Cyclist stops for red light… nearly gets taken out by light-jumping driver behind; ‘Keen cyclist’ Anthony Browne the government’s new cycling and walking czar; Cock Lane to Dick Place epic ride; Win the Tour on Heinz sachets? + more on the live blog
SUMMARY
Cock Lane to Dick Place: Student cycling club completes 660km X-rated epic
Kudos at the ready…
Wallets too if you fancy applauding this monster day (and a bit) in the saddle with a donation to the University of Edinburgh group’s Movember fundraiser, which has already racked up more than £5,000 for the charity through this amusing (but more than a bit barmy) ride.
In total, 667km from Cock Lane in London to Dick Place in Edinburgh, setting off on Saturday morning before eventually rolling back into the Scottish capital’s phallic finish line on Sunday afternoon. Just the 28 hours moving time, 4,800m of climbing, 36 hours elapsed time, and 24km/h average. A truly girthy day out.
Speaking to MyLondon about the erectile epic, Alex Mutter said the idea came via a meme that was doing the rounds, showing the “ultimate road trip across the UK through all sexual innuendo-named places”… “we thought it was perfect for a Movember route so decided on Cock Lane to Dick Place to help raise awareness”.
“When I’ve told people what we’re doing, the main response I get it is people asking where are you staying along the week, that will be fun doing a week of cycling. We’ve had to say no we’re going in one go, people don’t get that we’re going all in one go.
“Seeing two sunrises and two sunsets in one ride was pretty surreal. We were all very emotional, this group have done a couple of challenges together but this one seemed like something special.
“It was very emotional at the finishing line – we all knew it was the hardest challenge we’d done mentally and physically so seeing each other having finished it was really something special.”
Chapeau… (cue the penis-related puns in the comments)…
"If we build safe cycling infrastructure, scenes like this will become the norm"
If we build safe cycling infrastructure throughout #Haringey, scenes like 👇will become the norm.
Let’s build segregated cycling lanes on main roads, keep speed limits low & support quiet streets.
These measures will enable people to switch from cars to bikes.
✨🌎🚲🚶♀️✨ pic.twitter.com/A8Aylylk6u— Francesca Savage 🚲💕 (@francesca_kms) November 12, 2023
"Can't even fit a bicycle?": Elon Musk's Tesla 'Cybertruck' goes viral for all the wrong reasons
Feel free to skip to avoid all Elon Musk mentions…
Why would someone stick their bicycle in a refrigerator? 🤔 pic.twitter.com/nHGSawuf98
— Christopher David (@Tazerface16) November 15, 2023
This post about the Tesla ‘Cybertruck’ is getting plenty of attention. What is a Cybertruck I hear you ask? Well, according to Tesla it’s got “better utility than a truck with more performance than a sports car”. (Apparently, punctuation doesn’t exist in Elon’s world)…
Anyway, this photo of the Spesh mountain bike unable to fit in the back, (and questionably stored for avoiding damaging your frame, might I add) got people chuckling, a few comments to the effect of ‘you might as well save yourself the trouble of having to own and be seen using one of these by just riding the bike’. Just an idea… and you’ll get no arguments from us…
The bike is really practical, driver can use it to finish their ride to work when the truck gets stuck on a speed bump.
— Support Ukraine 🇺🇦 (@neoblaque) November 15, 2023
The bike’s the spare so he can get home when the Tesla breaks down.
— T-Rex Arms (@KathyMcQ1) November 15, 2023
— The Voice of Reason (@stophurtingusa) November 15, 2023
Nightingale Gardens & Landscapes wins the 'you can't carry that by bike' award for the week...
Articulated fun (on two wheels) – Our @UrbanArrowcom & @carlacargo sailing along the new Rosendale Road cycle path with our bulk green waste bags pic.twitter.com/dW6e2DXghK
— Nightingale Gardens & Landscapes (@NightingaleGHS) November 14, 2023
UPDATE: Met Police confirms helmet advice for cyclist, who was knocked off their bike along with their pet cat by a moped rider, came from a plain-clothes police officer – and calls on "all road users to abide by the Highway Code"
We’ve been in touch with the Metropolitan Police regarding yesterday’s story…
The force confirmed the car that stopped at the scene, and woman who offered helmet advice were police. Interestingly, the comment includes the claim the footage is “heavily edited” and calls for all road users to be “mindful and abide by the Highway Code”.
