these onboard videos. The music in this one is shocking however. Much preferred the earlier ones when you hear it from the riders perspective.
Hi guys – David from The
Hi guys – David from The Sufferfest here. Fear not – Grunter von Agony has been hard at work. There will be some ammaaaaazzzzing on-bike footage coming in The Sufferfest videos soon. : )
thesufferfest wrote:Hi guys –
Excellent news.. and congratulations on the Lesotho National Champs ! Will be on the other side of the world from my bike on National Day, but may have to blag a ride from somewhere.
Where’s it gone?!
Where’s it gone?!
I can’t run the video. It
I can’t run the video. It says it’s private!