You can read the full update and comment here…
The new must-have ride fuel... Heinz tomato ketchup?
What’s going on here?
Anyone ever been so deep in a bonk they’ve had to raid a takeaway for ketchup sachets?
In the interests of maintaining our reputation for the very highest levels of investigative journalism we’ve done some digging. How much Heinz ketchup would Jonas Vingegaard need to consume to win a Tour de France mountain stage?
Assuming we’re aiming for the very highest level of carb intake, around 120g per hour, and assuming it’s a five-hour stage… that’s 600g of carbohydrate to consume. Per 11g sachet of Heinz ketchup Jonas will be getting a measly 2.6g of carbs, meaning to hit 600g he’ll have to get 231 sachets down him (all without falling off his bike or throwing up on Wout van Aert). 46 an hour…
Excuse me while I take five to work out where I’m going to display my Pulitzer Prize.
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Sandy Balls, Fighting Cocks, Bell End: A brilliantly childish live blog comments section
I’m not going to pretend I didn’t ask for this (or want this exact thing to happen), but the live blog comments section is under siege from X-rated place names that could have made it onto the Edinburgh lads’ penis pilgrimage…
Cock Lane to Dick Place: Student cycling club completes 660km X-rated epichttps://t.co/rC3wchdMur #cycling pic.twitter.com/4gPPTjuhUT
— road.cc (@roadcc) November 15, 2023
Let the immaturity begin…
kil0ran: “Could have popped down to the New Forest and ridden Sandy Balls to Fighting Cocks a couple of hundred times. Pub at each end of the segment (Cock to Balls on Strava)”
Fantastic.
Editor Jack was disappointed to see no visit to Bell End, the street his auntie and uncle live round the corner from… just off Mincing Lane.
chrisonatrike: “See you and raise you (aha) Cocking Lane, near Addingham. Surprisingly long, once you get on it.”
Kapelmuur: “I used to drive through Wyre Piddle in Herefordshire, which sounded painful.”
hawkinspeter: “Mrs HawkinsPeter and I once looked at a house for sale on King Dick’s Lane in Bristol. It’s a lovely old cottage but unfortunately far too small for us.”
chrisonatrike: “I hope they didn’t have a hard time in Penistone.”
And mark1a reliably informs us that in Dorset there aren’t so many phallic place names, they’re more scatological instead…
Scatological. There’s a word you don’t hear every day. Top work everybody…
Global Cycling Network set to close GCN+ and GCN app in December due to "changing media industry landscape"
Intermarché-Circus-Wanty riders fined by UCI and ordered to attend educational course after posting racist gesture during race in China
'Keen cyclist' Anthony Browne replaces Jesse Norman as government's cycling and walking czar
We are pleased to welcome Anthony Browne MP @AnthonyBrowneMP who has been appointed as Parliamentary Under Secretary of State in the Department for Transport.⁰⁰#Reshuffle pic.twitter.com/Gz4Ib1iQu3
— Department for Transport (@transportgovuk) November 14, 2023
It’s fair to say the self-professed ‘keen cyclist’ title is often met with suspicion, especially when the person doing the self-professing has a sudden and particularly strong view on a cycling-related debate or, in this case, has been appointed as the Minister for Decarbonisation of Transport & the Future of Transport at the Department for Transport, a role under which active travel is well within their remit.
Are you actually a cyclist or are the words a hollow attempt to gain trust? Perhaps I’m overly cynical, but all remains to be seen as Anthony Browne — you guessed it, a keen cyclist according to his website — takes over the role from Jesse Norman.
In an out-of-date post on his website, Browne says “cycling has a significant role to play in tackling some of the biggest health and environmental challenges that we face” before going on to cite the now-cut active travel budget as proof of the government’s support…
The reaction to the appointment has been mixed, Cycling UK saying it “looks forward to working” together and expressing a “hope that he’ll support the policies and funding” that will enable people to choose to walk and cycle short local journeys.
“We hope the new minister will be able to re-establish the positive rhetoric on our transport options, and ensure we’re maximising the economic, health and environmental benefits there are in having a sustainable transport network that facilitates choice in how we move around,” Cycling UK’s chief executive Sarah Mitchell said.
CamCycle, the campaign group for cycling in Cambridge, added that it hopes to see the South Cambridgeshire MP using his background in the city to “refocus government policies and funding on its ambitious cycling goals”.
So what does the man himself have to say? Commenting on his appointment to the role that will require him to oversee electric cars, autonomous vehicles, active travel, e-scooters, sustainable aviation, and maritime and rail decarbonisation, Browne said he is “thrilled”.
“I am thrilled to be appointed to this dynamic and challenging brief. Having worked closely with the government and others advocating for local transport projects like the A428 rebuild, I am excited to take on this packed portfolio,” he said.
“Electric and autonomous vehicles, active travel, and sustainable practices in aviation and maritime are not just about technology; they’re about improving people’s lives and preserving our environment for future generations.”
A brief scan of social media suggests the jury is still out on this one, one commenter saying they “could weep” and comparing putting Browne in charge of decarbonisation to “like putting Genghis Khan in charge of peace negotiations”. Another less optimistic review below…
With his stanch support of private motor vehicle trips I can see no issue with @AnthonyBrowneMP appointment to Minister for Decarbonisation of Transport. Grim.https://t.co/V2yEiVukGx
— Cycling Dad (@CyclingDadUK) November 15, 2023
Let the fun begin…
The case for the defence: Newly appointed cycling and walking minister raised £12,800 for Ukraine Humanitarian Appeal by cycling from London to Cambridge
Keen cyclist status pending…
> Anthony’s London to Cambridge Cycle Ride for Ukraine
I’m now currently sorting through Australian crit racers and half the south of England to find the minister’s Strava… what any of this means for active travel policy remains to be seen of course…
As the Guardian’s deputy political editor says… “Sounds promising*”… the asterisk being that “this is in the context of a transport secretary and No 10 which are very anti-cycling, of course”.
Wait a minute…
You mean this bloke…… pic.twitter.com/lTJB8KjLlQ
— RoadiesCycles 🏴 🇪🇺 (@roadiescycles) November 15, 2023
Ah, right, yep, okay… as you were…
In Queen Edith’s this morning new Addenbrooke’s – found lots of residents and commuters unhappy with the proposed congestion charge, but absolutely no congestion! Our message to @GreaterCambs is clear – drop this driving tax!
More on why below 👇👇👇 pic.twitter.com/hkVebiCtOa— Anthony Browne MP (@AnthonyBrowneMP) September 22, 2022
Drink driver who sped through red light and left teenage cyclist with life-changing injuries, before letting wife take the blame, jailed for two years and ten months
Cyclist stops for red light... nearly gets taken out by light-jumping driver behind
Let’s finish the day with this video from Righttobikeit, the Irish rider documenting typical life as a cycle commuter. Today’s clip is about red lights, a hot discussion topic on the old interwebs… although this one might be a bit of a twist on the classic ranty person complaining about cyclists riding through red lights because of ‘safety issues’, while also being very quiet about other dangers…
Question: Should cyclists stop for orange light?
Answer: it doesn’t matter. The driver behind will try take you out either way pic.twitter.com/YbWhUeNkbL— Righttobikeit 🇺🇦 (@righttobikeit) November 14, 2023
In fact, Righttobikeit says he “gets them daily at this stage” and “just rarely posts them”. Case in point, number two…
I get them daily at this stage. I just rarely post them pic.twitter.com/gEghsA2hbM
— Righttobikeit 🇺🇦 (@righttobikeit) November 14, 2023
Surprise surprise though, some of the reaction to the video has centred around his riding, one person claiming he shouldn’t have stopped as it was “unsafe to do so”. “That’s asking to get hit from behind. You should have proceeded through without delay. It’s also unlikely the car could have stopped safely”. I’m sensing a Schrödinger’s cyclist: red light edition.
Thankfully that appears to be a minority view, plenty pointing out the driver being unable to stop is more to do with their own excessive speed and lack of stopping distance behind a vulnerable road user.
a) That’s nonsense. That was a perfectly normal bike stop.
b) If the lad behind him couldn’t stop in time, it was because he wasn’t maintaining the requisite safe distance.— Jaïme Hyland 🚴♂️… 💙+💛= 💚 (@aggressie) November 14, 2023
Before any driverists get involved, amber means stop and it was “STOP” all the way back here. ✋ pic.twitter.com/SU4s7072wo
— Bob (@Cycling_Bob) November 14, 2023
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I had actually cycled my first century the week before the accident. I got back on the bike straight away then a hip wore out and was replaced so I missed a lot of cycling in 2024 but I was back to my normal level in 2025 not so sure what has happened this year I am not as enthusiastic as usual I have been on the bike just not cycled far. I will have to do more as I will do a 50 mile ride in September the annual charity ride. Not sure fear is the problem exactly more a feeling that there is less enjoyment.in a bike ride than there once was.
What’s all this MTB palaver? The Tour de France was originally a gravel race. 🙃
@wtjs I've sent in 2 close pass videos to kent police, never heard anything back.
@Rendel Harris I had wondered how they might be preparing to deal with the expected heat. Got to keep them as safe as possible. My excitement is building, always a nervy first week, too many crashes in the peleton and no amount of down gearing is going to prevent that. From my cloudy memory, the pogecar lad is very rarely caught out on the wrong side of a crosswind split.
Rumor has it that riding the MMR gives you autism.
Well this looks ominous: real possibility of Tour stages being cancelled due to extreme heat. I'll put the link in a reply otherwise this whole comment will be quarantined - it's on the Guardian if anyone wants to search for themselves.
Having used the street multiple times since it was opened just over a month ago, I can report two issues which are preventing the improvements from working to their full potential. Firstly, there is no signage other than the painted bikes on the road itself, so there is nothing to indicate that cyclists have priority. The second is that the double yellow lines stop about two-thirds of the way down the road, meaning that from that point onwards, there are multiple cars parked half on the pavement and not in the designated parking places, reducing the width of both the footpath and the road to what it was before the improvements were made.
@MaxiMinimalist Really? So this applies only to drivers from Bouches-du-Rhône, Haute-Garonne and Vaucluse, drivers from the other sixteen départements that make up the south are fine?
Yeah, it's great isn't it........
67 thoughts on “Cyclist stops for red light… nearly gets taken out by light-jumping driver behind; ‘Keen cyclist’ Anthony Browne the government’s new cycling and walking czar; Cock Lane to Dick Place epic ride; Win the Tour on Heinz sachets? + more on the live blog”
For a proper Finbar Saunders
For a proper Finbar Saunders fnarr fnarr the students should have started in Peckham, we have the renowned Bellenden Road with the added bonus of bollards designed by Anthony Gormley:
Beautiful selection of
Beautiful selection of bollards, something for beginner all the way up to certified thrill seeker
How’s your imposter syndrome
How’s your imposter syndrome today? Mine’s terrible.
We’re gonna have a problem
We’re gonna have a problem here…
Richard Whitely? Too far,
Richard Whitely? Too far, that’s just blasphemy!
It was with reference to
It was with reference to Wetwang, he used to be the mayor I believe.
I can’t see the comment you
I can’t see the comment you are responding to. Is this the weather guy?
Here in Dorset, there are
Here in Dorset, there are less phallic place names, they’re more scatological. This one is on a number of local ride routes, and never ceases to be funny. Makes the villages around the Piddle Valley (Piddletrenthide, Piddlehinton, Puddletown, Tolpuddle to name a few) seem rather tame.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shitterton
The stone block was put there in 2010 as the road sign kept being stolen.
I used to drive through Wyre
I used to drive through Wyre Piddle in Herefordshire, which sounded painful.
I think stopping to take
I think stopping to take photos of funny signs during a bike ride is childish in the extreme.
Scatological place names are
Scatological place names are international; this is Mrs. Darabuka cycling through…….a small village in France.
See you and raise you (aha)
See you and raise you (aha) Cocking Lane, near Addingham. Surprisingly long, once you get on it.
Of course, Edinburgh boasts the Royal Dick Vet (its former site now a venue for some interesting art, Summerhall)…
I’m surprised to see Gormley
I’m surprised to see Gormley not doing what he does best which is reproducing himself all over the place.
Here’s him searching for something he’s dropped in the Water of Leith (his dignity?)
I hope they didn’t have a
I hope they didn’t have a hard time in Penistone.
Mrs HawkinsPeter and I once
Mrs HawkinsPeter and I once looked at a house for sale on King Dick’s Lane in Bristol. It’s a lovely old cottage but unfortunately far too small for us
https://maps.app.goo.gl/VRh2TFWe5qYzrKk3A
I have a King Dick here. It
I have a King Dick here. It is 14mm at one end and 15mm at the other, but quite long, so it’s the first thing I reach for if I have a tight nut problem.
Creakingcrank wrote:
They’ve got a nice line of flat slogging wrenches too
chrisonatrike wrote:
Apparently the trip to Cockermouth was a highlight (with apologies to the incomparable Humphrey Lyttleton).
Rendel Harris wrote:
Perhaps they should have made the tour from Cockermouth to Lickey End – and back the other way round for twice the fun…
chrisonatrike wrote:
Dammit! I didn’t read far enough down before commenting!
Rendel Harris wrote:
On the reverse side of each bollard is there a qr code to take you to the appropriate lovehoney page?
thats’s a bit “stiff”
https://www.edinburghlive.co.uk/news/edinburgh-news/edinburgh-university-students-finish-stiff-28107142
HELMETS
HELMETS
Is there an issue here?
Is there an issue here?
19 year old cocks and dicks are always going to behave as if they were still 12.
It’s just kind of them to identify themselves.
I see “no, I am Spartacus”
I see “no, I am Spartacus” continues…
Hopefully travelling via Bell
Hopefully travelling via Bell End
https://maps.app.goo.gl/11PUWMXGMJ8Zst8L6
It looks like they missed it
It looks like they missed it unfortunately as Bell End is in Rowley Regis, they were way east of the West Midlands at that point. My aunty and uncle live round the corner from that road, just off Mincing Lane.
My Bell End ?? is near
My Bell End ?? is near Wellingborough so should have been on their route.
What, no Wetwang?
What, no Wetwang?
I hope they managed to go
I hope they managed to go through Penistone.
They were going to go to
They were going to go to Clitheroe, but couldn’t find it.
Could have popped down to the
Could have popped down to the New Forest and ridden Sandy Balls to Fighting Cocks a couple of hundred times. Pub at each end of the segment (Cock to Balls on Strava)
In Bexley there is a sign
In Bexley there is a sign reading BunkersHill leading to Cocksure Lane. Sign used to get stolen frequently and last time I was there was positioned high up in a tree! A friend on a rugby tour in Wales once saw a stolen sign in a rugby club bar!
On the Cybertruck, that is
On the Cybertruck, that is the standard way for people to carry mountain bikes in pickup trucks, not a cybertruck failing. There are tailgate pads from many companies which go over the gate to protect your frame and you can line up 5 or so bikes across the back of the truck that way while being able to get them down without climbing into the bed.
The cybertruck has so many glaring issues for cyclists (big flat front, insane speed, poor visibiltiy, owned almost exclusively by cunts etc) that we don’t need to make up new ones.
Came here to say pretty much
Came here to say pretty much exactly what you just did.
Except you missed the obvious
Except you missed the obvious one…”trucks” of all engine types are almost invariably the WORST driven vehicles on the road, with the least fucks given for any other road user. IMHO, of course. It’s almost as if they are trying to live the rebel/outlaw fantasy the car companies promise them.
I think I covered that one –
I think I covered that one 🙂 – “owned almost exclusively by cunts”
Can’t wait to buy one to go
Can’t wait to buy one to go with my BMW.
GCN+ closing down… how to
GCN+ closing down… how to watch races now?
just got the email- whats the
just got the email- whats the story?
Freddy56 wrote:
Is it all just going to Discovery Plus?
Steve K wrote:
Looks like it… that’s a lot more money for a lot more unwanted stuff.
https://www.globalcyclingnetwork.com/general/news/gcn-and-gcn-app-to-close
https://help.globalcyclingnetwork.com/hc/en-gb/articles/19965721079697
I hope they put the GCN+ Originals back catalogue somewhere, there’s some great stuff.
Yian wrote:
It’s all here https://www.globalcyclingnetwork.com/general/news/gcn-and-gcn-app-to-close
Worst decision for me, don’t know where I’m going to watch racing now – I cba to subscribe to Discovery+ or Eurosport or which is best.
“If we build safe cycling
“If we build safe cycling infrastructure, scenes like this will become the norm”
Initially, yes – but if we build enough, properly* then we’ll likely see the bike buses, hi-vis tabards and even (gasp) helmets possibly disappear (according to personal choice / societal mores, I say hurriedly…). And then we’ll see scenes like this:
Culemborg, NL
Oulu, Finland
Assen, NL
* And tame the cars on the “quiet residential streets” – e.g. by ensuring they’re not through-routes for motor traffic.
In Dublin , it’s only 7 mins
In Dublin , it’s only 7 mins by bike from Ballsbridge to Ringsend
( it’s a giant of a city )
Seagull2 wrote:
Is that because it keeps doubling?
Dublin is too civilised. Head
Dublin is too civilised. Head further out for Muff in Donegal; Hackballs Cross, Louth; *Spillane, Kerry; Cum, Mayo; Lower Balix, Tyrone; Fannystown, Wexford to name but a few. Now that I’ve set myself up for a ban I better shut up.
*just caught the auto correct. That should read Spunkane in Kerry.
I believe the village of Muff
I believe the village of Muff is on the coast, and has a Muff Diving Club (actually, that one is true. Google it yourself)
On the way into Muff, its now
On the way into Muff, its now a Texaco garage, but it used to be run by Top. Gave rise to many a useful advertising sign informing you “Top Muff next left”
HoldingOn wrote:
They missed a trick by not adding “filling station” after “Top Muff”.
That epic ride, did they stop
That epic ride, did they stop off here for a PNB?
Will Anthony Browne do a
Will Anthony Browne do a sponsored ride to raise funds to help those in Gaza?
That crossed my mind too. But
That crossed my mind too. But considering nearly 300 MPs yesterday voted AGAINST calling for a ceasefire in Palestine it seems that this particular genocide is OK.
Sentences that start with “I
Sentences that start with “I’m a keen cyclist” never end well, do they?
brooksby wrote:
It’s a cycling specific version of “I’m not being horrible or anything but…”
some of my best friends are .
some of my best friends are …
Morgoth985 wrote:
Le’s just hope nobody ever says “Some of my best friends are keen cyclists”
A cycleist stopped for a red
A cycleist stopped for a red light did anyone see the flock of pigs flying overhead following Santa clauses sleigh as he gave a lift to the Easter bunny
I’d have a nap before
I’d have a nap before operating any powered machinery if I were you.
Of course, if you’re staying in this place, it’s probably slightly safer to get around in that state, but would still caution against it.
As someone in a wheelchair
As someone in a wheelchair (not sure if you are powered or not) do you go onto car websites and complain about pavement parkers who block your way when parked on the pavement? Do you go onto wheelchair user forums and complain about the people who use mobility scooters with the “on-road” speeds set even when they are using pedestranalised areas?
Or do you just come onto cycling websites to make comments about “woah a cyclist has stopped at a red light!!!!” and not even notice the 1.5 tonne 30mph vehicle that didn’t bother.
“woah a cyclist has stopped
“woah a cyclist has stopped at a red light!!!!” and not even notice the 1.5 tonne 30mph vehicle that didn’t bother
https://upride.cc/incident/px68nhc_toyotatrailer_redlightcross/
https://upride.cc/incident/f2yny_rangerover_redlightcross/
https://upride.cc/incident/dl66xgz_lcctraffic_redlightpass/
https://upride.cc/incident/pn68kpg_hiluxtrailer_redlightcross/
https://upride.cc/incident/t90jdt_audiwithcaravan_rljatspeed/
https://upride.cc/incident/pk68zfl_32tonnetipper_redlightcross/
https://upride.cc/incident/fd67nej_bmw420_redlightcross/
https://upride.cc/incident/ye10aju_mini_redlightcross/
OK, so the last two aren’t 1.5 tonnes. And, no- nothing happened to any of them
I saw a flock of pigs – I saw
I saw a flock of pigs – I saw them years ago when they were supporting a herd of seagulls.
Wheelywheelygood wrote:
Hang on – so you’re saying I imagined stopping at two sets of red lights on my way home last night, and three this morning? Craaaazzy…
(Reminds me of that saying: just because you have never seen squirrels having sex doesn’t mean that they never do it).
brooksby wrote:
Did you have to post that? God knows what pictures Peter will be digging out now…
brooksby wrote:
I dunno which is worse. I thought they just metamorphosed from pine cones or something?
Regarding the driver not
Regarding the driver not stopping for red and some claiming it was unsafe to do so, either the driver was going too fast or….?
And my own instance, previously mentioned on road.cc:
https://road.cc/content/news/deja-vu-met-decline-prosecute-rlj-driver-277643
Could have gone continental
Could have gone continental and gone into Pussy at the base of col de la Madelaine